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fegmaniax-digest      Monday, September 29 1997      Volume 06 : Number 019



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Lost Song In The Ground                                [ALaw144480@aol.com]
  Icepick In The Forehead                                [ALaw144480@aol.com]
  Re: other msuci (erm... music)(cleaners from mucus)    [ALaw144480@aol.com]
  Re: "Something for everyone at Herfy's today." (0% RH)  [jlaw@mem.unibe.ch]
  you gotta try this!                      ["Eddie Tews" <etews@hotmail.com>]
  Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale  ["Daniel Saunders" <dsaunder@islandnet.c]
  Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale  [Carole Reichstein <carole@technical.pow]
  Re: mucus and snog-writhing  [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dig]
  precious little of anything, really  [james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (J]
  Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale  ["Daniel Saunders" <dsaunder@islandnet.c]

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 05:52:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALaw144480@aol.com
Subject: Lost Song In The Ground 

Has anyone noticed or questioned the remnants of some lost tune in the right
speaker (I think...perhaps the left) at the end of the demo version of Bones
In The Ground on the Rhino CD reissue...just wondering.
- ------Chris W

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 06:28:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALaw144480@aol.com
Subject: Icepick In The Forehead

yes I think though Art Barrow is considered a better bass player...Scott
Thunes' playing though certainly less flashy rocks this world and was quite
perfect acompaniment to the Scutinizer's solos
- ---ummmmm....Me

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 06:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALaw144480@aol.com
Subject: Re: other msuci (erm... music)(cleaners from mucus)

Yes James, Mr. Newell ist good.  I have yet to hear The Greatest Living...
but do own a CD comp of The Cleaners From Venus, which was Newell's old band.
 Robynesque in the sense that it's provincial Brit pop in the OLD sense of
the word...not the evilness you cats been sticking in our teenage girl's
rooms all across the States.(and some older ones, but perhaps stupider ones
as well)  Good stuff...quite catchy...yet not up to par with Robyn.  (sorry
Martin!!).  You even get a tune called "Song For Syd Barrett"
     I recall with fondness DJ Irwin Chusid playing Victoria Gray on good old
WFMU (91.1 fm East Orange NJ...the best radio station EVER) way back when.
 It took me 9 years to finally get the record.
- ---oh by the way I LOVE YOU ALL
- ------Chris W

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:33:17 +0200
From: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch (Jeff Lawrence)
Subject: Re: "Something for everyone at Herfy's today." (0% RH)

**From: "Eddie Tews" <etews@hotmail.com>
**
** you know, i don't generally pay much attention to all that seven signs 
** of the apocalypse stuff.  but, david bowie shilling for satan (aka 
** microsoft)??  ouch!  or, is it that ryko owns all those songs, leaving 
** bowie completely out of the loop?

Um Eddie, for those of us outside the U.S./Canada and/or have no television,
could you enlighten us as to what Bowie is being for what by Microsoft?
I'm a big Bowie fan and this news clip comes as a total shock to me - can
you fill me in (either on this list or in private)?

Thanks :-)

<Now back to your regularly scheduled fegging out...>

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:29:25 PDT
From: "Eddie Tews" <etews@hotmail.com>
Subject: you gotta try this!

some of you (sicker) fegs may remember from the filing system thread 
that i keep my cd's in those big caselogic notebooks.  but i keep a few 
jewel boxes scattered around for when i want to transport fewer than 100 
cd's at a time.
so, last night i was packing up ELEMENT OF LIGHT, to loan to 
fegJeannine, in one of those green-tinted ryko jewel boxes. (did you 
know they have a copyright on those things, by the way?  or a trademark 
or whatever.  anyway, no one else is allowed to make them.)   i slipped 
the booklet in there, and it was so amazingly cool looking you wouldn't 
even believe it!  i just sat and stared at it for several minutes. you 
gotta try it.

>Um Eddie, for those of us outside the U.S./Canada and/or have no 
>television could you enlighten us as to what Bowie is being for what 
>by Microsoft? I'm a big Bowie fan and this news clip comes as a total 
>shock to me - can you fill me in (either on this list or in private)?
i don't know any details of the campaign or anything.  like, how they 
used Start Me Up to sell Windows '95.  i don't know if they're doing 
anything like that for Memphis, or what.
but, i just saw some MicroSatan commercial the other night, with 
"Heroes" playing under the "action."  i don't even remember what the 
"action" was.  bunch of fucking idiots running around saving the world 
or something.  man, that was so depressing.

yes .chris, i want a paragraph.  no, i want a damned monologue.  forget 
schoolwork.  feg comes first!

"I really believe that capitalism ultimately becomes responsible to 
nothing but itself and its own principles, and we're seeing that in a 
very accelerated way in this country and globally at this time.  It's 
not that we're not also seeing pockets of resistance which, as you have 
documented, often don't even get reported.  But I guess I would rather 
be there with those people than part of a celebration at the White 
House.  I don't see that there's anything to celebrate at the White 
House."

      --poet Adrienne Rich, explaining why she'd turned down an 
invitation to receive the National Medal for the Arts from President 
Clinton.


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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:51:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Daniel Saunders" <dsaunder@islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale

> A bizarre sight as the crowd was swaying, clapping, and singing along to
> Viva SeaTac -- all but Bayard, who was sitting stock-still, directly
> facing the band, trying to get the best recording possible.  A small
> island in a rolling sea of humanity.  That's really a great song, and
> perfect for that venue.  You couldn't help but want to sing along, and by
> the end the chorus was indelibly written into the memory of everybody
> there, even those who didn't know just who this odd Englishman was.  The
> table next to us went nuts when he hit the "All of the groovers come from
> Vancouver" line (well, not the table, the people around it); unfortunate
> that the groover from Vancouver Island had left that morning.

For a while I was kicking myself that I wasn't there that evening, but
then it occurred to me: Two Bells is a bar! You were even IDed! I might
even have prevented you guys from going. How cruel life is. Maybe Bayard
will send me the recording on the 'shoot b-side...

You know, I'll bet Robyn Hitchcock has never been to Vancouver Island.
Maybe I should write him. I'm sure I could get an audience of at least
five of us together.

Daniel Saunders
"And the banks, at a profit, sell roads maps to the soul
To the old folks home, and the college..." - Bob Dylan
"Oh, the times, they are a changin'." - Bank of Montreal

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 17:42:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carole Reichstein <carole@technical.powells.com>
Subject: Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale

...only FIVE, you say? Pshaw. How about fifty? A hundred? Five hundred,
even, on a good day? 

This brings up an interesting thread...how much money/prawns/flan would a
Feg have to pay Robyn for a personal concert, like for a birthday or just
a big party? I wonder if anyone has ever approached Robyn's management
about this sort of thing. Admittedly, this brings up sitcom memories
of Marcia Brady promising her high school that Davy Jones (or was it Desi
Arnez) would play at the prom. Well, Desi Arnez kissed her on the cheek
once, tee-hee.

Vancouver Island. Doesn't Nick Bantock, author of the famed "Griffin &
Sabine" book trilogy, live nearby? I read that he and his family live
"off" of Vancouver island. An island off of an island--how decadent!

It sounds like a lovely place. Why, if you offer to put Robyn up at the
nicest hotel/inn in town, I'm sure he'd think about it. One more reason
for Fegs to play the lottery. Facetiously, of course. 


> "And the banks, at a profit, sell roads maps to the soul
> To the old folks home, and the college..." - Bob Dylan
> "Oh, the times, they are a changin'." - Bank of Montreal
> 

When I saw Billy Bragg w/Robyn last November, Billy griped about watching
Canadian television & hearing that Bob Dylan tune for a bank commercial.
However, he did enjoy watching Winnie the Pooh on Canadian TV much more
than following the US Presidential election.

- --Carole

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 12:50:10 +1200 (NZST)
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: Re: mucus and snog-writhing

I wrote:

>Knowing how many of you are Kinks fans (hello, the deightful Ms Dodge...),
>I'd like to know how youse Davies fans regard the likes of Madness and the
>Jam, two bands that became bigly popular in Britain during the late 70s
>and 80s through their Kink-iness.

and lots of people jumped up and down. If it wasn't for Susan's timely
comments, I'd have thought I was going a little strange... OK blame it on
it being 2am when I wrote it, but I meant to say that both had the Kinks as
a major influence, the Jam more so than Madness. In the case of Madness,
several of their songs do, to me at least, have a faint hint of the Kinks -
"Shut Up", "It must be love", "Bed and Breakfast man", "Cardiac Arrest",
"Yesterday's Men", and "Our house", for instance. Sure, they're basically
ska, with that bouncy syncopation you'd expect from ska, but there's a
certain Kink-y je-ne-particularly-want-to-sais-quoi about them.

With the Jam, the link is much stronger - let's face it, they covered
Curly, erm, David Watts, to start with. And although the Who were obviously
their biggest influence, and they had a fixation on the riff from "Taxman",
I can definitely hear the Kinks in "All Around the World", "A-bomb in
Wardour Street", "Strange Town", "Smithers-Jones", "That's Entertainment",
"Mr Clean", "English Rose", "Butterfly Collector" (which Weller admitted
was a tribute to the Kinks' "Shangri-La"), "Saturday's Kids", "Liza
Radley", "Man in the Corner Shop", "Tales from the Riverbank"... One
particularly Kinks-like motif in them, which Susan picked up, was that many
of them are 'eye of god' views of ordinary people going through their
ordinary lives (another song that I particularly like that shares the same
Kink-ness is XTC's "Smalltown")

Notably, the liner notes from the Jam greatest hits compilation CD "The Jam
Collection" frequently cites the man-god that is Davies. Not that liner
notes mean much, but...

James

 James Dignan___________________________________               You talk to me
 Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University               As if from a distance
 ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street               And I reply. . . . . . . . . .
 Dunedin, New Zealand               with impressions chosen from another time
 steam megaphone (03) 455-7807               (Brian Eno - "By this River")

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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 12:51:03 +1200 (NZST)
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: precious little of anything, really

From: Capuchin <capuchin@teleport.com>

>I stopped reading Quailspill quite a while ago, but I don't ever remember
>being mentioned, so I can't say much on this account. I guess your three
>posts are significant whilst mine simply take space. <

Aye, he did that. And I, in my quest for truth, pointed out YOUR real
identity recently, once I realised that Capuchin came from the Italian for
"The Hooded One"!

>Did anyone REPLY to your posts? Nobody ever replies to my posts. Sometimes
>I think folks are just being polite by not telling me to go away.
>Personally, I'd say it's more impolite to endure someone you loathe

to quote Marvin: "I can go and stick my head in a bucket of water if you like"

feggies sweetheart MS Dodge with a D did speak:
>Well it's been done to death but just for the record I meant Entwhistle as
>the other virtuoso. I don't consider Townshend a virtuoso -player-, I do
>consider him a brilliant songwriter but I don't consider songwriting
>something you can do in a virtuosic manner. Correct me if I'm
>misunderstanding the word, I know someone will if I did :).

that makes sense. Then again, I think a lot of the misunderstanding has
been the old fallback one, that people have slightly different
interpretations of the same word. If someone is proficient but not flashy,
are they a virtuoso?

she also a dit:
>Since I have a nasty cold and I'm full up to the gills on Benadryl, I can
>always blame THAT.

ah good. If you have gills, you can't be a quail! You must be the REAL Susan!

Eb wrote:
>Yes, anagrams can be fun....

>Merry, cool, boiled
>Dry mobile cooler
>O my! old relic bore

Ah, the truth at last! Stand up Eb, or should I say, Eric Bolldoomery! No?
Ed Molicoolberry? erm, Elmer Bicolor-Yod?

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Daniel Saunders" <dsaunder@islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: yet another Bumbershoot tale

> Vancouver Island. Doesn't Nick Bantock, author of the famed "Griffin &
> Sabine" book trilogy, live nearby? I read that he and his family live
> "off" of Vancouver island. An island off of an island--how decadent!

Saltspring Island, maybe? A bohemian place indeed. Robert Bateman lives
there, along with other luminaries (his son went to my school). I think
Mort Ranset (sic?) lives there, the director of Muriel's Wedding (highly
recommended). And Atom Egoyan's dad lives in Victoria; he's actually a
friend of the family. So there!

> It sounds like a lovely place. Why, if you offer to put Robyn up at the
> nicest hotel/inn in town, I'm sure he'd think about it. One more reason
> for Fegs to play the lottery. Facetiously, of course. 

We have some friends who own a lovely bed and breakfast... It's worth a
try.

> > "And the banks, at a profit, sell roads maps to the soul
> > To the old folks home, and the college..." - Bob Dylan
> > "Oh, the times, they are a changin'." - Bank of Montreal
> > 
> When I saw Billy Bragg w/Robyn last November, Billy griped about watching
> Canadian television & hearing that Bob Dylan tune for a bank commercial.
> However, he did enjoy watching Winnie the Pooh on Canadian TV much more
> than following the US Presidential election.

Something hilarious: On Big Life, a terrific pop culture program on the
CBC news network, they played a clip of a Billy Bragg concert where he
went "I'd like to steal this song back from the Bank of Montreal." and
played The Times They are 'a changin'. Guess what saccarine corporate
commercial they played *immediately* after the clip? :) You just can't
plan that sort of thing. Gee, I guess you guys aren't subject to all those
cringe-making MBanx commercials. Consider yourselves truly blessed.

Daniel Saunders
"Must be the approach of lightspeed I see / Ends before the starts
 What it's like in prison, / And the good and bad reasons for laws
 The excuses, then the outcomes, then the cause." - The Loud Family

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