From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #132 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 132 Monday June 16 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Re: Beatles/Stones Re: Actual pithy phrase Iiiiii'm Baaaaack! plus divers alarums Re: Beatles/Stones fegbrania... T-shirt slogan Re: Feg Digest V5 #130 Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Pop-ularity RH: Tape of the Recent Seattle(sp?) show - is there one? Crow: City of Angels Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes Laserdisc? Re: Beatles/Stones Re: Beatles/Stones Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Re: Beatles/Stones (fwd) Re: votes Re: Viva Sea-tac uh okay duhhhh Re: Me too viva-space-needle Re: there's only yourself Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Summer reading (0% RH, unless you take a very panoramic view.....) An FL Defense Opening a Can of Bees Fiends! Re: Opening a Can of Bees Votes, &c. Re: there's only yourself t-shirt quote Re: Fiends! Re: Fiends! (0% RH) Spice Girls job application Re: Votes, &c. domains and fiends Re: Votes, &c. Re: Votes, &c. VIVA Sea-tac II Re: Votes, &c. twirling one's finger in a can of baked beans Re: Fiends! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:32:46 -0500 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Chernobyl Hawaiian Village At 08:38 PM 6/15/97 -0400, Terrence M Marks wrote: >The beatles and the Rolling Stones... >Who are they and why are they famous? > >(trying to understand the workings of the beast called music consumption >and failing miserably) As the House of Love put it in their song "Beatles and the Stones": the Beatles and the Stones suck the marrow out of bones they made it good to be alone What more do you need to know? later, Miles, who ranks the Beatles' RUBBER SOUL and REVOLVER and the Stones' entire output from BEGGARS BANQUET through EXILE ON MAIN STREET as manna, manna, manna... ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) > > This reminds me of that urban legend about an English examination that > supposedly consisted of one question- "describe the novel". In other > words, volumes have been written on less complex questions. Could you try > narrowing it just a -tad-? :) :) > Ok... the facts: 1a) I can find any Beatles CD or Stones CD in my local shops 1b) Apart from "Lola", "Pet Sounds", "Today", "To The Bone" and "Greatest Hits", I can't find any Beach Boys or Kinks CDs 1c) Likewise with The Monkees (except for "Greeatest Hits" and "Justus". I hat to special order "Head", which turned out to be possibly the best CD I have [I say that all the time, so don't worry]) 1d) There are radio shows that play nothing but The Beatles I'm justy trying to understand Music Consumption as a whole... If anyone could explain Fact 1 so that it makes sense, feel free Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:26:00 -0500 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) Mississippi Malcolm McDowell At 12:10 AM 6/16/97 -0400, Terrence M Marks wrote: >> >> This reminds me of that urban legend about an English examination that >> supposedly consisted of one question- "describe the novel". In other >> words, volumes have been written on less complex questions. Could you try >> narrowing it just a -tad-? :) :) >> > >Ok... >the facts: >1a) I can find any Beatles CD or Stones CD in my local shops >1b) Apart from "Lola", "Pet Sounds", "Today", "To The Bone" and "Greatest >Hits", I can't find any Beach Boys or Kinks CDs Harder to explain with the Beach Boys, but as Susan and I and others have talked about ad infinitum here, the Kinks went willfully obscure and traditional just when the Summer of Love was encouraging folks to think big and anti-tradition, ergo their best run of albums, save for LOLA (and it rescued from obscurity only by the near-novelty song hit status of the title track), sunk into that realm reserved only for Kultists and Kritics. Though it does surprise me that the Kinks' GREATEST HITS or COME DANCING WITH THE KINKS or LOST AND FOUND or KRONIKLES wouldn't be around somewhere. >I'm justy trying to understand Music Consumption as a whole... >If anyone could explain Fact 1 so that it makes sense, feel free I'm still trying to figure out why power pop (think Shoes, dB's, Hoodoo Gurus, Material Issue), the most radio-perfect music in the world, isn't on the radio. That one's beyond me! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:48:51 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones Terrence wrote: >1a) I can find any Beatles CD or Stones CD in my local shops >1b) I can't find any Beach Boys or Kinks CDs >1c) Likewise with The Monkees I don't know where you live (Florida?), but I ain't ever gonna move there. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:49:33 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: Actual pithy phrase My vote for::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: They might be fiends. Too cool.. it just jumps out and Screams Fegmaniax... so, if the Great One ever sees one of us with a shirt saying that, you think he'll remember where it came from? *Grin* LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A friend is someone who will help you move. A GOOD friend is someone who will help you move a body." -Unknown Come visit me at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 Last updated 7 June 1997 I'm on the LinkExchange!! Be on the lookout for my specially-made banner! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:57:40 -0800 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Iiiiii'm Baaaaack! plus divers alarums Iiiiii'm baaaaack!!! Thanks for all the get well wishes! >Recently I was re-reading James O'Barr's original "Crow" comic. Though I >read it when it first came out (Thereby establishing my pre-movie >credibility and invoking a certain aura of "cool") I had totally forgotten >about the constant references to music throughout the text. (Thereby >quickly blowing my aura of cool.) The whole lyrics are printed to not only >songs by Joy Division and the Cure, but our man's "Raymond Chandler >Evening" is also printed in full during the episode entitled "Velocity." >And shortly after that song is quoted, the Crow - Eric Draven - says to a >bad guy's girlfriend, "Get dressed, Miss Skin, before the space between us >turns into tigers." Coming so closely on the heels of a full-blown Robyn >song, I doubt that was coincidental. (As in "The Shapes Between Us Turn >into Animals" from Globe of Frogs.) >Cool, eh? O'Barr is a Robyn Fan! Too bad they didn't use one of those >songs on the Crow soundtrack. . . . hmmm. I wonder if the feeling's mutual. It would certainly give a whole new dimension to "The Black Crow Knows"! BTW - who sings the very deep bass backing vocals on that song - is it RH himself? >Fegs, I have a confession to make. You see, after the show in Sacramento, >Eddie (Seattle Feg) and I stuck around to chat with some folks weíd met, >but mostly to see if Robyn would be making an appearance. I really thought >we should meetÖI mean, after all, we *were* in the same building. :) Time >was marching on, things were getting packed up, and it didnít look good. > It was time for *drastic* measures. >ìWould you please tell Robyn that thereís a Hedblade here to see him?î I >asked with a straight face to a road crew guy. ìA Head Blade?..." hmmm... I'll have to remember this ploy if he ever comes to NZ... "Hi - can you tell Robyn there's yet another Hedblade to see him?" talking of which... >Sadness. Not only does Robyn come nowhere near this blasted place (Texas), >but even cool fegparties are way out of reach. Oh well, at least we have >Michael Irvin to keep us entertained. Texas? You call THAT isolated??? AFAIK There is only one other feg within 1000 miles of here, and she is on a different island, some 500 or more miles away! Draw a 1000 mile circle from your home, and you'll probably find everyone from Florida to Chicago to Colorado within it! Some of you folks don't know overcrowding when you see it! :) and also :( and maybe K|:u^ James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:57:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Eb wrote: > Terrence wrote: > >1a) I can find any Beatles CD or Stones CD in my local shops > >1b) I can't find any Beach Boys or Kinks CDs > >1c) Likewise with The Monkees > > I don't know where you live (Florida?), but I ain't ever gonna move there. ;) Reason number 586 that I live in an urban area :). Music I want is often hard enough to find here. I'd hate to think what it would be like in a small (my guess is that's where Terry is) town. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:10:39 -0700 From: "Mark \"the Pablo Picasso of PC Design\" Gloster" Subject: fegbrania... My vote is for fegmaniax.org Fegmania is an album. I am not an album. You are not an album. We are all not an album. Googoogachoo. I still like fegbraniax: for the geex among us, yes that's me; fegsusiax: for the lighter side of artistic fetishes, led by Mistres(sippi) Malcomette; fegquailiax: for clever yarns spun by big brains that bring about such a gasseous wind that flames shoot for miles when the merest spark is nigh; fegsharkiax: where some clown (Markg) treats a whole maillist as a vehicle for his own stand-up act, but people think he's serious sometimes, and he treats the think like the home shopping channel for the Robyn Hitchcock tribute CD, _Glass Flesh!_, by people on this list, and his own _Monday's Lunch_, by Mark Gloster and Big Rubber Shark; and fegbayardiax (doesn't that flow nicely off the tongue): like fegsharkiax, only much quieter and has _way_ more class. Just trying to tickle your funny bones, -marg almost wit-free on a Sunday night ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:13:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: T-shirt slogan Considering some of the posts I read on this list, I wonder if the T-shirt phrase should be "I Often Dream of Susan." ;P Eb ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 01:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #130 Scott chimes in: << How about C. Spot Runion? With a side of Runion ings? Scott (whose nickname as a baby was Grunion) >> So Scott, you MUST be a California Feg then, yes? Syd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:33:29 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Outdoor Miner wrote: > > ...as Susan and I and others have > talked about ad infinitum here, the Kinks went willfully obscure and > traditional just when the Summer of Love was encouraging folks to think big > and anti-tradition... I have to object there. Very strong indications of their future were already evident by Kink Kontroversy (with the The World Keeps Going Round/I'm on an Island/Where Have all the Good Times Gone section) in 1965! This went a step further in Face to Face and Something Else. It wasn't willful; it's just the way Ray developed. To Terence (who started this) - you should go to Chicago, ostensibly to woo Susan (like everybody-*%@&#-else on the list) but really to get easy access to cool music. JL: infinitum+1 -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ From: JASONBRAB@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 02:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Pop-ularity In a message dated 6/15/97 23:45:21, Terence M Marks wrote: <> Jesus Christ: who is he and why is HE famous?? (trying to understand the workings of the beast called muse consumption and failing miserably) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:49:25 +0100 From: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch (Jeff Lawrence) Subject: RH: Tape of the Recent Seattle(sp?) show - is there one? Well after having read all the lovely postings in the most recent digests regarding the RH/P. Buck/YFF show last week in Seattle(sp?), I have yet to see any messages indicating whether anyone taped this (assumed) masterpiece of a show. Did *anyone* from this list tape this show? And if they did, are they willing either to run (or more sensibly) donate a copy as a seed for someone else to run a tape tree of this? Cause I don't think I'm alone in saying "Me please"!! ;-) If anyone has any info on this and is willing to share, please either post to the list, or if you're feeling particularly shy ( ;-) ), drop me a line in private Tschuss!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:37:29 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Buttafuoco) Subject: Crow: City of Angels >Oh God, here we go again. ;) No, seriously, Alice is one of the most obvious influences of The Crow. I'm not just spouting-off for the sake of spouting-off. Brett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:38:45 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Buttafuoco) Subject: Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes Laserdisc? Does anyone know if "Brenda of the Lightlbulb Eyes" was ever released on laserdisc? If not, it is possible that I have found a bootleg laserdisc of the home video at a local pawn shop. Brett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:27:39 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones Characteristics: The Beatles and the Stones were both successful as live acts before they had any sort of recording career, but with unsuccessful management. They were both taken over by managers who were more concerned with projecting a look and an attitude than in music, BUT had the sense to select bands who already had musical talent and a following. Without Epstein and Oldham, they would, I believe, have stuck at the Kinks / Yardbirds level. Haircuts (this is another aspect of management). The Spinal Tap "Ice and Fire" factor. Both bands had two talented blokes to spark one another off. And incidentally, both had a third guy trying to muscle in, which probably had the effect of keeping the two leaders on their toes. The main difference is that when Epstein died, the Beatles fell apart, but when Oldham was fired and Jones died, the Stones kept going. (I know that the Beatles survived for 3 years, but the records from the White Album onwards consist basically of solo John and solo Paul tracks, plus "Weeps" and "Something" from George - the marketing of the band as a band, which was Epstein's speciality, stopped with SPLHCB). - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones Gotta wonder why The Monkees aren't too available.... > They were both taken over by managers who were more concerned with > projecting a look and an attitude than in music, BUT had the sense to Well, for the most part, The Monkees had musical talent. Enough to get by. And enough to hire sessionsmen. > Haircuts (this is another aspect of management). During the first season of Star Trek, Checkov's hair was reportedly styled to imitate Peter Tork's. > The Spinal Tap "Ice and Fire" factor. Both bands had two talented blokes > to spark one another off. A pool of hundreds of writers, all of which either gave 100% or didn't get paid. Similar to the Beatles, when Raybert Productions and The Monkees split, The Monkees plummetted.. So...why *can't* I find "Headquarters" around here... (rivallign Susan for the frivolous poster-of-the-month) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:12:43 -0500 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) At 12:33 AM 6/16/97 -0500, John Littlejohn wrote: >On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Outdoor Miner wrote: >> >> ...as Susan and I and others have >> talked about ad infinitum here, the Kinks went willfully obscure and >> traditional just when the Summer of Love was encouraging folks to think big >> and anti-tradition... > >I have to object there. Very strong indications of their future were >already evident by Kink Kontroversy (with the The World Keeps Going >Round/I'm on an Island/Where Have all the Good Times Gone section) in >1965! This went a step further in Face to Face and Something Else. It >wasn't willful; it's just the way Ray developed. Hey hey, no argument that KINK KONTROVERSY was the precursor of how things would develop for the Kinks later (though I must add one doesn't see any hint that we would begin to be lectured about the virtues of afternoon tea and the evils of photography). BUT the Kinks have always been very willfully obscure, usually dropping a sound whenever other folks picked it up and sold more records -- several KONTROVERSY tracks have a raga-like feel, and of course FtF's "Fancy" has a sitar as well, but as soon as the Beatles picked up on the sitar, the Kinks moved 180 degrees away from that sound... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Beatles/Stones (fwd) From: "Mike O'Connor" Fegmaniax back at home With their Beatles and their Stones I never got it off on that drifting topic stuff What a drag... Too many snags ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:01:21 -0700 From: Lobsterman Subject: Re: votes Mine---- -feg, with an x at the end. -artwork on the back -i vote for a tape tree of Viva Seatac (the soundboard of course) :) -i vote for a tape tree of all the fm broadcasts from the "western lung" of the tour. -i vote for an invisible chicken in every pot. Thanks, Lobsterman (who is sad that none of his fave movies ranked ('cept "Being There"). Doesn't anyone like "Silver Streak", "Gods Must Be Crazy", and "Blue (Colors Trilogy)?" np: Bill Nelson, "Magnificent Dream People" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Lobsterman + (John B. Jones) + lobstie@e-znet world wide web- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones house of figgy (24-7)- http://web.syr.edu/~jojones/hitchcock.html I'm on a reigning twilight coast.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Plumb Subject: Re: Viva Sea-tac I can't tell you all how Insanely Jealous I am. Thanks for the great reviews of the show, I almost feel like I was there. rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: lj lindhurst Subject: uh okay duhhhh didn't realize you had already talked about that Crow thing. woops. "must have been all that cough syrup I drank." lj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:28:27 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Me too > Eb wrote: > And just in case you think I'm always Mr. Negative, it's my impression > that I like Respect more than just about anyone else on this list. Agreed. A real return to form after the dreariness of Perspex. AND he hasn't done anything better since - but I have high hopes of this new album. - hssmrg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 09:18:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: viva-space-needle >*Clean Steve: Not one of my favorites, but I like how Robyn said, "You >could have knocked him down with a Space Needle." Cheers. ah, he got ya with one of the oldest tricks in the rock & roll book: localizing. BTW, Labor day weekend in Seattle sounds like a great idea to me, as long as I can get back in time to make use of the tickets I just procured for the Giants/A's game that Monday Evening (can't waste box seats right behind the Giants dugout) . Here's hoping Robyn plays Saturday. -russ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 09:23:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: there's only yourself ======== Original Message ======== Eb wrote: And just in case you think I'm always Mr. Negative, it's my impression that I like Respect more than just about anyone else on this list. That makes sense! -Ner ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== There are many of us who like Respect. We just tend to keep quiet about it because mentioning it usually starts a flame war (there you go again!) ;) russ (by the way, is it "EB" or "E-flat?") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:15:43 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Kinks (RH-Related, but 0% RH content) On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Outdoor Miner wrote: > Hey hey, no argument that KINK KONTROVERSY was the precursor of how things > would develop for the Kinks later (though I must add one doesn't see any > hint that we would begin to be lectured about the virtues of afternoon tea > and the evils of photography). BUT the Kinks have always been very > willfully obscure, usually dropping a sound whenever other folks picked it > up and sold more records -- several KONTROVERSY tracks have a raga-like > feel, and of course FtF's "Fancy" has a sitar as well, but as soon as the > Beatles picked up on the sitar, the Kinks moved 180 degrees away from that > sound... I can only think of two Kinks songs with sitar in there: "See My Friends" and "Fancy". And "Fancy" was released (about six months?) after Rubber Soul and "Norwegian Wood", which was the first big Beatles sitar song. So that doesn't really hold water. Granted that one probably wouldn't think they would be singing about afternoon tea and the evils of photography, but there was also a strong element of nostalgia were already there. And they were talking about dandies and sloane rangers in '66. They weren't ones to drop a successful (for them OR others) sound easily. They hit with "You Really Got Me" and then mined that for all it was wroth during the next two years, even though at least one group had a hit deriving from their style (The Who's "I Can't Explain"). You may even want to fault them for following the money. They were still selling records during their period of change - "Sunny Afternoon" was even a hit over here - and they continued to sell for a couple of years in England. When the hits stopped coming, they switched styles again so we got Arthur and Lola. If anything these guys were slow to change. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ From: JASONBRAB@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Summer reading (0% RH, unless you take a very panoramic view.....) In a message dated 6/15/97, Terence Marks wrote: <> In a message dated 6/16/97, I inquired: <> In a message dated 6/16/97, Terence Marks responded: <> Yeah, I dug those up & took a look at them...interesting reading, kinda sad at the ends (reminded me a lot of John Lennon). Problem is, they all seem to contradict one other (How many loaves? How many fishes?). It gives the impression that the 4 authors are just manufacturing details about events at which they weren't actually present, expanding on stories they've gotten from other sources (I guess that's a common complant with rock biographies in general. Writer (Sunridge Press, now sadly O.P. and not available in hotel rooms) for a more detailed examination as to who The Beatles were and why they're so popular. :-> JASON. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:41:39 -0400 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: An FL Defense At 11:57 PM 6/15/97 -0500, Susan wrote: >On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Eb wrote: > >> Terrence wrote: >> >1a) I can find any Beatles CD or Stones CD in my local shops >> >1b) I can't find any Beach Boys or Kinks CDs >> >1c) Likewise with The Monkees >> >> I don't know where you live (Florida?), but I ain't ever gonna move there. ;) > >Reason number 586 that I live in an urban area :). Music I want is often >hard enough to find here. I'd hate to think what it would be like in a >small (my guess is that's where Terry is) town. Okay, I just have to step in here and defend my (and Terrence's) home state of Florida. Remember that Gainsville, where Terry's at I think, is a college town and hence has several great record shops (Schoolkids, Hyde & Zeek's, and a great used one that I forget the name of). I used to make the trek up there every few months just to browse and buy. Orlando, which is 45 min from me, also has a slew of fantastic, and ever changing, underground record shops (Murmur, Bad Mood, Waxtree). It's not all just Mickey Mouse and beaches down here...there ARE cities, they're just very laid back ones. Miami and Tampa ain't too shabby either when it comes to cool record stores (Yesterday & Today and The Alternative Record Store, respectively). Mike Onion Runion, Cocoa, FL email: mrrunion@tng.net WWW: http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm ************ Visit the Virtual Cone Museum! ************** * http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/cones.htm * ********************************************************** "A perfect circle of acquaintances and friends, Drink another, coin a phrase..." -REM ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Opening a Can of Bees Hey Fegs, Quick question: Is $20 (us) a fair price to pay for Live At The Portland Arms? I "found" a copy this week, but I didn't pick it up (no $$$). Good reason to believe it isn't going anywhere soon. Having not heard it, I'm curious if this is something I NEED to add to my collection, or is it just something I WANT to add for the sake of being complete? And again, is the price right? The vinyl is near mint and the jacket in VG shape. The same source had the bootleg (?) version of Wading Through A Ventilator. Around the same price. Again, sound investment? Must go as can't form complete sentence. ;) Jay H. ------------------------------ Subject: Fiends! Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 11:54:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark I think we're all in agreement that our team jersey should contain original Robyn art and/or quote. If we throw a quote on there, it should be in his distinctive handwriting though. That poses a problem for the "fiends" quote since it was transcribed. The three alternatives here are: Find a quote he's actually written down; Contact him and ask him to pen it for us; Forge his handwriting. Input? Comments? As for the domain name. I'm in favor of fegmania.org. Remeber, it's a domain - the domain of fegMANIA! This of course means I disagree with my colleague Mr. Gloster. But, I believe he will see the light when I pound it into his ironed-on head next week at our feglunch gathering. Yeah, Baby. Yeah. -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 15:09:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Opening a Can of Bees On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 Hedblade@aol.com wrote: > Is $20 (us) a fair price to pay for Live At The Portland Arms? > > I "found" a copy this week, but I didn't pick it up (no $$$). Good reason to > believe it isn't going anywhere soon. > > Having not heard it, I'm curious if this is something I NEED to add to my > collection, or is it just something I WANT to add for the sake of being > complete? i have a very nice tape of this show, if you want it -- (not a tape of the record, a tape of the show-- it sounds surprisingly good! there's nothing on it that isn't on the record though.) ------------------------------ From: Aidan Cully Subject: Votes, &c. Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 15:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Votes: I don't think the phrase on the t-shirts should be "They might be fiends" because people might assume it's related to "They Might Be Giants". I vote for fegmania.org, but will the lists name continue to be fegmaniax? fegmaniax@fegmania.org seems redundant, rh-talk@etc. doesn't seem friendly.. fiends@fegmania.org? Re: fave flicks Looks like "La Vie de Boheme" was 0.5 away from making the list. Has anyone else here seen the movie? --aidan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:41:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: there's only yourself >======== Original Message ======== >Eb wrote: >And just in case you think I'm always Mr. Negative, it's my impression >that I like Respect more than just about anyone else on this list. > >That makes sense! > >-Ner >======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== >There are many of us who like Respect. We just tend to keep quiet about it >because mentioning it usually starts a flame war (there you go again!) Strange how I made that comment over a week ago, and no one commented until now. And for the record, I don't get what Ner means by "That makes sense!" >(by the way, is it "EB" or "E-flat?") Both, or neither. ;) Eb ------------------------------ From: tanter@econs.umass.edu Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:01:13 -0400 Subject: t-shirt quote I was going to stay out of this, but I've always liked this line from "Birds in Perspex": "I was born with trousers on." Marcy T. :) ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 1997 15:22:59 -0400 From: "Wayne Grgurich" Subject: Re: Fiends! "Tom Clark" Reply to: RE>Fiends! "Society of Dark Birds" On 6/16/97 12:22 PM, Wayne Grgurich stated emphatically: >After an Egyptians gig in June of '88, I had Th' Man sign the back of my >jacket with a big indelible-ink marker. I requested "I prefer East >Grinstead." >He said something like "You do ? I do as well. And I said it first." So the >back of my jacket reads... > > Robyn sez: > "I prefer East Grinstead" > >In any case, "I prefer East Grinstead" is a line that almost all Fegs surely >will recognize, while just about no one else will. 'tis a good line indeed. Luckily, Robyn also penned it on the CD of "Gotta Let This Hen Out" so you don't have to scan your jacket! I'll add this to the t-shirt tree of suggestions. -tc ------------------------------ Subject: (0% RH) Spice Girls job application Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 13:51:31 -0700 From: Tom Clark Since The Spice Girls flavoured a recent spat of postings, I thought you folks might enjoy this chuckle. Of course this will undoubtedly spark a rash of discussion - just don't blame me. -tc ------- The Top 15 Questions on the Spice Girl Job Application 15. In space provided, tell us why you want, why you really, really, want this job. 14. Do you have any detectable vestige of talent, besides your hooters? 13. Would it, like, bother you to be the target of unrelenting hatred? 12. How would you best describe yourself? ( ) An energetic self-starter ( ) A team player ( ) A tasty, albeit untalented, bit of crumpet 11. True or false: A mosh pit is the seed of the mosh fruit. 10. "I am willing to trade sexual favors for a career in the music industry." ( )Yes ( )No 9. How many times have you been kicked out of a karaoke bar? 8. Does nudity bother you? If so, should I put my clothes back on? 7. Explain the difficulties in identifying the source of individual free will in light of the deterministic theories of neurochemical medicine and modern behavioralist psychology. Just kidding!! Seriously, do you like leather mini-skirts? 6. Are you deceptively attractive in colored or stroboscopic light? 5. Choose an appropriate nickname: Sexy, Nasty, Sweetie, Chlamydia. 4. Have you ever been convicted of combining vertical and horizontal stripes? 3. If two trains leave Liverpool an hour apart at 90 kilometers, and 75 kilometers an hour, respectively, how would you look in spandex? 2. Does the term "force majeure in perpetuity" make you afraid or just giggly? .........and the Number 1 Question on the Spice Girl Job Application... 1. If required as part of your deal with Satan, would you be willing to help alleviate Prince Charles's loneliness? [ This list copyright 1997 by Chris White and Ziff Davis, Inc. ] [ To forward or repost, please include this section. ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:54:58 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Votes, &c. >I vote for fegmania.org, but will the lists name continue to be fegmaniax? >fegmaniax@fegmania.org seems redundant, rh-talk@etc. doesn't seem friendly.. >fiends@fegmania.org? I guess Ebonics.org is out, right? ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:42:35 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: domains and fiends for the domain name, i'm inclined towards fegmania.org since that's the present name of the web site. for the time being, i'm planning on leaving the mailing list @ecto.org, though i may move it eventually. we'll see -- one thing at a time for now though. $20 isn't a terrible price for _live at the portland arms_. i think my copy cost $8, but that was a bit low far as i'm concerned. $15 is probably reasonable. off to volleyball... woj n.p. his name is alive -- stars on e.s.p. p.s. someone's bouncing mail back to the *sender* instead of the listowner; please ignore mail delivery error messages you get -- i'm already on the case. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:14:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Votes, &c. > >I vote for fegmania.org, but will the lists name continue to be fegmaniax? > >fegmaniax@fegmania.org seems redundant, rh-talk@etc. doesn't seem friendly.. > >fiends@fegmania.org? Yeah, that's good. Or mucky@fegmania.org, perhaps. Something I have in Robyn's handwriting, from the personal chronology thingie at the Warner's site (yes, the silly fangirl downloaded each page): Drink heavily and listen to "Avalon" in the wet Sussex twilight. I dunno, I kind of like it. It's better than "funky denim wilderness", which was my original choice from those. ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Votes, &c. On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Aidan Cully wrote: > Votes: > > I don't think the phrase on the t-shirts should be "They might be fiends" > because people might assume it's related to "They Might Be Giants". I dislike "they might be fiends" only b/c the next thing he typed was "they might all be really ugly" which, aside from being a minor slam on us, has been proven false in a mini-thread. so maybe it's just ironic enough to work. other thoughts: 'the distance between reality and pain' 'the web of souls' 'all else is silence' 'lake of frozen storms' or something else he writes/makes up for us. i agree it would be nice to get it in his own words/handwriting/drawing. someone want to contact antwoman or steve? =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:49:51 -0700 From: Paul Montagne Subject: VIVA Sea-tac II Hello Fegs. I'm terribly bummed I missed this show and was only blocks away at my friends rehearsal dinner to boot. I was sideways by ten oclock and had too many conflicting obligation to break away and drive to the Croc. (i.e. my wife would have killed me). I have lived in the Northwest for years and The Fellows/Minus 5/Picketts shows are amongst my favorites. If anyone has a tape of the show I'm pleading.... PLEASE SHARE. The VIVA Seatac I tape is a prize posession that could use a mate.... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ,__o Paul Montagne | Research Assistant ,__o _-\_<; montagnp@ucs.orst.edu | Transportation Research _-\_<; (*)/'(*) ph: 541.737.3319 | Institute (*)/'(*) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:10:43 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: Re: Votes, &c. also sprach Mississippi Malcolm McDowell: >I dunno, I kind of like it. It's better than "funky denim wilderness", isn't it "funky denim wonderland"? +w ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:24:07 -0700 Subject: twirling one's finger in a can of baked beans this whole debbie flosshilde saga greatly reminds me of that magnificent penultimate scene from Barton Fink. Barton walks into colonel lipnick's office, and his script is sitting there on lipnick's desk. but lipnick says, "...i've got to tell you, fink: it won't wash." barton/quail responds, with steel in his voice and fire in his eyes: "with aldo respect, sir, i think it's my best work." at which lipnick totally lights into him, telling him, among many other things, that he'd contracted for a, "wrestling picture. big men in tights. not some fruity movie about a man wrestling with his soul. well, maybe a little bit for the critics. but you make it the tail that wags the dog." and on and on. baron/quail, now almost totally broken, offers one list plea, his voice croaking, "i tried to show you something beautiful...something about all of us." but the colonel won't hear of it, telling barton/quail he wants him, "in town, but out of my sight," until he grows up. there is one major difference, though. wheareas throughout barton's ordeal, lou breeze was nothing but a yes man; several fegs came eloquently to quail's defense. the moral? fegs are superkeen. Viva Sea-Tac 2: Gene Hackman, I'm Only You, Clean Steve [enter tim] Madonna, Superkeen, Queen Elvis [enter scott] Boeing Spacearium?, Jewels, Chinese Bones, Beautiful Queen [enter viva sea-tac boys] "Men On Their Hind Legs Always Stand Up," Queen of Eyes, Elizabeth Jade, Beep Beep song, Viva Sea-Tac [encore] Birdshead, Give It To The Soft Boys, What Goes On Notes-- I'm Only You: scintillating. very long guitar solo Superkeen: robyn on harmonica Boeing Spacearium: scott vocals. i guess this is the title. it's a very good song. is it young fresh fellows? i guess i'd better come clean right now, and admit that the extent of my fellows knowledge comes from that they might be giants song: "she doesn't have to have her young fresh fellows tape back now, but there's not a lot of things that she'll take back." so, i know that they have tapes. but i don't know anything else about them, i'm afraid. "Men On Their Hind Legs...:" i think this is actually a cover of a very old song that i really should know but don't. somebody said there was a dylan cover. if there was, this must be it. i think the song is actually called Tell Me Mama. Queen Of Eyes: "40 strings on this song. count 'em ladies and gentlemen: 40 strings!" Elizabeth Jade: arrrrgh!! my sister, who was taping the show for me, missed the side break about 20 seconds into this song. and what a delicious 20 seconds it is. please don't say anything bad about my sister, because it was very kind of her to tape the show for me in the first place. but i guess if this show is going to be treed, as everyone thinks it ought to be, another taper is going to have to come forward. Viva Sea-Tac: the expanded version. here are the additional lyrics: all of the groovers came from vancouver and some of them came from oregon in case you don't know. additionally, he read from the farmers almanac after the song: "the population of the greater seattle-tacoma metropolitan area is 352 million. every 25 minutes another egg hatches. the space needle contains enough strontium to fuel the planet Mars until the year 3,000,056. the young fresh fellows masterminded the downfall of nixon in 1974..." Birdshead: just robyn and pete, i think. What Goes On: it would appear that robyn is partial to the third album, which is actually my least favorite of the four (which is a little like saying that PERSPEX is my least favorite robyn rekkid: it still blows away just about everyting else.) i'd love to hear him cover Lonesome Cowboy Bill. bumbershoot: they usually don't print the schedule until the thursday before labor day weekend. but i'd bet my shorts that woj already knows the exact specs of robyn's show. terry's dilemma: i know you don't like nirvana, terry. but maybe you could borrow a friend's copy of NEVERMIND, and give it a listen or two. i've always found that an excellent antidote to robyn overexposure. kind of a musical enema, i suppose. speaking of which, has anybody else listened, on more than one occasion no less, to METAL MACHINE MUSIC in its entirety? eb's dilemma: what i want to know is, why would you buy 19 recordings of someone you consider merely a B+ artist? are you just a huge music fan generally? did you once hold robyn in higher esteem than you now do? do you have an insider's job that allows you to get a bunch of free music? genuinely curious. ross made a persuasive argument that all the movies deserve to be "published," not just the most popular ones. so, over the next few weeks, i'll type in all the lists in the order i received them. woj's fave flicks: 1. Brazil, 2. Heathers, 3. 12 Monkeys Zelda Pinwheel's fave flicks: 1. The Servant, 2. The Conversation, 3. Peeping Tom, 4. Brazil, 5. Touch of Evil, 6. Bad Thing, 7. Barton Fink, 8. The Devils, 9. Family Viewing, 10. Taxi Driver Ross Overbury's fave flicks: The Lathe of Heaven, 2001, Pink Flamingoes, Let It Be, My Beautiful Laundrette, Eraserhead, Slaughterhouse Five, A Clockwork Orange, Montenegro, Apocalypse Now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: Fiends! also sprach "Wayne Grgurich" : >In any case, "I prefer East Grinstead" is a line that almost all Fegs surely >will recognize, while just about no one else will. or, perhaps, "circling madly, in honiton clyst"? +w ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .