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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- obserlutions Re: Feg Anton (NR) Re: obserlutions Re: obserlutions Re: Feg Anton (NR) Re: BALFFEP - Preliminary Draft Report Re: Denis Denys Re: BALFFEP - Preliminary Draft Report Re: obserlutions Brought to you by the Letter Q Open The Door, Somebody Re: obserlutions RE: Open The Door, Somebody figures... and a question sorry again AB, LF, BA/SA Fegs, too long to actually read in the nineties... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: obserlutions > >Andy Kershaw : Monday 20.40 - > > 22.30pm. > > IN SESSION - BLACK UMFOLOSI > > 04.08.97 > > > > Mouse & The Traps - "A Public Execution" (Big Beat Records) > > I think Kershaw said that this was from a new compilation CD of Mouse & The > Traps, so it should be possible to find (I think Terry was asking about it). > A mid-60s recording of a band sounding exactly like mid-60s Dylan. so is this who RH is talking about when he talks about his friend Mouse in "open the door, homer"? And why does he say richard instead of homer-- this was all explained before, but i'm at a loss. > > Robyn Hitchcock - "Tell Me" (Warner Brothers Records) I'm pretty sure the song they did at viva sea-tac 2 was "tell me mama" as well. at VST 1 it was "odds and ends" and possibly one more dylan song. There's a commercial on TV here for a nearby theme park and a roller coaster called "The Outer Limits: Flight of Fear". It begins: "The Lungs Compress..." and pauses; in that pause my mind fills in, every single time: "....in icy slush." of course. almost like the first roller coaster based on a song! (or is it "limbs"? limbs, lungs, what's the difference.) I saw _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ yesterday in its entirety for the first time and noted with interest that one of the women of Castle Anthrax is named Zoot. Brought to mind the _Can of Bees_ liner notes. "Every baby needs a name, even if it's only Zoot." add this to the fish sketch ref in "certainly clickot". =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:05:15 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth CC: Della & Steve Schiavo , Sydney Subject: Re: Feg Anton (NR) On Mon, 11 Aug 97 21:24 Steve Schiavo pointed out: > I think Anton is still off-line. I gathered that Anton is *indirectly* on line, via the services of his charming significantotherperson (who's name I temporarily forget, but which I will probably remember as soon as I hit SEND..*) -- whom we were also lucky enough to meet at the Hotel Utah show. I think Sydney has her email id if you need to contact them. > You can get "The Horse's Tongue" and "Waterbungs and Beetles" from him > at: > > Idiot Records > P.O. Box 163857 > Sacramento, CA 95816 ...and indeed you should! ~N * Ask anyone. I have a legendary memory for ...er ...erm ...oh yes, names! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:14:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: obserlutions >so is this who RH is talking about when he talks about his friend Mouse in >"open the door, homer"? And why does he say richard instead of homer-- >this was all explained before, but i'm at a loss. Bob Dylan wrote "Open the Door, Homer." Also check out Thunderclap Newman's great cover of that song. But long before that, there was a old jazz-blues standard called "Open the Door, Richard." My father actually sort of knew the guy who wrote that one. I think they may have been in the military together. Also, this guy (named something like Jack McVee) played clarinet in a "street group" in Disneyland's New Orleans Square for years and years.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:42:27 -0500 (CDT) From: amadain Subject: Re: obserlutions On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > great cover of that song. But long before that, there was a old jazz-blues > standard called "Open the Door, Richard." It's more of a comedy routine-type thing, but yeah. Get Louis Jordan's version. It's hysterical. Also Pigmeat Markham's is brilliant. Nearly everyone who was a prominent black showbiz figure in the early 40s tried their hand at it, it was sort of a black vaudeville circuit staple. > My father actually sort of knew > the guy who wrote that one. I never thought anyone actually wrote it. It just seemed to be one of those things that was always around, that changed and varied with each performer. Still I suppose the original idea had to come from somewhere. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 03:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Feg Anton (NR) Nick writes: << I gathered that Anton is *indirectly* on line, via the services of his charming significantotherperson (who's name I temporarily forget, but which I will probably remember as soon as I hit SEND..*) -- whom we were also lucky enough to meet at the Hotel Utah show. I think Sydney has her email id if you need to contact them. >> Indeed I do. But I do believe they're subscribed to the digest. Excuse me while I confirm... HEY ANTON...YOU THERE?! ;) P.S. Hi Janet. :) Sydney ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 03:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BALFFEP - Preliminary Draft Report The Distinguished Sir Nick of Winkworth writes: << The team was small. It was a tough job ...but we were up to it! Having assembled the "core team" at a local eatery, and with pencils duly sharpened, your intrepid Fegs headed bravely for the Hotel Utah.>> Did Nick mention how relieved we were to have a quorum? I'm sure I read in the Feg Handbook that it takes at least three fegs to adequately assess a show. And little did we know that in the unlikely event that Nick, Mark, or Sydney get hit by a bus on the way to the Hotel Utah, we had the Misplaced Joan of Arc there to fill out the panel. (Great to meet you, BTW!) << "The Utah" is basically just a small bar in San Francisco.>> Correction. The Utah is a *shoebox* in San Francisco. But word is that many fine bands play there. I, for one, was pleased to "discover" it for myself. <> Anton sang his heart out. Belted with passion, as it were, which is what I remember most from Sacramento. I was only familiar with two of the songs from the setlist (from "Waterbugs & Beetles"), but I'm happy to say I left with "The Horse's Tongue". Not that the music isn't great, but what I like most about Anton's songs are the lyrics....clever storytelling (MTV Song), spirited and sweet (Sarah & Zoe), down and dirty (Bible Beater). I'll be scoutin' for local gigs, for sure. << Finally the Loud Family took the stage......and a few nice twisted lyrics didn't hurt either.>> I really liked the Loud Family, but would've been happy to have been able to hear a few more of those "really-important-in-my-book" twisted lyrics. It would have upped the enjoyment factor, I think, if I had been more familiar with the songs. That said, the music (and lyrics I *did* hear) was *really* good--good balance, nice vocal harmonies, with lots of funky timing and weirdo chord changes that my musician-friends like. :) And they were having *fun* which made it that much better! I'll bet Scott's got a great sense of humor... << Most impressive (even to our token non-musician)....>> Now who could that be? ;) <<...was the new/old drummer, Gil Ray, ...... easily the best musician on the stage >> It was clear that the rest of the Loud Family felt this way too... The bassist and keyboard player bowed "slave-style" to him as he was introduced! << All in all a good time was had by all and The Loud Family received the Bay Area Feg stamp of approval. You are now all officially authorized to go see this band if they come your way.>> Indeed. But may I change that to Bay Area/Sacramento Feg stamp of approval? :) Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:11:05 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Denis Denys On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > And personally, the whole "Dennis" concept always make me think of Monty > Python's famous Dennis Moore sketch. "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding > through the night/Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, dum dum dum dum dum/He steals > from the rich, and dum dum dum poor...Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, dum dum > dum...." I suspect that you don't know that this is a parody of the theme song from a 50s 'Robin Hood' TV series: 'Robin Hood Robin Hood riding through the glen Robin Hood Robin Hood with his band of men Feared by the bad, loved by the good Robin Hood Robin Hood Robin Hood' and there you have the Dennis-Robyn (well, Robin) connection! It was a funny show, too. Richard Greene as RH (that's RH, not RH), Alexander Gauge as Friar Tuck, the late great Paul Eddington as Will Scarlett, the late less-great Alan Wheatley as the Sheriff of Nottingham... I could go on - [you have already, Mike] - hssmrg PS I once saw Alan Wheatley straphanging on the Bakerloo Line between Regent's Park (?) and Oxford Circus! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:00:46 -0700 From: Grant Burnell Subject: Re: BALFFEP - Preliminary Draft Report SydneyC33@aol.com wrote: > > The Distinguished Sir Nick of Winkworth writes: > > << The team was small. It was a tough job ...but we were up to it! > Having assembled the "core team" at a local eatery, and with pencils > duly sharpened, your intrepid Fegs headed bravely for the Hotel Utah.>> > Actually, I was there as well, perhaps the only attendee on both mailing lists. My vote would have been immediately thrown out because of a conflict of interest. > << "The Utah" is basically just a small bar in San Francisco.>> > > Correction. The Utah is a *shoebox* in San Francisco. But word is that many > fine bands play there. I, for one, was pleased to "discover" it for myself. It was my first trip to SF (same for my girlfriend Cathrine). We had a great time. The Utah is smaller even than EJ's in Portland, where I once saw the LF play. It's also smaller than Berbati's Pan in Portland, where Robyn played a while back. The Utah does have class, however. > > Anton sang his heart out. Belted with passion, as it were, which is what I > remember most from Sacramento. I was only familiar with two of the songs > from the setlist (from "Waterbugs & Beetles"), but I'm happy to say I left > with "The Horse's Tongue". Not that the music isn't great, but what I like > most about Anton's songs are the lyrics....clever storytelling (MTV Song), > spirited and sweet (Sarah & Zoe), down and dirty (Bible Beater). I'll be > scoutin' for local gigs, for sure. The only annoying thing was a song where the chorus line was repeated at least 20 times at the end. Pink Floyd wouldn't be that self-indulgent. The set was of great quality, even without their second guitarist who was on his honeymoon. > > I really liked the Loud Family, but would've been happy to have been able to > hear a few more of those "really-important-in-my-book" twisted lyrics. It > would have upped the enjoyment factor, I think, if I had been more familiar > with the songs. That said, the music (and lyrics I *did* hear) was *really* > good--good balance, nice vocal harmonies, with lots of funky timing and > weirdo chord changes that my musician-friends like. :) And they were having > *fun* which made it that much better! I'll bet Scott's got a great sense of > humor... He has an incredible sense of humor. He also likes really dark microbrews, which always says something nice about a person :) > > It was clear that the rest of the Loud Family felt this way too... The > bassist and keyboard player bowed "slave-style" to him as he was introduced! Gil is the man! The set list included three Game Theory songs, and the set started and ended on GT songs with standout drum parts. If only Gil's back holds up over time; the Loud Family could sure use some stability in their line-up. > > << All in all a good time was had by all and The Loud Family received the > Bay Area Feg stamp of approval. You are now all officially authorized to > go see this band if they come your way.>> > > Indeed. But may I change that to Bay Area/Sacramento Feg stamp of approval? And the Corvallis, Oregon stamp of approval for The Loud Family and Anton. By the way, it's an 8 hour drive from Corvallis to SF if you have the right attitude about pressing the accelerator pedal. Grant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: obserlutions On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > Bob Dylan wrote "Open the Door, Homer." Also check out Thunderclap Newman's > great cover of that song. But long before that, there was a old jazz-blues > standard called "Open the Door, Richard." My father actually sort of knew > the guy who wrote that one. I think they may have been in the military > together. Also, this guy (named something like Jack McVee) played clarinet > in a "street group" in Disneyland's New Orleans Square for years and > years.... This is dead right (except for maybe the fellow's name... and I thought it was longer ago than Eb implies... unless Eb is much older than I thought) and I was right in the middle of typing up a strikingly similar response when this message came in. However, the one note I would add just takes us even further from Robyn. Ever see the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam tries to get Bugs to climb up that tower and dive into a kiddie pool like the trick divers of the past did? Well, Yosemite Sam is chasing Bugs up and down this huge ladder and each time when they reach the top, Bugs tricks Sam into jumping off instead of himself. Woo hoo... laugh a minute. Anyway, at one point Bugs instantly erects a doorframe complete with door at the top of the platform (How's he DO that sort of thing, anyway?) and Yosemite Sam, apparently being none too bright, knocks on it. In fact, he starts screaming things like "You crazy varmint! Open the door! You hear me, OPEN THE DOOR!" then Sam makes a little aside (breaking that implied "fourth wall" in a masterstroke of comic genius and irreverance) looking straight out at the audience (which, of course, he cannot even see!) and says "Notice I didn't say Richard?" For a while I thought that was one of the fabled WB animator's inside jokes. But now I'm musically educated and just all-around smart and know that it's in reference to the song. Boyo, did I laugh when I heard Robyn use Richard in Open the Door, Homer, though. Mixing sarcasm and sincerity with limited results, J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Subject: Brought to you by the Letter Q Date: Wed, 13 Aug 97 15:20:52 -0000 From: The Great Quail Good morning, campers! (OK, who now has "Tommy's Holiday Camp" going through your head? I hate when Oliver Reed gets in my head and will not leave. It happens more frequently than you might think.) I have again been really busy, revising web sites, sticking pins in my thumb, and headlining the Lillith Festival - that sort of thing. But before I vanish to Rhode Island for the week, where I will be attending an HP Lovecraft convention, I thought I would cheep in on a few random things, just so no one things I've gone and cut my fool head off. Glen, as part of his Robyn Alphabet, writes for the letter "I": >I am not me Admit it, Glen, you did the *whole* ABC list just to get that one in. . . ------------------------------ From: "Glen Uber" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 12:12:11 -0800 Subject: Open The Door, Somebody Capuchin sez: > On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > > Bob Dylan wrote "Open the Door, Homer." Also check out Thunderclap Newman's > > great cover of that song. But long before that, there was a old jazz-blues > > standard called "Open the Door, Richard." > Boyo, did I laugh when I heard Robyn use Richard in Open the Door, > Homer, though. I haven't heard Dylan's version, but I know that in Thunderclap Newman's version, "Richard" rather than "Homer" is used. I always thought it was in reference to Ol' Tricky Dicky. Someone asked about the reference to "Mouse" in the song. I never really thought about it -- and perhaps it has something to do with growing up in the Bay Area -- but I suppose it could be Stanley Mouse, the fella who did all those groovy Grateful Dead album covers and Fillmore concert posters. TTFN, --g "Pat Buchanan is so homophobic, he blames global warming on the AIDS Quilt." -Dennis Miller __________________________________________________ Glen Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:32:28 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: obserlutions >For a while I thought that was one of the fabled WB animator's inside >jokes. But now I'm musically educated and just all-around smart and know >that it's in reference to the song. Boyo, did I laugh when I heard Robyn >use Richard in Open the Door, Homer, though. if you listen to dylan's version on _the basement tapes_, you'll notice that he actually says "'open the door, richard', i've heard it said before". i read somewhere that he was referring to the older song, quoting it in fact; but changed the name in the title for copyright reasons. KEN ------------------------------ From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Capuchin Subject: RE: Open The Door, Somebody Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:45:30 -0400 Bob Dylan sings "open the door, Richard," in the version of "Open The Door, Homer" on THE BASEMENT TAPES, in case that wasn't common knowledge. Dolph ------------------------------ From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: figures... and a question Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:28:05 -0400 Sorry Fegs! It figures that my last message would go out just after someone else mentioned Dylan's singing of "Richard" in "Homer", since I waited that long, and also that my message would seem so snotty by comparison... Anyway, I have a question. Does anyone know the current where ------------------------------ From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: sorry again Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:30:13 -0400 *sigh* obviously not my day with the e-mail. apologies. Does anyone know the whereabouts of former Feglister David Santos, formerly of the band There Goes Bill? I'd like to get in touch with him -- the There Goes Bill tape I have is excellent -- but I guess he's not on Fegmaniax anymore. Thanks, and sorry for the e-mail messups. Dolph ------------------------------ From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:46:16 -0700 Subject: AB, LF, BA/SA Fegs, too long to actually read in the nineties... I think my multiple guess answers were the same on the AB and LF as those quizzes that were handed in before mine. I'll try to not bore you all with saying the same things everybody else did. My essay would have been more like Sydney's, because I had such difficulty hearing the Loud Family lyrics through the PA. With most bands that would be a good thing, but from what I heard my masculine intuition suggests that this didn't serve them. I purchased two of the Anton Barbeau CD's after the show. I have listened to Waterbeezles and Buttles or something and like it very much. Perhaps I will get to listen to his other CD in traffic this very afternoon. If not inspired by Robyn Hitchcock, this guy's music and lyrics are extremely complimentary to the Hitchcock thing. I must admit that the number one reason that I went in the first place was not to see and report on these two bands, but to hang with some of my favorite people. Nick Winxalot and I rode as a team into San Fran and met up with the one who is known as Sydney. The two of them were very patient with me about explaining the more sophisticated humor of the night. I educated them about the nuances of the finer art of erudite booger humor. Much smiles, laughs, and joy was had by all. Nick and I nearly were able to cause Sydney to launch a small portion of a portabella, but I'm sure we'd have been more successful with the help of Glen, Russ, and Tom. It was great to be recognized by our own dear misplaced one. We all had a really nice chat that could have gone for hours. Anton was a kick to talk to also. Oh. The shirt. I was wearing one of my many Oingo Boingo shirts. This one is a glow- in-the-dark thing that does have all kinds of weird things on it. Sydney or Julie noticed the trilobytes- I was (like it's a temporary condition with me) clueless. It was a great evening, and we are hopeful about creating some happy get-togethers when Bayardo The Magnificent reaches our shores. Treading lightly on Elvis's grave (which is having a birthday!) this week, -Markg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .