From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V6 #17 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 27 1997 Volume 06 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Who's a virtuoso?(.02% RH content) [Ner ] [none] [] The return of the Sacred Crab [Natalie Jacobs ] R.I.P. The Egyptians [mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.)] Various ramblings... [mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.)] Re: other scum i(erm... music) [M R Godwin ] re: R.I.P. The Egyptians ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: BSDR [Andrew Crislip ] "Brenda" Video For Sale ["Tery DiSandro" ] vlrc (very little robyn content) [dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: Who's a virtuoso?(.02% RH content) Eb wrote: > I would definitely call Entwistle a virtuoso. I definitely would NOT call > Townshend one. He does the job, but songwriting is where he's the real > standout. His guitar parts often come off a bit too "written" to me, if you > know what I mean. I agree that Entwistle is definitely a virtuoso along with Moon. Pete Townsend? Some days I think he is a viruoso and somedays I just think of him as a great guitar player for the music he plays. I mean The Who would not have been the same band if Townsend didn't play the way he did. Maybe a virtuoso - maybe not - I guess it depends on my mood. - -Ner ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 08:46:39 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: The return of the Sacred Crab Susan chastised (re. Invisible Hits), >Yes, you should. Unlistenable? I love that album. The whole thing is >wonderful. My particular favorite is "Blues in the Dark", especially that >verse that starts "Come inside, my little sparrow....". Yummy. Maybe I need to listen to it more. I don't even remember a song by that name being on the album... >Mercury retrograde is over and so is Freddy Mercury, therefore neither of >you have any excuse whatsoever. All right, then, a bison ate my homework. Is that a good excuse? :) I forgot to mention that the Sacred Crab also commanded me to buy "I Often Dream of Trains" - a series of great songs apparently plucked from ten different sources, put in a bag, shaken up, and pulled out at random. I love "Autumn is Your Last Chance" and "Furry Green Atom Bowl," but I'm not sure if I want to hear them on an album together. The jury is still out on "Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus." My New Zealand colleague James Dignan recommended Martin Newell's "The Greatest Living Englishman," and I have to second that. It's pretty derivative (my sister, after hearing the opening track, protested that he ought to be paying the Beatles royalties), but unlike some derivative artists (e.g. those guys from Manchester with the big eyebrows), he manages to integrate his influences and turn them into something uniquely his own. He's also a great performer and public speaker - his imitation of Andy Partridge singing "Firestarter" in the style of a 1930's lounge singer has to be heard to be believed. Re. Andy Metcalfe, it was his bass-playing that was one of the main factors in my becoming a Robyn fan. The first Robyn album I bought was "Queen Elvis" - I heard "Knife" and was immediately smitten. I like the fact that his style is immediately distinctive and unmistakeable - even to a non-musician like myself - without being obtrusive. Along with Colin Moulding and Bruce Thomas, he's probably my favorite bassist. So there. :p n. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:35:03 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: R.I.P. The Egyptians Hey all, Haven't posted much lately, though I've been talking to a lot of you separately and doing lots of trades. Here's a few scattered thoughts. The Egyptians live were truly stunning. Over the last few months I've been privileged to hear various gigs on tape (not always the greatest of quality, mind you), especially a slew from the 92/93 tours. After hearing so much solo Robyn of late, its exhilarating to hear the full band and their often drastically different takes on old and new classics. For example, I'm currently listening to the 4/28/93 Warfield, S.F. show and was blown over giggling at their incredible take on Wafflehead. And the band version of Queen Elvis was chilling. God, those guys were good! And the more I hear live, the more apparent it becomes that they really were never able to hit a true stride on record. I'm talking 90's Egyptians here. There was just so much more to the live shows, so much more...flexibility? looseness? fun? An era to be sorely missed. My fantasy? Just as Throbbing Gristle has seemed over the past decade to release live recording archives on CD like once a month (a bit of an exaggeration, but you know), I'd love to see a world where masters of old Egyptians shows could slink out into the marketplace on a timely basis to be snagged by fans and fegs alike. Of course it'll never happen, but just imagine what a different world it might be... Mike Runion ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:49:35 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Various ramblings... Hey all, On the agenda... 1. There've been several new fegs added to the fegmaps. I think we're up around 83 or so at present. 2. I should have at least one new cone up in the VCM in the next week or so. Keep your eyes peeled back wide so tiny flies can swarm in. (What?) 3. Anyone who has been mesmerized by the Incredible Spinning Rotomark in recent weeks sure doesn't want to miss "Thursday's Lunch": http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark/robyn/fegLUNCH_Fun.html Don't be fooled though by the forced candidness of the shot. I detect a certain glassy and hypnotic quailness in their eyes. Beware, could their crushed velvet robes be just out of frame? 4. Song question: At the 4/28/93 Warfield, San Fransisco gig, Robyn and the boys did a song titled something like "I'm Not The Kind Of Guy" or "The Kind Of Guy" or something. Might anyone know if this is a cover, or just another in a long line of hastily-penned throwaway songs. It is performed quite "fully", so it doesn't really sound like a work-in-progress or anything. (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, yeah...uh huh huh huuuouh, ah-wo-oh-oh-oh-owo! Woh! And that's enough for me.) - Fleetwood Mac Mike Runion ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:14:02 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: other scum i(erm... music) On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, James Dignan wrote: > I'd like to know how youse Davies fans regard the likes of Madness and the > Jam, two bands that became bigly popular in Britain during the late 70s and > 80s through their Kink-iness. Madness are a good band, better than their Specials/Bad Manners type image would suggest. I think the piano player was the guy that wrote all those nice tunes like 'House of Fun' and 'Our House'. They sound like a Two-Tone band rather than a Kinks band to me, though I suspect they weren't on Two-Tone. I would have thought that the Jam were aping the Who rather than the Kinks, except on that track which is 'Taxman' under another name. [snip... snippety ... snip] > Martin Newall... 's more than vaguely Robynesque, although perhaps > without the surrealistic whimsy, Sounds a bit like Oscar Wilde without the jokes, James! Cheers - - paleo-Mike (no genetic relation to h. sapiens sapiens) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:40:18 -0400 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: re: R.I.P. The Egyptians Mike Runion shared his fantasy with us: >My fantasy? Just as Throbbing Gristle has seemed over the past decade to >release live recording archives on CD like once a month (a bit of an >exaggeration, but you know), I'd love to see a world where masters of old >Egyptians shows could slink out into the marketplace on a timely basis to >be snagged by fans and fegs alike. Of course it'll never happen, but >just imagine what a different world it might be... Well, I've been imagining that world for a while. I'd love to have a suitcase of live Robyn shows, like Throbbing Gristle did, replete with some video and maybe a book of stories and paintings, too. But what I would really like is gold Ultradisc versions of some of his albums. I would love to _Underwater Moonlight_ and _I Often Dream of Trains_ cleaned up and remastered in 20-bit digital and lovingly transferred to gold CDs. Sure, they weren't recorded on state-of-the-art equipment, but I'd like to hear every single nuance and detail squeezed out of those recordings (like if you listen carefully to "Furry Green Atom Bowl" in the Rhino issue of IODOT you can hear Robyn tapping -- that's the sort of stuff I want to hear). I also think they could be remastered to image a little better, and never having seen the Soft Boys live, I want to be able to better hear the three-dimensional soundstage of their recordings, which is sorely lacking in the current CDs. Considering what they're doing with transferring vinyl to CDs lately (has anybody else here heard the CD reissues of You've Got Foetus On Your Breath's first two albums, Deaf and Ache? They were mastered from vinyl and sound *amazing*) I can't help but think they could do better. But it'll never happen, sadly, because the number sold wouldn't justify the cost to the record labels. Oh well. Oh, regarding the other threads: I love the Meat Puppets, Pete Townshend *is* a virtuoso (but in the studio and with a pen, but not on stage), and, um, I like both PI and Respect. __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Crislip Subject: Re: BSDR Hey, new to the list. Been a feg for ten years and counting and have just been listening in for the past month. I'm a digester, so please excuse this if it is irrelevant now. I also hate to get sucked into this sort of debate, but I have to agree that BSDR is among Robyn's finest work; and I think it is quite underappreciated. My first RH albums were (predictably) GOF and QE. These are good, with highs and lows, but it's BSDR that made me a feg and began my quick spiraling descent into the world of Robyn. Always found Acid Bird and all of the first side impeccable. Perhaps, I am alone in this, but I've always found the Lizard to be one of my favorites, one lick, comes from nowhere, goes nowhere, but just has an ethereal quality unlike much else of Robyn's (cept IODOT). Nuff said. But as far as the bonus tracks go, the demo of It was the Night on BSDR is IMHO 10 times better than the one on GD. The LP version of The Man Who ... with the horns beats out the CD version, though. Andrew New Haven, CT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:00:43 +0000 From: "Tery DiSandro" Subject: "Brenda" Video For Sale I am selling my opened copy of the A&M 1989 Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes video. Includes videos from I Often Dream Of Trains thru Queen Elvis. The box itself has a little wear on it, but the video quality is excellent. It's been out of print for a few years... I'm asking US $15 pp. E-mail me to reserve! Thanks - - Tery mailto:tdisandro@newwavetech.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:23:06 -0700 (PDT) From: ".chris" Subject: Re: other scum i(erm... music) > > I would have thought that the Jam were aping the Who rather than the > Kinks, except on that track which is 'Taxman' under another name. My take would be the Jam was aping the Small Faces aping the Beatles. Over, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:16:58 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: vlrc (very little robyn content) fegs, also sprach jeannine: >I ran across one of those kiosks of free postcards at a video rental >place here in Seattle, and lo and behold one caught my eye. which reminds me: i picked up about 50 "robyn in here" postcards. anyone want one? send me an address. maybe if i'm feeling sadistic, i'll put a jpeg of it up on the web site. the quail quacketh: >I apologize for his antics, and promise to disband him as >soon as I am sure this really *is* the true Feglist again, and not just >my imaginary Woj's very clever creation. i guess you'll just have to take it on faith, my fine feathered friend. i mean, how can you ever really be *sure*? muhahahaha! (once the fegfoto page is up and running, you will be able to see that my natural skin tone *is* rather pasty....) >By the way, because I am not afraid to disseminate the >truth, SMOE stands for "Standardized Measure of Ornithological Entropy." even *if* you were correct, you know, i would never reveal that fact. (of course, you could just buy the t-shirt....) also sprach scott: >I was really hooked on his playing the first time I heard OLPOE. damn, but that acronym really cracks me up. almost as good as iodot. also sprach natalie: >I guess I should be drawn and quartered or something, because, with a few >exceptions, I found "Invisible Hits" virtually unlistenable. if i were you, i wouldn't be visiting the sacred crab again anytime soon. as far as soft boys records go, i don't particularly like for _underwater moonlight_ that much at all. it's not bad, but i much prefer the abrasiveness and, dare i say it, musical and lyrical cleverness of _a can of bees_ and _invisible hits_. moonlight is just too smooth for my tastes. finally, here are some fegmaniax anagrams, courtesy of the main sanitary nag . the first is probably the best. 1.Fig axe man 2.Mix age fan 3.Fix age man 4.Fin age max 5.Mine fag ax 6.Mien fag ax 7.Mean fig ax 8.Mane fig ax 9.Game fix an 10.Game fin ax 11.Fame gin ax 12.Fain gem ax 13.Exam fag in 14.Exam nag if 15.Exam fig an 16.Amen fig ax 17.Name fig ax 18.Feign am ax 19.Axing fame 20.Manage fix woj n.p. wfmu, where a guitar is being destroyed on-air in an effort to get people to pledge... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:52:29 -0500 From: nicastr@IDT.NET (Ben) Subject: Re: other scum i(erm... music) >> >> I would have thought that the Jam were aping the Who rather than the >> Kinks, except on that track which is 'Taxman' under another name. > >My take would be the Jam was aping the Small Faces aping the Beatles. > >Over, >.chris Seaking of The Jam I saw Paul Weller Thursday night in DC and it was a great show, so I would recommend checking him out if he comes to your town! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V6 #17 ******************************