From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #201 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 201 Monday August 18 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Say anything... Re: Say anything... Fwd: Say anything... Sorry for the intrusion... Me, really. Delete if you hate me. (NYC & Bumbershooting) test "my precious taco bell sauce" Re: test RE: Robyn at Sea Re: "my precious taco bell sauce" A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa Re: A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa Re: A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa Crystal Branches ------------------------------ From: "Glen Uber" Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:11:11 -0800 Subject: Say anything... fegs, is the list down, or is it just quiet around here? Curious, --g "We are all citizens of one world, we are all of one blood. To hate a man because he was born in another country, because he speaks a different language, or because he takes a different view on this subject or that, is a great folly. Desist, I implore you, for we are all equally human.... Let us have but one end in view: The welfare of humanity." --Johann Amos Comenius __________________________________________________ Glen Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Say anything... Date: Fri, 15 Aug 97 17:07:28 -0700 From: Tom Clark "The Warm Long Heat Of Love" On 8/15/97 5:11 PM, Glen Uber wrote: >is the list down, or is it just quiet around here? shhhh. don't type too loudly, they might hear us. Now we talk trash... ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: Say anything... In a message dated 97-08-15 19:25:15 EDT, glen@metro.net writes: << is the list down, or is it just quiet around here? >> Perhaps it's my cue to rejoin the world of Feg and start talking again. Blinking On And Off (but mostly off), Jay H. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: griffith Subject: Sorry for the intrusion... Sorry to burst in and intrerrupt, but I am trying to find Peter. He is the one who was at the Robyn shows at The Roxy & Largo. Please contact me. Thanks. griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 14:12:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Me, really. Delete if you hate me. (NYC & Bumbershooting) My plans were all changed and strange. I fly to NYC tomorrow morning. Does anyone know anything particularly cool for Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights/evenings? Yeah, I know... it's a long shot. What with New York City being so small and dull. So... as far as Bumbershoot goes, do we have a plan? I'm heading up after work on Friday. I don't know yet whether I'm bumming a ride (are you driving through Portland?), flying, railing or bussing. Either way, I'll be in the Emerald City by 10pm or so. I also don't know where I'm staying yet (again?), so any help is good help. So are we getting together after the show? Saturday night? Friday night? I have no idea how long I'm staying in town, either. I guess it depends on what's going on with fegkids. I guess this is a very self-centered posting. Jeme. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:13:50 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: test with your eyes, so dark and empty, looking straight through me. wasn't the annual Robyn & Fan special outing yesterday?? what is up with the list? i've never seen it like this. well, not in awhile at least. -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:lobstie@e-z.net web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Force is the weapon of the weak." -Ammon Hennessey \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ From: "Eddie Tews" Subject: "my precious taco bell sauce" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:32:42 PDT >I guess this is a very self-centered posting. the best kind there are. who's the chap that keeps pushing minidisc? someone in Frisco, right? i'd love to be able to record on a disc, no doubt about it. but 20 bucks a pop for a disc that can hold 60 minutes of music and can only be written onto once...well, it doesn't exactly make me tremble with an...tici...pation. on the other hand, neither have i any real desire to invest in a whole nother delivery system, given the concomitant hardware purchases that would require. i know minidisc comes in its own case. but inside, is it just like a, um, miniature cd? what i guess i'm asking is, could a standard cd player read a minidisc if you could get the damn thing in the tray? if so, i'd love to see an adapter of some sort. this would be analagous to those little plastic whirligigs we used to buy by the gross and snap into our 45's so we could play singles on our rekkid players. is something like this conceivable? you know what? i could even go for a boombox that had am/fm, cassette, cd, and minidisc. yeah. that would be fun. are you allowed to bootleg movies? audio only, i mean. anyway, i taped Schizopolis the other night. anyone wants a copy, you know which rock to look under. it turned out pretty good. shit howdy! it's robyn content: i don't know if this will be of interest to anyone. but, one time a bunch of us hooligans made the road trip to la and back. and i of course made a robyn mix tape for the trip. everyone seemed to like it fine. after it listening to it once, somebody asked what that song was about the guys in the bathtub. i said, "Ted, Woody, and Junior." pretty much what you'd expect me to say. the guy next to me, i.e. the driver, laughed that laugh, you know the one, the one that says, "how in the hell did i end up in the same car with this total moron," and said aloud, "it's Ted, Woody, and *Julia*." i remained silent for a while, and finally replied, "you're trying to correct *me* on the name of a robyn hitchcock song?" he made some sort of demeaning remark. and after we went back and forth for a while, we decided to wager on it. the bottom line is, i kind of wish it actually were called Ted, Woody, and Julia. maybe i just need to get out more often. but does it seem to anyone else like robyn spends an inordinate amount of time tuning guitars, fitting harmonicas, worrying about monitors, calling for delay and reverb, etc.? i don't have a problem with it. but i've always thought it was pretty interesting. here's an idea that should be for the boxed set, but, i don't want to wait that long. how about a tape that compiles all of the best versions of robyn covering other peoples' songs? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 16:36:37 -0400 (EDT) From: the woj of noise Subject: Re: test also sprach John Barrington Jones : >what is up with the list? i've never seen it like this. you weren't around during the deepest, darkest days when feg was first founded then, were you? back then, we were lucky to get a 10k digest out every week. it's just quiet -- august is a good time to vacation and the kiddies are just starting to think about school again. revel in the silence! (it's always spetember....) some fegs may remember that jill sobule opened for robyn in the spring of 1995. well, jill concluded three nights at the knitting factory last evening; i only managed to make it to the last one and it was a very good show. about half and half solo acoustic and with the full band. i half expected erstwhile gary assa (or the fegdudes mitch and ken) to join her on stage for "girl in the affair", but it was not to be. instead, some random woman joined her, singing steve earle's part on "love in never equal" (from jill's most recent, _happy town_). it was a good show and, though the new knitting factory is less intimate than the old space, the vibe from the crowd strongly reminded me of steve kilbey's 1990 solo shows: a small, enthusiastic and dedicated kernal of knowledgable and friendly fans. (robyn's shows in march lacked that, for some reason.) woj ------------------------------ From: Mat Wood Subject: RE: Robyn at Sea Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:36:56 +0100 wasn't the annual Robyn & Fan special outing yesterday?? what is up with the list? i've never seen it like this. well, not in awhile at least. // End lurk. Yes it was, the boat left Lymington at 5:00 in glorious sunshine. There were about 80 of us on board including Robyn and his various friends/relatives. It was a small two level tour boat. Robyn played on the lower deck whilst we travelled to Yarmouth on the Isle of Wight. There we disembarked to the old deserted Railway station where we all sat on the platform whilst Robyn stood and played where the tracks used to be. After this we all headed back through Yarmouth in a large group. Guess what? Theres only some sort of Regatta/Parade in Yarmouth, and us fegs end up marching our way back to the pier just a few hundred yards ahead of the main parade to the extreme delight/bemusement of the onlooking crowd. Finally as the sun set, we got back on the boat and Robyn played a final set at the top of the steps between the levels. All in all, an very good day indeed. Robyn appeared to be fairly happy and chatted to everybody. I noticed there were a couple of people (u know who u are) recording the 'show' (hence sarcasm from Robyn at one point) so I've not bothered trying to piece together a set list. I'll post a rough version if the bootleggers fail us. Mat //Begin lurk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 15:09:18 -0800 From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: "my precious taco bell sauce" >here's an idea that should be for the boxed set, but, i don't want to >wait that long. how about a tape that compiles all of the best versions >of robyn covering other peoples' songs? Actually, being a gen-exer (albeit a bit older one), I would love to see a compilation of the original versions of some of these songs. Most of these songs Robyn covers I have never heard the original versions of. I would love to have a tape with: Visions of Johanna, I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine, Went to See the Gypsy, Wind Cries Mary, I'm Set Free, Some Kinds of Love, Arnold Layne, Gigolo Aunt, Waterloo Sunset, Baby You're A Rich Man, Mystery Train, etc. etc. And that Nightfall song by INcredible String Band, etc. etc. etc. -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:lobstie@e-z.net web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Force is the weapon of the weak." -Ammon Hennessey \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Sun, 17 Aug 97 23:28:58 EDT Subject: Since things are a little slow, maybe y'all don't mind an off-topic spew. Eddie sez: > > who's the chap that keeps pushing minidisc? someone in Frisco, right? > i'd love to be able to record on a disc, no doubt about it. but 20 > bucks a pop for a disc that can hold 60 minutes of music and can only be > written onto once...well, it doesn't exactly make me tremble with > an...tici...pation. Since you're on the list, it's likely you've got a computer, or at least access to a computer. A $450 or so investment gets you a CD recorder. Many of them can read and write Red Book audio (the CD standard). You can make wav files of your favourite material, set up your own mix and burn it on a CD. The price of the hardware (if you have a computer) is in the ballpark with the minidisk, but there's no compression, and with blanks going for $5 Canadian here ($4 US) who cares if they're not re-recordable. You can take this sort of CD and play it in any standard CD player. The one I bought for work was $1800 US last fall, and the blanks were $20 Canadian each. The change in price since then has made this format a serious consideration. I still can't affort to convert my whole LP collection, but I'm thinking hard about a few rare ones. Doing this means you need good analogue-digital conversion, which means more hardware. IMHO, the minidisk just doesn't cut it. It's pricey, and maybe that inaudible degradation adds up over generations of copies. And isn't there an anti-copy code in commercial MDs that lets you make only first generation copies? Forget about reading them on a standard CD/ CDROM player; the current generation of full sized erasable CDs are not readable on CDROM or audio CD players. I'd guess Minidisk uses the same technology. They were selling minidisk portables here last fall for $850 Canadian. I can't imagine shelling out that kind of money, then strapping your purchase to your waist for a nice stroll downtown. It'd be great for taping live shows, but imagine the heart attack you'd have if an unfriendly roadie stomps your machine! DAT's great, but oxide wears out. -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:07:33 +0000 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa >I saw _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ yesterday in its entirety for the >first time and noted with interest that one of the women of Castle Anthrax >is named Zoot. Brought to mind the _Can of Bees_ liner notes. "Every baby >needs a name, even if it's only Zoot." add this to the fish sketch ref in >"certainly clickot". Zoot was also the saxophone playing muppet in Dr Teeth's Electric Mayhem. There are other rock music links with zoot: Zappa's "Zoot Allures", Zoot Money, and the Who's first single, "Zoot Suit" (released as by the High Numbers and named after a mid-60s clothing fashion). Dolph waxed surreal: >Anyway, I have a question. Does anyone know the current where It's the Gulf Stream. James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 23:21:11 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa "Dig Me" Dignan wrote: >Zoot was also the saxophone playing muppet in Dr Teeth's Electric Mayhem. >There are other rock music links with zoot: Zappa's "Zoot Allures", Zoot >Money, and the Who's first single, "Zoot Suit" (released as by the High >Numbers and named after a mid-60s clothing fashion). I probably won't be the only one to ask, "How could you dare forget Captain Beefheart sideman Zoot Horn Rollo?" :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:24:04 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: A zed, two noughts, and a cuppa On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > I probably won't be the only one to ask, "How could you dare forget Captain > Beefheart sideman Zoot Horn Rollo?" :) Good point! There's an interview with ZHR (aka Bill Harkleroad) at: http://pages.prodigy.com/FNJD74A/mallard5.htm May I remind UK-based fegs that John Peel is doing a TV show about Captain Beefheart tomorrow (Tuesday, BBC2, 11.15 pm). (thinks: only 31 years since I first heard the Captain on Peel's Radio London show...) - hssmrg PS The nautical excursion was a great success - sunny, warm and amiable. 'Cheese Alarm' is excellent. But the bloke I thought must be Nigel Jarman turned out to be someone else... ------------------------------ From: "U. R. Wotyuiz" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 13:04:06 -0700 Subject: Crystal Branches Eddie Tews' hummus covered fingers typed: > by the way, i looked at crystal branches when you first mentioned > it, and i was going to look at it again, but i was too lazy to go > back and find the address in the archives. you oughta have it in > your sig. For anyone else interested in taking a look at this "Work In Progress," point your browsers to: I'm not as quick a typist as some of of you, so putting a page like this together is a slow, painful process. I have lots of stuff already typed up in text format. I just need to get around to adding HTML code and uploading it to my server. I'm thinking of changing the name to something that's more in line with the theme of the page. Any ideas, anyone??? Anyone??? I'm also still interested in hearing from you with ideas regarding format, content, colours, pix, multimedia mumbo jumbo, etc. E me with yer idears... feggingly, --g "[Politicians] are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river." --Nikita Khrushchev, August 21, 1963 __________________________________________________ Glen Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen __________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .