From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #141 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 141 Saturday June 21 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- 0% RH:Mom Hates It (Re: first album bought with own money) RE: first records... Pant, Can't, Pedant and Rant (negative RH content) Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) Viva Sea Tac II please do call me feg-- Re: Element of Thoth RE: I am not me Re: Sections (0% RH) Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) Re: first album bought with own money Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq First CD observations RE: TShirts Wax Doll at Max's Wax at Max's Re: first records... missing ear, found Eye Re: first album bought with own money Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq Gay Sir Robyn. . . . Frog and Thoth are Friends. . . . Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq T. Rex ------------------------------ Subject: 0% RH:Mom Hates It (Re: first album bought with own money) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 15:19:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark "The Lobster Gang" On 6/20/97 11:20 AM, Capuchin remebered whimsically: >I bought violent femmes self-titled debut with my own money at the end of >fourth grade (mid-1984). My mother took it away from me twice over the >years and each time I had to sneak into her bedroom and steal it back. >She's not a smart woman and didn't realize she was taking away the same >album. But then again, she took away a Dead Milkmen album from me when I >was in ninth grade, so I guess she was just oppressively controlling. On a related note: Once when I thought my mom was out of the house I put on Zappa's "Over-Nite Sensation" and turned the volume to 11. I was sitting in the kitchen talking to my sister when, right in the middle of "Dinah-Moe-Hum", the needle goes screeeeetching across the record. Two seconds later my mom is in the kitchen beating me over the head with the broken vinyl(!), screaming "I don't want this kind of filth in my house!!!" Since then I've become an ardent collector of Zappa CD's - they don't hurt as much! happy friday! -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 21:58:33 UT From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: RE: first records... Ok, this may hurt: First tape: "Weird Al" Yankovic.....In 3-D First .45: Paul Hardcastle.........19 First CD Single: The Charlatans.........Over Rising EP First CD long play: (two together....along with Charlies EP) The Church......Starfish The Soft Boys.....Can of Bees (pre-ryko Two Crabs Pressing, ...made in France........) Kenneth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:54:11 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Pant, Can't, Pedant and Rant (negative RH content) Wow! Good discussion. I'm out of breath from reading the last two digests... Ross: I agree with everything he says... how come no one has ever seen us in the same room at the same time? Suspicious, I'd call it. Markg's first album: Banana Splits! Cool. Can I borrow it? ...I still can't get that gibber-nakker-pancake bit.. Susan: "Dirk Wears White Socks" is undeniably one of the masterpieces of the modern music era (--that would be the title, not the music ;) ) (Well, OK, I like the music too...) Re Lydon: Try listening to the Sex Pistols today. With hindsight I think they were simply a good (OK, great) *rock 'n roll* band. The "punk" thing was a marketing hype overlay, based on fashion and attitude. At the time I found them awkward to listen to because of all that stuff (little of which I related to), but now I find it hard to fathom my reaction, based only on the music. Now, "Chelsea" on the other hand... (no "authentic" punk band of the time would have sold out to the extent of making a big label record -- or of learning to play their instruments for that matter). Russ's Rants: > These separate sections in record stores smack of genreism and I think > it's a disgrace. I for one envision a world when the 64 year old > Gershwin fan can shop side by side in the same aisle with the 14 year > old Gwar fan.... ...or Hitchcock and Horowitz Yay! Go Russ! Have a great weekend everybody! ~N ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > ObRobyn (it's about fucking time)- I was very curious about something. On > the Lovelines tape he says something about being bisexual but > not "practicing", and also comments that he has the occasional homosexual > fantasy and had "written songs about men". Aside from the obvious case of > "Ted, Woody, and Junior", which might these be? This is intriguing to say > the least. Does anyone know if his experience with bisexuality goes deeper > than the standard schoolboy fumblings? Well, there are several love songs that don't expressly say 'she' or 'her'. Any of those could be what he was talking about. There was a bit of rumor several years ago that "So You Think You're In Love" was about falling in love with someone of the same sex when that wasn't your usual practice, but Robyn seemed to dispell that in an interview or two. As for his particular persuasion, well... that's kind of his business. I seem to recall him saying something about never having been deeply involved with a man 'per se'. But I don't see how it's 'intriguing'. Just because he's not given to most folks' subconscious sexism... Well, whatever your hang-up. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: oskjefte@online.no Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:46:55 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Viva Sea Tac II Hi! Anyone with tape of the 13th of June show at Crocodile Cafe, Seattle or any other information, please e-mail me privately See ya Ole **************************************************************************** See you in Heaven, if we make the ( set- ) list! **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:03:35 -0400 From: WISNIEWSKI Subject: please do call me feg-- -- Kay Lord Wisniewski Wis@Worldnet.Att.Net Je suis abit woosy after trailing thru over 1,000 messages(2 weeks away) but here are my impressions: Salve Quail. Daemon Runion is the way to go. Green to mach my eyes. But not kelly--its a hard color to wear. Celadon? Spring green? Or a great color on all--a clear forest.Yeah! Fegmaniax of the world.org. Between the Buttons, so long ago I dont remember. But I do remember it was $2.99, the extent of my wordly wealth. A guy named Doug, sitting in the window overlooking the Hudson river, at the Cloisters in NY. 13? Many things I expect from Lou Reed, but consistancy aint one of them. Zappa was all brains and prick, no heart. Couldnt stand him. Dreamt about him once thou. I was sitting in his living room and he was trying to guess my kink, but I got bored and left. And now, seriously folks. We all love,honor,but refuse to obey Robyn, right? I say leave the poor man out of the tee-shirt thing. Alright, pick a piece of artwork hes already done, but lets not ask him to pitch in. Frankly(and Im aclimbing on my hobbyhorse here), this list isnt about Robyn, its about our impressions of Robyn. which is why I have no problem with members meandering all over the place , whether its informing us what CD they just made, or forging the notorioius Hildenfloss diaries. Robyn in our parlance is not the name of a person living an actual life(thou such a Robyn does exits,) its the name of a sensibility we sometimes share. and the tee-shirt should be a celebration of that. Therefore how about "No one else can see your dreams" for the quote? Or "Im not me" or "Im only you"? "Ill be with you wherever you are"? "Save your illusions for yourself?" "One long pair of eyes, so she could see you""Ill believe if you believe in me" Ahh...I cant get the right one, but I know it exists. its serious, its about identity, Susan, is it on Eye? And its got heart. Then again, the fiends quote is pretty good. And Eb. I love about 1/2 of Respect--but I think whoever mixed it was smokin too much dope at the time, well, thats how I interpret the big production anyway. You know--sound great when... Thats not my name K ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Element of Thoth Bayard writes: << can anyone recommend a tome of etymology >> Wait! Aren't we talking about RH here? Perhaps you need a tome of entomology. :) Syd ------------------------------ From: Cynthia Peterson Subject: RE: I am not me Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:37:26 -0700 >>>Ahh...I cant get the right one, but I know it exists. its serious, >>>its about identity, Susan, is it on Eye? And its got heart. My favourite identity quote: "The line between us is so thin, I might as well be you," etc. A little too touching for a t-shirt maybe? but it never fails to get to me. I also once had "We must be somewhere east of Java" engraved upon a stainless steel coffee cup for my sweetie. I was never exactly sure what was meant by that...but it sounds like a nice place to me. CP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:38:32 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Sections (0% RH) On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Russ Reynolds wrote: > These separate sections in record stores smack of genreism and I think it's > a disgrace. I for one envision a world when the 64 year old Gershwin fan can > shop side by side in the same aisle with the 14 year old Gwar fan. You think too small. I'd like to see the 14 year old Gerschwin fan shopping side by side with the 64 year old Gwar fan. -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:55:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Capuchin wrote: > As for his particular persuasion, well... that's kind of his business. I > seem to recall him saying something about never having been deeply > involved with a man 'per se'. > But I don't see how it's 'intriguing'. Just because he's not given to > most folks' subconscious sexism... Well, whatever your hang-up. Erm, actually it's interesting that you would assume I had a hangup. I had entirely different and more personal reasons for being curious. I won't go into them here :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cardboard Cream Subject: Re: first album bought with own money first time i ever heard a soft boys song on _commercial radio_: 19 june, 1997. i remember it like it was yesterday... i don't think that will happen again, and we are talking real commercial radio, not radio with 'underwriters'. odd, it was--leppo and the gooves. it made me want to listen to the albums, but i went to bed instead. touched by the john littlejohn, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 21:57:46 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > ...There weren't many people running round in '73 with short > haircuts, for one thing, and playing VU inspired straight-ahead rock and > roll... This was up there courage-wise with Big Star's playing Beatles/Byrds influenced pop-rock in the early 70s and the Soft Boys doing the same thing a few years later. > Wasn't "the Flowers of Romance" what he called a mythical early wannabe > punk band that included Siouxsie and Marco Pirrone, among others? Think so, yup. And PIL's *Metal Box* (*Second Edition* in the states) is one of the best albums ever > Love on ya, > Susan > going for the "most frequent use of the word desperate in one paragraph" > award Desperately seeking Susan, Re: homoerotic Hitchcock Wax Doll's "if I were man enough I'd come on your stump" plus Queen of Eyes, Queen Elvis, Veins of the Queen, Beautiful Queen perhaps Sometimes I wish I was a pretty girl JL, -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:07:44 -0700 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) Subject: First CD observations It's an interesting split on the "First CD Bought" thread here -- the younger fans seem to simply have their first CD as their first album; all well & good. But for many of the older ones, the question is "What album did you feel so strongly about that you were willing to buy it on a new, expensive, `audiophile' format?" Some of these answers have been really revealing. For instance (you knew I'd get around to this) ... my first CD was I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS. I bought it a year before I got a CD player. This was before CDs became the standard format, and I'd been struggling with trying to get a good tape made of the record, which kept leaving vinyl shavings all over my stylus needle and sounded noisy as hell. I saw the import-only Midnight Music CD show up in the "Compact Discs" bin of the record store, and I had to grab it before it vanished forever. I figured I'd get a chance to tape it off someone else's CD player. When I finally bought my own CD player, I had one of my favorite albums waiting for me in crystal-clear reproduction. It had been worth the $22. I think my next two CDs were "The Madcap Laughs" and "Barrett" -- again, old treasured friends I wanted in perfect reproduction forever. - David Librik librik@cs.Berkeley.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:14:12 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: RE: TShirts On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Cynthia Peterson wrote: > My favourite identity quote: "The line between us is so thin, I might as > well be you," etc. A little too touching for a t-shirt maybe? but it > never fails to get to me. This reminds me of a favorite Hitchcock lyric which might even work as a T-Shirt logo. From *Satellite* "I'm into you so far/I'm out the other side" Put the first line in front and the second in back and it would be neat. Put a cool graphic depicting that and it would be spiffin'. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 23:41:50 -0400 From: Scary Mary Subject: Wax Doll at Max's John Littlejohn offered: >Desperately seeking Susan, >Re: homoerotic Hitchcock >Wax Doll's "if I were man enough I'd come on your stump" >plus Queen of Eyes, Queen Elvis, Veins of the Queen, Beautiful Queen >perhaps Sometimes I wish I was a pretty girl At Max's on Broadway in Baltimore on either 1.1.91 or 5.7.92 (or perhaps a completely different date), Robyn prefaced Wax Doll with a tale (as much as I can remember) about not living up to his father's expectations, something about how his father wanted him to be more sports-oriented, and also about how his father was an amputee! (Bayard do you have a tape of this show or am I completely imagining all this?) I figured it was just a bit of fiction to introduce the song. Mary http://www.wizard.net/~loona ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Wax at Max's On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Scary Mary wrote: > > At Max's on Broadway in Baltimore on either 1.1.91 or 5.7.92 (or perhaps > a completely different date), Robyn prefaced Wax Doll with a tale (as > much as I can remember) about not living up to his father's expectations, > something about how his father wanted him to be more sports-oriented, > and also about how his father was an amputee! (Bayard do you have a tape > of this show or am I completely imagining all this?) to my sorrow, i missed both of these gigs and indeed never got to see max's... [didn't the power blow out once and he had to finish the gig "unplugged" outside, a la "the parking lot gig" at another venue?] i might have a copy of the new year's show (i'm pretty sure woj does) but would have to dig it out-- i think it's been said before though, that "come on your stump" means "get on the soapbox [and say my piece]"? > I figured it was just a bit of fiction to introduce the song. a fair assumption. more telling perhaps is the comment about people who "exploit their sexual ambiguity" to better effect than does he. I think he said that before queen elvis, or perhaps TWJ. =b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:16:37 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: first records... >- Star Wars (London PHILHARMONIC Orchestra...this wasn't even the real >soundtrack! I still fume about this.) Ah!! Another victim! My aunt tends to get me albums like this one--the worthless sort that the used CD shops won't take.............. I think the last one I got was an album of various Space/Alien movie themes with redone orchestrated themes... agh!!!!!!! First LP i ever owned... (gift, which i still love listening to, BTW) The Chipmunk Adventure Soundtrack that was a GREAT movie. :) First LP i ever *bought* would have to be........ Spyro Gyra "carnaval" that or 'Tapestry' by Carole King.. i forget which i actually put on the counter first. :) LSDiamond np: Disciplined Breakdown ~ CS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I hated to kill them all, but they had to be taught a lesson... Come visit me at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 Last updated 7 June 1997 I'm on the LinkExchange!! Be on the lookout for my specially-made banner! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:40:25 -0400 From: biggles Subject: missing ear, found Eye My first album bought with my own money was Jethro Tull, "Aqualung". It was the first step in a musical adventure that would pause briefly on Fairport Convention stop over on Richard Thompson and eventually lead me to Robyn Hitchcock's "Eye". So now the only question is, James, can I have my ear back now? cheers Biggles p.s. Mike, what's the difference between Michele Shocked's private version of "Kind Hearted Woman" and the commercial release? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:37:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: first album bought with own money On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Capuchin wrote: > album. But then again, she took away a Dead Milkmen album from me when I > was in ninth grade, so I guess she was just oppressively controlling. I sympathize. When I was 13 I went out and got an asymmetric haircut. This disturbed my father not a whit (in fact, he made it into a big old-fogey joke, "You better go get your money back, they cut your hair real funny", etc.) but gave my mother fits. Eventually she came up to me one day when I was sitting in the kitchen talking on the phone and began to snip it even.... > For the record: Never got into Dylan, Hendrix, Beach Boys, Floyd, Who, or > Rolling Stones. Of course anyone who likes anything made before '77 has to be into any and all of these bands and everything they ever recorded, right? :) :) > I have one Beatles album (Revolver) but generally > consider them pretty good, but too big to wrap myself around. 11 officially released albums (11 and a half if you count the "Yellow Submarine" soundtrack) isn't that large an output to wrap around. Dylan is a much more daunting proposition, relatively speaking. > See, I find > myself not really digging into any particular genre Oh I do. I am a classic rocker. (snicker smirk) > so much as particular > artists. What makes you think other people arent the same way? :):) It could just be (as in fact it is) that I love the Beatles. I love the Kinks, the Who, and Dylan, never much cared for the Stones, think PInk Floyd was a wash after they lost Syd, never much cared for Hendrix though I could see why others did, loathe and revile Led Zeppelin, etc. etc. In fact much of what I consider classic material from the 60s and 70s never makes it onto classic rock or oldies playlists (all Zeppelin and Eagles, all the razzafraggin time! :)). And for the record I'm not a whole lot older than you are :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:58:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, John Littlejohn wrote: > This was up there courage-wise with Big Star's playing Beatles/Byrds > influenced pop-rock in the early 70s and the Soft Boys doing the same > thing a few years later. Huh? The SBs always sounded to me like nothing so much as a head-on Beatles/Beefheart trainwreck. "Can of Bees" is pop-rock? If it is then somebody will have to figure out another name for what Matthew Sweet plays :). Anyway, actually I think that -was- courageous. I also think the first Modern Lovers album was musically courageous for its time (pause and think about what else was going on in rock and roll at the time- critics and listeners alike have had a lot of notions shaken up and stirred since 1977). If this is what you are implying then I agree with you. > Desperately seeking Susan, > Re: homoerotic Hitchcock > Wax Doll's "if I were man enough I'd come on your stump" > plus Queen of Eyes, Queen Elvis, Veins of the Queen, Beautiful Queen > perhaps Sometimes I wish I was a pretty girl Hmm....all of these are somewhat ambiguous to me, with the exception of "Beautiful Queen", which I did read as definitely being about a woman (actually I read it as specifically inspired by Michelle, but it doesn't necessarily have to be) and "Pretty Girl", which I read as being mostly about being lonely and sexually hungry for a specific woman, though of course it is possible (and great fun :)) to come up with other interpretations. Actually, since "Wax Doll" has come up- does anyone else see B/D overtones in that one or am I the only perv in the house? To Nick W.- well, I'm quite a bit younger than you but I also had a rocord player in a box with one speaker in the front. It was an Emerson Swingmate, it had 33, 45, and 78 and you could stack a huge pile of singles or LPs on it. I've been looking for another one in thrift stores and Salvation Armys for a couple years now. As I got older I inherited my mom's old high-school hi fi set, a HUGE beautfiul solid piece of furniture that dominated my room, with built-in speakers, a large drawer for record storage, and shortwave and FM/AM radio with a large lit up display. I loved that thing so much that when I got a smaller, more "modern" stereo set one Christmas I just set it on top of the hi-fi and let it gather dust, to my parents' great chagrin- they just thought the hi-fi cabinet was an outdated white elephant of a thing and that of course I would want a brand spanking new all-in-one modern plastic creation. They sold my beauty when I went away to school (needless to say without telling me, knowing I'd object), much to mine. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Subject: Gay Sir Robyn. . . . Date: Sat, 21 Jun 97 11:22:16 -0000 From: The Great Quail Susan writes (and hey! It's about Robyn and sex!): >ObRobyn (it's about fucking time)- I was very curious about something. On >the Lovelines tape he says something about being bisexual but >not "practicing", and also comments that he has the occasional homosexual >fantasy and had "written songs about men". Aside from the obvious case of >"Ted, Woody, and Junior", which might these be? This is intriguing to say >the least. Does anyone know if his experience with bisexuality goes deeper >than the standard schoolboy fumblings? Well, I read an interview with him in some magazine or other in (I think) 1987 or so, and I remember two things clearly: In it he revealed that he did not do drugs - other than having "dropped acid a half dozen times," which he said he didn't do anymore. He also claimed that he was not gay, but "Like all other normal English schoolboys" had a few homosexual dalliances when he was in school, or college, or prep school, or - you know, whatever the English call those places that seem to produce people that go on to write "The Wall" and "The Headmaster Ritual" and so on. And I suppose it is common knowledge, but TW&J was written in response to those old Muscle Magazines that some gay men would read before the world loosened up a little and began printing stuff like Playgirl. (Of course, all my gay friends insist they read it just for the articles.) The Quail ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Subject: Frog and Thoth are Friends. . . . Date: Sat, 21 Jun 97 11:22:24 -0000 From: The Great Quail >Um, this word was presumably *transliterated* from Egyptian(?), wasn't >it? By someone who had at least a functional knowledge of English >phonetics? So if it's not pronounced "Thoth," why is it spelled >"Thoth?" My guess would be the Germans - they did a lot of Egyptology - and, er, tomb robbing - and in German "Thoth" is pronounced "TOTE." >Second (er, fifth) question -- does the word come from a living >language? If so, how do native speakers say it, and if not, then >aren't we *all* twirling our fingers in cans of baked beans? Well, ancient Egyptian is pretty well dead, and If my facts are straight (and I am far from my preciousss bookses right now) I don't thing ancient Egyptian names had *any* real set pronounciation. I am pretty sure they didn't even include vowels in the writing, similarly to old Hebrew. So variants are allowed. Quail PS: Oh, yes, the "frog" part of tonight's program: My first tape I bought with my own allowance money was "The Muppet Movie" soundtrack, at K-Mart, whatever year the movie came out. I still have it, and listen to it frequently, though it does squeek and wobble a bit, like a drunken mouse trying to pull his tail away from a malevolent three year old. ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:01:32 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > Huh? The SBs always sounded to me like nothing so much as a head-on > Beatles/Beefheart trainwreck. "Can of Bees" is pop-rock? If it is then > somebody will have to figure out another name for what Matthew Sweet plays > :). Anyway, actually I think that -was- courageous. I also think the first > Modern Lovers album was musically courageous for its time (pause and think > about what else was going on in rock and roll at the time- critics and > listeners alike have had a lot of notions shaken up and stirred since > 1977). If this is what you are implying then I agree with you. I was in earnest about the Soft Boys/Modern Lovers/Big Star being courageous (hence the lack of happy faces) because they were playing the kind of music they wantend to play, even though it went against the grain of what was selling at the time. Okay, so Can of Bees is only about half pop-rock, but Underwater Moonlight... And I can think of a couple of things to call what Matthew Sweet plays. -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: T. Rex Yet another one of my broad music questions that I won't ask the appropriate group because they're too hero-worshippy to give me a real answer, but this is one of those more answerable things.. In light of the success of Marilyn Manson, due to his imitation of KISS and Ozzy, I want to imitate Marc Bolan/T. Rex. Problem is, I don't know how. So...how can I be an Electric Warrior too? (for that matter, I wouldn't mind tips on being a "Wizard"-era Acoustic Warrior either) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is our saviour and he was your friend, he was. normal@grove.ufl.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .