From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #165 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 165 Monday July 14 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- me and robyn Fegs of the Ring Unbashed Quail - please, stop, you're embarrassing me! tolkien/fegstock (RH close to nil) Re: Ron Sexsmith Re: Ron Sexsmith Mr. Vega Re: Fegs of the Ring FegStock Re: Bumbershoot/FegFest '97 RH music videos, dammit! T-shirt idea! Of course! Re: Old Thread/Muzak Re: could someone please clarify? Re: ...Robyn wants to know... Re: RH music videos, dammit! RE: Ron Sexsmith (no RH) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:18 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: me and robyn um. by the time the _creem_ magazine with the "is this man god?" cover photo came out, i was already a feg, but i still sorta think that it was an article or summat in _creem_ what prompted my first purchase -- vinyl _fegMANIA!_ used for $3 from the same store to which much of my vinyl was later fenced. i think the 'wading through a ventilator' sb ep was next -- i remember that _element of light_ was the first one i bought when it actually came out, and the first time i saw robyn was one of the solo acoustic tours in support of element or invisible hitchcock. uh, 86? foggy depths of time, y'know...i think bayard's memory is better than mine. and i live in the cesspool called by some the capitol of the us of a. was that the required information? - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ------------------------------ Subject: Fegs of the Ring Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 13:50:42 -0000 From: The Great Quail Eddie submitted an interesting idea, casting the Feglist into the Lord of the Rings. Being a Tolkien fan from birth (my mother read the Hobbit to her tummy for nine months) I am compelled to respond with my own interpretations and additions. With all due respect to Eddie, here we go: > woj, of course, is the frodo of the list I see Woj more as Elrond, to be honest, with slightly different musical tastes. You know, maybe an Elrond that occasionally whacks his Elven singers so they shriek more, or forces them to sing over a trio of yodelling trolls just for effect. But definitely the guy who calls councils, gives advice, and organizes things. Yes. Elwoj of Robyndell. > aragorn: rock solid dependable, understated charisma, impeccable >bloodlines, been-around-the-block wisdom, not above entering the >fray...i know there's a bit of a gender problem, but you gonna tell me >that's not susan to a T? Aragorn was, though all those, also pretty grim, terse, honest, honorabale, occasionally crabby - and definitely not afraid to chop heads. Looking for that crowm, you know. My vote goes to Eb for Strider. > bayard is gandalf Oh, yes! Absolutely. And his Balrog - that which fomented the passage from the Grey to Gandalf of the Many Colors - was Glass Flesh, lurking in the dark and grappling with him for many months. . . . > john is elrond John LittleJohn I would put as Gimli, full of skewed, baiting "fuck youse guys" humor. Plus how can you resist casting a guy named "LittleJohn" as a dwarf? > tracy and aidan are galadriel and celeborn Ah, yes. "Come into the Forests of Toastwood and take a lock of my hair. . . ." > sydney of the wasps and mr. hedblade are merry and pippin Two stalwart adventurers always ready to lend a hand or shoulder a burden. Ent-friends, keepers of the Globe of Wisdom. (Or Frogs.) I would aslo put Terry here, too, but we seem to be running out of hobbits. . . . > .chris is bombadil Or "Tim Tim Benzedrine. . . ." > and the quail is obviously master samwise: his oratory may not be >earth-shatteringly profound (whose is?), One would hope I am not earth-shattering. I leave that to the guys at the Billy Bragg List. >it may not be 100% "on-topic," I beg to differ! Just because some of you may not be aware of the topic. . . . >but it's usually insightful, always entertaining, and ALWAYS welcomed. This sounds suspiciously like a Little Caesar's commercial during a bad sitcom. >and let's don't forget that gamgee pulled frodo's bacon out of the fire >on more than one occasion. master samwise and toad of toad hall are my >two favorite literary character Hurm. I'm still not so sure how I like being compared to a chubby hobbit with a crush on his master and a tendency to lose his cool the first time he sees an elf. . . . but if that's what you think, I suppose. I always thought I was more like Gollum, my precioussss. . . . yessss, Eddie tweses, you looks tassssty, yesss. . . . . > i suppose it goes without saying that eb and myself are nazgul, but >somebody else can fill in the other seven. Nah . . . the Nazgul are a bit to one-sided, you know what I mean? You don't flame enough, and are too possessed by a sense of fair play. I would put you, Mr. T, as Boromir: honest, making connections, full of a sense of what is just, and thinking that Eb is a Nazgul. To the others: I think Susan is Legolas - full of flirtatious life, armed with a lot of knowledge, gets on Gimli's nerves. . . . LJ Lindhurst is clearly that woman warrior of Rohan (Eowin?) who killed the Nazgul; James Dignan is Gwaihir the Eagle, a wise presence somewhat far away, prone to awooping in and saving the day; and my vote for Tom Bombadil goes to Mark Gloster - a wandering cheerful minstrel, and for the sake of my purposes, LSDiamond is his mate Goldberry. This leaves many others, though one can fit them in readily: Tom Clark, Wizard of Apple, is Saruman the Wise *before* he went bad and switched to Microsoft; Hal, Ross, Gene, Ken, Miles, .chris and fellows are the sturdy ones that make up the very fabric of the tale, the Riders of Rohan, the Men of Minas Tirith, and the like; Kay, Debora, Zeda, Pamela, Mary, Karen make up the spirited Elves, possessed of a unique wisdom; Nick Winkworth s Treebeard, and Mike Runion gets to be that cheerful wizard, Radagast the Brown. (It just seems that way for some reason. . . ) Oh yes, and Frodo? I think that should be obvious. . . . Mr. Baggins is of course Robyn. Now, if I can only work this all into a new story, maybe a trilogy of some sorts. . . . The Quail ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Subject: Unbashed Quail - please, stop, you're embarrassing me! Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 13:51:18 -0000 From: The Great Quail Hello? I appreciate some of you fine people leaping to my defense, but I do not - I repeat - I do not feel "bashed" in anyway. No a jot. I say this unabashedly. So thank you, but there is really no reason to perpetuate something that does not exist, say like what the Mormons have been doing for quite a long time, or Amway, Inc. I only wonder what happened to Susan and Jay, and if they are happy where they are with Elvis. . . Quail My vote goes for tiny frogs on the map. ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:43:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: tolkien/fegstock (RH close to nil) > > bayard is gandalf cool- i got a mention in quail's fegfiction and i get to be gandalf too! this is sort of in keeping with something someone on the list told me-- apparently his wife thought of me as a "wise old sage".. lol... i think it was b/c of my name (pronounced as if the second "a" is invisible, btw) thanks for the compliment, but remember, i'm only 28... > who's Sauron? ;-) some friends and i played this character-assigning game and one of my friends-- one of the smartest people i know, btw-- claimed sauron right away. i don't think anyone on the list is evil and nebulous enough to be the dark lord, nor evil and sneaky enough to be saruman. FEGSTOCK-- i hope to make it there for at least the cruicial day, as part of a 5 week pan-usa road journey. i'll also be stopping in chicago and corvallis, and sundry places in california, and the southwest, and as always would love to meet fegs! =b np: RH 6/3/97 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:16:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Ron Sexsmith Lobsterman said: >(Opinion: I think sometimes that albums >produced by Mitchell Froom are so filled with odd percussion and keyboard >bits, that the artists main talents are relegated to the sonic back-burner) Oh, ABSOLUTELY. That goddamn cardboard-box percussion sound! Froom bugs the hell out of me, especially because he produces so many artists whom I admire. Jeez, I hate the things he's done to groups like Suzanne Vega (arrrgh -- guess that's going to continue for awhile), Richard Thompson, American Music Club, Los Lobos and even Costello. Eb, whose taste finds Sexsmith's presentation just too darn mild ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:42:23 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: Ron Sexsmith On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Eb wrote: > Oh, ABSOLUTELY. That goddamn cardboard-box percussion sound! Froom bugs the > hell out of me, especially because he produces so many artists whom I > admire. Jeez, I hate the things he's done to groups like Suzanne Vega > (arrrgh -- guess that's going to continue for awhile), Richard Thompson, > American Music Club, Los Lobos and even Costello. Not to come running to Mitchell's defense, but don't you find it odd that you have a categorical aversion to a person whose work the artists themselves seem to be quite fond of. Or is it more of a corporate decision? Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:22:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Mr. Vega >On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Eb wrote: > >> Oh, ABSOLUTELY. That goddamn cardboard-box percussion sound! Froom bugs >>>>the hell out of me, especially because he produces so many artists whom >>I >> admire. Jeez, I hate the things he's done to groups like Suzanne Vega >> (arrrgh -- guess that's going to continue for awhile), Richard Thompson, >> American Music Club, Los Lobos and even Costello. > >Not to come running to Mitchell's defense, but don't you find it odd that >you have a categorical aversion to a person whose work the artists >themselves seem to be quite fond of. Yes, I do find it odd! I wonder why those folks keep working with him (though I'm not a Los Lobos fan, actually). I did like Froom's recent production of Cibo Matto, but then that's the type of artist he SHOULD be producing -- a group based in RHYTHM, not songwriting and melody. I was listening to the surprisingly good new Michael Penn album the other day, and thinking how much worse the record would have been if Froom had produced it (instead of Brendan O'Brien). The sound is right up Froom's alley, except that O'Brien doesn't ruin it with production gimmickry. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:33:34 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Fegs of the Ring On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, The Great Quail wrote: > Eddie submitted an interesting idea, casting the Feglist into the Lord of > the Rings. Being a Tolkien fan from birth (my mother read the Hobbit to > her tummy for nine months) I am compelled to respond with my own > interpretations and additions. With all due respect to Eddie, here we go: > > > woj, of course, is the frodo of the list > > > bayard is gandalf > > > john is elrond > > John LittleJohn I would put as Gimli, full of skewed, baiting "fuck youse > guys" humor. Plus how can you resist casting a guy named "LittleJohn" as > a dwarf? > > > tracy and aidan are galadriel and celeborn > > > sydney of the wasps and mr. hedblade are merry and pippin > > > .chris is bombadil > > > and the quail is obviously master samwise I think that the guy who actually started it meant Der Lobstermann when he said "John". I remember him mentioning something about Jonesy and a tape or something. I also confess my ignorance to what all of these names such as "Happigams" mean, and am in fact smug about it. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:00:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Refugees on 45 Subject: FegStock > > so y'all coming? the only one i know of for sure from outside the > region is .chris. indeed, i am planning and even budgeting for the matter. Are there any interested in a carpool sort of gig from the bay areaish regions and slightly west of that?? get in touch with me off list if you might want to drive up together. > > by the way, glen, did you read that note in the ava about the lady suing > aaron neville for delivering a psychic shock to her forehead? too > funny! this cannnot go unexplained; please explain. over, .chris ------------------------------ From: "Percy Thrillington" Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:58:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Bumbershoot/FegFest '97 On 13 Jul 97 at 13:38, Eddie Tews said something to the effect of: > so y'all coming? the only one i know of for sure from outside the > region is .chris. > Actually, my girlfriend and I are both planning to be there. We have to go to a wedding in Sacramento on Sunday, so we're probably going to fly in and out of Sacramento Airport. Right now, I'm just searching for the best deal on airfare. I'll let you know more when I find out more. > by the way, glen, did you read that note in the ava about the lady > suing aaron neville for delivering a psychic shock to her forehead? > too funny! I did and I thought it was hilarious :) Thanks again for putting me on AVA's mailing list. I truly appreciate it. --g ********************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen ********************* ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: RH music videos, dammit! Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:14:57 -0800 My curiosity about Robyn Hitchcock's videos (expressed in one vehemently ignored post) has been re-ignited by James Isaacs' description of his first encounter with the Man, on MTV. He described seeing a video for Madonna of the Wasps, where there was a fish floating above Robyn's head. Has anyone else seen a music video with Robyn in it? How many are in existence? And how the heck can I get MuchMusic to play 'em? Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: T-shirt idea! Of course! Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:14:58 -0800 Why don't we... Why don't we... Why don't we... **************** PUT THE FEGMANIAX MAP ON THE T-SHIRT! **************** Yes! Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Re: Old Thread/Muzak Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:14:57 -0800 > To add to an old thread, I had an amazing discovery in a Hardee's in > Centreville, AL (Hardee's is a fast food franchise, similar to McDonald's; > it even has an apostrophe in its name). I was in line and heard "The Bells > of Rhymmney" over the speakers. Flabbergasted, I listened for a couple of > minutes to make sure I was hearing correctly...and I was. As an added > bonus, I was able to piss off the cashier by just standing there ignoring > her, one of the few pleasures I take in life (I'm able to do this because I > was once one myself). Isn't it more likely that it's the Byrds version you heard? Hell, they played "Mr. Tambourine Man" (the album) straight through in a video store I was in. Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Re: could someone please clarify? Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:14:57 -0800 > Looks pretty clear already. Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Re: ...Robyn wants to know... Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:14:57 -0800 My first Robyn Hitchcock album was a battered old LP of "Fegmania" from my local library. Being short on cash and desperate for something to listen to, I picked it out of a catalogue rampant with New Kids On the Block, Kenny G, and Celine Dion: "...and the Egyptians?! Hmmm..." I remember a strong sensation of being at a cross-roads, perhaps a premonition that this album could change my life forever. At first unsettled by the Brit-pop-y assault of "Egyptian Cream", songs like "Another Bubble", "My Wife & My Dead Wife", and "Strawberry Mind" started to get stuck in my head. I was given "Queen Elvis" on my birthday (I don't know where my aunt found it, I haven't seen it in stores since), but my experience with Robyn Hitchcock tapered off until I joined the fegmaniax mailing list with a message entitled "Introducing - me!" and a request for album recommendations. To my astonishment, a kind list member sent me "Element of Light" and "Eye" free, and threw in a lengthy compilation tape! This was my first encounter with the evangelizing nature of Robyn Hitchcock fans. After that, of course, it all went downhill. I wore out those tapes and bought all of his other albums, one by one, in a rapidly accelerating progression. The closest I've come to being at a concert of his was when he played Vancouver on Nov. 5, 1996. I worked hard to try to get there, but being a Vancouver island resident it was no use. The concert was broadcast on CBC radio, however, and I alleviated some of the pain by becoming the worldwide trademeister for the concert. Having almost run out of albums, I now fill the time until he plays in Vancouver again by trading bootlegs and trying to convert my friends - by force if necessary, but mainly by stealth and cunning. I have a theory that once Robyn Hitchcock fans run out of music to listen to, they must survive by living vicariously through new initiates, vampire-like. Those free tapes are no longer a mystery. Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ From: Terry_Linnig@hccompare.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 18:56:06 cst Subject: Re: RH music videos, dammit! Going back to the days when I counted down the minutes to MTV's 120 minutes, I remember several video's: Balloon Man, So You Think You're In Love, Raymond Chandler Evening, Madonna of the Wasps and Heaven. Guntarski ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: RH music videos, dammit! Author: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) at smtpgate Date: 7/14/97 6:24 PM My curiosity about Robyn Hitchcock's videos (expressed in one vehemently ignored post) has been re-ignited by James Isaacs' description of his first encounter with the Man, on MTV. He described seeing a video for Madonna of the Wasps, where there was a fish floating above Robyn's head. Has anyone else seen a music video with Robyn in it? How many are in existence? And how the heck can I get MuchMusic to play 'em? Daniel Saunders "They say that I'm weird, and disinfectant is the only thing I drink Well, cleanliness of the soul is more important, don't you think?" - Robyn Hitchcock, Underwater Moonlight ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:26:57 From: Greg Landry Subject: RE: Ron Sexsmith (no RH) >Who is Ron Sexsmith?? Canadian singer/songwriter, he opened up for Robyn >on the Canadian portion of the fall 1994 US tour. He has a beautiful >voice, almost otherworldly. I was fortunate enough to hear RS open for E. Costello last year in Chicago. Purchased his CD ("Ron Sexmith") at the show, and it has been an on-and-off staple in the cd changer in my car ever since. I particularly like: There's a Rythm Lebanon, Tennessee and Galbraith Street I find it interesting that Ron has opened for two of my favorite artists. Greg Landry Morris, IL U.S.A. http://www.uti.com/~pokey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Showed up late, still we played Bert's Bar, then the hurricane came . . . so it ain't there now. SeAsHeLLs 4 haLLiE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .