From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #142 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 142 Sunday June 22 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Viva Sea-Tac at Addicted To Noise The Can Opener First album I bought t-shirt bumbershoot bumberhead Re: t-shirt Re: bumbershoot Re: bumberhead Re: t-shirt and other threads Re: bumberhead Lou Reed (no RH) Re: first records... vicious twirling ratchet Frog and Thoth are Friends Re: vicious twirling ratchet Bylaws and Fashion Elections Re: random bits of stuff Re: The housewives are complaining to the manager Re: t-shirt Re: t-shirt Received: from clairseach.ecto.org (clairseach.ecto.org [199.45.7.10]) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08837 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 15:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by clairseach.ecto.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04760 for fegmaniax-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:25:30 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: clairseach.ecto.org: majordom set sender to owner-fegmaniax using -f Received: from moon.aa.net (moon.aa.net [204.157.220.10]) by clairseach.ecto.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04755 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.199.141.116] (cust116.max1.seattle.aa.net [205.199.141.116]) by moon.aa.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03104 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:25:41 -0700 X-Intended-For: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33A9C94C.7484@centralnet.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:25:29 -0700 From: Jeff Barlow Subject: Viva Sea-Tac at Addicted To Noise Sender: owner-fegmaniax@clairseach.ecto.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jeff Barlow Hey all- Sorry if someone already posted this, but the Addicted To Noise site has an article on last Friday's Viva Sea-Tac gig. http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/lofi/970617/970617_262.shtml Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: The Can Opener I think the narration rotates from all four, to Roger, to Robyn, to Andy, to Morris (except in the final half-verse, which omits Robyn)... does this sound right? Terry? (for those who have not yet heard this piece, it's an epic poem that was found as a b-side on a vinyl release, as i remember it was between fegmania! and element of light.. written by andy and robyn, i think) i didn't find the words in the archives, but i can type it in if you really want, if ya really really want.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: First album I bought I bought my first "album" (if you can call it that) in 1978 or so. I was 8 years-old and purchased "The Monster Mash" because it had cool Halloween cover. I played it so much that my cruel sisters snatched it out of my hands & promptly sat on it. I--and the record--was crushed. --Carole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:22:25 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: t-shirt well... it seems that there has been some disagreement with the idea of asking robyn to do artwork for the list t-shirt. as i have not yet faxed management about it, there is still time to decide differently. i won't ask if there is enough fegs who think we shouldn't bug robyn about this. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:19:20 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: bumbershoot also sprach Eddie Tews: >bumbershoot: they usually don't print the schedule until the thursday >before labor day weekend. but i'd bet my shorts that woj already knows >the exact specs of robyn's show. warner brother's web site indicates that robyn will be playing on september 30th. +w ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:25:39 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: bumberhead i said: >warner brother's web site indicates that robyn will be playing on september >30th. of course, i meant *august* 30th. d'oh. +w ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:09:41 -0500 From: Hal Brandt CC: regmaniax Subject: Re: t-shirt the woj of noise wrote: > it seems that there has been some disagreement with the idea of asking > robyn to do artwork for the list t-shirt. as i have not yet faxed > management about it, there is still time to decide differently. i won't ask > if there is enough fegs who think we shouldn't bug robyn about this. I don't think that asking is bugging necessarily. If there's no answer after the initial contact, or if they brush you off like it's a lame idea, then drop it and tell them thanks for the consideration anyway. I don't think the concept will be ridiculed too hard even if they do decline, so there's no reason to walk on eggshells about it. If Robyn hates the list and feels that we are all fiends/ghouls, so be it! Who knows? He might just feel the opposite and give us a really nice cartoon! I'm betting on the latter. hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 17:21:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: bumbershoot >warner brother's web site indicates that robyn will be playing on september >30th. Which brings me back to the subject of my birthday. :) Oh, last time I forgot to mention Johnny Mathis. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 17:21:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: bumberhead >i said: > >>warner brother's web site indicates that robyn will be playing on september >>30th. > >of course, i meant *august* 30th. d'oh. > >+w Ooops! Never mind. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: t-shirt and other threads On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Hal Brandt wrote: > I don't think the concept will be ridiculed too hard > even if they do decline, so there's no reason to walk > on eggshells about it. If Robyn hates the list and feels that we > are all fiends/ghouls, so be it! [...] ya, it can't hurt to ask, right? besides, he doesn't hate the *whole* list.. he likes jay h. and randi! i checked the 1-1-91 tape from max's and the "rolling intro" to wax doll is a verbal rap over the guitar part. it has the narrator being told by his father, "you're a pussy, son. you should have stayed inside your mother. y'ain't never gonna be no good at football.." "well, neither are you dad, with your legs amputated like that." does it mean anything? who can say? I'm pleased to report I have received the sea-tac tape of the resourceful eddie tews, and despite his disclaimers i think his sister did a durn nice job, esp. as she's new at this taping thing, as i recall. stand by for instructions for the tape tree. =b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Cardboard Cream Subject: Re: bumberhead > >warner brother's web site indicates that robyn will be playing on september > >30th. > > of course, i meant *august* 30th. d'oh. at http://www.onereel.org/, there is no mention of a schedule or times yet. there is no mention of tim either. but, is the 30th not a sunday and do most of us have to monday off. if this is the case there will be one poor soul going from south to the north and back. this assumes that they do not want 67 dollars plus service for a day ticket!! :) so, whose in for a road trip?? or perhaps this should wait until we have more information... :) .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:55:21 -0400 From: chichi@io.com (Zelda Pinwheel) Subject: Lou Reed (no RH) At 4:22 PM 6/19/1997, Zslick@aol.com wrote:>Yeah, well you never can be too sure about anything Lou says in interviews >(he seems to change things around depending on how he's feeling, or what he >thinks about who he's talking to) Ahh...Example: I read an interview w/Lou in Musician a little while back, in which he raved about Meatloaf, (the singer, not the food). I'm still puzzled by this--sf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This product is sold by weight, not volume. Some settling of contents may have occurred during shipping and handling. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re: first records... >From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) >Subject: Re: first records... >First records (given to me as presents...age 10 or so): >- Star Wars (London PHILHARMONIC Orchestra...this wasn't even the real >soundtrack! I still fume about this.) hahaha... that's funny! I remember going to the store to buy Meco's 45 of Star Wars, and accidentally buying the London Philharmonic's. I was so disappointed when I got it home. Okay, here goes- first record I ever bought - in 1976, The Beach Boys - 15 Big Ones. first concert - March 1979 Billy Joel. Near the end of the show, I went down to the front of the stage to take some pictures. Security hadn't been allowing anyone up there, but since it was near the end of the show. They didn't care anymore. When people saw I was allowed to stand at the edge of the stage, a huge rush of people came flying down the aisles. I was innocently standing there, snapping photos, when the wall of people hit me so hard, they knocked my flash cube right off my camera.... and Billy Joel almost stepped on it!! Getting crushed like that scared the heck out of me! It was during the song, Big Shot, and for months afterwards, my heart would start beating faster whenever I heard that song on the radio. ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:42:27 -0700 Subject: vicious twirling ratchet was it just me, or did don coryell always look like he'd just finished pooping his pants? allright, yeah, i sent out a fuckload of tapes this week. if you sent your address to me and haven't received a package by, say, wednesday, (or, if you contacted me, and i didn't get back to you) then i apologize profusely. please try again. jeff, man, too bad you didn't get that vote in for My Life As A Dog a couple weeks ago, as it would've moved it up a few notches! yes, it's swedish. directed by lasse hallstrom. it won the golden space needle for best movie at the seattle international film festival in 1987, and landed lasse an oscar nomination for best director. it was jack nicholson's favorite movie of 1987, and was mentioned in one of the earlier episodes of thirtysomething. based on the novel of the same name by reidar jonsson, it's one of only two movies that i actually like a little bit better than the book (the other is A River Runs Through It.) the sequel is called My Father, His Son, and is an excellent book. jonsson was interviewed on the criterion collection laserdisc of The Player, where he was referred to as the author of the My Life As A Dog trilogy, and the screenplay for the forthcoming film of My Father, His Son. that was, golly, four years ago at least, and to my knowledge, neither the third book in the trilogy, nor the second film has yet appeared. hallstrom subsequently directed the swedish movies Children of Bullerby Village, and More From The Children of Bullerby Village, the first of which played in seattle in the fall of '91 and is a GREAT movie. it was recently released onto video in a dubbed version only, and i refuse to see it in this format, though i have seen the dubbed version of My Life As A Dog, and it sucks. lasse has since directed Once Around, What's Eating Gilbert Grape, and Something To Talk About. i don't know if he still makes movies in sweden or not. i say all these things not to bore you all to tears, but as a way of heartily endorsing the books of reidar jonsson, and the movies of lasse hallstrom. is it ok if we resuscitate the warplanes thread? i don't think the definitive list was ever posted, unless i missed it. i don't know why i find this topic so fascinating, but i do. i'm not trying to pick on you susan, but there is a reason that NPR is derisively referred to as "National Petroleum Radio," and the reason is that its programming is almost entirely "underwritten" by massive corporate donations. if you don't think that effects the news you're getting, well, you're just not paying attention. if you want to borrow some of my massive collection of David Barsamian's alternative radio tapes, you're quite welcome to. people are saying that the viva sea-tac 2 show was the best they've ever seen. that makes some sense when taken alone, maybe. but taken in the context of the tour, i was somewhat disappointed in the setlist of the first half of the show. most of these songs had been played not only all tour long, but also in the same city six nights earlier. you'd have thought he could have mixed it up a little. that's a minor quibble, but when you're talking things like "best of all time" it's probably germane. one more comment about the tour: robyn was ATTACKING the harmonica like i've never seen him, or probably anyone else, do so in the past. that was fun. ------------------------------ Subject: Frog and Thoth are Friends Date: Sun, 22 Jun 97 10:58:39 -0000 From: The Great Quail >Um, this word was presumably *transliterated* from Egyptian(?), wasn't >it? By someone who had at least a functional knowledge of English >phonetics? So if it's not pronounced "Thoth," why is it spelled >"Thoth?" My guess would be the Germans - they did a lot of Egyptology - and, er, tomb robbing - and in German "Thoth" is pronounced "TOTE." >Second (er, fifth) question -- does the word come from a living >language? If so, how do native speakers say it, and if not, then >aren't we *all* twirling our fingers in cans of baked beans? Well, ancient Egyptian is pretty well dead, and If my facts are straight (and I am far from my preciousss bookses right now) I don't thing ancient Egyptian names had *any* real set pronounciation. I am pretty sure they didn't even include vowels in the writing, similarly to old Hebrew. So variants are allowed. Quail PS: Oh, yes, the "frog" part of tonight's program: My first tape I bought with my own allowance money was "The Muppet Movie" soundtrack, at K-Mart, whatever year the movie came out. I still have it, and listen to it frequently, though it does squeek and wobble a bit, like a drunken mouse trying to pull his tail away from a malevolent three year old. ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:17:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: vicious twirling ratchet On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Eddie Tews wrote: > corporate donations. if you don't think that effects the news you're > getting, well, you're just not paying attention. if you want to borrow > some of my massive collection of David Barsamian's alternative radio > tapes, you're quite welcome to. Of course it affects the news, which is why I seek news from multiple sources. What I listen to NPR for is stuff like "This American Life" and "Blues Before Sunrise" and "Thistle and Shamrock" and "Afro-Pop Worldwide". I don't think the petroleum industry has much effect on these shows one way or the other. Thanks for trying to raise my consciousness, but it's already been raised :) :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 17:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bylaws and Fashion Elections Biggles writes: <> Would someone please check our bylaws and report back on exactly how long one has to be here or how much one must contribute in order to have an opinion? I seem to have misplaced the Feg Handbook that came with my Welcome Package. ;) At the risk of breaking said law, I vote for a green shirt (appeals to my environmental consciousness, AND matches Kay's and my eyes :) ), Robyn art or quote on the back (original quote/art for the list in particular would be great, but there are SO many good ones to choose from it'd be hard to go wrong), Nicks "fegmaniax" on the FRONT left breast <;)>, and the URL? Well, I like Marks 'down the sleeve' idea if we go for LS. After all, it get's *so* cold here in California.... ;) Syd Woj queries: <> Isn't it "Hedblade"? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 18:02:49 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: random bits of stuff > >have you ever listened to any Godley & Creme? These two erstwhile members > >of 10cc, who then became top video directors, Ghost story fans might like their song "Under your thumb" where the singer meets the ghost of a woman who threw herself off a train some time before. Not to be confused with any other songs featuring the wrods "Under" and "Thumb" in the title. - hssmrg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 16:14:34 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: The housewives are complaining to the manager On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > To me "Modern World" and "Roadrunner" are > desperate attempts to assert that there is still beauty, still hope in > such a bleak emotional landscape, and doesn't "Girlfriend" sound more > desperate than it does anything else, as well? Have to pick you up on spelling there: that's a G-I-R-L-F-R-E-N <:-} And I don't agree about "Hospital", either. It's much more like "Alison" than like punk music. And no-one would call Declan punk (would they?) although he rode the punk bicycle quite cleverly for a year or two. For me, Jonathan Richman will always be at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1978(?) singing four encores of "I'm a little dinosaur" and eight encores of "Ice Cream Man". Excellent, memorable show, but the punks in the audience really didn't care for it. Cheers - Mike "The lady on the bus says 'Son don't bother the driver, son don't bother the driver, son don't bother the driver' The lady on the bus says 'Son don't bother the driver' all through the town" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: t-shirt Date: Sun, 22 Jun 97 15:35:39 -0700 From: Tom Clark "the woj of noise" On 6/21/97 4:09 PM, Hal Brandt stated emphatically: >I don't think that asking is bugging necessarily. >If there's no answer after the initial contact, or if >they brush you off like it's a lame idea, then drop it >and tell them thanks for the consideration anyway. >I don't think the concept will be ridiculed too hard >even if they do decline, so there's no reason to walk >on eggshells about it. If Robyn hates the list and feels that we >are all fiends/ghouls, so be it! Who knows? He might >just feel the opposite and give us a really nice cartoon! >I'm betting on the latter. ditto. -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 19:33:35 -0400 (EDT) From: the woj of noise Subject: Re: t-shirt alright, alright! just wanted to make sure about the t-shirt thing before acting. seemed like there was some uncertainty on some feg's parts and i didn't want to ask for the list without knowing that the list was on-board. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .