From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #140 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 140 Friday June 20 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- The Importance Of Being Famous Re: A Tale of the CD Revolution (was: First Album Purchased) Dylan Show CD BBC Radio1 RE: Deirdre Got the Boot / HUGO LARGO (1% robyn) Re: First album, Terry's problem, Dolls - LONG! (noRH) Antmusic (no Antwoman) Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) first cd bought with own money. Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq Re: Sections (0% RH) Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq Re: Metal machine muzak Re: lady dodge and the shirted one Re: first album bought with own money re: first records... Re: t-shirt quote (the first of several posts this morning) Re: Votes, &c. (post II) Re: first album bought with own money RE: (1% robyn) Expounding on the one percent. Re: first records... Re: (RH 0%) first album bought with own money Re: first album bought with own money Re: first cd bought with own money. first album bought with own money first buys Re: first cd bought with own money. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:38:57 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: The Importance Of Being Famous Sparked by Terry's unending collegiate questions, here are my own cynical thoughts regarding the labels "important" and "famous" as they are applied to music artists: "Famous": has your typical teenager ever heard of them? They don't necessarily have to have ever listened to this band or artist, but they must be able to use them in a well-formed sentence (eg. "Green Day sucks." or "My dad listens to Joy Division."), and their friends must be able to nod blankly in agreement, either truly agreeing or just pretending so as not to be seen as uncool. "Important": would your typical teenager actually like this artist if they could strip away all their desires to conform and just listen? If said teenager started up a garage band, might they consider covering this artist? When they come to realize that their current favs were actually influenced by said "important" artist, are they willing to give this artist a listen? Terms such as these (labels, categories, etc) are extremely relative and subjective. Any attempt to define them in anything other than a tongue-in-cheek way is pointless. I don't consider most of the artists I listen to be famous or important, which is absolutely fine (unless I was a teenager, that is!) Music is art, not quantum physics. * Relevant aside: my step-son asked me the other day as I was playing a Julian Cope CD in the car, "Was he ever famous?" Muzik non-stop, Mike "Runion To Stand Still" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:52:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: A Tale of the CD Revolution (was: First Album Purchased) On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Della & Steve Schiavo wrote: > >(any Dallas, TX natives present remember a store called the Melody Shop? > > :)). > > In ages past, they had a store across the street from SMU. It had little > pegboard cubicles with built-in turntables so you could listen to the 45s. > They later had a store at North Park Mall (yes, Susan?) that also sold > musical instruments. Their record prices were high. I dimly, dimly baby remember the SMU one. When I was a wee tyke my parents lived near that area. I think that one was gone much earlier than the Northpark one (I'm almost positive that at one time -both- were operating, but I will have to consult the parentals), maybe 1980 or so but I'm not 100 percent. The Northpark Mall one was where all my babysitting money went, anyway, and the one I really remember :). It's gone now too. Their chief failure (and my chief delight as a budding music fiend of 13) was their absolute refusal to acknowledge the cd revolution. Perhaps this would have been alright if they had become a USED record store, but they remained focused on new vinyl and instruments. This probably explains why I remember the prices being anything but high. Towards the end their record prices were -extremely- good, as they were just trying to get all that vinyl the hell out of there. I think they shut down sometime in 1985-6 and the space became a tie boutique or some such nonsense. Among items purchased there: too many singles to list!, "Help" and "Never Mind the Bollocks" (at the same time, to the bemusement of the clerk), Dream Syndicate "The Days of Wine and Roses", David Bowie "Station to Station", Roxy Music "Avalon".......lots of stuff :). It is one of my many regrets that I was out of town on their last day of business. Anyroad......... To MR Godwin- wouldn't "Come Dancing" be the Kinks' last top 10 single? Suprising to me 'Apeman" made the top 5! To Ross- Stewart Goddard (aka Adam Ant) was his own creation. The only idea he got from McLaren was the imitation "tribal drumming". In fact, in a typical clever-that-ended-up-not-so-clever McLaren screw job, he got 200 pounds for an "image consultation" from the young Adam Ant (who was already Adam Ant by this time :)) and then lured away (ahem) Mr. Ant's backup band (and made them into Bow Wow Wow). This was a blessing in disguise as one of the newly formed Adam and the Ants' aces in the hole was the sharp and stylin' Marco Pirrone on guitar who contributed a lot of that band's edge. Interestingly enough, for his final project at art college (St. Martin's), the soon to be Adam Ant was supposed to write a paper on a contemporary work of art, and chose Bryan Ferry :). Don't ask me how I know all this! Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 09:04:34 Subject: Dylan Show CD OK I haven't been keeping my thumb on the pulse of the group like usual, but I vaguely remeber some posts about the cd of the Dylan show and someone suggesting it was from the Feg tape tree....I don't think so....I think someone else taped it.....the sound to mike distance sounds different between the cd and the tape....anyoneone else notice this or is it just all the crack I'm smoking at work? Cheers Jay ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 6/20/97 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 09:09:06 Subject: BBC Radio1 Oh, For those interested and into the RealAudio am-radio quality internet sound thingee....BBC has put Radio1 and its shows including Kershaw and Peel on-line for net broadcast....it seems to be a taping of the previous show so the none UK crowd doesn't have to stay up all night.... http://www.bbc.co.uk click on "UK radio" then "music" then "radio1" then "listening booth" its those gawd awful frames so there is no direct addressable URL for the booth Cheers Jay ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 6/20/97 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Jeff Vaska Subject: RE: Deirdre Got the Boot / HUGO LARGO (1% robyn) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:36:45 -0700 eb writ, >Eb, who discovered Hugo Largo... HUGO LARGO is quite excellent, but I have a question - did they record more than two albums? Also, Hahn Rowe (of HL) produced some tracks on David Byrne's new record and Mimi Goese is currently recording a new record for Luaka Bop (also a David Byrne thing). And while I'm on the subject, does anybody know why David Byrne is mentioned in "Freeze" (that's the title correct?). Is there some connection between the two? Ta-ra...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:39:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: First album, Terry's problem, Dolls - LONG! On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Ross Overbury wrote: > Susan rikala: RICO-LA!!!!! (sorry, US advertising reference :)) > You're not gonna like this, but it took me a long time to get past > Brian Ferry's schtick to the music. It did happen eventually. Actually I deeply relish the schtick of which you speak. This is probably why I enjoy stuff like Adam Ant so much. > There was no golden age, just a time when the industry was so confused > by its own popularity they didn't know what to do to control it. I can sort of see what you're saying here, actually. But there was always a time when some records made it to the radio and some did not. If you can get ahold of it I would recommend Dave Marsh's "Louie Louie"- not because Dave Marsh is such a fabulous writer, but because the book is chock full of fascinating information about the Pacific Northwest garage scene of the early-mid 60s, from which sprang the Kingsmens' version of "Louie Louie", The Sonics, Paul Revere and the Raiders (talk about a good schtick! :)), and other lesser known but well worth seeking bands of the era. Also there is the very amusing tale of the FBI's attempts to find out the REAL dirty lyrics to "Louie Louie", of which maybe hundreds of versions were circulating in high schools throughout the US (many of which are in the book). It's a fascinating bit of folk history. > often with the medium. Now the FM station here sounds like their AM > sister station sounded in '70. The AM station has gone to the Devil's > Radio format. Yeah, true. I listen mostly to college radio and NPR now, with the occasional foray into AM to catch old radio dramas on one of the all-news stations that plays them every night at midnight. I never knew the days when commercial stations were daring, that's way before me time. > the same rack at one time. Today I walk into the CD store near my > office and I see a Metal section, a Rock section, a Rap section, an > Alternative section and a Dance/Trance section. Erm, at the record stores near me it's all in the same bin except for the rap being a separate section. (shrug) Lecture on the sheer bogus lameness of the term "alternative" clipped in the interests of time and length :). > as it ever was. It's a matter of degree, though; there was in the > past the soul/rock barrier that served neither side particularly well. Which was broken down briefly in the early 60s by Motown, The Sound of Young America (although the deeper stuff still never made much headway on the white charts), seemingly re-erected, and seems now to be more or less gone for good. But as -you- said in an earlier post, of course this is a generalization :). > Lydon went on to produce what I'm told is worthwhile material. I > believe it. What do you think about what he did with the Pistols? Was > that Lydon, or Rotten the Maclaren creation? The point still stands. Did McLaren do the writing? Did McLaren do the performing? Did McLaren dress them before they went on stage? Did McLaren take any of the gobs in the eye or any of the beatings in the street? 'Nuff said. As far as I can see he mainly strutted around claiming to be a genius and grossly mismanaging finances and having stupid ideas like having them go to Rio to record with Ronnie Biggs (he did come up with the band name, which was his main contribution as far as I see it). The Sex Pistols existed as a band pre-McLaren, actually, the main connection to McLaren being that original bassist Glen Matlock worked at "Sex". It is true that Lydon had never dreamed of fronting a band before he was spotted in the Kings' Road wearing an "I Hate Pink Floyd" tshirt, but the lyrical nastiness was all his once he got there. When Lydon left the Pistols McLaren actually held auditions for a new band leader and he picked TENPOLE TUDOR! So much for his famous pop acumen. Anyway, yes, the early Public Image Limited stuff is well worth seeking out, though I wouldn't bother with any of their recent material. Lydon himself has said he thinks it's crap as well, so there you have it from the horse's mouth :). > I plead ignorance to "Raw Power" Iggy and the Stooges. It's an aptly named record. > and the Sonics. Fabulous Seattle garage band. Guitarist Fred "Sonic" Smith died recently. You may have heard of his widow, Patti :). > Richman was later. Actually the first album (the one that is considered influential in this context, anyway) was produced by John Cale (who covered "Pablo Picasso" himself on 1977's "Slow Dazzle") in 1973. Though not officially released it was certainly in circulation before '77 via the usual unoffical routes. > The MC5 were not part of the publicised punk phenomenon. I was thinking of punk in perhaps a much larger contextual framework. I would consider the MC5 influential in terms of their sound and their attitude and having the balls to leave "motherfucker!" on their record :). > Then again, > Costello had plenty of substance behind the showbiz persona. Who brought -him- up? :) > oversimplification, as I said. It was a posting to a mail list, not a > book! I think perhaps we should collaborate on said book and quit burdening the list with all this :). I'm -trying- not to write volumes, I swear it, it's just these are complex questions. Perhaps there is some generalized "rock and roll geek list" where this can continue? :) Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:44:25 -0500 From: Hal Brandt Subject: (noRH) Antmusic (no Antwoman) Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > Stewart Goddard (aka Adam Ant) was his own creation. > (etc. etc.) > Don't ask me how I know all this! I remember seeing Adam and the Ants U.S. network television debut on "Tomorrow" (with Tom Snyder) lip-synching their silly self-referential song about "Antmusic". My only impression was that Adam stole the pirate-brocade look from Jimi Hendrix. I was surprised that he went on to become an MTV darling. I guess he was fairly videogenic, but I believe the model in the "Strip" video is what kept the guys watching (wasn't she Amanda Donahoe (sp?) from L.A. Law and Ken Russell's "The Lair of the White Worm?) I was not surprised when "antmusic" didn't make Adam "bigger than The Beatles". hal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:23:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Antmusic (and some sincere Robyn questions towards the end) On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Hal Brandt wrote: > silly self-referential song about "Antmusic". My only impression > was that Adam stole the pirate-brocade look from Jimi Hendrix. The pirate look was only one of many in the Ant arsenal, which had a lot more to do with Roxy/Bowie than it ever did with Jimi Hendrix. The music, oddly enough, owed as much to 50s rock as to punk, probably more- Adam's gift for "naughty" innuendo reminds me of nothing so much as the likes of Little Richard and Chuck Berry. The thing about "Antmusic" being silly and "bigger than the Beatles" and all that......well, I think basically this is very much a matter of taste. I totally dig the camp and theater of it, the idea of a guy renaming himself something like that and coming up with ideas like dominating the world with antmusic :). Either you like this sort of self-conscious theatricality or you don't, I guess, and I find it fascinating and superbly entertaining (in fact I am in general fascinated with pop manifestos and such, which is why I liked the idea of putting the Fegmania one on the tshirt so much). He wasn't really trying to be bigger or better than the Beatles at all- he was trying to be Mr. Showbiz Saturday night and was quite clear on that from the get go. I wish I'd been there when he chained himself to amps and invited audience members to come onstage and whip him! Apropos of absolutely nothing, the tunes are also damn catchy! :) > in the "Strip" video is what kept the guys watching (wasn't she > Amanda Donahoe (sp?) from L.A. Law and Ken Russell's "The Lair > of the White Worm?) I believe so. I know he was dating her at the time. Anyway, enough already! ObRobyn (it's about fucking time)- I was very curious about something. On the Lovelines tape he says something about being bisexual but not "practicing", and also comments that he has the occasional homosexual fantasy and had "written songs about men". Aside from the obvious case of "Ted, Woody, and Junior", which might these be? This is intriguing to say the least. Does anyone know if his experience with bisexuality goes deeper than the standard schoolboy fumblings? Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:30:36 -0700 From: Lobsterman Subject: first cd bought with own money. Love and Rockets--- Earth Sun Moon, 1988. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Lobsterman + (John B. Jones) + lobstie@e-znet world wide web- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones house of figgy (24-7)- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html I'm on a reigning twilight coast.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:30:51 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq I have been deluged by three e-mails suggesting that the Kinks' "Come Dancing" was a UK top 10 record. I just sneaked off to Waterstone's in my tea break and consulted M G Strong's "Great Rock Encyclopaedia", which gives it as reaching number 12 in 1983. So, like 'Supersonic Rocket Ship', it never made the UK top 10 (although it got to number 6 in the USA). I missed the post on punk music, but here are some thorts anyway: The MC5 are a punk band by any except the narrowest definition. The Modern Lovers, asserted on a recent crap TV prog to be founding fathers of punk, are much too POSITIVE to be a punk band - "I'm in love with the modern world - put down your cigarette and try to act like a true girl" has, as a sentiment, nothing whatever in common with "I'm a lazy sod" "Blank generation" or "London's Burning". But "The human being lawnmower" certainly has. And when the MC5 sing "I'm so glad I'm living in the USA" they are being _sarcastic_. Lydon has made some wonderful records both with and since the Pistols, my favourites being Public Image's"Flowers of Romance" (which is almost as good as Wreckless Eric's "Semaphore Signals from the Green Belt") and Time Zone's "World Destruction". And I heard a nice new one on the radio they other day, so he's still at it... - hssmrg "Little Orphan Annie and Sweet Sue too they keep coming around cos there's nothing to do" - Fred Smith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 09:18:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Sections (0% RH) >Today I walk into the CD store near my >office and I see a Metal section, a Rock section, a Rap section, an >Alternative section and a Dance/Trance section. Tell me that's the same >as it ever was. It's a matter of degree, though; there was in the >past the soul/rock barrier that served neither side particularly well. These separate sections in record stores smack of genreism and I think it's a disgrace. I for one envision a world when the 64 year old Gershwin fan can shop side by side in the same aisle with the 14 year old Gwar fan. All the recordings in my home live on the same shelf in total harmony, undivided by categories. It's been that way for over 20 years and I've never had a problem. If anyone ever says anything negative about it I ask them to leave (I'm a man with principles, after all). Come one, people, this is 1997...can't our records all just get along? -russ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:38:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Kinks encore une fois, aussi les MC cinq 1-2-3-4-5-6!!!!! On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > The MC5 are a punk band by any except the narrowest definition. The Modern > Lovers, asserted on a recent crap TV prog to be founding fathers of punk, > are much too POSITIVE to be a punk band - "I'm in love with the modern > world - put down your cigarette and try to act like a true girl" has, as a > sentiment, Once again I find myself in a defensive posture :). I think the founding father label is attached to Richman mostly on a musical and dare I say it, fashion basis. There weren't many people running round in '73 with short haircuts, for one thing, and playing VU inspired straight-ahead rock and roll. I would also say that that album had some extremely dark moments, and that in fact the overall tone of that record is overwhelmingly sorrowful and despairing. To me "Modern World" and "Roadrunner" are desperate attempts to assert that there is still beauty, still hope in such a bleak emotional landscape, and doesn't "Girlfriend" sound more desperate than it does anything else, as well? Richman never again plumbed the depths that he did in songs like "Hospital" ("When you get out of the hospital/Let me back into your life"). I never fail to get a lump in my throat at the line about going to bakeries because of "a lack of sweetness in my life". It was the simplicity of his music relative to most of what was currently popular and his searing emotional honesty that leads some of us to include him along with the rest of le movement punque. Why should a desperately tragic emotional declaration of no future be "less punk" than a snarling politically oriented one? > Lydon has made some wonderful records both with and since the Pistols, my > favourites being Public Image's"Flowers of Romance" Wasn't "the Flowers of Romance" what he called a mythical early wannabe punk band that included Siouxsie and Marco Pirrone, among others? Love on ya, Susan going for the "most frequent use of the word desperate in one paragraph" award ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:28:50 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Metal machine muzak On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Ken Ostrander wrote: > i found METAL MACHINE MUSIC on vinyl in a used record store [snip] > but to be honest, the album is difficult. a wash of guitar noise without > any other instrumentation. Guitar noise, eh? You don't believe the sleeve note that says "No instruments(?)" then? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Subject: Re: lady dodge and the shirted one Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" > >Does anyone else find Lady Waters a drag to sit through? > >... > > however, i find the plague story, while old, fascinating. i haven't had the > time to properly investigate the roots of these kinds of tales, but i > recall that the motif is common plague folklore. i asked about this once > before on the list. as i said, i haven't looked into it any further. It seems obvious to me that the song was inspired by The Masque of the Red Death by Edgar Allen Poe. And the variation didn't seem too interesting. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Subject: Re: first album bought with own money Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" For me it must have been Division Bell, by Pink Floyd, which just shows my age. I listened to it recently, and it's utter cheese, with some laugh-out-loud lyrics, but there's no accounting for early musical tastes. Oh well. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:55:21 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: re: first records... On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Nick Winkworth wrote: > I'd be *so* proud if even the second record I bought had been by Fela > Kuti - it took me many many years to discover that stuff. His son's band played in London the other day - good big band, similar sound to FK according to the review I read. > First NEW album I bought with my own money: Strawbs - Grave New World Is that with Rick Wakeman or without? > In case you were wondering I played these on a "record player" Oh, well, better than making them into flower-pots! - Mike (concealing his Blue Peter badge under a Thoth button) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: t-shirt quote (the first of several posts this morning) On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 tanter@econs.umass.edu wrote: > I was going to stay out of this, but I've always liked this line from > "Birds in Perspex": "I was born with trousers on." I'm stumped at the moment, but isn't there a similar reference in some version of "When I Was A Kid"? I know I could check, but I don't know which version it's in. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Votes, &c. (post II) > On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Aidan Cully wrote: > > Votes: > > > > I don't think the phrase on the t-shirts should be "They might be fiends" > > because people might assume it's related to "They Might Be Giants". Agreed. They Might Be Fiends? Come on. The first time I saw it I thought "Hmm... They Might Be Giants". I don't think it's a wise choice. > or something else he writes/makes up for us. i agree it would be nice to > get it in his own words/handwriting/drawing. someone want to contact > antwoman or steve? I still haven't gotten around to writing my show review (today, I hope), but I came close two or three times to asking Robyn at Viva SeaTac II to doodle something for us kids and our silly T. I just felt it was kind of intrusive. Karen suggested against it as well... so it went undone. I buckled. J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: first album bought with own money > > >i'd be interested to know the first albums you all bought "with your own > > >money." mine was FREEZE FRAME, by the J. Geils Band, though the first > > >rock album i owned was Kiss Alive I, which my mom gave me for EASTER! I feel so young. I bought violent femmes self-titled debut with my own money at the end of fourth grade (mid-1984). My mother took it away from me twice over the years and each time I had to sneak into her bedroom and steal it back. She's not a smart woman and didn't realize she was taking away the same album. But then again, she took away a Dead Milkmen album from me when I was in ninth grade, so I guess she was just oppressively controlling. I think the second album I bought was Depeche Mode "Black Celebration". Probably late 1984 as well... then I went on an Oingo Boingo kick for the next several years. For the record: Never got into Dylan, Hendrix, Beach Boys, Floyd, Who, or Rolling Stones. I have one Beatles album (Revolver) but generally consider them pretty good, but too big to wrap myself around. See, I find myself not really digging into any particular genre so much as particular artists. I find I love absolutely everything by, say, Oingo Boingo, but can't stand Adam Ant. Just the way my world works. Next! J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: (1% robyn) Expounding on the one percent. On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Jeff Vaska wrote: > And while I'm on the subject, does anybody know why David Byrne is > mentioned in "Freeze" (that's the title correct?). Is there some > connection between the two? I have no idea if there's a connection between the two, but a friend and I (her a great grammarian and scholar, me a hobbyist of such things) had this big discussion that brought in a professor of english or two about the reference to David Byrne in Freeze. "And he wrote my name next to yours, when it should have been David Byrne or somebody." So the question was: What should have been David Byrne or somebody? I always thought the name should have been "David Byrne" instead of 'my n ame' (assumedly Robyn Hithcock if the singer is the speaker). My dear friend thought perhaps that David Byrne should be the name in place 'yours' (whoever the song is intended to be addressing). One english professor agreed that it is, indeed, ambiguous, but both of us are wrong because, grammatically, David Byrne or somebody should have done the writing instead of the 'he' in the subject. So instead of the fellow who wrote the Book of Love writing 'my name next to yours', David Byrne should have done that. Weird, huh? Thoughts? J. ________________________________________________________ J A Brelin Capuchin ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:49:15 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth CC: "Bonde M'Teko" Subject: Re: first records... Mike wrote: > > First NEW album I bought with my own money: Strawbs - Grave New World > > Is that with Rick Wakeman or without? It was the first album after Rick left, and was a real departure for the band, hailed at the time as "the folk rock Sergeant Pepper"! The real reason I bought it was the amazing sleeve art. (you can see it at: http://users.aol.com/Strawbs525/about/gnw25.htm ) > > In case you were wondering I played these on a "record player" > > Oh, well, better than making them into flower-pots! No use obfuscating, Mike... *You* know what I'm talking about. You remember the turntable inside the box (lift the lid), the (one) speaker on the front? Ours was a Furguson, I think. Kids today don't know they're born. Five channel digital sound indeed! We 'ad it 'ard. In my day, we had to play records by licking the grooves with our tongue...etc. etc.. ~N Who doesn't have a Thoth button to hide *his* Blue Peter badge with :( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:11:42 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Re: (RH 0%) first album bought with own money Capuchin wrote: > I feel so young. Whew, and I thought I was one of the younger ones on this list (I'll be 30 in 21 days)! > For the record: Never got into Dylan, Hendrix, Beach Boys, Floyd, Who, or > Rolling Stones. I have one Beatles album (Revolver) but generally > consider them pretty good, but too big to wrap myself around. See, I find > myself not really digging into any particular genre so much as particular > artists. I find I love absolutely everything by, say, Oingo Boingo, but > can't stand Adam Ant. Just the way my world works. It's my experience that a sustained period of drought in popular, readily available music (what we're in right now) leads the music addict to one of two choices: (1) seek out the hard to find, the new and unheard, the first stirrings of possible future greatness, or (2) delve into the wealth of past greatness. Until the last few years, I've always done the first. Now, nearing 30 and firmly realizing that the world's been around a lot longer than my measly generation, I wholeheartedly do number 2 (no bathroom jokes, please). I'm ashamed to say that my first Dylan, Hendrix and Beach Boys records were all bought post '94. I also revisited and expanded my Beatles and Pink Floyd collections during short but entrancing times of obsession. Well-roundedness is a virtue...and also very expensive. Mike "Runion Out Of Living..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:29:38 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Buttafuoco) Subject: Re: first album bought with own money Actually, I bought two albums (tapes) with my own money: Elvis Costello, "Spike" Tom Petty, "Full Moon Fever" Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:32:22 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Buttafuoco) Subject: Re: first cd bought with own money. My first CD was, eh, Milli Vanilli. Gimme a break! I was only in the sixth grade. Brett ------------------------------ From: Terry_Linnig@hccompare.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 14:58:29 cst Subject: first album bought with own money 1st album - The Knack 'Get The Knack' 1st tape - ACDC 'Back in Black' 1st cd - Love & Rockets 'Express' ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 15:26:24 Subject: first buys lp - KC and the Sunshine Band III 8 track - Full Moon - Kieth Moon cassette - Queens Greatest Hits CD - Dark Side of the Moon, Strangers in the Night - Sinatra, REM Murrmur (all three at once, and I remember bitching about how cd's were compared to records) ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 6/20/97 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:33:08 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: Re: first cd bought with own money. First record: purchased in 1965 with birthday money, Beatles 2nd Album First concert: Cheap Trick, Egyptian Theater, De Kalb, IL. 1975 Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .