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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) Recent Shows/Tapes catching up on Digests: 185 Catching up - digest 186/88 catching up, digests 189/91 Re: catching up, digests 189/91 Robyn vs. Beck Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) Give It To The Loave Boys Re: catching up on Digests: 185 Re: Give It To The Loave Boys Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) Re: Eye confusion Re: Feg Digest V5 #191 Re: Eye confusion Re: Eye confusion elvis is everywhere Pregunta SeaTac? RH on Kershaw Re: RH on Kershaw Re: RH on Kershaw Re: elvis, Pennapalooza Re: elvis, Pennapalooza Mr.Showbiz Re: The Portland Arms Experience Re: Eye confusion ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:55:45 -0500 From: Miles Subject: Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) At 03:30 PM 8/7/1997 -0700, Nick Winkworth wrote: >Given all the discussion on this list in the recent past (both positive >and negative) about The Loud Family, a small but *very* select group of >fegs has decided to form a task team to conduct a formal feg evaluation. [snip] >It should be noted that none of the core team (this author, Mark >"rubbershark" Gloster, Sidney "not a Hedblade" Coatsworth, Tom "for >Apple president rah rah" Clark) has ever heard Loud Family's music >before, let alone seen them. So we believe our report will be meaningful >and unbiased [yeah, right. Ed]. As one of the most enthusiastic Feglist proponents of said Family of Louds, here's hoping for nothing less than mass conversion -- hey, it'll double Scott Miller's record sales if you join up! ;-) BTW, for those few of you who might like Game Theory/Loud Family, but aren't on Loud-Fans, these adventurers will be treated to Gil Ray's first gig in the Loud Family drum chair -- Gil was Game Theory's drummer for a good portion of their history, before succumbing to back problems. Gil is now sufficiently recovered to man the skins once again, which makes this show much-anticipated in Loud-Fan circles. wishing he could be there, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:51:01 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Recent Shows/Tapes Okay, I'm hearing a lot about Robyn & the Soft Boys getting together and Andy & the crowd playing together at the gigs lately.. Does anyone have tapes/setlists of these shows? Trades are available!! :) LSDiamond Bad Cop, no doughnut... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you been exceptionally bad lately? Come serve your penance at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542/penance1.html You'll never commit THAT sin again! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:16:10 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: catching up on Digests: 185 About Syd: >1 first to mess up his hair with really vile thick goop (what was this >again? some sort of wax?) most 50s singers messed up their hair with really vile thick goop - Brylcreem & the like. >2 first to wear pale makeup Al Jolson? No hang on, he wore blackface, because he was, no, erm, perhaps I'm getting confused with someone else. I am not me. I'm only you. >3 first serious acid casualty his mind was going around the same time that Brian Jones was becoming increasingly erratic, but yes, I'd put Barrett a little earlier. And Brian had other problems, sso it's a little more confusing. Trying to pin these things down to one substance is often a tricky one >4 first to lose sanity dare I use the "w" word? Ah, all right... wurlitzer! erm, no, that should read Wilson, B. >5 first leader to be dumped by the rest of the group (surely not!) a case could be made for Pete Best here, dumped by Lennon, McCartney & Harrison. He wasn't strictly the leader of the early Beatles, but he certainly got more attention than the others back in the Cavern/Hamburg days. >>Just out of curiosity, Chalkhills people: how often does a discussion of >>Robyn Hitchcock's music break out on the XTC list? >Zippo, at least while I was there. As far as I could tell, those folks are >really only interested in music that sounds EXTREMELY like XTC...ie the >Sugarplastic, Martin Newell, Yazbek. Heck, they don't even like to discuss >the Beatles. Oh conch-air Ebby old buddy - just last week someone mentioned RH on Chalkhills. I sent 'em in the direction of this list and told 'em to be wary of coturnix coturnix bearing dairy or pharmaceutical products from the South-eastern Mediterranean... (PS - welcome back Mr Quail, sirrah. I hope that thumb of yours is still opposable). James np - Blues for Allah ;) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:16:34 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Catching up - digest 186/88 >10. Who connects Robyn Hitchcock with Mott the Hoople? Mick Ronson is most likely, he's played with Dylan, Bowie and McGuinn, Robyn would make perfect sense. The weirdest connection, however would be Luther Grosvenor -> Gerry Rafferty -> Billy Connolly -> Pamela Stevenson -> Rowan Atkinson -> Richard Briers -> Emma Thompson -> Nigel Planer -> Cliff Richard -> Olivia Newton-John -> Jeff Lynne -> George Harrison -> Paul McCartney -> Elvis Costello ->oh I'm sick of this. Costello is also the answer (via Red Shoes) to one of the other questions. >How about this... what Dead tune(s) (if any) do you think would be cool >for Robyn to cover? Hmmm. he could probably do a mean "Cumberland Blues" or "New Speedway Boogie" >*X* is for ? The (e)xecutioner >bayard stated that cobain was on the downward slope, and i'm afraid i just >can't agree. IN UTERO may not be quite as good as NEVERMIND, but it sure >is amazing. ditto UNPLUGGED and the few materials i've heard from the '94 >tour. also, in one of his last interviews, he stated that he was going to >take nirvana in very different directions, indicating that something like >AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE was in order. i, for one, was extremely excited >to hear what was coming next. and as much as i love the foo fighters, i >agree with eb on this one: kurt left a massive void. Sorry Bayard but I'm with Eb on this one. Nirvana hadn't peaked, I'm pretty sure of that. Cobain's comments about trying new directions, directions we will now never hear, is similar to a cooent Hendrix made about his music not long before he died. Two sons ofSeattle, probably now jamming together. I wonder what THAT would sound like... >not only is this list very informative, but it's also great for the >vocabulary! my two favorite new words: dictaphone and kilofeg. kilofeg, smeg. What about the Megafeg? Oh, and to Dolph and co, English Settlkement may be my favourite XTC album, but Black Sea will always have a special place in my heart (the first XTC album I ever purchased) and with some excellent tracks - Towers of London, Generals and Majors, Travels in Nihilon, Paper and Iron.... excellent stuff! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:17:54 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: catching up, digests 189/91 >i've assumed that in Elizabeth Jade, he sings, "i've got to find myself a >stopper >before i find myself a pauper." >but it could be, >"i've got to find myself a stopper >before i find myself a-popper." Sure it's not 'before I find myself a poppa..." i.e., before I find out I've become a father? Thinkaboutit. >I regret the loss of life and the terrible suffering inflicted on all of >those people and their families, but they should have known better than to >play those records without headphones. As I've always said, if more people >would simply listen to Robyn Hitchcock albums, the world would be a much >happier place. And maybe it would be easier to get decent crabs, too... I refuse to make any comment on a good straight-line like that last sentence. Hoo-boyoboyoboy! >Names: (obRobyn coincidence): In the US, at least, Robin can be a male or >female name. But "Robyn"? Well I just discovered that the manager of my >local Service Merchandise store (female), who I had assumed from our phone >conversation was "Robin" turned out to be "Robyne". Just thought you'd >like to know... In NZ, 99% of Robins are male, 99% of Robyns are female. (I have met one female Robin, but lots of male Robins - including one cousin of mine - and lots of female Robyns - including one ex-girlfriend) >Russ, Queasinart was the actual-real-true-not-a-word that I misspelled. >I'm quite happy that Quail and Cuisinart are so far apart in the >dictionary. His little accident could have been worse, y'kno. To quote the late, great Peter Cook: "The Arab can feed his family for a whole year on a grain of rice - no sorry, that's the mosquito. I get them confused because they're next to each other in the dictionary. Mosquito and Mosque." >James Dignan, pal, hang tight. I will really reply soon to your helpful >memo. I have your CD in the package ready to send. It's just a snailswim >away, thanks to our dependance upon a single source for so much of our >parcel cartage here in the land of the free and the home of the Yankees (I >like the Mets better- and I really don't like the braves- jeez why am I >telling you this, I don't even like baseball much). Hangin' in like Gunga Din in the land of the slightly confused and the home of the Blacksox (Actually I think they're the NZ softball team. I don't know if we even have a baseball team...). >terry and susie are both on the pet sounds list. and a bunch of people are >also on the chalkhills list. and eb and james are on some other list. >well, eb's on all of 'em near as i can tell. i don't know why, but it just >seems kind of spooky. is there a velvet underground list? i should get on >that, i guess. terry and susie are watching the Waterloo Sunset (no? was I close?). Eb and I are on about 5 of the same lists, I reckon: NZ music, XTC, King Crimson, Robyn, possibly Eno...Don't think he's on the Church list... I haven't seen him on the flags list yet either, although I'm constantly on the lookout for a post that starts: "I've always thought that Libya's flag was really boring. They used to have a good flag until 1977, but they've really lost it since then..." ;) James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 23:51:29 -0500 (CDT) From: amadain Subject: Re: catching up, digests 189/91 On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, James Dignan wrote: > >"i've got to find myself a stopper > >before i find myself a-popper." > > Sure it's not 'before I find myself a poppa..." i.e., before I find out > I've become a father? Thinkaboutit. I like the idea that it's all of these. Fuckin' great! :) > >well, eb's on all of 'em near as i can tell. i don't know why, but it just > >seems kind of spooky. is there a velvet underground list? i should get on > >that, i guess. I've never seen Eb on any list that I'm on (Kinks, John Cale, jangly, Paul Weller). I have seen a few people from here on the first three, most notably Terry innocently causing controversy on the Kinks list (which is actually really easy, just attempt to do anything other than be worshipful or talk about how much your little 5 year old likes them and isn't it cute). It's really interesting that Eddie Tews and I are both on McLibel also. Rock on, brother! > terry and susie are watching the Waterloo Sunset (no? was I close?). That'd be Julie :). > for a post that starts: "I've always thought that Libya's flag was really > boring. They used to have a good flag until 1977, but they've really lost > it since then..." ;) "And I'm a lot more interested in seeing the new flag from Zimbabwe than ANYTHING Libya could produce, anyway" :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Robyn vs. Beck On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Eb wrote: > > Before you judge Neil as not being diverse, > > listen to, in order: personally, I could never listen to that much neil. "Trans"? Yeesh. > Eb, admittedly more excited about upcoming Beck releases than RH ones Beck's work, though interesting, strikes me as kind of a tossed salad. I mean, everything's all sliced and diced and sampled. It's wild to hear him just play a song on a plain old guitar! =b, more excited about the RH film than the Beck film (oh? there isn't a Beck film? sorry...) ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) That whacky Mark of Gloster writes: << I don't know anything about The Anton Barbeau Drag Team 3 or really The Loud Family, other than what I heard on our list that just happens to be about Robyn Hitchcock. But any excuse to get together with some of my favorite chums (and Mark Gloster And Big Rubber Shark fans) is a great excuse to do so.>> Seconded! While I don't know anything about that Family of Megadecibels, I *am* a fan of Anton Barbeau since seeing him open for Robyn here in Sacramento, and especially since Waterbugs & Beetles arrived on my doorstep. Besides, the opinions of our own Steve "King XTC" Schiavo, and Miles "We Wish You Could Be There Too" Outdoorminer aren't lost on me. As to our official evaluation project so eloquently described by Mr. Winkworth, I shall recuse my biased self from any Anton evaluation, but our Loud Family analysis shall be objective, I assure you. Mike Godwin, our honorary statistician will have no worries of tainted data. (OMG...I'm starting to sound like one of those SVFTG [Silicon Valley Feg Techno Geeks]!! No offense, Tom. :) ) <> Indeed, I shall attempt to maintain the scientific integrity of our study, whilst keeping the giggles to a minimum. Not an easy chore for me, mind you, but I think I'm up to the task. And yes, Mark, I'll be happy to interpret any non-booger funnies that come our way. :) See you Saturday at 4th and Bryant! Sydney (not a Hedblade, but wishes like heck he could be there to lend his expertise to our BayFeg project :) ) ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 08:20:38 +0100 Subject: Give It To The Loave Boys TO: fegmaniax@ecto.org Noe wrote: >>Not to mention "she the one i love/I put her on the stove.." when >>you read it, it looks like it rhymes, yes? > I always assumed it was 'she the one i love....', don't forget > Robyns eccent, this is how he pronounce love. As in "Arms Of Loave" or "Loave On Ya Baby". I think not. And he certainly wouldn't say "eccent" with his accent. Both versions of WWHUH (looks good as an acronym) on IH (doesn't) sound like "v" rather than "th". Besides why would he say "She pretty good" then say he "loathed" her. Mind you, I hadn't considered that the lyrics were meant to make much sense, but then the "simmering on his stove" bits ........ he's not being rude, is he??? (H) Who still can't see that "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about anything other than sledging. NP - Hanson "Mmmbop" (Not really of course. The power of suggestion.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 00:30:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: catching up on Digests: 185 James wrote: >>>Just out of curiosity, Chalkhills people: how often does a discussion of >>>Robyn Hitchcock's music break out on the XTC list? > >>Zippo, at least while I was there. As far as I could tell, those folks are >>really only interested in music that sounds EXTREMELY like XTC...ie the >>Sugarplastic, Martin Newell, Yazbek. Heck, they don't even like to discuss >>the Beatles. > >Oh conch-air Ebby old buddy - just last week someone mentioned RH on >Chalkhills. I sent 'em in the direction of this list and told 'em to be >wary of coturnix coturnix bearing dairy or pharmaceutical products from the >South-eastern Mediterranean... (PS - welcome back Mr Quail, sirrah. I hope >that thumb of yours is still opposable). A "mention" is a far cry from a "discussion of Robyn Hitchcock's music." Eb (you can call me E, or you can call me Eb, or you can call me E flat...but you doesn't have to call me Ebby! [that joke may lost on a New Zealander]) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 03:33:30 -0500 (CDT) From: amadain Subject: Re: Give It To The Loave Boys On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com wrote: > Both versions of WWHUH (looks good as an acronym) on IH (doesn't) > sound like "v" rather than "th". Besides why would he say "She pretty > good" then say he "loathed" her. Well.... They could both be true. Don't forget he also says "useful". I've known people who were useful and good for certain purposes whom I actually didn't much like. But I'll leave that question alone. I'm with the loave/loathe/love people on this one, I think he means to pun on all of them. And then there's the "cut meat" part which lends an interesting dimension to the "loave" part (aside of course from the obvious ways you could read that phrase). But then I have what you would probably call a rude imagination :). > sense, but then the "simmering on his stove" bits ........ he's not > being rude, is he??? LOL! What's funny to me is not that comment per se, but, once again I am struck by the way different people hear and interpret things. It never occurred to that me that Robyn was -not- :). Caveat- I have, as I said, a rude and occasionally morbid and certainly overactive imagination (or as an ex of mine would have it, "you know, you're really smutty and morbid sometimes"). That's no doubt at least part of what makes the difference. > (H) Who still can't see that "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about anything > other than sledging. Eh? It's about Syd Barrett's mouse Gerald and how he got loose in H.P, Lovecraft's bedroom one day and prophesized the future invention of Watermelon Pop Rocks. I thought everyone knew that. It's so obvious. > NP - Hanson "Mmmbop" (Not really of course. The power of suggestion.) I think I must be the only person on earth who hasn't heard this infernal song. I'm not eager to change my status. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:06:16 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Bay Area Loud Family Feg Evaluation Project (BALFFEP) On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Nick Winkworth wrote: > Given all the discussion on this list in the recent past (both positive > and negative) about The Loud Family, a small but *very* select group of > fegs has decided to form a task team to conduct a formal feg evaluation. [snip] > We would like to nominate Mike "mean deviation" Godwin as honorary group > statistician - even though the Bristol ferry won't get here till > September 1999 > ~Nick > BALFFEP Project Manager Extrordinaire > and Chief Beverage Consumption Officer As you surmised, it's going to be a bit difficult for me to get there, as I will be evaluating a mate's new 8-track digital recorder that day. Still, speaking as honorary group statistician, I think the important thing to do is to get a 'before and after' index set up, so that you can compare peoples' prior expectations with their subsequent reaction. Then run a t-test for correlated means on the two scores. A simpler alternative is Sandler's A, which divides the sum of the squares of the differences by the square of the sum of the differences (with N-1 degrees of freedom). That way you can not only make a statement that the Loud Family were better or worse than expected, but you will have the satisfaction of knowing that your statement is _statistically significant_! Whee! - Mike ("I thought Kolmogorov Smirnoff was a type of vodka") Godwin PS What's this about no RH power chords, Eric? 'I am not me' sounds like power chords to my ear. And since when did the astonishingly diverse Mr McManus ever do any power chords? If it was after 'Poor Napoleon', I'd stopped listening to him. It certainly wasn't on 'Almost Blue': "After three full years of marriage [KLANNG!] it's the first time that you haven't [PRRUNG!] made the bed" [TWANG! THRRUNNG!]. Not quite James Burton's style, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:27:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Plumb Subject: Re: Eye confusion > dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) wrote: > > At the risk of sounding like an idiot, how come Rhino can re-release > Eye, which according to my copy was originally A&M? Doesn't this mean > Rhino could re-release Queen Elvis? > There must have been more than one original copy of Eye because mine is not A&M. I don't have it here at work, but I'm pretty sure it came out on Twin-Tone. rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:25:18 +0100 From: fiona zinovieff Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #191 >On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >> Huh? If these two words weren't pronounced exactly the same we wouldn't be >> having this discussion in the first place! > > I think you'll find that - like "caught" and "cot", or "Dawn" and >"Don" - "pauper" and "popper" are the same in some Englishes and not in >others. > Of course RH, like Dylan, doesn't always rigidly follow rules of pronunciation, just as long as he's pretty close. Remember this golden oldie: "Darling, you don't have to call me starling/Stalin..." But in areas where english is pronounced differently darlin often doesn't "ing" on the end so it really does rhyme with Starlin. Mind you it never occured to me that Starlin should end with an "ing" I think I like him better as a starling popper definately rhymes with stopper whereas pauper would be pawper but has popper got some connection with death, as in popped his clogs? enuff of this stuff - the subject calls - and the experiment must go on fzed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:28:27 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: Eye confusion >> At the risk of sounding like an idiot, how come Rhino can re-release >> Eye, which according to my copy was originally A&M? Doesn't this mean >> Rhino could re-release Queen Elvis? >> >There must have been more than one original copy of Eye because >mine is not A&M. I don't have it here at work, but I'm pretty sure >it came out on Twin-Tone. guess what? you're both right. 1990 A&M Records - Manufactured and marketed by Twin/Tone Records Inc. under license for A&M Records Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Eye confusion daniel wrote: > > At the risk of sounding like an idiot, how come Rhino can re-release > > Eye, which according to my copy was originally A&M? Doesn't this mean > > Rhino could re-release Queen Elvis? rich wrote: > There must have been more than one original copy of Eye because > mine is not A&M. I don't have it here at work, but I'm pretty sure > it came out on Twin-Tone. Daniel, if you're referring to the liner note "Robyn Hitchcock exists courtesy of A&M records," this seems like a little obligatory legal thing noting that RH was signed to A&M but appeared on Twin/Tone, with permission, for one album. =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:43:54 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: elvis is everywhere COSTELLO: >Costello has written quite credibly (often brilliantly) in the fields of >rock, pop, punk, classical, country, folk, blues, film scoring, reggae and >"lounge,"...Costello is the most versatile songwriter I've ever heard. you're right about one thing: mr. macmanus is one of the greatest, most prolific, and versitile songwriters of our generation. still, i think that all of the fields that you mentioned have some representation by our beloved uncle bobby. try it, it's fun. he does take chances and tries different things. the only real mainstay in his music is his bizzare sense of humor (black and sticky) and his dedicated use of the guitar as a driving force. sure, everyone loves elvis and that may justify your snobbery an itsy bitsy tad; but big deal. i get defensive about all kinds of artists, but elvis is up there with the beatles. he doesn't need your litigation. and he has had a few dodgey spots in his career. PRESLEY: >One of the recent threads suggested the degradation >of quality of material by aging musical artists. In >Dan Bern's song on the subject he talks about "too >late to crash, too late to burn, too late to die... >young." It starts with the line "When Elvis died was >like a mercy killing, America breathed a sigh of >relief." (Get the Dan Bern CD.- Really) yeah yeah yeah, the fart that saved the world. ha ha. how come no one talks that way about aretha franklin or roy orbison? just because he bloated and lost his youthful sex appeal, he was some parody of himself. sure, it's funny to make those jokes with the farts and belches on stage; but the man's voice never lost it. he is/was one of the most soulful singers of our time and changed the face of music, making r&b socially acceptable without losing any of its sensuality. sure, he made a decade's worth of bad movies and questionable songs; but how many artists could come back from that like he did? his late sixties/early seventies work rivals his earlier work in the fifties. check out _the memphis album_. actually costello did a great bit during 'god's comic' on his last tour concerning presley's comeback tour. imagine some of the songs he would do: springsteen's 'i'm on fire' and u2's 'i still haven't found what i'm looking for'. i was taping the show off of the radio and of course my tape ran out right in the middle of the routine. "elvis isn't dead. he's just gone home." -Agent K KEN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 14:14:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Pregunta SeaTac? Seattle-Tacoma residents: how do you spell the abbreviation? is it Sea-Tac, Sea/Tac, SeaTac, Seatac, Sea Tac? On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, James Dignan wrote: > About Syd: > > >1 first to mess up his hair with really vile thick goop (what was this > >again? some sort of wax?) > > most 50s singers messed up their hair with really vile thick goop - > Brylcreem & the like. well, yes, i think what i meant by "mess up" was misunderstood... i didn't mean your 50's pomp-a-do, I meant the sort of hair later sported by the chaps from the Cure. (IIRC) I really do think Syd was a vision from the future. ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 15:02:03 Subject: RH on Kershaw This should be on the BBC RealAudio server: Andy Kershaw : Monday 20.40 - 22.30pm. IN SESSION - BLACK UMFOLOSI 04.08.97 Mouse & The Traps - "A Public Execution" (Big Beat Records) Manu Dibango - "From Congo" (Mercury Records) David Byrne - "The Gates of Paradise" (Luka Bop - Warner Brothers) Black Umfolosi - "Helele Mama Africa" Bhundu Boys - "Misodzi Pamatama" (Cooking Vinyl) Michael Buckley & Bugle Bant - "Jack & Jill" (Greensleeves Records) Lemzo Diamono Group - "Chance" (Stern's Africa) Buck Owens & The Buckaroos - "Buckaroo" (Country Music Foundation) Backsliders - "The Pain of Love" (Mammoth Records) Black Umfolosi - "Bazali Bethu" Five Blind Boys of Alabama - "Dimming of the Day" (Capitol) Ayub Ogada - "Obiero" (Amiata Records) Soul Brothers - "Hluphekile" (Earthworks) Fun Lovin Criminals - "Scooby Snacks" (Chrysalis) Sekou & Djanka Diabate - "Diougouya" (Dakar Sound) Gerardo Rosales - "De Venezuela Para El Mundo" (A Records) Black Umfolosi - "The Hour" MC Solaar - "Gangster Moderne" (Polydor) Pa Bobo Jobarteh & Kaira Tri - "Africa" (Real World Records) Eddie Forehand - "You Were Meant for Me" (Sequel) Neil Young & Crazy Horse - "Mr Soul" (Reprise Records) Robyn Hitchcock - "Tell Me" (Warner Brothers Records) Martin Hayes - "The Bucks of Oranmore/Eileen Curran/Jimmy" (Green linnet Records) Black Umfolosi - "Catch Our Song" ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 8/8/97 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 17:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: RH on Kershaw As someone who has neither RealAudio nor a realistic chance to get this... Is ther any way someone could get me a tape of this? (Preferably all of it, but failing that, "Tell me", and the stuff by Mouse & The Traps) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 16:34:01 Subject: Re: RH on Kershaw I haven't been able to tape or even sample anything from RealAudio, but that is probably due to my infamiliarity with puters and soundcards and stuff like that. Also I haven't listened to the show yet, I just got that from a friend and passed it along... The site for those who want to look for it is ra.bbc.co.uk or the best way to do this is to use your trusty browser and go to www.bbc.co.uk hit the radio button, in the new frame hit music, then hit radio 1 and it gives you the menu. For the RA section go to the listening booth Cheers Jay --- On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 17:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Terrence M Marks wrote: >As someone who has neither RealAudio nor a realistic chance to get this... >Is ther any way someone could get me a tape of this? >(Preferably all of it, but failing that, "Tell me", and the stuff by >Mouse & The Traps) > >Terrence Marks >Remember-Jesus is your friend. >normal@grove.ufl.edu -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 8/8/97 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:04:48 -0400 (EDT) From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: elvis, Pennapalooza >COSTELLO: > sure, everyone loves elvis and that may justify your snobbery an >itsy bitsy tad; but big deal. i get defensive about all kinds of artists, >but elvis is up there with the beatles. he doesn't need your litigation. Let me take a moment here to gush on about God Himself. If there was ever a Picasso of rock&roll, it is EC. He joyfully works in many different genres, and manages to master them with the ease of a seasoned pro. I would even defend _Almost Blue_ (his country album) and _The Juliet Letters_ (chamber orchestra); here are two genres that take the usual hacks a lifetime to master, and for Elvis it is just as natural as singing in the shower. And the lyrics, the lyrics...oh! Even at his low-points, he is brilliant and more innovative than a good 95% of all 'modern rock' (for lack of a better expression) being made. Furthermore, his work is *timeless*-- stuff he was doing in 1982 sounds just as fresh today. On a completely different subject, has anyone else gotten the new Michael Penn CD, _Resigned_? It's highly addictive-- I've been listening to it a couple of times a day, and it even prompted me to drag out _March_ and _Free For All_, which are two of the most underrated records of the last decade. So everyone come over to my house for Pennapalooza. And am I the only person over the age of 14 who has discovered Sublime? _40 Oz. To Freedom_ is so much fun. Their second album is quite good too. Ironically, there is so much joy in their music-- it's like they are really enjoying just playing together, jamming. And there's a LOT of music, 22 cuts, and many of the cuts are 5 or 6 minutes long, but it's a GOOD kind of long. Anyone, anyone? I'm breathing, but it's become a chore, lj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:20:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: elvis, Pennapalooza >Let me take a moment here to gush on about God Himself. If there was ever >a Picasso of rock&roll, it is EC. He joyfully works in many different >genres, and manages to master them with the ease of a seasoned pro. I >would even defend _Almost Blue_ (his country album) and _The Juliet >Letters_ (chamber orchestra); here are two genres that take the usual hacks >a lifetime to master, and for Elvis it is just as natural as singing in the >shower. > >And the lyrics, the lyrics...oh! > >Even at his low-points, he is brilliant and more innovative than a good 95% >of all 'modern rock' (for lack of a better expression) being made. >Furthermore, his work is *timeless*-- stuff he was doing in 1982 sounds >just as fresh today. Yay! You go, LJ! Eb PS Sublime: not my thing. Michael Penn: good, but a bit bland. The Juliet Letters: bravo. Almost Blue: probably my least favorite EC album. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 15:25:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Mr.Showbiz There's a review of the new Hitchcock collection on the ABC site {http://www.mrshowbiz.com/} Gets a rating of 81 (out of 100 I guess). check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:34:12 +0300 (IDT) From: Noe Shalev Subject: Re: The Portland Arms Experience On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Daniel Saunders wrote: > I listened to the tape for the first time yesterday. It's terrific! Very > unexpected, but delightful. It would be fun to make an evangelizing set > with this, the Nov. 6 1996 Vancouver show with Deni Bonet, and a > compilation tape in between, arranged in chronological order. Call it > This is Then, That Was Now. Put a quotation: "I don't know why, but I > think I'm going to try / to fade back into yesterday, before tomorrow > comes". > > Portland Arms sounded like it was on a record (snap crackle pop). Is > there anywhere you can get the record from? > > And are there any other Soft Boys recordings this good > > -- > Daniel Saunders > Have a day. :-| > actually that as my first SB record (I had blackk snake and gotta let this hen on a tape but i don't count it), nevertheless I saw another copy in a fairly nice condition in a second hand record shop, i could try and purchase it for u, but take into consideration that i leave in tel aviv, and it might b a bit of a problem shipping it to you, if u still interested tell me, and i'll try NOE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 22:43:30 +0300 (IDT) From: Noe Shalev Subject: Re: Eye confusion On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Rich Plumb wrote: > > > dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) wrote: > > > > At the risk of sounding like an idiot, how come Rhino can re-release > > Eye, which according to my copy was originally A&M? Doesn't this mean > > Rhino could re-release Queen Elvis? > > > There must have been more than one original copy of Eye because > mine is not A&M. I don't have it here at work, but I'm pretty sure > it came out on Twin-Tone. > > rich > twin tone it was indeed, yet the labal is A&M, taht are the two labels on my vinyl. yet, I've got a cd labeled Glass FIsh, and I've got the Rhino reissue, no need to say, each copy (by this order)contains some bonus tracks (compaired to the previous one) noe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .