From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #152 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 152 Tuesday July 1 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs Channeling Free-Floating Anxieties Re: thredz... Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) Chain Letter Spoken Word Tape (idea) Re: The art school dance goes on forever Re: Whatever shall we do? Bad Robyn Songs Re: Bad Robyn Songs Re: Whatever shall we do? Re: Chain Letter Spoken Word Tape (idea) shameless (well, not entirely...) self-promotion with bits for effect Re: The art school dance goes on forever making music and other visual arts. Re: shameless Re: Bad Robyn Songs Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Re: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Re: filing music Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) from the pages of Live Magazine fwd: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 03:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs In a message dated 97-06-30 18:32:46 EDT, you write: << Jerry Lieber was on the radio the other day playing 'Is that all there is?', obviously still really proud of it, not understanding that 'Along Came Jones' is the best thing he ever did. >> Try "Shopin' For Clothes" by the Coasters. Also, "Spanish Harlem" is about as beautiful as they come. I could "soapbox" on L & S for many hours, but I'll stop there. :) BTW- Lennon wrote "Good Night" on The White Album, so I suppose the brilliant are bound to flub once and again. Blinking On And Off, Jay ------------------------------ From: Ed Doxtator Subject: Channeling Free-Floating Anxieties Date: Tue, 01 Jul 97 10:55:00 PDT ...well, since everyone else is working out their aggressions, I thought I'd do the lot as well: Most Hated Sport -Basketball. Everyone in Chicago loves it but for me. It's got no soul. Most Hated Snack Food -Pork Rinds. Cap'n Crunch without the fun. Most Hated Non-Robyn Hitchcock Song -"All By Myself". I think it's by Eric Carmen. Most Hated Robyn Hitchcock Song -"Superman" (Queen Elvis version-- loathe it. Programmed it OUT of the playlist on my CD player.) Most Hated Film -Any Mike Nichols film ("Regarding Henry", "Working Girl", "The Birdcage", etc.) Most Hated Form Of Carpet Lint -Those tiny little red fibres that shed from a new robe and mat themselves into the carpet. I swear they bond on a molecular level-- you gotta get a field micro-surgery kit and do eight years in med school before you can even condsider removing them little monofilament fibres from your deep pile! Look after yerselves... -Ed, Doc, who has a great fiancee, 1500+ CD-s, eight albums, six singles, and about 100 cassettes, a life, three cats, no drug experience whatsoever beyond asprin, liked Pulp Fiction, and sounds like a Singles Column Ad. "They have needs, we have shopping lists." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 11:47:27 +0100 fegmaniax@ecto.org From: Andy Holyer Subject: Re: thredz... At 23:27 30/06/97 -0700, Mark \"the Pablo Picasso of PC Design\" Gloster wrote: >... the music theatre of the aggressively bad, where >Bobby Goldsborough's taxidermied head is mounted above the mantle. >--- > Yea, but... I remember an old interview with Julian Cope where he admitted really liking "Summer, the first time", and I've sometimes imagined what Robyn's version would be like... I think that was the same interview in which Julian said "You know, the other day my mum said to me, 'Julian, do you know anyone who takes drugs?'" -&. ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 10:36:00 EDT Subject: Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs Jay said: > > BTW- Lennon wrote "Good Night" on The White Album, so I suppose the brilliant > are bound to flub once and again. That was written as a lullabye. It drove my wife up the wall, but for about 5 years my first daughter would not sleep until I had sung it to her. It works. Terry dissed "I Want You/She's so Heavy", which has got to be the most honest outpourings of raw passion I've ever heard. It's not supposed to be a clever song. equals twenty, -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ From: TROYD1_at_REF@westatpo.westat.com Date: Tue, 01 Jul 97 11:00:53 EDT Subject: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) I think that new Oasis single, "You Know What I Mean" or something like that, is truly awful and is a candidate for future bottom 100 lists. To bring our attention back to Mr. Hitchcock (remember him?), which of his songs do you consider his worst? I'll start the bidding with Furry Green Atom Bowl. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:42:09 -0800 From: lobsterman Subject: Chain Letter Spoken Word Tape (idea) This spoken word tape is a good idea, and I believe there is some interest. The problem is the amount of time it would take to go through each show, looking for that one cool anecdote we remember hearing once about 3 years ago. So we go through the whole tape, only to find...nothing. Hmmm, must've been on another tape. You get the idea. But what if we made it a group effort?? In 1986-1987, some of my friends and i were scattered all over South America; some in Argentina, some in Peru, some in Columbia. To keep in touch, we would each write a letter, put it in an envelope, and send it to the next person. They would read the letter, put it back in the envelope, write one of their own, and place it in the envelope, too. A chain letter of sorts! It was great fun when the letter got back around to you, chock full of words and letters. We never got around to doing tapes this way, but later on we would include pictures, bus tokens, etc. Getting back to the idea I had for the tape: We get a bunch of people that are interested, and each person gets 5 minutes of tape to put on their favorite Robyn spoken word bits. You tape your 5 minutes and send it to the next person in the chain. You can listen to the tape when you get it to make sure that the spoken word bit that you were going to include hasn't been put on there already. And when we get to the end of the chain, we tree the tape, and give it a name. I had heard once of a legit Elvis Presley album that was made up of all his concert banter. I don't know what the title is, but if someone knows, maybe we can take the title and "Robynize" it. What do you think?? It will be alot easier task to get 5 minutes of stuff as opposed to 60 or 90. And it will be a group effort, something the list made up as opposed to one person's idea of what a great Robyn bit sounds like. If you are interested in this, e-mail me privately and I'll see what kind of a response gets drummed up. John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:02:00 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: The art school dance goes on forever On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > Possible new thread -- have we done anything on musicians who paint/draw, > etc? I was thinking of Robyn, of course, but also Jerry Garcia, Dave > Matthews, David Byrne, et al. What's the connection? Has Robyn ever been > asked if there's a commonality between the two processes? Captain Beefheart did the covers to some of his albums, and had an art exhibition in Brighton a year or two ago. Ron Wood (ex-Artwoods, ex-Birds, ex-Faces, now with the Rolling Stones) has a nice little book of sketches out. John Mayall used to do the graphics for his albums. In the UK at least, art school was the regular training ground for musicians in the 60s and 70s - maybe still is. What are RH's art school connections? He must have studied art or art history at some stage, but did he graduate? - Mike Godwin PS I hope I don't have to remember how to spell 'synaesthesia' before this thread snaps... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:06:37 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Whatever shall we do? On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > What Robyn Ought To Do: > > 5) Get Ginger Rogers, Eric Clapton, Brian May, Roger Taylor > and John Deacon together. Call it "Queam". See how many > albums they can sell. Unfortunately Ginger Rogers died last year. And there's no point having her without Fred Astaire (played by Morris Windsor, perhaps?), unless you can get her to reprise "Anytime Annie" from 42nd Street... - Mike Godwin PS Or are you thinking of Roy Rogers? Ginger Flowerdew? Peter Baker? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 14:13:28 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Bad Robyn Songs > To bring our attention back to Mr. Hitchcock (remember him?), which of > his songs do you consider his worst? > > I'll start the bidding with Furry Green Atom Bowl. My bid is for a song from the same incredible album...Mellow Together. I tend to cringe everytime I forget to skip over this one. And the inclusion of the demo on the Rhino reissue is equally troubling. Mellow Mike Runion ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:32:27 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Bad Robyn Songs >> To bring our attention back to Mr. Hitchcock (remember him?), which of >> his songs do you consider his worst? >> >> I'll start the bidding with Furry Green Atom Bowl. > >My bid is for a song from the same incredible album...Mellow Together. I >tend to cringe everytime I forget to skip over this one. And the >inclusion of the demo on the Rhino reissue is equally troubling. > >Mellow Mike Runion I always thought this was a pretty funny song. The vocals remind me of the hippie character on the early 80's English TV show "The Young Ones". Anyone else? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:29:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Whatever shall we do? >> 5) Get Ginger Rogers, Eric Clapton, Brian May, Roger Taylor >> and John Deacon together. Call it "Queam". See how many >> albums they can sell. > >Unfortunately Ginger Rogers died last year. And there's no point having >her without Fred Astaire (played by Morris Windsor, perhaps?), unless you >can get her to reprise "Anytime Annie" from 42nd Street... > >- Mike Godwin > >PS Or are you thinking of Roy Rogers? Ginger Flowerdew? Peter Baker? Ginger Grant? Ginger Lynn? Ginger Spice? Eb PS For what it's worth, Eb's top 10 for the first half of 1997: Dinosaur Jr./Hand It Over, Swell/Too Many Days Without Thinking, That Dog/Retreat >From The Sun, Tipsy/Trip Tease: The Seductive Sounds of Tipsy, Yo La Tengo/I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One, Supergrass/In It For the Money, Redd Kross/Show World, Quasi/R&B Transmogrification, The Folk Implosion/Dare To Be Surprised, Pavement/Brighten The Corners ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:45 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Chain Letter Spoken Word Tape (idea) >And when we get to the end of the chain, we tree the tape, and give it a >name. I had heard once of a legit Elvis Presley album that was made up of >all his concert banter. I don't know what the title is, but if someone >knows, maybe we can take the title and "Robynize" it. Robyn Having Prawn On Stage? Naaah. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Anton Barbeau Subject: shameless (well, not entirely...) self-promotion with bits for effect only two more days of paid e-mail ( and free pens!), then it's back to my real life as a secret freaky rocker. wanted to let any san francisco area feg-folks know about a couple shows i'm doing with me new RAWK BAND, the anton barbeau drag team 3. weds july 2nd (whoa...that's tomorrow, eh!) we're at the hotel utah, 4th and bryant in s.f. we're on after 10. don't know who the other band(s) might be. sat august 9, again at hotel utah, we're allegedly playing with the always incredible loud family. this show ain't confirmed, though it seems like a "go". if anyone wants more info and/or to get on the mailing list, please write to: idiot po box 163857 sacramento ca 95816 usa. thanks for your time and eyestrain...now back to the regular rant! ...uhhh, i keep all my tapes in a box marked "tapes" and all my CDs on a shelf marked "shelf". all my beatles, robyn/soft boys, xtc, julian cope, kate, dylan and sandy coates CDs are somewhat neatly ordered. all other CDs are smashed face to face. now you know. i do have another shelf with its own very cute (read: dusty) robyn section. live tapes and magazines/press bits go here. now you know. well...boss has suggested i do some work, but thanks again for indulging me. i've enjoyed this rockin' gob quite much! offfffffff.... anton, who shall have no pod to call his own after thursday ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:46:38 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: The art school dance goes on forever On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > In the UK at least, art school was the regular training ground for > musicians in the 60s and 70s - maybe still is. What are RH's art school > connections? He must have studied art or art history at some stage, but > did he graduate? I know I've got a Hitchcock article around here somewhere that says he dropped out of art school after a year or so, but then again (1) I've got articles that include all sorts of inaccurate information, (2) I can't find it, and (3) it isn't in the feg archives. The _PVs_ archives, OTOH, include some really high-quality color Xeroxes - I mean you can almost see the depth of the penstrokes - of Hitchcock's student sketchbooks, and if I recall correctly I was told that they date from his art-school days and that Hitchcock explicitly refused to give Aidan Merritt permission to reprint them. And Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > > have we done anything on musicians who paint/draw [...] Has Robyn > > ever been asked if there's a commonality between the two processes? > Why are there so few good Hitchcock interviews, anyway? Year after year you seem to get the same twenty or so questions skipping around off the surface without ever bringing anything up from the depths. I remember picking up a small-press literary magazine with a Hitchcock interview in the hopes they'd treat him as seriously as they would a writer or a painter, and getting the usual fish/dead father/REM checklist of questions. Oh, and the all-spoken Elvis album was _Elvis Having Fun On Stage_. -- How is it that you fail to perceive that I did not speak about bread? - Matthew 16:11 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:54:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: making music and other visual arts. On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > Possible new thread -- have we done anything on musicians who paint/draw, > etc? I was thinking of Robyn, of course, but also Jerry Garcia, Dave > Matthews, David Byrne, et al. What's the connection? They all went to art school. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:08:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: shameless Anton wrote: >...uhhh, i keep all my tapes in a box marked "tapes" and all my CDs on >a shelf marked "shelf". Isn't that inconsistent? If you label the shelf "shelf," then I strongly feel the box should be labeled "box." ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:33:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Bad Robyn Songs On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Ben wrote: > I always thought this was a pretty funny song. The vocals remind me of the > hippie character on the early 80's English TV show "The Young Ones". Anyone > else? Yes me too Ben, I always thought he was imitating Neil from "The Young Ones". Worst tune..... Wouldn't be any on that album actually. Probably "Legalized Murder". Lovely sentiment, awful song. And of course the woefully embarassing (yet curiously endearing) "Midnight Fish". Hrrmmmm.....That's all I can think of off the top of my head. "Balloon Man" sometimes really really gets on my nerves as well, but not because it's awful per se, just because that's the only Robyn song anyone outside this lovely community seems to know Love on ya, Susan P.S. Stop ragging on "Superman" :) ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Subject: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" Anyone know where I could get this? I want it for compilation tapes. I especially like the version that starts "something is slithering..." Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" > To bring our attention back to Mr. Hitchcock (remember him?), which of > his songs do you consider his worst? > > I'll start the bidding with Furry Green Atom Bowl. I suppose this is inevitable, but I really like that song (heck, even groovy decoy has its defenders). To me it sounds like a tribal chant of the far future, recording in highly distorted form the racial memory of the global thermonuclear war that sent humanity back into barbarity: "And the black was hungry when it came down So it ate the world for miles around Sticky black meat Will flood your street Sticky black oil Will boil your soil" And mutations: "Spell a brand new world with the same old letters" I do agree about Mellow Together however. A very odd song. My candidate for worst song would be either "Old people scream" or "Unsettled". Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:25:44 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? Daniel asked: >Anyone know where I could get this? I want it for compilation tapes. I >especially like the version that starts "something is slithering..." As far as I know, it's only available on the Balloon Man CD5. It's called "Globe of Frogs (Electric)" and does indeed begin with Robyn whispering "...something slithering..." +++++++++++++++++ "Don't let Western Civilization + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + make a dipshit out of you." +++++++++++++++++ -- Spot 1019 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:04:41 -0500 From: nicastr@idt.net (Ben) Subject: Re: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? >Daniel asked: > >>Anyone know where I could get this? I want it for compilation tapes. I >>especially like the version that starts "something is slithering..." > >As far as I know, it's only available on the Balloon Man CD5. It's called >"Globe of Frogs (Electric)" and does indeed begin with Robyn whispering >"...something slithering..." > I think it's also on the A&M Greatest Hits compilation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:13:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: filing music i swore i wasn't going to respond to this... i SWORE i wasn't going to respond to this... if you MUST know, I keep things either in or out of boxes, all over the place. i have more cd's than ls diamond and terrence, but about two full rooms less than does woj. However, I am gaining on woj and john jones in the live robyn tape department. I am also a dat head, which means i am binary (but do not exploit it to a great an effect as does robyn.) there. didn't think i'd manage to stay on topic, did you. ha. =b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:29:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Daniel Saunders wrote: > I suppose this is inevitable, but I really like that song I like that song too. It's interesting what different people get from different songs I think, because I saw it as a hyper-sexual Burroughs-ian nightmare (or fantasy). But then my mind kind of tends that way....... I particularly like the sound poetry of "furry green" and "verdigris". > (heck, even > groovy decoy has its defenders). Right here, buddy. Put 'em up. > I do agree about Mellow Together however. A very odd song. My candidate > for worst song would be either "Old people scream" or "Unsettled". "Young People Scream". Go listen to GD :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 16:52:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: from the pages of Live Magazine this was passed on to me by our music director. Don't have the issue number or the date, but there's a page of travel weight comparisons in the rock world. For instance, U2 travels with 1200 tons of stuff (Wold's largest video screen, 30-ton PA system and a 12 foot wide illuminated olive on a 100-foot toothpick), transported in 52 semis and 15 busses. here are the others mentioned... KISS: 436 tons. Transported via 11 48-foot trailers MICHAEL JACKSON: 240 Tons. Transported via 2 or 3 AN 124 freight planes SMASHING PUMPKINS: 150 Tons. Transported via six Semis REDHOT CHILI PEPPERS: 75 tons. Transported via three semis SHERYL CROW: 60 tons. Transported via two semis VANESSA-MAE (violinist): 2 tons. Transported via rental truck and bringing up the rear... ROBYN HITCHCOCK: 54 pounds (two guitars, 4 harmonicas) Transported via luggage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 17:23:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: fwd: Electric Globe of Frogs on CD? ======== Original Message ======== Daniel asked: >Anyone know where I could get this? I want it for compilation tapes. I >especially like the version that starts "something is slithering..." As far as I know, it's only available on the Balloon Man CD5. It's called "Globe of Frogs (Electric)" and does indeed begin with Robyn whispering "...something slithering..." +++++++++++++++++ "Don't let Western Civilization + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + make a dipshit out of you." +++++++++++++++++ -- Spot 1019 ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== also on the A&M best of CD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Punky Garfunkel and Really Bad Songs On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Ross Overbury wrote: > Terry dissed "I Want You/She's so Heavy", which has got to be the most honest > outpourings of raw passion I've ever heard. It's not supposed to be a clever > song. 'Plastic Ono Band' is rawer and better than "I Want You". About two-thirds of it, anyway. And you can hear Robyn's musical inspiration for "Somewhere Apart". JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:01:48 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Bad songs (with some actual Robyn content!) On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 TROYD1_at_REF@westatpo.westat.com wrote: > To bring our attention back to Mr. Hitchcock (remember him?), which of > his songs do you consider his worst? "Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus" is God awful. I get a reaction when I hear it. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .