From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #70 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 18 1997 Volume 06 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ro-bern? Fegs or Fans? [Nick Winkworth ] the Largo show 15-Nov-97 [delavina@juno.com (chris franz)] Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 [Eb ] (1%)RH: Spiritualized/Eb's rant [hal brandt ] little rhythmic arcs of red ["Capitalism Blows" ] New to the list [toby ] misheard (feg humor) [Bayard ] first post to the list ["Elizabeth Morgan" ] Mondegreens ["Napoleon In Rags" ] Re: the few, the brave, the committed [Hedblade@aol.com] Re: the few, the brave, the committed ["jeffery vaska" ] dan bern/veda hille [biscotti and borscht ] Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 [delavina@juno.com (chris franz)] Drinking, and tipping [Ben Gott ] Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 [Eb ] Re: new subject... [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:11:23 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Ro-bern? Fegs or Fans? Natalie Jane asked: > Who is Dan Bern, and what is the Robyn connection (if any)? Err. Damn good question, Natalie, and since I have to admit to being the instigator or this particular digression from the "way of Robyn" I guess I'd better apologize while I'm ahead. Seriously, one of the things *I* like about this list is that folk here discuss other music that they (i.e. fans of Robyn) also like. I've made many a cool discovery though a recommendation on this list. When I discovered Dan Bern I wanted to return the favor, and it seems to have hit a chord - many of Robyn's fans seem to "get" Dan Bern (unlike, for example, Jon Brion - as described recently by chris franz). Dan is a prolific singer/songwriter, a bit folky, a bit punky (like Robyn?) works solo acoustic, or with a backing band (like Robyn?). Some very funny songs, some very moving, always with a wry twisted vision - a little surreal. (Like ...well you get the idea). You can find out more at www.danbern.com I hope this helps you, too, Eb. You added: > I'll always be a fan. I'll never be a Feg. Tricky semantics here. I'd say I'll never be a *fan*. To me the word "fan" has overtones of sycophancy - people who praise uncritically. I remember those awful teenybopper "fanclubs" which were around in my (long ago) youth and practically wretch at the thought. :-Q I am however *delighted* to be associated with this mailing list - and the intelligent, thoughtful *and critical* people who contribute. Most here listen very broadly and many share those insights with the rest of us. I haven't met a single Feg who will tell you (a) everything Robyn's ever done is brilliant or (b) he's the world's best musician, singer or whatever. Any yet we are all here - drawn by a special affinity to *something* in what he does. I'd even include you in that number, Eb 'ol buddy. So while I cannot say one way or another if you are a fan or not, you are most certainly, like it or not, a Feg. :-P ~N My definition of "Feg" is simply an abbreviation of "Fegmaniac". "One who subscribes to the Fegmaniax mailing list". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:37:59 EST From: delavina@juno.com (chris franz) Subject: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 Okay, first things first: shirt: black with big white polka dots. Black trousers. First set: Gene Hackman Devil's Coachman Serpent At The Gates of Wisdom Dead Wife I Feel Beautiful Queen Elvis Cheese Alarm I'm Only You Glass Hotel Beautiful Girl I Something You Clean Steve Nietzsche's Way I Often Dream Of Trains We Are The Underneath A great, well-delivered set. Robyn was relaxed and enjoying himself, the songs with a band were tight, and the new songs were great. The new songs: "I Feel Beautiful" is a gentle, touchy-feely love song which was introduced by Robyn saying "This is a song that Jon and I just built." Those in attendance could see some JB influence, in a way I can't quite quantify... the main line "I feel beautiful because you love me" had me cringe at first, but the overall effect was rather haunting. We Are The Underneath is just a good solid rock song. Half an hour after this set, Jon Brion reappeared and said that Robyn had asked him to go sing a few songs. Jon interpreted that as "Go kill some time so I can have some wine and cheese." Anyway, this time everything Jon touched was golden, in my book. He did a couple of fun songs, then Robyn, Grant, and Ethan the drummer materialized and, with Jon, started up with a Dylan song. I didn't write down the setlist for the second set (seventy minutes, all covers except for the impromptu ones and Grant's song), so I'll just mention some of the most memorable bits... After four or five songs, Robyn talked Grant into singing a Grant Lee Buffalo tune (with Grant switching to guitar, Robyn to bass, Jon to drums, and Ethan going for more beer). This they did. Then, while sitting and playing bass, Robyn made up a song about hair ("C'mon hair/grow on out of my body/c'mon hair/grow on out of my soul"). Many times, Robyn seemed to get ready to sing a new line, when Grant would hit a piercing note on the guitar, and a slghtly irritated-looking Robyn would have to wait another measure or two. But they kept on, and it worked. Then Grant agreed to make up a tune, with Jon moving to keyboards... and Robyn on drums! My eyes went out on stalks when Robyn stepped behind the drum set. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see that. He started making some noise that vaguely resembled the percussion in Devo's version of "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," at a slower tempo. The others struggled to come up with appropriate accompaniment.... a metronome Robyn was not.... and the result was, well, musically forgettable, but visually forever burned into the cerebrum of all present. Robyn tried to talk Grant into playing drums, to no avail, so they went back to a more conventional arrangement (with Ethan reappearing) to complete the set. Everything beyond this point was gravy, and we lapped it up, happy as clams. The only thing I remember offhand from this is Arnold Layne; if someone did write down what was played, I'd love to see that list. Finally it came to a close at about 1:30. About two and a half hours of music in all, Robyn letting it all hang out at the end of his little US trip. This was a treat. - --Chris "Half the world's starving and half the world bloats Half the world sits on the other and gloats" - RH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:57:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 >A great, well-delivered set. Robyn was relaxed and enjoying himself, the >songs with a band were tight, and the new songs were great. The new >songs: "I Feel Beautiful" is a gentle, touchy-feely love song which was >introduced by Robyn saying "This is a song that Jon and I just built." >Those in attendance could see some JB influence, in a way I can't quite >quantify... the main line "I feel beautiful because you love me" had me >cringe at first, but the overall effect was rather haunting. We Are The >Underneath is just a good solid rock song. Yes, "I Feel Beautiful" was excellent. And "We Are the Underneath" (written in response to Diana's death, so he said) was interesting -- definitely an exception to my complaint about Robyn's songs being cut from the same janglepop cloth over and over. That one sounded more like the early, jagged Soft Boys stuff. Neat. But wasn't there another new song? The one that was all about Los Angeles? Also, I wouldn't call the band "tight," but I think that was a PLUS. Another quick comment: I was a bit dismayed by "I Something You," "I'm in Love with a Beautiful Girl" and "Clean Steve" all in a row, because those are all kinda "trashy" songs to me. Really generic musically, and pretty silly lyrically. I could've done without those. Both Sydney and I agreed that Robyn's voice sounded tired. Oh well. But overall, the first set was quite good. And not so much of that indulgent "storytelling" either. There was one bit which started off well, comparing the breaks between songs to the gaps between cars on a train. But then that deteriorated into a comparison with sausage links, and some really silly stuff about passengers inside the sausage links waving through the windows and being fed fishfood...blah blah blah. Of course, the audience tittered at just about anything. There was another ramble before the "Los Angeles song," which was really weak. He said something about how if it was a truly a Los Angeles song, it would be covered with a membrane and sorta fade in and out...yeah, whatever you say, dude. The audience laughed loudly when Robyn said that Los Angeles and New York were "different." Hoo-eee, whatta punchline. >I didn't write down the setlist for the second set (seventy minutes, all >covers except for the impromptu ones and Grant's song), so I'll just >mention some of the most memorable bits... Some other cover songs I remember: The Doors' "The End," the Rolling Stones' "It's Only Rock & Roll," Dylan's "She Belongs To Me" (or was that "Love Minus Zero/No Limit?" ummm...) and "Absolutely Sweet Marie," the Beatles' "Don't Let Me Down" and Captain Beefheart's "Clear Spot." Some of the covers were good ("Arnold Layne," "It's Only Rock & Roll"), others weren't. I'm not particularly impressed with Robyn's skills as a cover artist. He picks great material, certainly, but his covers rarely match the originals, IMO (perhaps because he picks such fantastic songs). For instance: "The End" was pretty lame, and totally lacking in emotional force. The original has power and drama -- in Robyn's version, he was just bouncing up and down and wiggling his ass through the whole song. True! Very shallow interpretation (though I liked Jon Brion's piano-playing). And when the song started, I assumed that RH would go off on some spontaneous imagery ramble during the freeform middle part, like Morrison did -- instead he just dutifully recycled the original lines, except for a sick little twist on the Oedipal section. (In his version, the father didn't mind being killed: "OK, whatever you like. You are my son, after all." Or something to that effect.) And I'm always struck by how much less moving Robyn's Dylan covers are than the originals. There's something about Robyn's "rock" voice which really flattens out the emotional impact of a song. Maybe it's because his voice is so dry and deadpan, and incapable of communicating a smile. Maybe it's because he sings all with his throat and nose, instead of his chest and abdomen. I don't know. But when Dylan sings those songs, I feel the lyrics. When Robyn does, I don't. I just listen to the pop hooks. And by the time that Robyn let Grant Lee Phillips sing lead, the creative spark was leaving the stage fast. The last 30 minutes were pretty dismal, if you ask me. And yes, brave Sydney spent the whole night with the fearsome, bilious Eb by her side. What a trooper. ;) Now here's my little rant, because I left the club with a VERY bad taste in my mouth. There were four of us at our table: me, Sydney and two other Feglisters (Dan and Chris, was it?). Maybe I'm responding to my tablemate's post, I'm not sure! Anyway, Sydney left with about a song and a half to go. The other three of us stayed until the bitter end. And boy, was it bitter. I got up to go talk to someone when the set was over, and came back and discovered that Dan and Chris had left without saying goodbye. OK, no biggie. We had already paid the check and all. But that check was $56, which means that Dan and Chris were drinking a whole lot of beer, because I had ONE beer and I doubt Sydney had more than two. So that works out to five or six apiece for Dan and Chris. Anyway...I'm kinda gathering my head together and preparing to leave, when the waiter returns. He's this typical young actor wannabee, with a stupid trendy ponytail and nice cheekbones. Didn't do anything beyond exactly what was required of him all night. He says, "Umm, I'm getting ready to close out, just so you know...." And I responded, "Oh. Umm, OK. Well, I'm not going to order another drink, if that's what you mean." He said, "No, I'm just wondering when you're going to give me my tip." Yikes! I assumed that the tip had already been given when the check was paid -- I didn't pay much attention to that process, since I had such a tiny portion of the check. So I give the guy two dollars, apologizing that "Jeez, I mean, I only had one beer!" He gets alllll bitchy with me, saying how I enter into a holy covenant when I share a table, and how I'm responsible for everyone else, etc. Blah blah blah. So I pull out three more ones for him. Now, I'm paying a lovely $9 for one beer. That's a $5 tip -- let's see, 15% of $56 is $8.40, so that means he's about four dollars short of what he customarily would get. Four bucks? Ahh, no huge loss. But oh boy, is this asshole miffed. "It was a $56 check! This is totally uncool. This is totally uncool." FUCK YOU. Get mad at the beer-guzzlers who left without leaving you a DIME, not me! :P (Not that I said this out loud.) So then he turns all snippy and ominous and "nonchalant," like "Well, that's OK. I'll just remember this for the next time. It's a small place, you know...." I mean, the guy is almost THREATENING me. In other words, "Expect a nice helping of urine in your Cafe Largo beers from now on, you unforgivable shithead." I could just see the creep memorizing my face, to pin up on his Most Wanted list. And of course, then I could see him bitching about me across the room to all his co-workers. Fuck this snooty, overly darkened, pseudo-chic joint! And I haven't even mentioned yet how there was supposedly a $10 minimum food charge. What bull THAT is. Though to be fair, this didn't seem to be heavily enforced. Anyway, I didn't say much to the waiter at the time. I was just in disbelief over what a jerkoff he was, and hence didn't say much. But boy, was I fuming during the drive home. And obviously, I still am. Needless to say, I'm going to try real hard not to give that place any more of my business. Oh, and I suspect that Sydney will post a more detailed post about the set's musical content -- she took copious notes during the show. ;) Ever a bundle of joy, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:42:02 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: (1%)RH: Spiritualized/Eb's rant Just to follow through on earlier posts... I did go see the band Spiritualized on Saturday night, and would highly recommend them. How to best describe what they do in layman's terms? I'd say they are a combination of Velvet Underground droning, mixed with early Pink Floyd ("Set The Controls"-type extended space jams) and Sonic Youth with a little blues harp thrown in for good measure and vocals that reminded me of Steve ("The Church") Kilbey. I thought the flute and sax would bother me, but they blended nicely. The set (with the exception of a few short breaks of silence) was like one extended piece of music. The songs ebbed and flowed beautifully, the band was tight, and the lights added a nice trippy ambience to the room. Don't miss 'em if you like this stuff. I'm not much of a "rock journalist", but there you have my impressions. Back to Robyn now, /hal PS-Amazed that Eb saw a one-of-a-kind RH performance and still finds reasons to be pissed about it. Don't worry, those testosterone levels will lower soon! *laff* Although I must admit, I do hate it when I've gotta cover for people who stiff the tip. *leaves a couple o' cyber-bucks on the table for woj* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:48:23 PST From: "Capitalism Blows" Subject: little rhythmic arcs of red well, first of all, did anybody tape the la shows???? PLEASE get in touch if you did! well, i wait tables. and i'm sorry, but you guys were the ones that were fucked up. maybe the waiter didn't have to totally fly off the handle at you, eb. but what you should have done was given him the extra four bones and then tried to get reimbursed. i still love all of you, but shitty tipping is SO VERY UNCOOL. please don't do that again. in other words, you haven't met me yet, nick. ok, *maybe* Wafflehead isn't "brilliant." but that'd be about it. listening to all my cd's in alphabetical order, i'm just finishing up with the velvet underground. that live album...oh hell, i can figure it out. roman numerals aren't *that* difficult. lessee...MCMXCIV...sound right? anyway, it's still as jaw-droppingly incredible as it ever was. if any of y'all don't have it, i just can't recommend it highly enough. and don't get that candy-assed single-disc version. i don't even know what is up with that in the first place. but what i was just thinking was that it's pretty damned inneresting that two '94 euro reunion tours produced two of the finest albums anybody is ever going to hear. (this and WHERE ARE THE PRAWNS?) criminy but i wish both bands had gone into the studio in '94. rip sterling morrison. hey, i assume most of you eurofegs saw the soft boys. but did anybody get to see *both* the soft boys *and* the velvets? do tell! i could probably at least get started on the new songs tape. here's what i've got. tell me what i'm missing: - --1974 - --Thundering - --Loop the Loop - --Adoration of the City - --The Cork Screw - --Jewels for Sophia - --Elizabeth Jade - --I Saw Nick Drake - --Dark Princess - --Daisy Bomb (it took a while, but i'm REALLY starting to dig this one) - --No, I Don't Remember Guildford - --Where Do You Go When You Die? - --Gene Hackman - --Viva Sea-Tac - --Ring Them Bones - --Alien Chuck - -- is Antwoman still considered new? bayard, the pic on the back cover of the rhino INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK cd book is indeed the same as the one on EXPLODING IN SILENCE. except that it's smaller obviously, and it's also cropped. Fuck You! I won't do what you tell me! (repeat fourteen times) --Rage Against the Machine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: toby Subject: New to the list Hi, I just joined the list... I'm a student at Cambridge University (England), and I've been a fan of Robyn's for about three years... is anyone else going to see him at the Boat Race in a couple of weeks? Toby I keep falling over I keep passing out When I see a face like you ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:44:02 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: misheard (feg humor) (from "lysander"): "she calls on a nudist... you..." ("driving aloud"): "you're afraid of the gallant she-whale..." (what is this actually?) (QE): "it could break your sister's heart, the big green elvis.." Got any more? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:41:50 PST From: "Elizabeth Morgan" Subject: first post to the list Hello! My name is Elizabeth and I've been following the mailing list for about a year and a half. I first 'found' Robyn though in April '92. I was going to school in Boston and Robyn made an impromtu appearance at the Earth Day concert at Foxboro Stadium. I've been a collector ever since. I live in Cincinnati, OH. Robyn hasn't played here since early 1992 so I make road trips to see him whenever I can. So far, that means Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Nashville, and Athens. I've taped all the shows I've been to - that's 9 in all. I'm just starting to trade so if anyone's interested let me know. My friend and I had the pleasure of meeting Miles in Nashville and Mike in Athens this past Febuary. I also had a great time with Randi and Mary at the Detroit show in May. Every feg I've met has been totally cool. I don't understand how anyone could drink with fellow fegs and then slam them on the list for not leaving a tip. I mean, at least the tab was already settled. Besides, a number of clubs I've been to have had a minimum food & drink charge. There's no reason to bitch about a couple of dollars. The only new song I remember hearing that wasn't on the list was 'Eerie Green Storm Lantern'. I know Robyn played it at the Vic in Chicago on 10/30/96. Elizabeth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:11:30 -0700 From: "Napoleon In Rags" Subject: Mondegreens Bayard hat geschrieben: > ("driving aloud"): > "you're afraid of the gallant she-whale..." (what is this > actually?) "You're afraid of the galaxy way..." > Got any more? ("Dark Princess"): "...duck recess..." ("The Yip Song"): "Sad to see you always win..." ("Vegetation And Dimes"): "Call 1-800-BELIEVER/Ask for Dean..." ("Balloon Man"): "He splattered me with tomatoes, honest..." ("Somewhere Apart"): "Oh, shit! Your bags! Here comes the mule!" ("Airscape"): "The quick explosion and the slow release of [I Ching] [eating]..." "Where angels harbour..." Cheers! - --g "One cannot love lumps of flesh, and little infants are nothing more." --Samuel Johnson *-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net *-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:35:46 -0500 (EST) From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Re: the few, the brave, the committed Sydney Of The Wasps writes: << Just how far does a feg go to get to a Robyn gig? >> Some of us obviously draw the line at L.A. ;) Blinking On And Off, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:08:14 -0800 From: "jeffery vaska" Subject: Re: the few, the brave, the committed >Sydney Of The Wasps writes: > ><< Just how far does a feg go to get to a Robyn gig? >> > >Some of us obviously draw the line at L.A. lol!! yeah, i am always a little saddened when i hear that somebody like robyn would even go to a place like that. i mean, it's a town more suited for the likes of sting or axel rose... sorry la-er's, i know, it's just me, but i really hate that place. i wish nuclear weapons were legalized... and then again, alot of la types are moving to seattle... i DO have a question though...DAN BERN...is there any connection between this guy and robyn (if there is i just happened to not be reading the fegposts that day). i'm going to make the attempt to see him on the 21st, but my is having a super 60 bash, so i'm quite tentative for such plans... email me on or off, each is quite nice with me... ta-ra!...jv - ----------------------------------------------------------------- vaska & co. design - "cultured by design" www.cultureddesign.com seattle, washington - usa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:09:00 -0800 From: Jeff Cleveringa Subject: weak joke Sorry, but I don't believe in tipping. Mr. Pink ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:28:34 -0500 From: biscotti and borscht Subject: dan bern/veda hille okay, youse northwest fegs who are all planning on seeing dan bern in olympia, seattle or portland. do your ever-lovin' blue-eyed list-meister a favor and get there early enough for the opening act: a canadian woman by the name of veda hille. if you like lyrical, achingly beautiful angular pop, methinks you'll like her...and if you get a chance to speak with her, tell her that meredith and woj say hi. woj n.p. merrie amsterberg -- season of rain p.s. it's pronounced /whoaj/. p.p.s. my jury is still out on dan bern -- i've heard a couple songs and skipped his set when he was opening for ani difranco earlier this year. i'm sure y'all care. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:29:48 EST From: delavina@juno.com (chris franz) Subject: Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 A few things I forgot to mention: Grammar-wise, he quite clearly sang "If he TREAT you horribly..." Cool! Some of us could catch bits of the soundcheck while waiting outside before the show. It included a song he played at the Two Bells tavern after Bumbershoot, possibly entitled "People Are Strange" or "I Gruesome Hair." Apparently that's a real song, not an impromptu Seattle thing. OK now, Eb queried: >But wasn't there another new song? The one that was >all about Los Angeles? Was this "Nietzsche's Way"? I had written down "The Privilege of Youth and Beauty" as a suspected title for this one, but someone I was with snagged the setlist (for the first part, anyway) and that is what was written. One of the oft-repeated lines was "That's Nietzsche's way of telling you..." I didn't remember this one in vivid enough detail to make much comment on it. >Also, I wouldn't call the band "tight," but I think that was a PLUS. > Uhh. If you saw them Friday, you would consider Saturday tight. Saturday I was at least reasonably confident that everyone would be in the right key. On Friday I cringed at every chord change. >Now here's my little rant, because I left the club with a VERY bad taste in >my mouth. There were four of us at our table: me, Sydney and two other >Feglisters (Dan and Chris, was it?). Maybe I'm responding to my >tablemate's post, I'm not sure! Mistaken identity, mate. For the record, I was the 6'8" guy who spent most of the show sitting on the floor right in front of the stage. cheers, - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:21:43 -0500 From: Ben Gott Subject: Drinking, and tipping >"Expect a nice helping of urine in your Cafe Largo beers from now >on, you unforgivable shithead." I'm only 18, so I'd only be drinking Coke. Of course, I'm a college student, so I don't only drink Coke, but... I've also never seen Robyn play live, but when I do, I'll be sure to tip the waiter big...For my Coke... Does anyone know if Robyn will be playing on the East Coast before I turn 40? That ain't working. That's the way you do it. - -Ben * ------------------------------------------- * B e n G o t t :: Bowdoin College Telephone :: (207) 721-5142 Internet :: http://www.wp.com/58596 Youre going to be OK. I wont leave you behind. * ------------------------------------------- * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:08:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the Largo show 15-Nov-97 >Was this "Nietzsche's Way"? I had written down "The Privilege of Youth >and Beauty" as a suspected title for this one, but someone I was with >snagged the setlist (for the first part, anyway) and that is what was >written. One of the oft-repeated lines was "That's Nietzsche's way of >telling you..." I didn't remember this one in vivid enough detail to >make much comment on it. I thought he sang "NATURE'S Way." No? Even if it was "Nietzsche," the song was obviously paying tribute to the old Spirit hit (as Mike Godwin will tell you, no doubt). And the Spirit quote makes thematic sense, since the song was generally about Los Angeles and Spirit was a LA-based band. But perhaps that's overreaching. Anyone know for sure which word Robyn used? Either that night, or previously? >>Also, I wouldn't call the band "tight," but I think that was a PLUS. >> > >Uhh. If you saw them Friday, you would consider Saturday tight. >Saturday I was at least reasonably confident that everyone would be in >the right key. On Friday I cringed at every chord change. OK, fair enough. Still, I enjoyed the minor missteps and fumblings, as opposed to the dependably seamless playing of Metcalfe & Co. And I do get tired of the fretless-bass sound. Regarding the waiter deal: I'd like to stress that the bulk of my gripe was not directed at my non-tipping tablemates, but at the hissy-fit waiter who apparently viewed a $4 tip discrepancy as the grounds for a lifetime vendetta against me. Laaaaaame. Regarding Hal's "once in a lifetime" comment: I dunno, maybe this WILL be the only all-covers Robyn set which I ever see. But that doesn't mean it was good. I enjoyed the "often in a lifetime" first set far more. I'm sure that Sydney will post in detail about the show, once she returns home to her computer, so stay tuned. Eb, never a fan of Grant Lee Buffalo and other messiah-rock acts (U2, Radiohead, the Alarm, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:50:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: new subject... >Not to go too far off from the latest dialog, or the list topic itself, but >I saw Spiritualized the other night and need to share my joy with >like-minded folk! Easily the best live show I've seen this year. I suppose I view Spiritualized like others of you see the Grateful Dead -- you gotta see 'em live to understand. ;) Question: Any Americans here in love with the new Ally McBeal show? The only reason I ask is that tonight there was a song on the soundtrack which I KNOW I'm familiar with, but just couldn't place. It started with "I started a joooooke...." and went to talk about how "the joke is on me," etc. It's some mellow '60s-folk thing, I believe. Help? Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #70 ******************************