From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #37 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 16 1997 Volume 06 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Folk q: [M R Godwin ] Re: Folk q: [dy288@freenet.carleton.ca (Gregory Watson)] "i preminisced no return of the salad days." (666% robyn) ["Eddie Tews" ] arcana [John Barrington Jones ] bowl of globes [twofangs/randi spiegel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:49:45 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Folk q: On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > Is there any term used to differentiate folk (one guy, usually from new > york, with a guitar, whining about current political issues) from folk > (involves traditional tunes, banjos, fiddles, etc.) > And if the second folk is reall country, how can we differentiate that > from that twangy steel-guitars-in-Nashville sound that some people call > "country"... In the UK, the steel guitars one is always called "country'n'western". "Country" is the banjos and fiddles, "new country" is anything which sounds like "Lone Star state of mind". "Singer-songwriter" can cover a number of musical styles (Steven Bishop, Rupert Holmes, Bob Dylan, Michael Chapman, Joni Mitchell, Andrew Gold etc etc) so I don't think it's much help. I think I remember Bob Dylan being referred to as "folk-protest" at one time, but that was before he shifted into that amphetamine-electric thing. But by strict definition, folk music is written by that prolific writer "Anon", so anything with a known author is excluded. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:58:03 -0400 (EDT) From: dy288@freenet.carleton.ca (Gregory Watson) Subject: Re: Folk q: Mike Godwin wrote: > >But by strict definition, folk music is written by that prolific writer >"Anon", so anything with a known author is excluded. I always thought that by definition, folk music is anything besides "art" music, ie. it's passed on orally but not written down (notated). I agree that a lot of it was written anonymously, but all of it? Greg - -- * Gregory Watson * dy288@freenet.carleton.ca * www.ncf.carleton.ca/~dy288/ * "Fuzz is not quite as popular as it once was. In the late sixties and early seventies almost every electric guitarist used it heavily. As with any over- used effect, fuzz has become rather trite."-Delton T. Horn TBBoEM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:39:27 PDT From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: "i preminisced no return of the salad days." (666% robyn) well, hope you all had a happy genocide, er, columbus day. anyhow... >>>I suppose it's even more ironic that he once wrote "Leavin' On A >>>Jet Plane", eh? >>Drivin'n'Cryin' do a rather cool cover of this song on their latest >>album. >Speaking of JD covers, I heard Jason n' The Scorchers doing >"Take Me Home, Country Roads" last Saturday. both of which are also covered by me first and the gimme gimmes. still, the best song on their HAVE A BALL record has got to be Uptown Girl. >that the differences are more striking and easier to grab than the >more subtle aspects of story telling, the irony or relevance of the plot, >the deep and intimate portrayal of the characters, or just the >whipsmart dialogue. it's probably just that if the morons can't totally follow the plot on the first viewing, they give up on it. i think some of them want the coens to make "important" movies. hey, ken loach and john sayles are great. really. but Barton Fink devastates me every time i watch it. that's got to count for something, doesn't it? and, the dialog is more than just "whipsmart." it's just downright the best dialog you'll ever find anywhere. nobody but nobody has ever written dialog like the coens. and don't forget carter burwell's scores. Fargo may have gotten robbed in numerous categories at this year's oscars, but at least it was *nominated* in numerous categories. how they could fail to nominate the score is just beyond my comprehension. ...ok, ok, i know i should be talking about all this on the coen list. (*is* there a coen bros. list, by the way?) but it's a slow fegday, so... let me just say that i think the coens are on the hottest roll since kubrick tossed off The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, and A Clockwork Orange consecutively. that's seven amazing flicks in a row, and the coens are at six now, with the seventh due out soon. even more impressive, to me, is that The Killing was kubrick's third movie, whereas the coens started their amazing run with their very first. and, it took kubrick twenty years for his lucky seven, while it's only gonna have taken the coens thirteen. >Ms. McDormand's statement, I think, also means that you won't be >bored EVER, even if you've already seen the movie a godbillion >times. whether that's what she meant by it or not, i can certainly vouch for it. i've seen them all at least ten times, and i absolutely cannot get tired of any of them. i'd guess there are about three scenes in all six movies where i say, "yeah, i guess i don't really need to see this scene again." there is one tiny drawback, i guess. i've seen Miller's Crossing something like 35 times, and, after that many viewings, i'm kind of sorry to have detected a few small holes in the plot, and a few time discontinuities. but i won't lose any sleep over that. >There is little in this world that I dig more than watching a Coen >Brothers picture. couldn't agree more. hey, here's an idea. any fegs in the vancouver-victoria-seattle- portland-bethesda metropolitan area interested in a coen bros. film festival? we could watch them all back to back, then go out and screen The Big Lebowski. well, it's just a thought. >After the initial screening, agency folks sat around stunned at how >uninteresting it was. Someone made a comment to that effect. To >this, the Coens replied "I KNOW! Isn't it GREAT! It's JUST LIKE A >REAL COMMERCIAL!" Oh boy. their favorite color is brown, so there you have it. this story just makes me think about the meeting table in Hudsucker. i think that's one of the most delightful props i've ever seen in a movie. but i can imagine that a bunch of ad execs wouldn't be any too impressed by it. Fuck You! I won't do what you tell me! (repeat fourteen times) --Rage Against the Machine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:27:02 -0700 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: arcana friends, I just received a tape of an egyptians show that claims to be recorded in Baltimore on new year's eve, 1991. However, the newest songs are from Globe of Frogs, and the setlist looks very much like a 1988 tour show. My question is: Could this show be from New Year's EVe, 1988? Does anyone have any tapes from Baltimore around that time? Just wondering. - -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:lobstie@e-z.net web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Force is the weapon of the weak." -Ammon Hennessey \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:14:23 -0400 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: bowl of globes Hey all, Did you know that Mike Myers (Saturday Night Live/Austin Powers) has brother named Paul who had a band here in Toronto...and had an album that was titled *Bowl Of Globes* after Robyn's *Globe of Frogs*? just call me trivia woman :) fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* - Robyn Hitchcock *s/he who knows others is wise s/he who knows her/himself is enlightened* - Tao Te Ching ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #37 ******************************