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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- RE: Addicted to noise has Robyn news today Re: I want...to be...a cowboy Re: Element Of Light Re: I want...to be...a cowboy metal machine muzak Re: Element Of Light Element of woj RE: Addicted to noise has Robyn news today Re: I want...to be...a cowboy RE: Aniston FWD: RE: t-shirt quote Re: t-shirt quote Re: Metal machine muzak oops--forwarded the wrong one! Re: t-shirt quote ------------------------------ From: Cynthia Peterson Subject: RE: Addicted to noise has Robyn news today Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:13:23 -0700 >check it out! someone send it to the list as an email file, will ya?? its not too long. Here ya go...didn't take long at all. I note that on the Addicted to Noise site, there is a little RA symbol by today's date...can someone check and see if there are any audio tidbits? (Due to an unfortunate firewall problem, I am unable to get RealAudio files.) CP --------------------------------------------- R.E.M.'s Peter Buck & Robyn Hitchcock Jam & Record In Seattle Renaissance rockers appear in 'Popsycle Shop Incident: Viva Sea Tac II.' Addicted To Noise Senior Writer Gil Kaufman reports: Given their restless Renaissance men reputations, it's inevitable that Robyn Hitchcock, Peter Buck and Scott McCaughey would hook up and record together at some point. Former Soft Boy Hitchcock, forever sitting on a batch of new tunes, Buck, who, while moonlighting from R.E.M., has found time to tour and record with Mark Eitzel and his own side-band, Tuatara, and the Young Fresh Fellows' McCaughey, who's toured with R.E.M. and released several all-star albums with his other side-band, the Minus Five, got together in Seattle last Friday to put on a three-hour jam called "Popsycle Shop Incident: Viva Sea Tac II." The show, which featured sets from the Young Fresh Fellows, Hitchcock, Peter Buck and various combinations of the above, took place at Seattle's Crocodile Cafe, owned, not coincidentally, by Buck's wife, Stephanie Dorgan. The mess of musicians, which also included Tim Keegan of the English band Homer (a frequent Hitchcock live band member), ended up crowding the stage near the end of the show to toss off ragged covers of the Soft Boys' "Give It To the Soft Boys" and Bob Dylan's "Tell Me Mama," as well as a song Hitchcock wrote expressly for the second-annual event, "Viva Sea Tac," an homage to his gathering of good friends, whose name is itself an homage to the Seattle/Tacoma Airport. The inaugural Sea Tac show took place in 1994 and featured Hitchcock jamming with the Young Fresh Fellows on an evening's-worth of Soft Boys covers. Hitchcock wrapped-up his U.S. tour in Seattle on June 9 and spent the rest of the week rehearsing for a recording session with Keegan, Buck, McCaughey, various Young Fresh Fellows and the Fastbacks' Kurt Bloch. The collective laid down five songs that Hitchcock's Warner Brothers publicist, Rick Gershon, said could end up on "a couple of different albums." Gershon speculated that a few were certain to crop up on Hitchcock's next studio effort for Warner (following the soundtrack to his upcoming Jonathan Demme (Silence of the Lambs) - directed concert film, Storefront Hitchcock, due in February '98), which the label doesn't expect before the end of 1998. "Some of it was also recorded under the name Popsycle Shoppe Incident," said Gershon, referring to the amalgamated group of musicians under the guise of yet another McCaughey side project. Gershon hinted that Popsycle, named after a tune on the most recent Minus Five album, The Lonesome Death of Buck McCoy, might make their debut within the next year on an EP from McCaughey's label, Malt Records. Gershon told ATN that Hitchcock has tentative plans to return to Seattle in August and coordinate another "Sea Tac" show, with the working title, "Sea Tac 2 1/2," if the various band members can be corralled in time. Hitchcock unveiled a number of new tunes at the Friday night show, including: "Jewels for Sophia," "Elizabeth Jade" and the intriguing-sounding "Don't Talk to Me about Gene Hackman." ------------------------------ From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:44:48 -0700 Subject: Re: I want...to be...a cowboy Eb applied his patented fuzzy-eye remover: >>mark wrote: >>> i'd love to hear him cover Lonesome >>>Cowboy Bill. > >>D'ja mean Lonesome Cowboy Bert, the classic Zappa ditty and my >>favorite all-around country tune? >No, he meant VU's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill." And he didn't mean Pere Ubu's >"Lonesome Cowboy Dave" either. :) There would appear to be a glut of lonesome male personages who smell of hay and horsepucky in the dating scene. Yet Bayard is _still_ available? >And by the way, if your favorite country tune is by FRANK ZAPPA, I think >you're rather lacking in country-music appreciation. ;) Not sure what mine >would be, but it would almost certainly be something by Gram Parsons >("Brass Buttons," "$1000 Wedding," "Hot Burrito #1"....). Perhaps you underestimate Frank's brilliance as a tunesmith. Yea, I'm also not a big country fan, but I like a good song no matter what flag you hang on it. GP is a really good songwriter. Other possible answer, I deeply appreciate country music- but not in my ears. -Markg, working on outdoing Susan and Terry today. Lonesome cowboy Bert. Peekin' atcha! Lonesome cowboy Bert. Reakin' atcha! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:11:24 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: Re: Element Of Light also sprach Tom Clark: >The wonderfull Woj of Noise took the bulls by the horns and sent a >message to the Antwoman people. Looking forward to hearing from them. all: got a note back from antwoman -- she recommends contacting management proper (i.e., steve whatever his last name is -- anyone know?). i believe i have his fax number around here somewhere, so i shall do that shortly. tom: please send me your fax, so i can tell them how to contact you. +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:58:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: I want...to be...a cowboy >Eb applied his patented fuzzy-eye remover: Huh? :) >Perhaps you underestimate Frank's brilliance as a tunesmith. Yea, I'm >also not a big country fan, but I like a good song no matter what flag you >hang on it. I don't underestimate him at all. Continuing the ongoing dorky Eb-count motif, I have *22* albums by Frank Zappa -- Bob Dylan and the Beatles are the only artists who top that number in my collection. But when it comes to country, I would think that anything by Zappa in this realm would have to be purely a snide, satirical, mean-spirited sort of thing -- him making fun of C&W's simplicity, I suspect (a la "Harder Than Your Husband?"). I mean, I KNOW I've heard him make fun of '60s folk-rock in interviews because the chords were so simple.... Incidentally, over on the Elvis Costello list right now, SEVERAL people have made "I just never could 'get' Zappa" sorts of comments. Interesting. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:56:18 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: metal machine muzak also sprach The Great Quail: >and I know it is long, but I personally am all for having the whole "What >is Fegmania?" manifesto printed on the back, so trust nothing I say. that's not as ridiculous as the quail makes it sound like. i've printed up t-shirts with texts as long as the fegmania essay on their back which are quite readable -- even without resorting to all upper-case letters (feh!) or sans-serif fonts (i think i used lucinda bright -- a personal favorite). >but I have also listened to Diamanda Galas' "Plague Mass" im its entirety, i remember the first time i heard diamanda -- scared the living shit out of me, she did. now, i find her music quite soothing. go figure. >The hardest album though - one I have NOT been able to make my way >through in one sitting - is the CD "Torture Garden" by the John Zorn hmmm. i don't find that album nearly as extreme as galas' work. zorn and yamatsuka eye just screech a lot, which isn't hard to handle. now, in combination with the album cover art, you may have a valid complaint though. i'll up the ante on this one: i saw the second show torture garden ever played in the states at the knitting factory in 1990 (the first was the early show, a couple hours before, which i would have been at as well if not for some traffic getting near the holland tunnel). unbefucking*lieve*ably great. i think the most "unlistenable" album i have is c.c.c.c.'s _loud sounds dopa_ which is 60 or so minutes of churning white noise. with headphones, one of the most physically cathartic pieces of music i've ever experienced -- rivalled only by standing scant inches away from my bloody valentine's pa system when they toured in support of _loveless_. despite all this (and many other noise-type recordings i love and adore), i've never heard _metal machine music_, though it's been on the list of things to get someday for a long time. +w n.p. roy harper - bbc tapes volujme 5 (in concert 1975) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:02:20 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Element Of Light On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 "C Spot" Runion (yes, that's *my* fave) spouted: > I popped in EoL last night for the first time in forever and realized > once more how much I love that album. Amazing. I did exactly the same thing a couple of days ago. I've only known this one via the CD, but for me the bonus tracks still sound like bonus tracks. The album per-se works best by itself (not that I don't like having the bonus tracks, you understand) Isn't it great to come back to something after a while away, and find that it's really as good as you remember it. You should try it sometime, Terry! ~N ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:16:52 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Element of woj On Tue, 17 Jun 97 12:03 our cooler-than-markg-uberteeshirtenfuhrer wrote > The wonderfull Woj of Noise took the bulls by the horns and sent a > message to the Antwoman people. Looking forward to hearing from them. woj is indeed wunnerful. Maybe we should do some woj T-shirts too! ~N If anyone knows a way to get to Robyn/Steve directly *as well* I don't spose it would hurt... Antwoman probably have a lot of ex-wafflehead detritus to occupy them at the moment. PS green/shortsleeve/nopocket/frontsmalllogo/backrobynart/netquote/newURL PPS Now I'm all confused about the "x" - YOU choose! ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Addicted to noise has Robyn news today Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 16:16:51 -0700 From: Tom Clark "'fegmaniax@ecto.org'" On 6/17/97 2:13 PM, Cynthia Peterson stated emphatically: >I note that on the Addicted to >Noise site, there is a little RA symbol by today's date...can someone >check and see if there are any audio tidbits? Negatory. The RealAudio version doesn't even reference any of today's stories. -tc p.s. Looking back a few days, I saw that Courtney Cox and I share the same birthday! That must explain all those dreams I have about dancing with Bruce Springsteen. It also explains my bizarre lesbian desire for Jennifer Aniston! ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Beer is the only virtual reality I need." -Leroy Lockhorn ------------------------------ From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:30:11 -0700 Subject: Re: I want...to be...a cowboy >I don't underestimate him at all. Continuing the ongoing dorky Eb-count >motif, I have *22* albums by Frank Zappa -- Bob Dylan and the Beatles are >the only artists who top that number in my collection. >But when it comes to country, I would think that anything by Zappa in this >realm would have to be purely a snide, satirical, mean-spirited sort of >thing -- him making fun of C&W's simplicity, I suspect (a la "Harder Than >Your Husband?"). I mean, I KNOW I've heard him make fun of '60s folk-rock >in interviews because the chords were so simple.... It is mean spirited, funny, and all those things. I also like it. But I like "Harder Than Your Husband" too. >Incidentally, over on the Elvis Costello list right now, SEVERAL people >have made "I just never could 'get' Zappa" sorts of comments. Interesting. I like Elvis Costello, but he's not over-the-top like Frank was. I guess the Elvis faithful might feel threatened by such an alien creature. Robyn Hitchcock recently said in an interview that he was into everything except Frank Zappa in the sixties. Frank Zappa thanked Bob Dylan on his first album. I listen to RH + FZ, but I don't listen to BD much. The way I try to put it together for me is that I'm not wild about Bob Dylan, but just about every one of the people who influenced me were influenced by him, so if I don't get him he can still be okay. I'm sure I've managed to obscure any hope of a point. -markg mikerunion: E Plurbus Bunions? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:03:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Aniston Tom wrote: >p.s. Looking back a few days, I saw that Courtney Cox and I share the >same birthday! That must explain all those dreams I have about dancing >with Bruce Springsteen. It also explains my bizarre lesbian desire for >Jennifer Aniston! I have the same birthday as Marc Bolan (T. Rex) AND Barry Williams (T. Greg Brady). Beat that! ;) Also: Angie Dickinson, Deborah Kerr, Crystal Bernhard and Marty Stuart. Oh, and the Bramanti twins, whom I went to junior high/high school with. But perhaps that last part wasn't so interesting. ;) Eb, who got thoroughly over his attraction to Jennifer Aniston when she started parading her ass in every magazine in town ------------------------------ From: tanter@econs.umass.edu Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:28:55 -0400 Subject: FWD: RE: t-shirt quote Return-path: Received: from mailhub.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu) by oitvms.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #6523) id <01IK69QU68LS8ZE7FO@oitvms.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:12:43 -0400 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #20973) id <0EBX8P701001XL@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from guinness.edoc.com by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #20973) with SMTP id <0EBX8P5OY00M0H@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@econs.umass.edu; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.71.244.44] (foghorn.edoc.com [204.71.244.44]) by guinness.edoc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA27757 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:12:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:13:51 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: t-shirt quote In-reply-to: X-Sender: gene@204.71.244.2 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >I was going to stay out of this, but I've always liked this line from >"Birds in Perspex": "I was born with trousers on." > >Marcy T. :) D'oh! Howdy Marcy -- I suspect I sent a message to you yesterday, when I meant it to go to the Fegmaniax list. I apologize for the inconvenience if I freaked you out. Could you send the message back to me if it's not too much trouble? Thank you! __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 21:03:35 EDT Subject: Re: Metal machine muzak Woj sez: > despite all this (and many other noise-type recordings i love and adore), > i've never heard _metal machine music_, though it's been on the list of > things to get someday for a long time. I've never heard it, either. I thought I remember Lou Reed saying something about it being intentionally bad because it was meant as a contract breaker or contractual obligation album -- can't remember which. Can you Reed fans (I know you're out there) confirm or deny? -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ From: tanter@econs.umass.edu Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:59:10 -0400 Subject: oops--forwarded the wrong one! Return-path: Received: from mailhub.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu) by oitvms.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #6523) id <01IK5C0GH0848ZE7FO@oitvms.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:06:10 -0400 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #20973) id <0EBVZY901008II@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from guinness.edoc.com by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #20973) with SMTP id <0EBVZY9FH009CI@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@econs.umass.edu; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.71.244.44] (foghorn.edoc.com [204.71.244.44]) by guinness.edoc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA17329 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:06:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:07:17 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: t-shirt quote In-reply-to: X-Sender: gene@204.71.244.2 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Marcy sed: >I was going to stay out of this, but I've always liked this line from >"Birds in Perspex": "I was born with trousers on." Heh. That's a good one. Should we modify a quote to fit our fiendish needs, like "Fegmaniax! We were born with trousers on -- just about like everyone"? I'm not keen at all on the "They might be fiends" quote, however -- makes me think of They Might Be Giants. However, that line from the Soft Boys song "There's Nobody Like You" -- "I wouldn't mind dressing in green if I thought that you'd understand what I mean" would be clever if it was printed on a green shirt. Or, on a black shirt, "I wouldn't mind dressing in black if I thought it'd get your temperature back" would be a hoot, I think. Or, to go the whole hog (cf: the preacher's daughter in _Wise Blood_, "read books on ethical culture..."), "I wouldn't mine dressing in blue if I thought it'd make any difference to you..." On an unrelated note: I caught the Magnetic Fields a coupla weekends ago, and I'm still starry-eyed from the experience. Front man/chief warbler Stephen Merritt is one heckuva songwriter, and he played the coolest Danelectro geetar I've seen in ages. He's solely responsible for restoring my faith in Contemporary Pop Music, but he says things on stage like "Why do you still buy records?" and "Don't go to college." Gotta love that man. __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .