From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #52 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 31 1997 Volume 06 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- QE demos [xavier ] while the woj is away... [biscotti and borscht ] Grammar, Tablature & Best lines ["Matthew Knights" ] rh shows [Mike Scott ] HALLOWEEN BASH AT ARLENE GROCERY [Alex Tanter ] re: rh shows [Mike Scott ] Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan [Russ Reynolds ] Re: The Soft Boys [Terrence M Marks ] re: grammar rock [Jason Thornton ] Re: Teenage Kicks [M R Godwin ] Re: RH tunings? [M R Godwin ] BoB: brought to U by the letter I [Nick Winkworth ] re: grammar rock [Capuchin ] Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan [Capuchin ] CDNow Pop Article (0.3% RH) [Tom Clark ] Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan [sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (a] new songs ["Wookie Conscious" ] tunings, ebow(la), captain beyond... [Mark_Gloster@3com.com] Re: Grammar rock [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan [lj lindhurst ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:47:07 +0100 From: xavier Subject: QE demos Hi, Can somebody help me get the tape with demos for Queen Elvis and also the one which contains studio recordings of covers, I´ve seen both mentioned on the list lately. I have a few tapes to trade with. BTW, Hi everybody this is my first message Best Xavier Escutia Llambias Stgo. Ramon y cajal 4 pal O7011 Palma de Mallorca Baleares Spain ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:19:04 -0500 From: biscotti and borscht Subject: while the woj is away... ...the fegs shall play. my occasionally threatened and often dreaded move to new haven is happening today. i'm not exactly sure when i'll be back amongst you folks, but i hope to have the computer back up and running sometime this weekend, probably. in the meantime, don't wreck the place. ;) ta ta, woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:22:14 -0000 From: "Matthew Knights" Subject: Grammar, Tablature & Best lines I've been impressed with Robyn's grasp of the English language since I heard him introduce "Face of Death" with the words "I don't know if any of you have ever lain around long enough to be discovered four days after you've just died in your own flat". The use of the word "lain" sounds obscure and old fashioned but - correct. James Dignan wrote: > So, what are YOUR favourite Robyn similes? I'm ashamed to admit I don't know what a simile is, but my favourite Robyn line is from Insanely Jealous: "but all I hear when they embrace Is just the kiss of skulls". The words "kiss of skulls" sound so menacing, resentful and bitter - I really feel like a jealous lover ! Eric wrote: > I've got to try and play some of this stuff The tablature to a few Robyn songs can be found at http://music.netsysinc.com/data/tabs/h/hitchcock_robyn/ Matt _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Knights mknights@harrywasp.prestel.co.uk `Ton ame est un lac d'amour dont mes desirs sont les cygnes...' _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:12:12 -0700 From: hal brandt Subject: Re: The Soft Boys Terrence M Marks wrote: > (I'm trying tfigure out how they progressed exactly, and it seems to be > from straightforwards rock to doo-wop to stranger doo-wop to rock again..) Doo-wop? I think you must be referring to some of the "Portland Arms" stuff. Wasn't that was just a one-off gig with some silliness thrown in? The Egyptians continued to do those "sillies" (i.e. 'Bananas', 'Book of Love', 'In The Mood') during various instore appearances through the eighties. I certainly don't think they ever specifically decided to "become" a doo-wop group at any time. It was just a little stylistic deviation for effect (and laughs!) utilizing some "hipper-than-thou" cover song choices. > Odd how the Soft Boys recorded some of Rew's songs and > he had enough > material to release an album pretty soon after they split, yet one of the > reasons that Robyn sites for the breakup is that "they were just a band > playing [his] songs". K. Rew's "Bible of Bop" was to the SB's what Geo. H's "All Things Must Pass" was to the Fabs! That happens when you have a dominant, prolific force in a band (L/McC in Beatles, RH in SB's) and a frustrated "extra wheel" songwriter smouldering within the group with songs that don't make the cut. Therefore, Robyn's statement is not odd at all. They were a band playing his songs which led to the ever-popular "creative differences", hence one of the reasons for the breakup. Why didn't they just record a bunch of Rew's tunes in lieu of all RH compositions? A) They weren't as strong and B) They conflicted with the leader's (Robyn's) creative vision. Time for a change! > discs to pick up if I > find myself in an alternate universe. (a third PF album with Barrett on it.) He was barely on the second one! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:21:24 -0500 From: Mike Scott Subject: rh shows Hello- I just signed on to the list yesterday, so forgive me if you've been through all this. I found the list while looking on the web for Robyn Hitchcock tour dates - here are the shows I found (all in U.K.): * 20 November - Jazz Cafe, London * 1 December - Concorde, Brighton * 3 December - Joiners, Southampton * 4 December - The Boat Race, Cambridge * 5 December - The Point, Oxford * 6 December - Princess Charlotte, Leicester So, are there others I didn't find? Any here in the states? Are these solo shows? I noticed that Virgin Air currently has a special on flights from N.Y. or Boston to London ($238. round trip - no kidding, see http://www.fly.virgin.com/), but tickets must be purchsed by Oct. 31. My wife is a huge RH fan and we might just be due for another visit to London, anyone know what the Jazz Cafe is like? What tickets are likely to cost and will it sell out? How about the Concorde or The Boat Race shows? Well, that's enough questions for my first post - thanks for your help. mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:09:35 From: Alex Tanter Subject: HALLOWEEN BASH AT ARLENE GROCERY >Return-path: >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:22:29 -0500 (EST) >From: denibonet@aol.com >Subject: HALLOWEEN BASH AT ARLENE GROCERY >To: tanter@econs.umass.edu > > Hey there all you Goblins and Goblinettes! > > Just thought I'd send you a little announcement that >I'm going to be having a "Costume Party" this Friday night >at my favorite scary place, ARLENE GROCERY. I'll be there >playing a very CREEPY set of music starting at 9 pm. >ARLENE is a little crypt that is located in the >Not-So-Scary Lower East Side of New York City. > (96 Stanton St...btw. Ludlow & Orchard). > >If you're not there, beware...we know where you live! >OOOHHH! (Have you ever had "Lady of Spain" played very loud >and out of tune on an accordian outside of your window when >the moon is full? VERY SCARY! EEEK!) > SO DON'T MISS THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME EXPERIENCE! >All my love,xox, DENI > >P.S. You can send any eeeeek-mail to me at: > denibonet@aol.com > >Check out the website at:www.bway.net/~dbonet > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:01:04 -0500 From: Mike Scott Subject: re: rh shows Just reread my earlier post, and boy did I sound obnoxious! My wife and I don't usually jet off around the world at a moments notice (not ever, really). We've been watching the airfares and thinking about a visit to London - the $238 ticket has me a little excited (in 1986, a round trip ticket was over $800)- add the possibility of seeing RH... We had been talking about a trip in January or February, but Robyn's shows in November and December have us scrambling. If there were U.S. shows close to home (Rhode Island), we might just wait on the trip... So now we have just over 24 hours to see if we can pull this off... If you can provide any answers to the questions in my original post (a copy follows), I would be appreciative. Please respond directly, since by the time I get the digest from the list it may be too late... Thanks!!! (and sorry I'm rambling) mike ========== copy of first post ============= Hello- I just signed on to the list yesterday, so forgive me if you've been through all this. I found the list while looking on the web for Robyn Hitchcock tour dates - here are the shows I found (all in U.K.): * 20 November - Jazz Cafe, London * 1 December - Concorde, Brighton * 3 December - Joiners, Southampton * 4 December - The Boat Race, Cambridge * 5 December - The Point, Oxford * 6 December - Princess Charlotte, Leicester So, are there others I didn't find? Any here in the states? Are these solo shows? I noticed that Virgin Air currently has a special on flights from N.Y. or Boston to London ($238. round trip - no kidding, see http://www.fly.virgin.com/), but tickets must be purchased by Oct. 31. My wife is a huge RH fan and we might just be due for another visit to London, anyone know what the Jazz Cafe is like? What tickets are likely to cost and will it sell out? How about the Concorde or The Boat Race shows? Well, that's enough questions for my first post - thanks for your help. mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 09:10:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan James asks: >So, what are YOUR favourite Robyn similes? here's a couple of creepy ones for halloween: ...she hangs like a cook had gone and hung her up there ...like a kind of spider half inclined to free you - -rr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:28:24 -0500 (EST) From: dy288@freenet.carleton.ca (Gregory Watson) Subject: Re: similes, metaphors, metallic semiphores... James Dignan wrote: > So, what are YOUR favourite Robyn similes? I always get similes and metaphors mixed up, but I'd have to say my favourite line (or verse, I guess) would be from Kingdom of Love: "You've been laying eggs under my skin, Now they're hatching out under my chin Now there's tiny insects showing through, And all them tiny insects look like you." Sorta sums up a lot of relationships, don't it? As far as the request for guitar tablature goes, I have but a warning: Beware.... well, be wary anyway - I've checked out tab for RH, and for the most part it is either very simplified, or just plain wrong (the Human Music tab that was posted on Fegmaniax recently comes to mind...). Don't worry, this isn't a problem exclusive to RH's music; I've been playing guitar for eleven years, and have encountered it *very* often. The bottom line is: trust your ears, not what you read (when it comes to music anyway!). Though if you want to figure out a particular song, e-mail me privately, and I'll try to help you out. Cheers, Greg - -- * Gregory Watson * * dy288@freenet.carleton.ca * www.ncf.carleton.ca/~dy288/ * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:57:52 -0500 (EST) From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan How about, "like some kind of helpless, diseased houseplant". What's the other one in "Swirling"-- something about "like the highway (?) surrounding a drunken man that starts to spin(?)...he looked up above him/even the angels were asleep/....ah, October" ? How does that go? Actually, I'd like to see EXACTLY WHAT he does say in this song. Has anyone been successful in transcribing it? There are a few things I can never quite figure out. Lyrics, anyone? I don't care what you guys say- I LOVE _Queen Elvis_! It has got to be one of my favorite albums of all time ever. Ever. Right up there with _Frampton Comes Alive!_, is what I'm sayin. I mean, it's almost as good as that first Asia album, man. making even myself cringe at the thought, lj n.p.: Superchunk's _Tossing Seeds_ just so I can hear "Cast Iron"... (wanna hear a review of their show last night?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:05:01 -0600 (CST) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan Not to revive the Perspex debate, but I've always liked the simplicity of: "The silent majority's the crime of the century" - -Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:48:55 -0800 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Orange-like Visions (RH content questionable) Hey all, While perusing online Krautrock sites, I came upon a interesting thought-provoker. In 1986 Tangerine Dream released an minor album called _Underwater Sunlight_. It held a track titled _Underwater Twilight_. Hmmm. Mike Runion ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:45:03 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: RH tunings? 1) Some magazines credit Robyn with using all sorts of odd tunings. This is entirely wrong. 2) Heliotrope is in some odd open-C tuning. I've seen five different versions of it and don't know which is which. One of the versions of "Wid Open Star" from the In-Store appearance is in an open tuning. Apart from that, I believe that he uses standard. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:49:21 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence M Marks Subject: Re: The Soft Boys > Doo-wop? I think you must be referring to some of the "Portland Arms" > stuff. Wasn't that was just a one-off gig with some silliness thrown in? > The Egyptians continued to do those "sillies" (i.e. 'Bananas', 'Book of A lot of Can of Bees seems mildly doo-wopish. And you've got Have a Heart and a few others. Was Kimberly on the Radar single/album? > > > discs to pick up if I > > find myself in an alternate universe. (a third PF album with Barrett on it.) > > He was barely on the second one! Well, yeah. But a nice fusion between More and Barrett would sound a *lot* better than just having Syd play on Set the Controls and Saucerful.. Terrence Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:59:58 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: re: grammar rock >Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:25:04 -0800 (PST) >From: Capuchin >Subject: re: grammar rock ... >Or perhaps it's "in the shape of you, and I swarming around us...". I'm pretty sure it's "...in the shape of you, an eye, swarming around us...". - -- Jason R. Thornton // Chapman Stick, Silver #2125 "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson "...the Year 2000 won't change anyone here" - Morrissey, _Reader Meet Author_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:44:06 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Teenage Kicks On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, lj lindhurst wrote: > I don't care what you guys say- I LOVE _Queen Elvis_! It has got to be one > of my favorite albums of all time ever. Ever. Right up there with > _Frampton Comes Alive!_, is what I'm sayin. I hear that Frampton has joined Bill Wyman's new band. I guess those other guys were getting a bit sedate for Bill... - - hssmrg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:38:28 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: RH tunings? On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > 1) Some magazines credit Robyn with using all sorts of odd tunings. > This is entirely wrong. > 2) Heliotrope is in some odd open-C tuning. I've seen five different > versions of it and don't know which is which. One of the versions of "Wid > Open Star" from the In-Store appearance is in an open tuning. Apart from > that, I believe that he uses standard. The last time I heard him play 'Heliotrope', he did an opening strum which sounded just like 'Birdshead'. I bet those two are in the same tuning. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:52:21 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: BoB: brought to U by the letter I So, Russ replies to Terrence thusly: > >2a) I'm surprised that nothing off of that was a hit. I could see > >"Fighting SOmeone's War" or "Nightmare" or "My baby does her hairdo > > long"making it big > > tiny label = tiny publicity. I am a *little* surprised that BoB > didn't come a little more into the forefront after Katrina & The Waves > became famous. Don't forget the musical climate at the time. The music industry is notoriously faddish (especially in the UK) and if what you have to offer isn't "trendy" - no matter how good it is - you'll have a hard time promoting it. The SBs suffered from this in spades - they tried to pass themselves off as a punk band if you remember, but the cap didn't really fit! The frustration over that whole process was certainly one of the factors in the breakup of the band. Why wasn't BoB pushed after Katrina & the Waves had a hit? Because the focus of the success was *Katrina*, not The Waves! If it had been "Kimberley and The Waves" it might have been a different story... Michael R. C-spot Long-train Runion added to the brew: > > And "...it's in the shape of you and I..." is not. Robyn sings that > > in "A Happy Bird (Is a Filthy Bird)" and it drives me nut. > > Ah, but perhaps it's in the shape of 'U' and 'I', hmmm? I'm imagining > big blue styrofoam letters on a cheesy cardboard fake-brick wall, a la > Sesame Street. Good advice, Mike. If anyone else is upset by the ungrammatical nature of these lyrics just imagine you're watching Sesame Street. Works for me. (Wait a minute. I *am* watching Sesame Street!) ~N ('Course if the song were by a certain prince, formerly known as an artist, U would have 2 consider a different explanation) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:08:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Children's Television Worship" Subject: Re: RH tunings? There is also the often used Dropped-D and double Dropped-D. over, .chris On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > > 1) Some magazines credit Robyn with using all sorts of odd tunings. > > This is entirely wrong. > > 2) Heliotrope is in some odd open-C tuning. I've seen five different > > versions of it and don't know which is which. One of the versions of "Wid > > Open Star" from the In-Store appearance is in an open tuning. Apart from > > that, I believe that he uses standard. > > The last time I heard him play 'Heliotrope', he did an opening strum which > sounded just like 'Birdshead'. I bet those two are in the same tuning. > > - Mike Godwin > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: re: grammar rock On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Bayard wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Runion, Michael R. wrote: > > > Ah, but perhaps it's in the shape of 'U' and 'I', hmmm? > > yeah! or "You and Di". or > > It's in the shape of you/And I, swirling around us.... How about "it's in the shape of you and eye" OK ok. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, lj lindhurst wrote: > How about, "like some kind of helpless, diseased houseplant". > What's the other one in "Swirling"-- something about "like the highway (?) > surrounding a drunken man that starts to spin(?)...he looked up above > him/even the angels were asleep/....ah, October" ? How does that go? Actually, it's in "Autumn Sea" and it's "watching his future and his past gradually become interchangeable like the highway surrounding a drunken man that's beginning to spin" or something like that. Let me check my archive. > Actually, I'd like to see EXACTLY WHAT he does say in this song. Has > anyone been successful in transcribing it? There are a few things I can > never quite figure out. Lyrics, anyone? OK... here it is: Autumn Sea Somewhere in the Autumn Sea The kind of love you are to me I stole you From a very special friend So the friendship had to end And how You can't kill relationship Watch them drown like sinking ships Around you But to live is to betray Every second, every day Oh wow Here comes the now Somewhere in the autumn air I can smell you everywhere Beside me Though your face has disappeared Finally I know I cared For you As the leaf falls in the sea Slips the sand of memory Inside me Rows of lights flash off and on Finally I see you've gone It's true What can I do? *SPOKEN* *"Hunting, no, I think it's a perfectly beastly sport," quipped Frobisher as he leaned on the mantelpiece over the crisp autumn fire. Franshaw felt his calves warming pleasantly as the brandy seeped below his waist, knotting slightly over the abdomen, suddenly passing up through the spine causing a trickle of the otherwise pleasing brown fluid to shoot from the fountain on top of his head which landed all over the other guy's head (I've forgotten his name now) -- aw, anyway, he got covered in it. *"Ha! What's this?" *"Some kind of fluid," said Franshaw. *"Fluid? Oh, that's the tops!" Somewhere in the autumn sky Cross my heart and swear to die I chose you Trails burning everywhere Sulphur fingers in the air I scream Brambles swarm around the fence Everything in deep suspense I froze you Out but it's your point of view I am just somebody who Has been Into your dream *SPOKEN* *"No, they use them for clothespegs, you know." continued Franshaw, somewhat more droll. *"Really?" said Butterworth, who was feeling rather left out of the conversation. *"Oh yes, that's right, you know. They pick them up in Siberia and bring them over." *"Siberia!" interjected the fellow whose name I still can't remember. "Stomping place! Went there once, found a little moustache (one of the Russkies had it). Took it home, don't you know, showed the little lady. She put it on. Left me for another woman. Odd things, lefts... and women." He was left alone. There was no one there, not even a woman, just the fireplace and his ever swelling chins as the brandy began taking its full effects. Franshaw (or was it Butterworth or was it the other guy whose name I can't remember?) found himself slowly turning into some kind of helpless, diseased houseplant as he watched his future and his past gradually become interchangeable like a highway surrounding a drunken man that begins to spin. He looked up above him. Even the angels were asleep. It was one of those nights. *Hmmm... October. There you have it. > I don't care what you guys say- I LOVE _Queen Elvis_! It has got to be one > of my favorite albums of all time ever. Ever. Right up there with > _Frampton Comes Alive!_, is what I'm sayin. I mean, it's almost as good as > that first Asia album, man. Queen Elvis is still my favorite Robyn album... Quite probably my favorite album. I hope you're kidding about Frampton and Asia. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 18:48:09 EST From: Ross Overbury Subject: Re: grammar rock > > > > > Ah, but perhaps it's in the shape of 'U' and 'I', hmmm? > > > > yeah! or "You and Di". or > > > > It's in the shape of you/And I, swirling around us.... > > How about "it's in the shape of you and eye" > It's in this shape, pa. View and die! - -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 15:55:25 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: CDNow Pop Article (0.3% RH) Interesting quickie for us Robyn lovers: I was just doing some browsing on the CDNow web site when I came across the following article. It's about the "Decadent Pop of the '90s" and mentions quite few past and present bands I've heard mentioned on this list, e.g. Olivia Tremor Control, Tall Dwarfs, Nick Drake, Eric Matthews, ... The URL: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=718974087/pagename=/RP/GENRE/ROCK/ ARTICLES/decpop1.html - -tc p.s. To the Bay Area Feg Lunchers: Captain Beyond!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:54:05 -0600 (CST) From: sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (amadain) Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan Admirable work, dear chap. However, I had a few corrections/questions regarding the spoken narrative. >knotting slightly over the abdomen, suddenly passing up through the spine >causing a trickle of the otherwise pleasing brown fluid to shoot from the >fountain on top of his head which landed all over the other guy's head >(I've forgotten his name now) -- aw, anyway, he got covered in it. I always hear that as "he wor covered in it". Anyone else? I could be completely wrong. However, I'm 99 percent sure on the next one. >*"Siberia!" interjected the fellow whose name I still can't remember. >"Stomping place! "Topping". > Went there once, found a little moustache (one of the >Russkies had it). Took it home, don't you know, showed the little lady. >She put it on. Left me for another woman. Odd things, lefts... and >women." He was left alone. I always thought it was "rum things, lefts...." but that could be because I read too much P.G. Wodehouse as a child :). It seems, though, like a Robynesque word choice. I meant to post about this earlier and forgot to, and thought about just not mentioning it since the thread seems to be dead, but since Halloween is a good time to revive the dead and half-dead, I wanted to ask if someone could post the full set of lyrics to the now infamous "folk intro" to "Madonna of the Wasps". I'm -extremely- interested in knowing them. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:46:44 -0500 From: "Wookie Conscious" Subject: new songs would anybody who has a nice neat copy of all of the new songs like to make me a copy of all the new songs. this would be the nicest thing somebody could do for me. thanks. - --namdam my birthday was yesterday. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:00:52 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: tunings, ebow(la), captain beyond... I don't think Robyn has been too experimental with his tunings up to Moss(y)(E)l[y](iquo)[xi]r(and sometimes y). He does use some pretty cool voicings up the neck (see '94 or '95 fegscussion on jangling or djangling as it sometimes was spelled by people named Djames). I think he used a few different tunings on ME. Yea, a dropped D here or there. I'm sure some smart, resourceful fegs could rearrange his songs splendidly with the use of some clever alternate tunings. Incidentally, I really like playing slide in a Dmaj tuning. Dmin is fun too. Someone asked if others compared the Ebow to the Gizmo for similarity to actual bowed orchestra strings. There is no comparison. The Gizmo drove the strings in realtime like a real bow. An Ebow just kind of fades in. My sustainer just sustains, but it does it well. Tom, I think I like "Dr. Alzheimer" better than "Captain Beyond." Rubber Sharks And Trailer Parks, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:35:36 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Grammar rock >>is "sometimes i wish i was a pretty girl" correct? no, the next word should have been "...were..." in formal speech. The subjunctive clause is gradually dying, though, and in informal speech "I wish I was" is perfectly acceptable. The Midge Ure song "If I was" always used to bother me for this (and one other*) reason. James (taking a break from marking Psychology intermediate - read 'fresher' - - papers. Was I really as dumb as that a few years back???) *The other reason was that it was written, sung, and played, by Midge Ure. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:05:54 -0500 (EST) From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Robyn - Metaphor Man meets Simile Stan >Actually, it's in "Autumn Sea" and it's "watching his future and his past >gradually become interchangeable like the highway surrounding a drunken >man that's beginning to spin" or something like that. Let me check my >archive. Yes, oh duhhh-- you're right. It's "Autumn Sea," not "Swirling". I should stop smokin crack before I post. Thank you thank you for posting the lyrics!! Now I'm obsessively listening to _Queen Elvis_... lj n.p.: hey! _Striptease_, starring Dummy Moore is on!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:59:31 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: bret/more robynbase hey, anybody know what happened to bret? (that's bret with one t) of fegmaniax.org fame... i need server space for the database site. robynbase is online so take a look and let me know where i went wrong before the data starts going in. ftp to 158.72.85.155 with login "temp" and password "fegman". the stuff is in directory rb1. rb.mdb is access 7.0 and db1 is access97. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #52 ******************************