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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- SeaTac II-tape Re: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? tapes trades bad Robyn songs Tori and a balloon Re: Tori and a balloon Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Rambling tape plea AMC/Stewart movies Re: Rambling tape plea Re: Elvis having too much fun on stage Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) Babble, Burble, Banter, Bruhaha, Bolderdash and Ballyhoo, it's only talk.... ------------------------------ From: oskjefte@online.no Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:22:21 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: SeaTac II-tape I'm told that there's a DAT-version around. Please email me privately if YOU got a copy to trade. See ya Ole **************************************************************************** Next song is the hitsingle of 1989 - It's "Eat the fucking rich"....Now, wait a minute...It's "Untitled" ( Michael Stipe introducing an early version of Pop Song '89 at Bren Events Center, Irvine, CA 14.11.87 ) **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:36:13 +0000 From: am@enterprise.net (Aidan) > I know I've got a Hitchcock article around here somewhere that >says he dropped out of art school after a year or so, but then again (1) >I've got articles that include all sorts of inaccurate information, (2) I >can't find it, and (3) it isn't in the feg archives. The _PVs_ archives, >OTOH, include some really high-quality color Xeroxes - I mean you can >almost see the depth of the penstrokes - of Hitchcock's student >sketchbooks, and if I recall correctly I was told that they date from his >art-school days and that Hitchcock explicitly refused to give Aidan >Merritt permission to reprint them. If anyone wants copies of these - and will give _REALLY_ firm assurances not to reprint or redistribute them - write to me (I sent scans of a couple of them to Woj a while back, but don't know if he got them). No promises, mind. If I feel like it, I might retype in Robyn's 250-word story (not one of his better efforts - curiosity value only), which I suspect may be the oldest of his works aside from 'The Unpleasant Stain' still around. Aidan 'washed up legend' Merritt ------------------------------------ Boring Sig File bit - Please stop sending mail to the PVs PO box coz it's expired PVs book is 3/4 done and might actually be appearing this summer (only 2 years late) Please all go out and buy BOP's new single Teenage Sex/16 Years Old out now on Future Legend Aidan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:15:01 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:10 LSDiamond pondered... > Do 3" CDs play in the CD Rom drive? Ours has a pretty large hole in > the middle.. I'd love to see one.. bet they're cute. Youbetcha! Look for the smaller circle (sort of concentric to the outside circle) that's inscribed into the plastic of the cupholder...er CD tray. See. That's about three inches across, right? The secret is that CDs play from the middle out - so in theory you could make them any size that fits in the player. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:18:43 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: tapes trades fegs, i'm interested in trading with anyone who recorded any of robyn's recent shows or radio appearances. my tape list is on the web and, though not completely current, at least the robyn stuff is updated. if you're interested, take a look at and drop me a line off-list. +w ps. although it's sorta a novelty song as well, "i got a message for you" is arguably robyn's worst -- or, rather, the one i dislike the most. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:12:34 -0700 (PDT) From: misplaced joan of arc Subject: bad Robyn songs I think Wafflehead is, in my opinion, the worst. I never make it past the first 20 seconds or so. Robyn sounds like a rapist. The Sleeping Nights of Jesus earned some redemption when I read somewhere that the Replacements used to cover it. I think Bauhaus' cover of Ziggy Stardust is a prime contender for the worst song ever. And, to diverge slightly, how about the worst album covers? I think that Richard Thompson's album artwork is consistently embarassing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:22:01 +0700 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Tori and a balloon TGQ (all praise!) ventured: >Oh, yes, just a little RH so you don't think I am totally wasting your >time. Yesterday I was listening to Tori Amos' "Under the Pink" album. >During the song "Happy Phantom," I had something of a revelation - she's >Robyn's "dead wife," from "My Wife and My Dead Wife!" you sure that was Under the Pink you were listening to? That song's on Little Earthquakes... Our lady of toast declared: >"Balloon Man" was released *both* as a CD3 and a CD5. Since the covers are >identical except for size, I've always assumed the songs are too. The songs are identical except in size? Is one a dance mix? James ("one Welsh rarebit, please - hold the cheese") PS - which one has the bigger cover, the CD3 or the CD5? With Robyn, anything is possible... James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:52:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Tori and a balloon >TGQ (all praise!) ventured: >>Oh, yes, just a little RH so you don't think I am totally wasting your >>time. Yesterday I was listening to Tori Amos' "Under the Pink" album. >>During the song "Happy Phantom," I had something of a revelation - she's >>Robyn's "dead wife," from "My Wife and My Dead Wife!" > >you sure that was Under the Pink you were listening to? That song's on >Little Earthquakes... I thought "Happy Phantom" was on Kate Bush's The Dreaming. Oops, my mistake.... ;P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) > I'd gladly dig up Rear Window, Vertigo and a bunch of other Jimmy flicks, > but you know, I have NEVER understood what is so great about It's a > Wonderful Life. What use is a big sappy feel-good picture if the bad guy > gets off scot-free? Screw that! :P yeah, they should have at least blown him up, or thrown him off a building, or hit him in the stomach with a missile, or eviscerated him, or immolated him-- that would have been awesome! best of all, then it would be just like every other movie! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 11:09:32 -0400 From: biggles Subject: Rambling tape plea Hello All, Graham's plea for Robyn tapes has prompted me to make one of my own. It's strange that in all the time I've been coveting the live tapes mentioned here, it's never occurred to me to just ask politely. So, here goes: Is anyone else willing to copy tapes in exchange for blank tapes, postage, and the warm gratitude of a fellow feg? I do have one half-hour interview from 1995 in New Haven, CT, with solo acoustic performances of "City of Shame" and "I Something You", but I'm sure better versions exist. I'd especially like to get ahold of some of the more recent solo stuff with "Chinese Bones" in the set. Ive been trying to figure this out on guitar since I saw him play it at the Iron Horse last fall, but I'm thwarted by the arrangement on the CD every time (It could make me psychotic, and I might not make an ideal husband or wife!) I could also offer to send along a copy of an illustration I did for my portfolio recently featuring Mr Hitchcock. I had offered it up as possible T-shirt artwork, before we decided to use artwork from the Man himself. Actually, this is an electronic file, so I could send it to anyone who would like it, although I'm kinda new at this stuff and it might take a few tries. Finally, I'll volunteer in advance for the next tape tree. I've got a nice dubbing deck at work, and can run off delicious analog copies all day long. Although the boss is a selfish bastard who fritters away the profits on idle pastimes with his shiftless friends, I've been dealing with him for as long as I've been self-employed so I'm sure he won't mind. Thanks, Biggles,who sings along with Furry Green Atom Bowl,Mellow Together,and Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus with relish and a slice of cheese. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:51:26 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: AMC/Stewart movies I see there is a Jimmy Stewart marathon on AMC. That's not odd considering he was a great actor and died a couple of days ago. BUT I looked in TV Guide and there it was: Jimmy Stewart, all day long - it must have been planned for weeks in advance. That makes me wonder if Bob Dorian was behind this "untimely death". JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:59:33 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Rambling tape plea On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, biggles wrote: > (It > could make me psychotic, and I might not make an ideal husband or wife!) I hope that was intentional. It's funny whether it was or not. -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 13:37:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re: Elvis having too much fun on stage >From: LSDiamond >Okay, get this straight.. I can't *stand* Elvis... Don't like him... Or >his music, either... But once, about, ohhh... 4 or 5 years ago, I heard a >version of a song in which he *completely* screwed up onstage... He's >stoned or drunk, singing about ahh... "when i walk into your parlor, you're >missing all of your hair" where it should say something like "I miss you >cause you're not there"... I know i'm wrong here, but it's about the >funniest thing I've heard.. Isn't that in Are You Lonesome Tonight? I know there's a version of that where he is just totally out of it. It's in some documentary on Elvis. He just totally loses it. It's in the white jumpsuit years. My favorite part is during the spoken work part mid song, where he can't remember the words. So he just mumbles nonsense, and then says "plus tax." That cracks me up everytime! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:50:44 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Jimmy's films (0% Hitchcon) >> I'd gladly dig up Rear Window, Vertigo and a bunch of other Jimmy flicks, >> but you know, I have NEVER understood what is so great about It's a >> Wonderful Life. What use is a big sappy feel-good picture if the bad guy >> gets off scot-free? Screw that! :P > >yeah, they should have at least blown him up, or thrown him off a >building, or hit him in the stomach with a missile, or eviscerated him, or >immolated him-- that would have been awesome! best of all, then it would >be just like every other movie! Oh, don't be ridiculous. Maybe he might just have been, I don't know, ARRESTED? :P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 00:49:12 -0700 From: "Mark \"the Pablo Picasso of PC Design\" Gloster" Subject: Babble, Burble, Banter, Bruhaha, Bolderdash and Ballyhoo, it's only talk.... I just don't know if I can get all worked up about any of Robyn's songs to say I don't like 'em. There's something about every one of them that's been mentioned this time around that I like. There are a few that I usually hope he doesn't play live when I see them (eg. I've Got a Message for You), because I've seen it too many times and it's lost any possible surprise for me. The well-dressed Susan made an impressive, internal organ-rendering assault upon Don "Chevy to the Levy on a Starry Starry Night" MacSizzlean. I wish my music could stir her kind of passion in someone, although I'd prefer the happyhappyjoyjoy kind. I guess I can't find it within me to get wild with anger over Don M., though I don't think his music aged terriffically. I think a great number of things were sung and said in the 60's and 70's that many of us could properly wish were on a string, so we could pull them back. He was very "heavy" in his time, which translates to "what th' bejeezis is that whiny, unstable, bard singing about?" nowadays. I understand ol' Don has had a great deal of trouble keeping his oars in the water mentally, after taking so much of the political death of liberalism in the 70's-80's. I mentioned that I have trouble listening to Yes anymore for gibberish reasons. I don't know if I am sharing a well-guarded secret that the other members of the band refer to Jon Anderson as "the false prophet" for the absolute drivel that squirts from pustules of iambic pentameter from his tiny weapon of mass confusion. A friend of mine refers to him as the original two-foot-tall-white-guy-rapper, and this guy likes Yes. I don't know if I have shared with y'all my theory of how the artrock stuff ages: the lyrics don't age well if they had no meaning to the writer, they do age well if the lyricist found real meaning in them, even if your humbly dense feg correspondent lacks any cluage about the words- this is to say that much of the Yes catalog is completely lyrically unfathomable to me and I maintain that Jon A. never had a glimmer in the distance about what he was saying either; meanwhile, Peter Gabriel probably had a firm grasp on what his weirdness meant at least to himself in the early Genesis stuff, though much of it soars by my li'l noggin. I can consume the early Genesis much easier, though I can't pretend to get it all. One of my favorite songs in the world is "Naive Melody" by the TalkingHeads, and there appears no clarity implicit there. Like some of Robyn Hitchcock's works, it is extremely ambiguous and fluid. It takes on a great deal of non-verbal meaning for me. (It's David Byrne, Susan, I know you're not his biggest fan of him either.) I had better stop typing, before I treat you all to one of my random word-generation stream-of-conciousness sleep deprivation-inspired keyboard art wherein I babble about the Higsons whom I sang about today at a big block party where there were about sixty people with weiners in their mouths helping me with the "wuh oh's" and about making little kids laugh until Jolt Cola squirted from their noses onto the summer whites of their grandparents who shouldn't have been left out in the sun for quite so long. No. I should stop now before I comment about the fireworks on the beach and just being missed by an insendiary missile, but it's after midnight here so maybe I can get some sleep now, though I think too many people had too many Jolt Colas with espresso and vivarin chasers and still have many devices to set off between the hours of two and seven, when my head explodes, forcing me to stop writing my own drivel for Jon Anderson to point and laugh at. I should stop now before my cat wakes up and forces me to play "bad trainer accidentally locked in the hungry tiger's cage" until dawn when my sweety discovers my venus di milo remains, assuming Dusty leaves my head attached to the body this time. I should stop typing now before I get so incredibly inspired that I try to explain Dusty's caffenated theory of modified relative edibility, which is very long but boils down to appending to the immortal words of B. Kliban who said, "Don't eat anything bigger than your head," with "but try anyway." Sorry, I meant to save you from that. This particular brand of inspiration is difficult to contain. I something you all, -Markg "Sometimes the universe just says 'I can get weirder than you think.'" -The Great Quail ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.___.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il).-'' (li).' ((!.-' "MMMMmmmmmMMMMMMmmmmmmMMMMM, Quail!" I borrowed this kitty from somebody else's sig. She looks like Dusty, the CEO of tigermonkey records. http://www.tigermonkey.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .