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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Hitchcock's hidden track Uncorrected Personality Traits stuff Re: XTC Re: XTC Re: XTC Re: Fruity XTC (5% RH) XTC, that dog, and a question ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Hitchcock's hidden track On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Russ Reynolds wrote: > How 'bout that odd little jam that follows "Heaven" on fegmania? A bona > fide vinyl hidden track which remains "hidden" on CD. If I remember > correctly, it's about a half inch or so into the record's "inner groove" and > therefore may have been undetectable on automatic record players. > > I've got it listed as "Fobykob" in my discography, but I never would have > come up with that title on my own. Maybe Bayard has it listed that way in > his song list? I always thought he was saying "Gowbakop" (go back up?), but never listed it as a separate song-- I thought that was just part of that version of Heaven. (I've never owned any Hitchcock vinyl.) I'll be sure to add it. (: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 15:19:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Uncorrected Personality Traits in case nobody's mentioned it yet, there's a picture (albeit a tiny one) of the new album on the Rhino site...also, the "fanecdotes" are displayed in the "liner notes" setion. Many familiar names...Griffith Davies, Gene Hopstetter, Susan Dodge, Kay Lord Wisniewsk...you're all famous now. check it out. http://www.rhino.com/media/ -rr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:43:32 -0400 From: elwoj of robyndell Subject: stuff catching up on things a little... kevin casey sez: >While browsing today, I came across a CD called "Thank You, Bob". It is a >compilation of BOB magazine flexis and the first track is Robyns live at >McCabes version of "A Day in the Life". if anyone has this, could they please post discographical details? i remember that ferris posted a follow-up about this, but i've forgotten if he said if this was a recent release or not. did this just come out? or has it been around for a while? eb sez: >Anyway, I think That Dog has genuine talent as do i. i picked up their first record on a whim when it was released and loved it. with every subsequent release, they have just gotten better and better. yes, they're total bubblegum, but provided you can stomach sugary confections, they're a great band. and how can you *not* like a band with lyrics like: "you're pretty dreamy for a guy from long island you should come to see me on my western horizon" (okay, i'll grant that someone may not like stuff like that, but i can't resist it....) james sed: >Hedningarna - bizarre vikings. Swedish/Finnish band mix trad folk, >Sugarcubes-like rock and Nina Hagen influences into some of the strangest >and most fun music you'll eve hear in a Finno-ugric language. If you like >Danielle Dax, you'll like Hedningarna. At least three albums out - I've >only heard one: "Kaksi!" hedningarna's first is "iksi", the second is "kaksi", and the third "tra" (with a little circle over the a, as in angstrom). there is a fourth album, a compilation of tracks from "kaksi" and "tra" released in america, called "fire". fegs skilled in scandinavian tongues will recognize those names as "1, 2, 3, 4" in, if i remember correctly, swedish. (if anyfeg out there likes this band, check out other these other wacky scandinavian rock-folksters: garmana (they have two "heavy metalfolk" albums which are distributed in america by omnium -- the folks in boiled in lead) and den fule, who have just had a compilation of their work released in america by northside called _quake_. i could talk for ages about the scandinavian stuff for a while, but i'd set a bad example for topic drift...so i'll get back on topic now. little john asks: >I've found a copy of 'Live Death' for $35. Is it worth that much? Are >the tracks (it says there are only seven!) really that good? it's worth that much from a collector's item point-of-view -- it's quite rare and in demand. in fact, $35 is a fairly low price for this item (the royal queen albert and beautiful homer promo disc, which i understand was a similarly sized pressing, has already been spotted for $50). as for the songs, i, for one, thinks they are decent. i have a dub of the disc. as i recall, the version of "arms of love" on the disc is probably the best performance of that song i've ever heard. a good "clean steve" too. noe asks: >is(or was) there any connection between Robyn and Momus? far as i know, the only connection is that the only people who have recommended momus were robyn hitchcock fans. ex-feg jim davies is an example. i think i may have a momus album kicking around, but i don't remember it leaving much of an impression. bayard sez: >i suppose the "reply-to:" field is not universal enough to be supported by >majordomo? pity. one would almost think it could add a reply-to option >to each piece of mail it handles (if mail programs recognized this >function.) actually, majordomo is quite capable of munging a reply-to: header. however, i've disabled that for fegmaniax for a couple reasons: 1) there are times when a poster may have a valid reason for using a reply-to: header to direct replies to an address other than the one being sent from. a maiing list manager has no business screwing up someone else's reply-to:. 2) reply-to: pointing to the list generally results in an increase of mail which should have been off-list. i can't even begin to count the number of personal notes i've seen which have been accidentially posted to lists because someone replied without checking the to: header. it's better to err on the side of off-list instead of on-list -- it's easy to resend a misdirected public post, but impossible to retract a misdirected private post. while i have admin mode on, i'm going to be out of town again most of this weekend. unlike last weekend, i should be able to check in nightly to take care of digests, but there may be a missed day in there. finally, eb sez: >It's my experience that XTC fans fall into two camps: those who like >English Settlement the best, and those who like Skylarking the best. and then there are those who think that _the big express_ is best. last time i checked, there were only three of us (myself, chalkhills listmeister john relph and the inscrutable jon drukman). woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:28:22 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: XTC >And...is Apples and Oranges one of XTC's better albums? >I got it and apart from "One of the Millions", I'm not too >fond of it... > >Terrence Marks I take it you mean "Oranges and Lemons". For a sixties fan like you, Tel, I would suggest trying "Skylarking" instead (even though my favourite's "English Settlement"). James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:30:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: XTC james wrote: >I take it you mean "Oranges and Lemons". For a sixties fan like you, Tel, I >would suggest trying "Skylarking" instead (even though my favourite's >"English Settlement"). See? See? I TOLD you...it's one or the other. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:33:53 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: XTC >And...is Apples and Oranges one of XTC's better albums? >I got it and apart from "One of the Millions", I'm not too >fond of it... > >Terrence Marks I too have just got into XTC. I only have 2 of their albums ("Skylarking" and "Oranges and Lemons") and I think they're both great! Does their music on "Oranges" remind anyone else of Adrian Belew's Beatle-esque solo work? --Ben ------------------------------ From: Martin_Bell@idg.co.nz Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:14:23 +1200 Subject: Re: Fruity XTC (5% RH) In digest #183, Terrence asked: And...is Apples and Oranges one of XTC's better albums? I got it and apart from "One of the Millions", I'm not too fond of it... That'll be Oranges and Lemons to which you're referring, squire. I've got all of the West Country lads official album releases (as well heaps of demos, singles, etc), and I would rate O & L at no-better than halfway up the pile. I think the production now sounds very dated (Paul Fox anyone?) and the boys just sound as if they're trying too damn hard for much of the album. Having said that, I still love One Of The Millions, Hold Me My Daddy (gee, shucks) and Pink Thing (snigger). And 8 years down the line, Mayor of Simpleton and Merely a Man remain emminently hummable pop ditties . Far better (in my opinion, of course) are Black Sea, Mummer, and their two meisterworks English Settlement and Skylarking. Recent information from "Chalkhills" (the XTC mailing list), has the band forming their own record label (IDEA), after a self-imposed 5 year recording strike with previous label Virgin. Recent demos from main-main Andy Partridge, which have been doing the internet rounds, would suggest that a new XTC release (when it eventually happens) will be nothing short of brilliant Obligatory Robyn Content: Are crustaceans now cool? The wee fellow on the front of the Prodigy's new world-wide smasheroonie has got me thinking that the planet is now as ready as it'll ever be for a full-scale Robyn Revival (not that he ever went away, mind you). Would the juicily-named Lobster Man care to comment? :) Tally Ho Martin Bell ------------------------------ From: "Chaney, Dolph L" Subject: XTC, that dog, and a question Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:26:34 -0400 woj included this in his post: > finally, eb sez: > > >It's my experience that XTC fans fall into two camps: those who > > like English Settlement the best, and those who like Skylarking > > the best. > > and then there are those who think that _the big express_ is best. > last time i checked, there were only three of us (myself, chalkhills > listmeister john relph and the inscrutable jon drukman). not to mention those who like _Black Sea_ best, a group which includes at least myself and ex-Zappa guitarist Mike Keneally (who likes it best even though he gets thanked in the liner notes for... _Oranges & Lemons_, which started this whole discussion!). Terry, you might dig the Dukes of Stratosphear, which is XTC's fun and entirely apolitical 60s joke/tribute. "Bike Ride To The Moon" is a dead ringer for Syd in a good mood. I am also a that dog convert. I've only heard the new one, though. I'll spare the list my spouting off about it; if you're interested in what I think about it, you might want to peek at my "Cluzz Bips" column at my website: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1031/cluzz.html. As a lame attempt to shoehorn some Robyn content in here, I've got a question. On Robyn's top 10 albums list (as printed in the Rhino _Gotta Let This Hen Out!_), Steeleye Span and Martin Carthy each get a spot. I'm a rabid Nick Drake and Denny/Thompson-era Fairport fan, so I'm interested in trying to track down those two albums from the top 10, but are they (or some compilation with a lot of their songs) available anywhere? (I just realized that I may be the first person to place "rabid" next to "Nick Drake" in a sentence. A dubious honor, that.) Dolph ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .