From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #157 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 157 Monday July 7 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Re: eating anything that isn't diseased Re: Dreams... Obsession? Re: Favourite spoken word RE: The last 32 digests and an endorsement (long) Re: Dreams... Obsession? Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. Oh, almost forgot! RE: The last 32 digests and an endorsement (long) Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Re: Bad Robyn Songs Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them Eve Re: Elvis having too much fun on stage Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. zapruder film Eve Re: Really Bad Songs (0% RH - 100% Song 2) Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them Re: Feg Digest V5 #156 Re: Bad Robyn Songs Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Re: Eve Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them robyns bad songs ------------------------------ From: "Bayard Catron" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:29:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) regarding the "bad guy" of "it's a wonderful life," eb asserts: > Oh, don't be ridiculous. Maybe he might just have been, I don't know, > ARRESTED? :P you must have been watching much more closely than was i.. as far as I can remember, he worked his evil completely legally (at least during the sequences when stewart's character existed.) as such he was only guilty of being a bitter, cranky, confrontational guy, and much as they might like to, a community can't convict a man of that... ...right? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: eating anything that isn't diseased Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" > a question about the spoken chain tape: is it ok to record segments > that aren't on a live tape? for example, the intro to Heaven from the > FEGMANIA! reiussue ("this is a floating...a floating cathedral prairie > song.") might just be my favorite. but i suspect it would be considered > piracy to use it. I love that clip! I turned it into a computer sound file. I wish I could say I use it frequently on my mac (ie a startup sound or empty trash sound) but as anyone who's ever tried that knows, it becomes very irritating very quickly. I could send it to anyone who's interested. Who's starting the chain? I could, if nobody else is going to. I've got a 120 minute Sony HiFi tape kicking around, and some sound clips I'd like to include. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Dreams... Obsession? Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" I dreamt they played a Robyn Hitchcock song during my grade 11 graduation ceremonies, which are even in real life quite a lavish affair, since I go to a private school. I think it was Queen Elvis, because I was worrying what my classmates would think about the "german leather" verse. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Favourite spoken word Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" > What are they from? (I know the 3rd is from the Vancouver RealAudio show, > which I have, but I don't recall hearing it, so whoever dubbed me a copy may > have shorted me a bit..?) > >"...and then they'll have the assassination of president pumpkin..." Not sure. From some compilation tape, probably UC or UP. > >"...this song is called 'through the ribcage, like the alien, in the > >beautiful scottish highlands in spring'" I believe this is from a mountain stage concert, right before they performed Driving Aloud. > >"You've been a beautifully put together crowd and I hope nothing > >*gruesome* happens to you on the way home..." This is from the middle of I Got a Message For You, the last song of the concert, when he suddenly drops into what I assume is a Brian Ferrhy (sic?) voice. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:56:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Fountain Subject: RE: The last 32 digests and an endorsement (long) As a lurker whose only attempted (and obviously failed) post was in response to a query about Game Theory, and with this post will more than likely slide back below the slimy surface... Top 5, I think (in no particular order): Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid, Brazil, 12 Monkeys, Raising Arizona, Lawrence Of Arabia For CD's & cassettes: Alphabetically, by artist (last name if needed), compilations at end in alphabetical order by title. My librarian wife has finally conviced me that numbers precede the entire alphabet for these things too. For vynil: Alphabetically clumped together with solo efforts and derivative bands (Steve Kilbey, Hex, Marty Willson-Piper, etc. with the Church; David J., Jazz Butcher, Tones On Tail, Peter Murphy, Love & Rockets, etc. with Bauhaus, and so on. Why two different systems I'm not sure. ... Smiths, Soft Boys, Soft Cell... ... Barbara Higbie, Robin Hitchcock, Robin Holcomb... I would love a copy of one of the West Coast shows, the reviews made me yearn for home (originally from Eugene, wife from Tacoma) - I can picture the venues. I have only 2 or 3 things of interest to any traders, but I'm willing. E-mail me if you are kind and willing enough to tape something - I also like the traditional (at least for me) idea of giving a blank in exchange for something recorded. Send two tapes, get one back with music on it - simple, and appropriate monetarily I believe. Have seen Robyn once at the EMU on the U of Oregon campus a few years ago (maybe in support of Eye?). Unfortunately, both he and the audience seemed tired and uninspired. I'd love to see him on a good night, but Chicago on Wednesday night 3 hrs. away and me with work at 6:30 a.m. was a bad combination this time through. First buy with own dough: Styx - The Grand Illusion, which got heavy play during my junior high years. I will admit that I had a Bay City Rollers album I obtained in a trade in the 5th grade for some pencils with NFL team names imprinted on them. They were all the rage, people were stealing them out of each others desks. I was very disappointed to learn that Rebel Rebel was a cover. I think the shirt thing is ironic - Robyn finally comes up with something other than a concert shirt, so one is created for him. Not throwing cold water on the idea - have at it, but count me out. What happened to the Cat's Cradle tape tree? It seems to be dead or dormant, as I and my branch both have no idea what has happened. To add my 2 pesos - concert info and reviews are great, trivia and Robyn info., band recommendations, that's what I look at, though I must admit that I find some of the posts having nothing to do with any of the above grabbing my attention. And finally a long dead issue, but I just got it - thanks to Bayard. Glass Flesh is great. There are several tracks worthy of praise - but I would like to comment in particular on Vic Chesnutt's contribution, which is as usual for him a near destruction of the original (any of you who have his cover of 'It's The End Of T he World...' will know what I'm talking about), but it's interesting none the less, and despite my disdain for the dance-mix-ness of it, I find myself liking that track too. Congratulations and thanks for all your work Bayard. Steve Fountain Stranded in Central Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:04:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Dreams... Obsession? On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Daniel Saunders wrote: > I dreamt they played a Robyn Hitchcock song during my grade 11 > graduation ceremonies, which are even in real life quite a lavish affair, > since I go to a private school. I think it was Queen Elvis, because I was > worrying what my classmates would think about the "german leather" verse. That would be "Flesh Cartoons" that so bamboozled your classmates, son :). I've had a few dreams where Robyn showed up but actually they weren't that interesting, belive it or not (I think the last time I dreamed about Robyn I didn't actually get to talk to him, and I remember it was maddening the way he'd sort of show up and vanish as soon as I got the chance to approach him :)). Those who remember the last time this thread showed up will remember my most bizarre celebrity dream, which I will not go into here. Suffice it to say that it was narrated by Groucho Marx.......:) Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:22:23 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) >regarding the "bad guy" of "it's a wonderful life," eb asserts: > >> Oh, don't be ridiculous. Maybe he might just have been, I don't know, >> ARRESTED? :P > >you must have been watching much more closely than was i.. as far as >I can remember, he worked his evil completely legally (at least >during the sequences when stewart's character existed.) I believe that the "bad guy" stole about $8000 from poor stammering Jimmy. I forget the exact way he stole it, because I haven't seen the film in awhile (imagine that...heh). I think the money was sitting in an envelope in Jimmy's office or something, and the banker came by when Jimmy wasn't there and lifted it. Anyone else want to clarify? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:25:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. > Los Straitjackets also does this. I was thrilled to receive a >response to an email I sent them last summer! (They answered within a >couple days as i recall) I've gotten email from Roger McGuinn and Pere Ubu's David Thomas. The Thomas ones were reasonably long, too. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:25:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Oh, almost forgot! Billy Zoom (of X) also! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:29:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: The last 32 digests and an endorsement (long) >... Smiths, Soft Boys, Soft Cell... >... Barbara Higbie, Robin Hitchcock, Robin Holcomb... Weird -- I never knew ANYONE who liked Robin Holcomb before, and now here's the SECOND person (besides me) on the list who has her albums. Wacky. Don't even know who Barbara Higbie is, though. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:40:30 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. Oh yeah! As though many of you cared (and maybe you do!) I've corresponded quite a few times with Richard Pini of ElfQuest fame (via Email). Great guy!! LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you been exceptionally bad lately? Come serve your penance at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542/penance1.html You'll never commit THAT sin again! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Eb wrote: > >regarding the "bad guy" of "it's a wonderful life," eb asserts: > > >you must have been watching much more closely than was i.. as far as > >I can remember, he worked his evil completely legally (at least > >during the sequences when stewart's character existed.) > > I believe that the "bad guy" stole about $8000 from poor stammering Jimmy. > I forget the exact way he stole it, because I haven't seen the film in > awhile (imagine that...heh). I think the money was sitting in an envelope > in Jimmy's office or something, and the banker came by when Jimmy wasn't > there and lifted it. Anyone else want to clarify? Uncle Billy wrapped the $8000 in a newspaper and old man Potter picked it up not knowing there was money in it. He found the money a bit later and got an evil look on his face when he realized what it was all about. I don't know about 1947, but fifty years later it's a crime in the state of New York to find that kind of money and not make an attempt to return it or report it to the proper authorities. Old man Potter's crime was a passive one. That's all. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Bad Robyn Songs I originally started writing this just to Susan and then found it was generic, if not entirely of general interest. On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > > Yes me too Ben, I always thought he was imitating Neil from "The Young > Ones". Err... Me, too. OK, I lied. I never made the connection. But it makes perfect sense and I liked the song anyway. > Worst tune..... > > Wouldn't be any on that album actually. Probably "Legalized Murder". > Lovely sentiment, awful song. And of course the woefully embarassing (yet > curiously endearing) "Midnight Fish". Hrrmmmm.....That's all I can think > of off the top of my head. "Balloon Man" sometimes really really gets on > my nerves as well, but not because it's awful per se, just because that's > the only Robyn song anyone outside this lovely community seems to know I'd agree about Legalized Murder... at least that it's not very good. I also don't like Bright Fresh Flower. There's one other that I think is a bit off and dischordant, but I don't remember at the moment. But the fact is that I like all of the songs regardless and I've grown to love many of those I didn't like at all upon first hearing. Balloon Man is and has always been one of my favorites. It's bouncy and quite silly and contains the most lovely line of all 'And it rained like a slow divorce'. I once got into an argument on a newsgroup about Robyn. I think it was alt.music.lyrics. Someone claimed that he was the worst songwriter of all time. This person tried to argue that while he was a great musician and singer, he was couldn't write his way out of a paper bag. My view has always been quite the opposite. He's an amazing songwriter and a very good guitar player and all around quite good musician and most of the time a pleasant vocalist. But he's a songwriter to me. > P.S. Stop ragging on "Superman" :) I love Superman. And while I, at first, thought it was a drunken outtake, I later came to understand and adore it. I dare you to write a better song in two time signatures at once. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 SydneyC33@aol.com wrote: > I'm with you on "American Pie", Susan. Of course I might feel differently > had I not been subjected to it eighty zillion times at a young, > impressionable age...but probably not. :) I've probably heard American Pie less than two dozen times all the way through in my life. THat doesn't mean I still don't hate it. I do. It's just not musically interesting. However, I love the frantic talk Penn gives in Penn & Teller Get Killed while trying to save his skin and teach someone with a bad accent to tell the difference between Bs and Vs ("Took my CHEVY to the LEVY' Listen to my Bs and my VEES!"). That's beautiful. > Jimmy Buffet is just fine in my book, That's kind of vile. > but I haven't been able to stomach > *anything* by Cat Stevens ever since he came out and said that Salman Rushdie > should be put to death for writing the Satanic Verses. I'm generally pretty > good at respecting others' convictions, but come on... Isn't that a little shallow? We're talking about a fellow who renounces not only Salman Rushdie, but also his own work. > Isn't it amazing how an artist's > social, political, or religious views, or overall personality--once you get > to know him/her--can color your taste for their music. Just goes to > show...it's not just their wares, it's the entire package. I'm exactly the opposite. I like Robyn Hitchcock and I mostly enjoy Billy Bragg, but I'm nothing like their kind of Socialist and think it all comes from a ridiculous British class system that we've never really had in this country. Yeah, people are going hungry and others have more than they need. That sucks, but it beats the alternative. We are not the Chinese. An artist's political views do not necessarily enhance or detract from the beauty of the art he creates. What I get from Sydney's statement is that those who have ideas, ideals and beliefs too different repulsive to her own cannot produce useful, beautiful things... or at least that she cannot enjoy them. That says 'intolerance' to me. It's also pretty shallow. Just my belligerent, angry view. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:45:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Eve Has anyone looked at the package for the new Peter Gabriel CD-ROM, Eve? You'll almost SWEAR it's a Robyn Hitchcock album cover! Really! Check it out, if you haven't seen it. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Elvis having too much fun on stage On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, LSDiamond wrote: > Catchy subject, eh? Hey, you opened it didn't you??? I open everything. > Okay, get this straight.. I can't *stand* Elvis... Don't like him... Or > his music, either... But once, about, ohhh... 4 or 5 years ago, I heard a > version of a song in which he *completely* screwed up onstage... He's > stoned or drunk, singing about ahh... "when i walk into your parlor, you're > missing all of your hair" where it should say something like "I miss you > cause you're not there"... I know i'm wrong here, but it's about the > funniest thing I've heard.. Wasn't this a rendition of "My Way" in which The *snicker* King spoke, "The stage is bare... and I'm standing there... without any hair.. no no no." That's what I recall. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Lurkers of the world...Unite and take over. > I've gotten email from Roger McGuinn and Pere Ubu's David Thomas. The > Thomas ones were reasonably long, too. :) Viva Saturn's Steve Roback and someone from Katrina and the Waves are pretty prompt too... (and I've heard that Mike Nesmith is pretty active too...he's got a great site at www.videoranch.com) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:58:45 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Mae LSDiamond wedi dweud: >>Okay, get this straight.. I can't *stand* Elvis... Don't like him... Or >>his music, either... But once, about, ohhh... 4 or 5 years ago, I heard a >>version of a song in which he *completely* screwed up onstage... He's >>stoned or drunk, singing about ahh... "when i walk into your parlor, >>you're missing all of your hair" where it should say something like "I >>miss you cause you're not there"... I know i'm wrong here, but it's about >>the funniest thing I've heard..<< ah yes... it was a b-side, IIRC - the weird outtake of "Are you lonesone tonight?" with the line "do you look in the mirror and wish you had hair", followed by an "oh lawdy" or two and then the king losing it completely. His best recording ever, by far! >I thought "Happy Phantom" was on Kate Bush's The Dreaming. Oops, my mistake. ;P Nah... that's "Watching you without me" >:p James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:10:02 -0700 Subject: zapruder film >> What's "Suite Madame Blue"??? Styx? >Maybe he meant to say "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" by Crosby, Stills and >Nash. or maybe he meant Suite Sister Mary, by queensryche. no, really? Madame Blue wasn't very popular in your town? we used to have a radio station that had you send in your five favorite songs, and they would count them up and play back the Top 1000 every new year's (it was rigged though: Number of the Beast always ended up at #666, and Land of 1,000 dances always ended up at #1,000.) anyway, Madame Blue was always in the top 50 or so. >Random memory/observation...When I was growing up in the late '70s, I >remember that were three "holy" songs on rock radio -- three songs >where it was like an universally acknowledged "event" every time they >were played: "Stairway to Heaven," "Freebird" and..."Smoke on the >Water." I think it's intriguing that "Stairway" and "Freebird" are just >as "holy" today, and yet "Smoke on the Water" is now sort of an >also-ran. Why is that? that's funny. i always loved led zeppelin, but i couldn't for the life of me understand why everybody would just drop everything and assume the lotus position every time that song came on. but i figured that, if i wanted to be cool --and who doesn't-- then i'd better learn to like it. consequently, i like it a lot more now than i would have given a "natural" listening environment. but i still think it's one of their weaker songs. maybe the reason Smoke on the Water dissipated is because it's the best song of the three. instead of talking about the worst songs of all time, which is not only masochistic, but depressing as well, (i get nervous that whenever i see someone slagging one of my favorite robyn songs --Superman, Atom Bowl, Sleeping Knights-- that the next time i listen, i myself won't like them any more. you can see how malleable i am) why not talk about the funniest songs of all time? my vote would go for either Stuart by the dead milkmen, Anal Injury by lubricated goat, or Every Sperm is Sacred by monty python. (the last including, of course, all the relevant spoken word parts: from the family's discussion of why all the children have to be sold for medical experiments, through to the neighbor couple discussing the superiority of protestantism.) speaking of the dead milkmen, did you know that they are responsible for the lyric, "i saw you naked, you were holding a trout."? now, if someone were to walk up to you and read that back, and it sounded vaguely familiar, but you couldn't quite place it; well, you'd obviously assume that it had been penned by robyn. the tricky question is, which album would you suspect that it came from? it seems to me that if there were and album between GLOBE OF FROGS and QUEEN ELVIS, that that would be the proper choice. several years ago, when i was getting my copy of douglas adams' "Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul," autographed, i asked him if he liked robyn hitchcock. he didn't know what the hell i was talking about. so i told him: british musician, macabre sense of humor, songs about sea food. i think he thought i was stalking him or something, because he looked pretty frightened. the holes in the plot of Face/Off are big enough for terry and mike to each drive a space shuttle through, side by side. quail's defense of quentin was nifty. but i'd like to add a few more thoughts. first, the criterion collection (there he goes again...) laserdisc of Pulp Fiction includes his hour-long interview with charlie rose. you might want to rent it sometime. even if you hate his movies, you'll come away with an appreciation of the person behind the Quentin. his enthusiasm for movies in general is quite charming. second, you'd think that a list composed of music lovers would like quentin just for the way he uses music in his films. i think this is the most innovative feature of his movies. i've even described soundtracks lately (Beautiful Girls comes to mind) as tarantinoesque. daniel saunders fave flicks: The Seven Samurai, Dr. Strangelove, Inherit the Wind, Stop Makind Sense, Lone Star, 12 Monkeys, The City of Lost Children, My Neighbour Totoro, Hard Core Logo, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest randi spiegel's fave flicks: The Philadelphia Story, Much Ado About Nothing (Branagh), Howard's End, Dangerous Liasons, Amadeus, The Princess Bride, Casino, Dogs in Space, Sid and Nancy, Holy Grail Mark Ponder's fave flicks: 1. Casablanca, 2. Nobody's Fool, 3. A Perfect World, 4. The Hustler, 5. Seven..."Best Small Screen Movie: Ken Burns' 'Baseball'" John Tyson Littlejohn's fave flicks: 1. Metropolitan, 2. Searching for Bobby Fischer, 3. Bedazzled, 4. The Ipcress File, 5. Rashomon, 6. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, 7. Peter's Friends, 8. The Seventh Seal, 9. Great Expectations, 10. Babe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:29:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Eve http://www.australian.aust.com/syte/cdreview/cd0517.htm If you're curious about the Robyn/Gabriel connection, check this URL. It shows that Robyn-esque photo. Eb ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" "Hedblade@aol.com" Subject: Re: Really Bad Songs (0% RH - 100% Song 2) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:34:00 -0400 Jay writes (a few days ago now): >Right off the top of my head- > >"Song 2" - Blur >Can this really be the band that made Parklife????? Woo Hoo? More like, Pee >Yoooo! which I couldn't let pass by without comment. Song 2 definitely has to win Drinking Song of the Year, ( undoubtedly a prestigious title). I know it is far from Blur's finest moment but they have always tossed in a few fun songs into their mix and to me Song 2 is an energetic classic in the tradition of the Buzzcocks/early Damned. But the main reason that I feel I have to defend Song 2 is because it has become our house theme song after our house-warming cocktail party when it was played multiple times late in the night to some very 'interesting' dancing all round. As a follow-up, I recorded our answering-machine message with the intro to Song 2 playing in the background as I say something along the lines of: 'Dave, Pete and Andrew aren't in right now but if you need your name and number after the first woo-hoo, we'll get back.....' You kind of have to be there (and possibly Jay and few others wouldn't want to be) but either way, I like it (and the whole new Blur album to for that matter) just fine. Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:22:29 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Capuchin wrote: > I'm exactly the opposite. I like Robyn Hitchcock and I mostly enjoy Billy > Bragg, but I'm nothing like their kind of Socialist and think it all comes > from a ridiculous British class system that we've never really had in this > country. RH, a socialist? BB, yes, but I have always assumed that RH was an anarcho-syndicalist-surrealist-dadaist sort of person .... > Yeah, people are going hungry and others have more than they > need. Oh, this is different from a class system, is it? When was the last time a non-millionaire became President? When was the last time a woman became President? (Margaret Thatcher was a grocer's daughter, and she became Prime Minister). > That sucks, but it beats the alternative. We are not the Chinese. Are you not? And there was I thinking that the USA was a multi-racial society ... <:-) Whoops, politics! - hssmrg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:04:18 +0100 From: fiona zinovieff Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #156 Being new to this I'm not sure if I should introduce myself, dip a toe in the water or just jump right in - >Okay, here's an interesting thought--has anyone ever had a dream with Robyn >in it I'm glad I'm not alone and LS Diamond has dreams to keep her/him(?) awake too. I had a recurring dream in which I met Robyn at a railway station and he asked me to look after three large trunks. I waited some time and he didn't come back so I lifted the lids to see what I was waiting for. The first trunk was full of childrens ice skates-brown leather ones like they used to hire out at Richmond icerink, I opened the second one and it was filled with climbing ropes all cut up into short lengths. I then started to open the third trunk and I wake up - Does anybody know what was in the third trunk? I don't think it was prawns cos there was no smell.......... ....................................................................And he didn't have a weird accent at all!!! We recently had a house fire and lost everything. I have been buying CD's to replace many of our old favourites but I cannot order Globe of Frogs at our record store - is it currently available? and if so on what lable? I got hold of a CD of EYE but I was disapointed to find that the story that appeared on the record sleeve is missing - or was I just cheated? byee, F zed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:31:27 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Bad Robyn Songs On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Capuchin wrote: > > Worst tune..... > > > I'd agree about Legalized Murder... at least that it's not very good. I > also don't like Bright Fresh Flower... I like "Legalized Murder" OK - It almost made a recent mix tape; but it was shoved out by "Bright Fresh Flower", which I actively like, even though (maybe because) it is musically a lot like "The Way Love Used to be" by The Kinks > I love Superman. And while I, at first, thought it was a drunken outtake, > I later came to understand and adore it. I understand it, but I have very little feeling about it at all. I certainly don't adore it. Then again, it's only the second worst song off 'Queen Elvis'. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:05:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) The $8k was accidentally given to potter by uncle billy. keeping it was immoral in the extreme, but not something he could have been hauled off to jail for. apologies to all for the waste of bandwidth, but this is a fascinating film that was completely lost on audiences when it came out, and some people even today dismiss it as an overly sweet christmas movie when in reality it is dark and complex. i'll say no more! =b On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Eb wrote: > >regarding the "bad guy" of "it's a wonderful life," eb asserts: > > > >> Oh, don't be ridiculous. Maybe he might just have been, I don't know, > >> ARRESTED? :P > > > >you must have been watching much more closely than was i.. as far as > >I can remember, he worked his evil completely legally (at least > >during the sequences when stewart's character existed.) > > I believe that the "bad guy" stole about $8000 from poor stammering Jimmy. > I forget the exact way he stole it, because I haven't seen the film in > awhile (imagine that...heh). I think the money was sitting in an envelope > in Jimmy's office or something, and the banker came by when Jimmy wasn't > there and lifted it. Anyone else want to clarify? > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:49:51 -0700 From: Debora Subject: Re: Eve Eb wrote: > If you're curious about the Robyn/Gabriel connection, check this URL. > It shows that Robyn-esque photo. > > Eb That photo reminds me of a show Robyn did in the early '90's at the Avalon, in Boston. They had a huge globe with those lightning pulses inside. Robyn kept referring to the gigantic brain that subtly controlled us all - wish I could remember exactly what he said or had a tape of it; was anyone else there? Debora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:22:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them I get a real kick out of watching individuals, especially the entertainers be they actors, musicians, producers, directors, writers etc. talking about the poor sick. They talk about what should be done to help the helpless right before they jump in their limos and speed off to their multi acre estates in northern california or the ones who talk about the teribble things we are doing to the enviroment and then get in gas guzzling internal combustion high dollar euro-pocket rockets or hop aboard a big jet airplane on their way to some film festival. On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Capuchin wrote: > > Yeah, people are going hungry and others have more than they > > need Does anyone actually have more than they need? I along with my family have been struggling financially for as long as I can remember, but at no time do I remember my father or mother talking about the "evil selfish rich", or expecting anyone to give them a handout. We grew up as the stereo typical white trash, ie.. no college low paying un-skilled labor type jobs. Most but not all, at least in North America, of the people who are poor are that way out of choice. Often lazy hostile individuals who believe someone somewhere owes them something. I hear people talk about people going hungry in the US, but when was that last time you saw photos of American children with bloated bellies and flies crawling all over their faces. We see it some other countries, but this has nothing to do with socialism, capitalism, or a free market, it is from lack of democracy and free elections. I believe capitalism and a free market supported by a democracy of free elections is the only answer. Look at the countries where these things are not. These countries are not being flooded with people fleeing the oppressions of the United States of America, but the US is being flooded with people fleeing the oppresive regimes of their former countries. > Oh, this is different from a class system, is it? When was the last time a > non-millionaire became President? When was the last time a woman > became President? (Margaret Thatcher was a grocer's > daughter, and she became Prime Minister). I do not believe Bill Clinton was a millionaire when he became president. He (or his old lady) is worth a million now, but that happened after he was president. Was Jimmy Carter a millionaire? I know he was worth a lot from all those peanuts, but a millionaire? Were Gerald Ford or Richard Nixon millionaires. Many of the previous Presidents were retired lifetime military men. I don't know of anyone that has has retired from the military, that was not rich when they went in, as a millionaire except from the USSR, Mother China and the likes. The USA is not perfect, no place is, but it is the BEST country on the planet. Regards, Gregory S. Shell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:06:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bad Songs/Baddies that Sing Them >Often lazy >hostile individuals who believe someone somewhere owes them something. Heh heh...lookie, the Republican theme song. ;) Let's not take this powder-keg discussion any further though, K? :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:35:18 From: Michael Hooker Subject: robyns bad songs hello, when ever i hear the beginning of superman, i think, boy, i hate this song. then it gets going and i always enjoy it. songs i never enjoy are furry green atom bowl, mellow together, and sleeping knights of jesus. fuuny how three of his worst songs are on one of my favorite albums. i only listem to it on tape, so i dont even chance hearing those 3 songs. we can also be thankful waffle head is the last song on its cd, i just pop in a new disc. taking the bad with the good, Mike Hooker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .