From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #38 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 17 1997 Volume 06 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: bowl of globes [Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer ] Re: Folk q: [M R Godwin ] Re: geography [M R Godwin ] Re: Conan and Dave's live CD's (RH=0%) ["Jesus Chrysler" ] Re: bowl of frogs [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)] robyn game [Bayard ] Re: robyn game [John Barrington Jones ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:10:57 +0100 From: Stewart Russell 3295 Analyst_Programmer Subject: Re: bowl of globes >>>>> "randi" == randi spiegel writes: randi> s/he who knows her/himself is enlightened* I've been hacking too long; I read that and thought "Broken regexp!". Stewart (recovering from a loud Mike Scott concert, whose ex-sax player recorded with ykw... -- 0.037% Robyn Content) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: CooperTJ@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V6 #36 In a message dated 97-10-15 03:54:59 EDT, James Dignan writes: << Denver->NGDB->Browne->Zevon->REM->RH >> This is the kind of thing that makes the internet worthwhile....maybe the fegman should cover Excitable Boy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:53:12 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Re: Conan and Dave's live CD's (RH=0%) Here you all go: Live from 6A: Great Musical Performances from Late Night with Conan O'Brien (out now) - 1. Ani Defranco - Shameless (11/20/96) 2. David Bowie - Dead Man Walking (4/10/97) 3. Matthew Sweet - Do Ya (6/5/97) 4. Jamiroquai - When You Gonna Learn (11/3/93) 5. Bjork - Human Behavior (11/10/93) 6. Elvis Costello - All This Useless Beauty (5/21/96) 7. Jonathan Richman - Let Her Go Into Darkness (7/28/95) 8. Cake - The Distance (11/8/96) 9. Edwyn Collins - A Girl Like You (10/10/95) 10. 311 - Down (9/23/96) 11. Soul Coughing - Soundtrack to Mary (8/16/96) 12. Squirrel Nut Zippers - Lover's Lane (7/18/95) Live on Letterman: Music from The Late Show (Due Nov 8) - 1. Jerry Garcia & David Grisman - Friend Of The Devil (9/15/93) 2. Sheryl Crow - Strong Enough (2/16/95) 3. Lou Reed - Sweet Jane (1/5/94) 4. Dave Matthews Band - Too Much (5/17/96) 5. Aretha Franklin - Think (4/14/94) 6. Paula Cole - I Don't Want To Wait (8/27/97) 7. Elvis Costello & Burt Bacharach - God Give Me Strength (2/25/97) 8. Lyle Lovett and Al Green - Funny How Time Slips Away (4/19/94) 9. Van Morrison/Sinead O'Conner/The Chieftans - Have I Told You Lately That I Love You (5/17/95) 10. Jewel w/ Flea - You Were Meant For Me (9/2/96) 11. Rod Steward - Reason To Believe (9/29/93) 12. REM - Crush With Eyeliner (6/23/95) 13. Lenny Kravitz - Are You Gonna Go My Way (9/9/93) 14. Patti Smith - Who Do You Love (2/14/97) That's it. Mike Runion fegmaps: www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/fegmaps VCM: www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/cones.htm Tapelist: www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/bootlegs.htm Home: www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Carl Abraham Zimring Subject: Re: Conan and Dave's live CD's (RH=0%) Excerpts from internet.music.fegmaniax: 16-Oct-97 Re: Conan and Dave's live C.. by Runion, Michael R.@tng.n > 9. Van Morrison/Sinead O'Conner/The Chieftans - Have I Told You Lately > That I Love You (5/17/95) That made it to disc?! Ha! Van's out of his mind and almost knocks Sinead over with the mikestand...I love Van Morrison. (reference Linden Arden and Fair Play for negligible RH content.) Carl Fear & Whiskey countrypunkROKnewwavenoisejazzpyschedelicpopbluesfolkcelticsoulandmore Mondays 7-10pm EDT In Pittsburgh: WRCT 88.3fm In the rest of the known universe: http://www.wrct.org Playlists: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~cz28/fear.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:39:40 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Stayin' Alive We've changed seasons at least once, and another school holiday just went by, so it must be time for me to post something. On the subject of country/folk/etc., someone commented that current folk music is traditionally political, but old folk music isn't. Much of the old stuff was political in its day, though, although if you go back far enough the message was generally subtle; you didn't have a lyric where the singer looks down from on high and explains the message buried within the song. And another name for the older banjo/fiddle-led music is bluegrass, although that too has some extra baggage (uptempo, fast fretwork, etc.) And for a great tribute to John Denver, check out Eek a Mouse's take on "Take me home, Country Road". I don't know what album it was originally on, but it was collected on an album called "Brand New, Second Hand." And add me to the list of major Coen brother fans. I go out of my way to recommend music to people, but I usually keep mum on films. Fargo, on the other hand, was such a great combination of humor and drama, I even told my mother to go see it. I can't think of any movie that changes moods that well since "American Werewolf in London" (which I also own). If you're thinking of buying "Fargo", watch for the special edition that's out. Same video, but it comes packaged with a snow globe. When you shake it, snow falls gently on McDermond's (sp?) character, as she kneels beside a bloody body next to an overturned car. What a hoot, eh? ObRobyn: On the subject of Globe of Frogs/Box of Globes, there's an album called Box of Frogs, also. It's by most of the non-Clapton former members of the Yardbirds, plus additional musicians including Rory Galagher. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!! :*) Dave. David Witzany witzany@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu ....one of Nature's bounds checkers - ------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:05:24 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Folk q: On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Gregory Watson wrote: > I always thought that by definition, folk music is anything besides "art" > music, ie. it's passed on orally but not written down (notated). I agree > that a lot of it was written anonymously, but all of it? That would include all the songwriters who never learned to write dots, (including Paul McCartney) wouldn't it? I think that's too wide. There is a legal definition under which the piece normally appears as "Trad" and the performer can claim 'arrangement' fees. I know there was a huge row in the Animals when their mega-hit folk song "House of the Rising Sun" came out as "Trad arr. Alan Price". Price copped all the royalties and left the band, although Hilton Valentine and other members claimed they had actually written the arrangement. And there was another case where Martin Carthy claimed that Paul Simon had nicked his arrangement of the folk song "Scarboro' Fair". I think he lost because there were no changes to the tune or words, only to the guitar part - or something like that. Anyway, somewhere or other folk music must be legally defined. > "Fuzz is not quite as popular as it once was. In the late sixties and early > seventies almost every electric guitarist used it heavily. As with any over- > used effect, fuzz has become rather trite."-Delton T. Horn TBBoEM Admittedly you don't hear the precise noise from "Keep on running" or "Purple haze" everyday (worse luck). But all those boxes called "Tube Screamer", "Overdrive Shredder", "Metal Scrunch Distortion" etc. are basically fuzz boxes, aren't they? I think that virtually all lead guitar sounds are now processed electronically, and we are so used to hearing fuzz-type distortion that we hardly notice it any more. - - Mike Godwin "I'm dead and all they can talk about is Wheat" - Woody Allen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:56:56 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: geography On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, dee zed stroke zero one five wrote: > y'know...what we need poor americans *really* need, even more than a list > of men's names in robyn's songs, is an gazeteer of all the place names that > robyn mentions in his songs: swindon, east grinstead, romsey, etc. the > multitude of english geopolitical divisions frazzle me almost, but not > quite, as much as the multitude of dialects! Most of them are in the south (in London or south and west of it). I can't think of any Cambridge namechecks but there may be some. The Portland Arms is in Cambridge but it's in an album title, not a song. ('Grantchester Meadows' is a Cambridge ref but that's Roger Waters). Anyway, here are a few for starters: Winchester - former capital, cathedral city in Hampshire Basingstoke - market town in Hampshire, mundane Reading - big market town in Berkshire (but the great wen is grasping towards it) Swindon - fast-growing town in Wiltshire, former HQ of the Great Western Railway, home of XTC Honiton Clyst - village in Devon, much further west than most places mentioned Frognal - near Finchley Road, sort of Hampstead area of NW London The Northern Line - London tube line that goes north-south Romsey - town near Southampton East Grinstead - mid-Sussex, I think Guildford - midway between Basingstoke and East Grinstead Norwich - cathedral city in Norfolk (111 miles NE of London) The Hope - Hope and Anchor pub in Islington, ultra-trendy north London The Glass Hotel - southern tip of the Isle of Wight St Petersburg - town to the east of Warsaw Oh, all those Rhondda, Merthyr, Rhymney, Rhyader places are South Wales mining towns, but 'Bells of Rhymney' isn't an RH composition. Presumably 'Only the Stones Remain' refers to Stonehenge, which is on Salisbury Plain north of Romsey. But it could mean Avebury, near Swindon, or possibly even Mick and Keef... On a slightly different point, RH has said that 'Airscape' was written beside Freshwater Bay and 'Oceanside' was written by Compton Bay, both on the Isle of Wight. I'm sure there are plenty more. Any suggestions? - - Mike ('yer, why'm I taalkin' in this Baarth accent?') Godwin Corrigenda A couple of recent typos: 'Arnold Layne', not 'Arthur Lane' 'Paul Whitehouse', not 'Paul Whirehouse' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:46:35 -0700 From: "Jesus Chrysler" Subject: Re: Conan and Dave's live CD's (RH=0%) Runion, Michael R. dixit: > Jewel w/ Flea - You Were Meant For Me (9/2/96) What the ?????? Which sick, twisted soul thunk up this combination? - --g "Everything we do is music." --John Cage ___________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net My Web Site of the Week: "The Canonical List of WEIRD Band Names" http://home.earthlink.net/~chellec/ ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 17:59:35 EST From: Hollie_Satterfield@mail.amsinc.com Subject: Goldmine music collecting magazine Anybody who would like a sample copy of Goldmine magazine should e-mail me their mailing address. As a subscriber, I always get these postage paid cards asking me for friends who want a free sample, and I have run out of friends. Goldmine is a lot like Computer Shopper for music collectors, i.e. mostly advertising content vs. a few enthusiastic articles. Scour the small print for your own copy of Live Death and etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: paging John Taylor John, please email me, I don't have your current email address. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:24:15 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: bowl of frogs Trivia Woman! sez: >Did you know that Mike Myers (Saturday Night Live/Austin Powers) has >brother named Paul who had a band here in Toronto...and had an album >that was titled *Bowl Of Globes* after Robyn's *Globe of Frogs*? I see your bowl and raise you one feast! New Zealand's Bill Direen (Hi Eb!) has an almost impossible to obtain EP called "Feast of Frogs", which contains his translation of four songs by a prominent French folk singer (erm, folk-rock?) James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:34:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: robyn game all this talk about feast/bowl/pod/fistful of frogs reminded me of something else that happened at bumbershoot. We were hanging out in the stadium, waiting for the next band, with the lovely space needle in view. Daniel was trying to teach me how to play Magic with a cardset he got free from the Wizards of the Coast booth. I was undecided on my next move. "Hit him with your globe of frogs," Lobsterman suggested. It would be kind of blasphemous for someone else to draw a tarot-esque deck of cards of robyncharacters, but perhaps one of you artistic types would like to try. here are a few ideas. i still don't know how to play magic, so we'd need the help of someone who does (and you know who you are.) the face of death lightbulb head the cat's head ghouls professor fane madonna of the wasps the fly the black crow the leopard the crawling (the shadow/the thing itself) leppo/the jooves balloon man acid bird the lizard sandra's brain the abandoned brain anglepoise lamp the sacred crab capt. dry ghost ship cones clones fiend (before the shrine) lobsterman wafflehead the dust beautiful girl transparent lover queen elvis chinese water python executioner of love gran jj loomis mr. deadly vegetable friend madonna of the wasps - --environments globe of frogs kingdom of love the glass hotel the pit of souls st. petersburg satellite college of ice aquarium raining twilight coast airscape an inner plane america the aetheric plane the future (to strand someone in) the gates of wisdom the city of shame out of the picture heaven - --spells/weapons positive vibrations underwater moonlight egyptian cream wax doll uncorrected personality traits groovy decay/decoy cynthia mask your devil mask your drugs brenda's iron sledge furry green atom bomb winter love ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:53:41 -0700 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: robyn game Bayard quipped: >It would be kind of blasphemous for someone else to draw a tarot-esque >deck of cards of robyncharacters, but perhaps one of you artistic types >would like to try. > >here are a few ideas. i still don't know how to play magic, so we'd need >the help of someone who does (and you know who you are.) wow, not only did this cause me to chortle, chuckle and otherwise create joyous noise in an otherwise quiet apartment, but it also struck me as a great idea! We could make up alot of these decks, and then during our feg gatherings that we inevitably have, or between the opening act and robyn, we could whip out our decks and play "the game"! Love, John (who has a pair of +4 Railway Shoes, and I'll freeze you in your tracks with my tennis ball!) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #38 ******************************