From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #120 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 120 Monday June 2 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- there's only yourself you can lose Re: Feg Digest V5 #119 Re: there's only yourself Re: there's only yourself Re: there's only yourself Re: there's only yourself Re: LA Weekly & "It's A Hedblade" Re: there's only yourself you can lose Re: Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) Re: A Penis-Song Question spectrefied Re: there's only yourself Re:Virtual Cone Museum: Up & Running Re: Beautiful Girl tab Mystery Train more talented female musos Martin Newell, that thing I do Re: Martin Newell, that thing I do Subterranean Offline Blues Re: bait with proof of purchase Oregon pre-show shindigs Tim's set Any Ed Krueper fans here (no RH content)? Re: Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) Re: Mystery Train 52 Stations Re: 52 Stations Re: 52 Stations and another thing (non RH) Please, Please.... Re: Title needed for story Meeting at the SF show, Wednesday June 4th Weekend Of Robyn ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:21:00 -0700 Subject: there's only yourself you can lose just think of me as that guy that's always showing up late to things. but he's so damn cute that you always wait for him. susie dilemma: you really haven't heard Happy the Golden Prince? what about The Can Opener, Dr. Sticky, Nighride disco version, Higsons studio version, Kingdom of Love disco version, The Ruling Class, Legalized Murder, Eight Miles High etc. most of these are available either on the rhino releases which can now surely all be got used for a tenner, or INVISIBLE HISTORY. you owe it to yourself. warplanes: did anybody mention, "overhead a bomber drones" from September Cones yet? this is becoming a very interesting topic. when the whole list is compiled, i'd love to see Quail write an essay about it. (sorry to treat you like a performing seal, Quail, but your writing is so fabulous.) getting sick of it: if he were getting sick of performing, you'd think one way to keep it interesting to himself would be to vary the setlist quite a bit. i've often wondered how musicians can play the same songs night after night after night and not get really sick of them really fast. and not just Teen Spirit, but any song. and it's true, there's so many robyn could choose from, and quite a few that he just doesn't play that often. blabblab: i come down on the side that LOVES the stories. and i think they do hold up very well with repeated listenings. i could listen to LIVE DEATH or THOTH BOYS or the o'donoghue interview about twenny times a day i think. further, i would just LOVE to see every album spectrefied. the most disenchanting thing to me, Eb, is that you don't consider robyn to be an infallible being. seriously. i thought there were no casual robyn fans, just those that hadn't heard him and those that are SUPERFANATIC. also, even if you don't like the stories, you really should go see him to hear the songs, man. when he was here in november, i was blown away. his playing, and especially his voice, have never been better. it certainly didn't seem to me then that he was getting sick of it. finally, listening to stories, but more often interviews, it's really fun to hear him say something so outrageous or interesting or whatever that he even amazes himself. he really is a conduit, and as someone else said, it would be horrible to try to rein him in. would probably destroy him. british spellings: fully agree with diamond on this one. aeroplane, centre, shoppe, programme, artefact. you just gotta love it. and the more they're used on this list, the better off we'll all be for it (in the long run.) carolyn hamilton: is she a fegmaniax subscriber, or does anybody know what she's up to these days? her discography is one of my most prized posessions, but it really needs to be updated. i'd even recommend getting a fund together to allow her to take a sabbatical and put out a spanking new one, if that's what's needed. netsurfer ghost II: i'm all for it, of course, but will most of these songs be on the soundtrack, which comes out in september? is that right? robynitiation: i was actually going to relate this story a while back at the end of a post with depressingly little robyn content, but i thought you'd all be totally bored by it. but since randi's soliciting: a good friend of mine went to USC freshman year (1987-88), and GLOBE OF FROGS was apparently a pretty big deal in LA. he came back from school and played it for me, and i thought it was ok, thought the manifesto was quite funny. didn't think much about it after that. there's an arts festival in seattle every labor day weekend called bumbershoot. so i was looking through the schedule for that in '88, and i noticed robyn was playing on monday evening, and i just casually mentioned it to my friend, and, again, forgot about it. so he calls me up monday afternoon and says, "Ready to go?" and i say, "Go where?" and he says, "We're going to see Robyn Hitchcock, right????!!!????" and i say, "oh, yeah...sure." i remember a story that had something to do with cher. and one that had something to do with everybody in the room's teeth all chattering at the same time. and he introduced Balloon Man saying, "this is a song about greed, and i hope it makes me a lot of money." and they played The Man With the Lightbulb Head, and had man with the lightbulb head t-shirts, and i almost bought one. and i remember telling my friend, "i liked the song where the all switched instruments." not even knowing it was called Tell Me About Your Drugs. Anyway, i bought GLOBE the next day, and was, of course, hooked. ironically, i'm a much bigger fan than him now, but i've often wondered what course my life would've taken if i hadn't mentioned that concert...see, i told you it was boring. ------------------------------ From: JASONBRAB@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #119 In a message dated 6/1/97 11:44:43, you wrote: <> No, but I've photogaphed Charlie Watts...does that count for anything?? :-< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:12:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: there's only yourself Eddie wrote: >further, i would just LOVE to see every album spectrefied. You lost me there. Huh? >the most disenchanting thing to me, Eb, is that you don't >consider robyn to be an infallible being. seriously. Add the recent sneer that "one fruity belch from Robyn is worth more than the entire Yes/Sex Pistols catalog," and I think it's safe to say that RobynGodthink is alive and well. ;) >i thought there >were no casual robyn fans, just those that hadn't heard him and those >that are SUPERFANATIC. No, believe it or not, some folks hear Robyn and just aren't into it. Or there's other folks who just kinda like "that song about the balloons." I wouldn't say I'm a casual fan. After all, I do own 19 Hitchcock/Soft Boys albums. But of those, I guess I'd say (let's see...) that I'd grade two of them "A," four of them "A-," two of them "B" and the rest "B+." So I guess that means I think he's a B+ artist on the whole. General sameyness -- both lyrically and musically -- would be my chief complaint. And perhaps an inability to truly "rock." >also, even if you don't like the stories, you >really should go see him to hear the songs, man. when he was here in >november, i was blown away. his playing, and especially his voice, have >never been better. it certainly didn't seem to me then that he was >getting sick of it. Well, first, I didn't say he was "getting sick of it." That was someone else. I don't agree with that, actually. I just said *I* was getting sick of it. Second, I think I've seen RH about five times, starting around 1987. So I've certainly tasted the fruits of RH's live performances. I guess I enjoy the band gigs more -- I think my favorite RH show I've seen was on the Respect tour. Can't really say why -- that one just really made my toes tingle at the time. And just in case you think I'm always Mr. Negative, it's my impression that I like Respect more than just about anyone else on this list. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 16:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: there's only yourself On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Eb wrote: > Add the recent sneer that "one fruity belch from Robyn is worth more than > the entire Yes/Sex Pistols catalog," and I think it's safe to say that > RobynGodthink is alive and well. ;) not at all. that person is just supremely disinterested in the extremes of technical proficiency and the lack thereof (it seems to me.) this is actually the most reflective and varied dicussion forum i've seen. if it were positive (or critical) all the time, i'd un =b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:48:13 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: there's only yourself >On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Eb wrote: > >> Add the recent sneer that "one fruity belch from Robyn is worth more than >> the entire Yes/Sex Pistols catalog," and I think it's safe to say that >> RobynGodthink is alive and well. ;) > >not at all. that person is just supremely disinterested in the extremes >of technical proficiency and the lack thereof (it seems to me.) > >this is actually the most reflective and varied dicussion forum i've seen. >if it were positive (or critical) all the time, i'd un > >=b I think your post got cut off somehow. Personally, I wouldn't call the Sex Pistols an extreme case of lack of proficiency. Sid's not on most of the recordings, ya know. Bollocks is plenty tight enough for me -- I own LOTS of records sloppier than that. And your defense of the fruity belch comment was rather weak. The bottom line is he'd rather listen to a Robyn burp than a Yes or Sex Pistols recording (you gleaned over the other statement about "infallible [human, or otherwise?] being," I see). I wouldn't make such a comment about ANY performer, personally. Burps have only limited entertainment value in my view, especially when sober. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 17:01:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: there's only yourself the question appears to be, did the poster intend (1) to profess an unconditional love of all things robyn; (2) to dis yes and the sex pistols, or (3) to reveal a burp fetish. apparently you chose 1; i believe the answer is 2. As he's gone back to lurking in disgust, we may never know! (; =b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 17:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: LA Weekly & "It's A Hedblade" On Sun, 1 Jun 1997 Hedblade@aol.com wrote: > Alright, I know I'm just picking nits here, but in the LA Weekly blurb, this > was said: > > << He may even dig out such oldies as "Uncorrected Personality Traits." >> > > On a solo tour? Seems strange the writer would believe Robyn would undertake > a song that has NO instrumentation and REQUIRES three part harmony on a SOLO > tour. Lazy journalism, I ask? More like insider info-- I hear he DID do UPT last night! Remember, he's solo, but not alone! > > I'm afraid this "historic" event has become a "tall tail." Here's the deal- > I arrived during soundcheck to prep for my interview with Robyn. He saw me > come in, and while I was walking by, in mid-song, Robyn incerted the line > "It's a Hedblade" to the tune he was picking (can't remember which one it > was- sorry). Now, I was simply pleased that the man remembered who I was (he > seems to have a strange attraction to my last name, which is a major blessing > for me!), but he DID NOT build a song around it. I wish he had, but I'm > still chuffed nonetheless. > > How did this story get on the list, BTW? I don't recall saying anything > about it in my post. To be honest, I'm a bit worried someone out there might > think I'm bragging again... BAD Hedblade! BAD!! *smack* :)) er, I think Susan was the one who did it (*pointing finger*) it's a catron, =b ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 17:30:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: there's only yourself you can lose On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Eddie Tews wrote: > just think of me as that guy that's always showing up late to things. > but he's so damn cute that you always wait for him. How did -you- meet my most recent ex? :) > susie dilemma: you really haven't heard Happy the Golden Prince? what > about The Can Opener, > Dr. Sticky, Nighride disco version, Higsons studio > version, Kingdom of Love disco version, The Ruling Class, Legalized > Murder, Eight Miles High etc. I have heard all of these, actually. > most of these are available either on the > rhino releases which can now surely all be got used for a tenner, As I have explained to several off list, and will now explain on list to avoid further comments of this nature: some Rhino rereleases I have, some I don't. But on my limited music buying budget, I generally opt for something new rather than an album I already have with one different track on it. Call me blasphemer :). But I mean geez, I even bought the Greatest HIts. New. I buy maybe two CDs a year new. So give me a break. > fast. and not just Teen Spirit, but any song. and it's true, there's > so many robyn could choose from, and quite a few that he just doesn't > play that often. Never anything from "Decoy" or "Perspex", I notice. Rarely anything from either "Invisible Hitch" (I've always wanted to hear "It's a Mystic Trip" :)) or "Y&O". On this tour he seems to be relying mostly on "Moss" and "Eye". Not that I am bothered by this :). > blabblab: i come down on the side that LOVES the stories. and i think > they do hold up very well with repeated listenings. i could listen to > LIVE DEATH or THOTH BOYS or the o'donoghue interview about twenny times > a day i think. You want to take over my WXRT interview taping duties? I'm getting a bit bored :). > spectrefied. the most disenchanting thing to me, Eb, is that you don't > consider robyn to be an infallible being. seriously. i thought there > were no casual robyn fans, just those that hadn't heard him and those > that are SUPERFANATIC. One can be superfanatic and also notice clay feet showing now and again. It's been known to have happened :). The difference is whether or not this provokes an affectionate response or a more objective one, I think. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 18:57:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) On Thu, 29 May 1997, The Great Quail wrote: > No, I am terribly sorry, but I am not chairman of the welcoming > committee. Our current chairman -- Debbie "Mao" Flosshilde -- is actually > nowhere to be found, and no one has stepped up to fill her shoes yet. The > last anyone heard from her was a final frantic email from Guam, > containing only the cryptic message "Oh my God, it's full of bats." It is now time for me to reveal what I know. It seems she had stumbled upon the mysterious Cave of Clint and witnessed a trilobyte named Sven doing Mickey's Monkey. Not being in possession of a magic Mexican bean, she was unable to ward off the wrath of Clint, who, upon finding that she had witnessed this (and also seen a vegetarian cat), sent a plague of bats after her. I was sent a note by Clint's representative, Dennis Forbes, who said that if we wish to see her alive and un-batted ever again, we were required to send five gross of Hubba Bubba brand soda, a pack of Lucky Strikes (it's toasted!) and a wax replica of Elisabeth Schwarzkopf to Clint's Cave, c/o Dennis Forbes, Cleethorpes, UK. Robyn only knows what evil rituals will be done with these tools. > Pimpernel?" to which "I am most certainly NOT" is the provocative reply) > the last thing I would ever have anyone do is (eeeek) *castrate* > themselves! My Epicurean soul shrivels (Just your soul, oh gentle quail?) > at the mere thought. And besides: what would Susan think of us then? I would think you had all been horribly false to the spirit of funky aquatic lust (see The Book of Robyn, Chapter 12- The Gospel According to Ostrander), and form my own splinter cult. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:19:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: A Penis-Song Question On Fri, 30 May 1997, Runion, Michael R. wrote: > Can anyone give me any info on a song I heard Robyn and the Egyptians do > for the Lovelines KROQ show? It was quite country-fied and was something > about so-and-so having their penis cut off. Thanks to the excellent Hal Brandt, I have a tape of this as well :). As far as I know, there were -two- (count 'em kids!) penis songs. One to the kid who was afraid he masturbated too much, and the other to do (I think, I'd have to listen again) with the girl who called about having inflicted pain with her braces while orally attending to her boyfriend. Is this latter maybe the one you were thinking of? They were both pretty hysterical, IMHO. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 21:13:04 -0500 From: Hal Brandt CC: fegmaniax@ecto.org Subject: spectrefied Eddie wrote: > > >further, i would just LOVE to see every album spectrefied. Eb wrote: > > You lost me there. Huh? "Spectre" was a radio only promo CD featuring the tracks from "Respect" with spoken intros to each song by Robyn (+ some additional non-CD mixes as a bonus!) I agree with Eddie! More anagram album releases! Just don't make 'em "radio promo only". How 'bout "Antwoman-only"?! hal (Personal to MMMcD: You're quite excellent yourself!) ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: there's only yourself > I wouldn't say I'm a casual fan. After all, I do own 19 Hitchcock/Soft Boys > albums. But of those, I guess I'd say (let's see...) that I'd grade two of > them "A," four of them "A-," two of them "B" and the rest "B+." So I guess > that means I think he's a B+ artist on the whole. General > sameyness -- both lyrically and musically -- would be my chief complaint. > And perhaps an inability to truly "rock." 1) Lemme guess...A: Respect, Underwater Moonlight. B: Perspex Island, Groocy Decay 2) Robyn rocks more than he lets on. "Somewhere Apart" and "The Yip Song" are a lot ...tougher...than they appear to me. He isn't, for instance, the next Foghat, but he has his moments. 3) What is sameness in music? What is predictability? I'd admid that Robyn is lyrically a bit predictable, but then, so's Ray Davies, DEVO, and Yes. I mean...what *is* predictablility? I can point out a Squeeze album and say "Oh...this one will have nostaligic songs and very oddly placed chord and tempo changes, using fairly simple chords, descending patterns and competent, but underplayed accompaniment, with very little sociopolitical commentary, focusing more on the speaker's personal life in the first person." But that still doesn't get me "Electric Trains"... Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:57:43 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re:Virtual Cone Museum: Up & Running >Comments and suggestions most definitely accepted. Of course, there's only >one cone currently available to be viewed, but hopefully the site can >grow. It's up to you guys... Lying out there on the net, was a pleasant space In the reach of me and you, in its special space Virtual cone....museum Virtual cone....museum Pointers from our Robyn's Feggy list Told me of the things that I had missed... So I took another look, for something to download When I opened up the file, conical things showed! Virtual cone....museum Virtual cone....museum On the list there's feelers and there's toast Giving us some more reasons to post... The list was covered in Robynlust from Susan and from Kay Playlists, tabs, and Messerschmidts, until that fateful day... Virtual cone....museum Virtual cone....museum When nothing but some crop circles were found With tiny little quail's eggs all around..... James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:59:30 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Beautiful Girl tab yet a third person* wrote: >Someone wrote: >>Someone requested the tabs for Beautiful Girl off of 'Eye' >>For the "I'm in love with a beautiful girl..." it's E and A >>For the "Well, I thought I knew all about everything..." it's a slide up >>to A(5) then down to B (Am for the bridge) >Hmm.. I used to play it like this before finally deciding I'd gotten it >wrong.. I don't remember what made me think this, and as I remember the >song it certainly seems like it *could* be this, but this is what I >remember thinking. well, it's not *really* A! The "I'm in love with a beautiful girl..." is E, E/A, E, played 079900 x09900 079900 and the "Well, I thought I knew all about everything..." is A, B+E, played 077655 099870 try it - you'll like it! James (* hmmm...is this writing in the fourth person?) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:01:02 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Mystery Train >Following the correspondence about Mystery Train, which Billy Bragg and RH >were apparently performing pretty frequently on tour last year, I found >myself reading a book called 'Mystery Train' by Greil Marcus, from which >the following facts were culled: > >1) Song is by Sam Phillips and Junior Parker >[blah blah blah] scarily, there is a pretty good, if pretty yee-haa version by Emmylou Harris on her album "13". Not to be confused with Julian Cope's "Mystery Trend". James (whose writing for the day is nearing Hodge-esque proportions!) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:01:56 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: more talented female musos >Our beloved James D. from N.Z. writes: >>Well, since most of you won't have heard of Jenny Morris, I'd probably >>put my vote down for either Kate Bush or Tori Amos. And I'm glad that >>Curve have reformed... >Ah, another Curve fan! Toni Halliday's always a winner in the looks and >talent department in my book. CUCKOO is one of the most underrated albums >of the '90s. Oh, and didja know that Toni sang *prominent* backup vocals >on Robert Plant's 1985 album SHAKEN 'N' STIRRED? Just thought you'd like >to know... ooh! Thanks for the info - she collaborated with Leftfield on at least one ep that I know of. Add to the list the following: Australian band Clouds. Often sweet, occasionally raunchy in a vaguely Throwing Muses sort-of way. Raather tasty. (and how could I ever forget Ms Phair??? Yum!) James (who will try to get his thoughts back to less carnal things now...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:03:10 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Martin Newell, that thing I do Our delightful Ms Hodge sprach: >Who was it on this list that recommended "The Greatest Living Englishman"? >I picked it up yesterday and I really like it a lot. Could you tell me >some more about this Newell character? That would be me, miss(1). Can't tell you much, I'm afraid, although I know that that particular album was being talked about a LOT on the XTC list last year - mainly because of Andy Partridge's involvement. There is (or was - I don't know if it's still extant) a webpage dedicated to Mr. N: "http://monsterbit.com/longplay/bol.html" There is a mailing list dedicated to his music and the music of other musicians of a similar style: jangly, contactable on Hope that's some help >Susan >the double Gemini from one double Gemini to another, happy birthday! :) me? I'm slowly becoming a world expert in the way people estimate angles. And if you want to know about peripheral blur (2), I'm your man! Everyone's gotta do something, I suppose... James ("are you sure it looks like about 45 degrees?") (1) short for Mississippi (2) no, I don't mean the trombonist and backing vocalists they hired for their last tour. Sheesh. James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 01:10:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Martin Newell, that thing I do On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, James Dignan wrote: > Our delightful Ms Hodge sprach: You're thinking of leftenant Hodges, James! Susan's name is Dodge (as in Veg-o-matic, there in the parking lot). [see Susan, your name did make it into a song!] You people sure do post a lot! :) =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 00:20:36 -0500 (CDT) From: JH3 Subject: Subterranean Offline Blues Feggies: Does anyone know if Eric Weider (formerly at eric_wieder.giri@quickmail.ucsf.edu) is still around? He's a leaf on my branch of the Cat's Cradle tape tree, and all of my messages to him have been returned. If anyone knows his surface mail address I could just use that instead. By tomorrow afternoon there should a semi-nice J-Card for the Cat's Cradle show on my web site: http://www.alternatech.net/jh3 ...as well as my J-Cards for other Robyn tree tapes, all stored as 300-dpi GIF files. Eventually I'll get around to writing a Java program that will let you print them directly from a web-browser. Right now my target release date for this is December, 2015, but that's probably rather optimistic. Thanks... --John H. "Would-Be Leftenant" Hedges ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 01:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: bait with proof of purchase gill0042@gold.tc.umn.edu (Charles Gillett) writes: > A fruity belch from Robyn is worth more than the entire recorded > output of both Yes and The Sex Pistols. Bah. I'm going back to > lurking. oh, come on. can't say i'm much of a yes fan, but "Sub-Mission" at least is worth half of _Gravy Deco/Groovy Decay/Decoy._ (and i don't even hate it.....) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:37:54 -0700 (PDT) From: sherrett@teleport.com (Jason Sherrett) Subject: Oregon pre-show shindigs After a long hiatus I've re-joined this list. So a couple of questions for NW Fegs: Is anyone planning to make the trip down to Eugene for the show at the WOW Hall on Thursday? I've been reading about the lack of variety in recent setlists, but the WOW Hall is such a cool place it's worth the trip. And are there any plans for a pre-show gathering the next night at the Aladdin in Portland? And a question for anyone who's seen previous shows on this tour - is Tim Keegan opening every show as well as accompanying Robyn? And if so, how long has his set been running? -Jason Jason Sherrett sherrett@teleport.com ------------------------------ From: bootlegs@ix.netcom.com Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 23:13:42 -0700 Subject: Tim's set > > And a question for anyone who's seen previous shows on this tour - >is Tim Keegan opening every show as well as accompanying Robyn? And >if so, how long has his set been running? > Tim's set ran forty minutes at the Roxy last night. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:12:05 +0200 From: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch (Jeff Lawrence) Subject: Any Ed Krueper fans here (no RH content)? Sorry to post a non-topic question but I figured that *someone* on this list could help me. I was wondering whether anyone on the list is a Ed Krueper fan (ex of The Saints, a peer of the Soft Boys, the Clash, etc. - in other words during the late 70's). I've heard his stuff on radio before but have never (before moving here) been able to find his stuff. And now all the stores in Switzerland (it seems) have lots of his albums (of which there are many many many. So I am confused as to where to start. If there are any fans on the list and they have any suggestions where to start, please drop me a line *privately* at: jlaw@mem.unibe.ch unless you think the response would benefit the whole list. Thanks!! ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 04:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) Ms. McDodge writes: << On Thu, 29 May 1997, The Great Quail wrote: > No, I am terribly sorry, but I am not chairman of the welcoming > committee. Our current chairman -- Debbie "Mao" Flosshilde -- is actually > nowhere to be found, and no one has stepped up to fill her shoes yet. The > last anyone heard from her was a final frantic email from Guam, > containing only the cryptic message "Oh my God, it's full of bats." It is now time for me to reveal what I know. It seems she had stumbled upon the mysterious Cave of Clint and witnessed a trilobyte named Sven doing Mickey's Monkey. Not being in possession of a magic Mexican bean, she was unable to ward off the wrath of Clint, who, upon finding that she had witnessed this (and also seen a vegetarian cat), sent a plague of bats after her. I was sent a note by Clint's representative, Dennis Forbes, who said that if we wish to see her alive and un-batted ever again, we were required to send five gross of Hubba Bubba brand soda, a pack of Lucky Strikes (it's toasted!) and a wax replica of Elisabeth Schwarzkopf to Clint's Cave, c/o Dennis Forbes, Cleethorpes, UK. >> Susan, thank GOD you received word of Deb's whereabouts! Imagine my shame when I was unable to report with confidence her most recent plight. But given her dire situation at the moment, I am compelled to reveal a few facts in hopes that it sheds light as to our Cult of Feg course of action on her behalf. Apparently in shock at the sight of Sven the trilobite (which she knew full-well went extinct in the Permian) our beloved chairman passed out. When she awoke, she found that she'd actually been the unwitting victim of a poison blowpipe belonging to a smiling Micronesian native woman. (Note: If you're wondering where I got this information, it was delivered to me in a tiny note strapped to the leg of one of those filthy neo-tropical birds.) Now Susan, here's the peculiar part. The note said that only *you* would understand the rest... It seems that she was taken to the nearby Yap Islands where the natives took VERY good care of her, tending to her every desire, feeding her oysters, passion fruit and carefully pouring guava juice past her waiting lips. Could she be indulging in funky tropical lust of the slippery kind? I'm not sure she *wants* to be rescued. ;) Please let us know if you hear more. We miss you Deb! Ciao, Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:03:52 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Mystery Train On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, James Dignan wrote: [apropos 'Mystery Train'] > scarily, there is a pretty good, if pretty yee-haa version by Emmylou > Harris on her album "13". Incidentally, all those soi-disant critics who say that Chuck Berry can't write songs could do worse than listen to Emmylou's version of 'You Never Can Tell'. Yee-hah! - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:15:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: 52 Stations I happened to be on a Northern Line underground train this morning and - I know it sounds sad, but it was very early and I was trying to keep myself awake - counted the stations on the map. There's 50. So did Robyn pick 52 because it's a nicer number? Or it works better in a lyric? Or have two stations disappeared? Just a random thought for the day. Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Insanity is big business. And vice versa." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:54:09 -0700 From: Debora Subject: Re: 52 Stations Gary Sedgwick wrote: > > I happened to be on a Northern Line underground train this morning and - > I know it sounds sad, but it was very early and I was trying to keep > myself awake - counted the stations on the map. There's 50. So did Robyn > pick 52 because it's a nicer number? Or it works better in a lyric? Or > have two stations disappeared? > > Just a random thought for the day. > > Gary > Is it increasing the information of our Robyn library, or crossing into fanaticism? Can't answer that, but I do know that when I checked my map about seven years ago there were 51. There likely was another which disappeared before then, but 52 does sound much better than 51, IMHO. Debora, who's eagerly anticipating the shows in 4 days despite all the wonderful posts about earlier shows. There just adding to my excitement! :) ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 12:16:16 EDT Subject: Re: 52 Stations Gary Sedgwick wrote: > > I happened to be on a Northern Line underground train this morning and - > I know it sounds sad, but it was very early and I was trying to keep > myself awake - counted the stations on the map. There's 50. So did Robyn > pick 52 because it's a nicer number? Or it works better in a lyric? Or > have two stations disappeared? > > Just a random thought for the day. > > Gary Check the feglist archives for the answer. Fylde, Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 13:00:38 EDT From: KeN SaBaTiNi Subject: and another thing (non RH) Hi, I have been hesitant to further the discussion about the validity and appropriateness of the Eb Method post, but let me just say this and then I'll no longer comment about it listwide. Its easy to focus on a side point when the main point is less defensible. Here I mean: Eb's focusing on whether it is allowable and good to be able to say anything that might be at all construed to be anti-Robyn. Of course it is great to hear divergent opinions and its clearly boring to read nothing but "I agree too" posts. Few would challenge this. Certainly good, and even great, lines of discussion have resulted in extreme posts written to make a point, spark thought, etc. My only points that I wanted to come through were: * That I was troubled by what I saw were recent patterns in the way people were being treated on the listwide posts--the one's that I saw seemed to originate with Eb. * When I looked at how these debates/insult trades began I found that the recent ones started with a general negative/controversial comment, which was then responded to by others (normally in a pretty civil manner), which was followed by a counter response plus personal attack plus another general controversial comment. GNC-->GR--->CR + PA + GNC2-->(then the arrows start going all over the place) GNC=Generally neg. comment; GR=General response; CR=Counter response; PA=Personal Attack; GNC2=GNC#2 The only thing that bothered me was the personal attack piece. The minority opinion expression is great, but why does it need to be followed by making others look foolish? It just seemed like Eb's then-recent comments were designed to stir people up (which is fine) but that he was waiting/hoping(?) for people to respond in the obvious way so that he could unload on them, both with logical arguments and personal insults. People can make the same points in a fairly kind or in a meanspirited way. Was my Eb Method post meanspirited? Probably, so I object there too. Sure its all my opinion, sure most people could care less, etc. I'm done. PS Don't trust anyone who doesn't like The Apples in Stereo. See, I've done learnt the method. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken Sabatini Being a genius is easy. Dept. of Psychology All you have to do is say, "everything is wrong." University of Georgia You'll always be right. Athens, GA -some Ren & Stimpy side character ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Please, Please.... Hello, If somebody going to any of the remaining shows could get the "Superkeen" single (and the vinyl "Lucky 13" single) for me, I would greatly appreciate it. I will pay you for your troubles OF COURSE (cost of shipping too). I have a little gift for the person who could do this for me. THANKS griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Title needed for story Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 12:11:13 -0700 From: Tom Clark "The Lobster Gang" On Sat, 31 May 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > I'm working on this story... > 2) Chapter nine's title must pertain to dreams. "Me, I only dream of you... I hope that you are dreaming too." from "Love" - _Black Snake Diamond Role_ -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Cheez Whiz is not something you eat... It's something you see a urologist for." - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 12:41:55 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Meeting at the SF show, Wednesday June 4th Thanks to some off-list discussion between a few of the Bay Area "globe" who met at the last SF gig, we now have a plan for the San Francisco show at the Great American Music Hall on Wednesday... Anyone planning to come to the show is welcome to join us. Last time we did this it worked out really well, we met some very cool people and had a blast, so don't be shy. Before the show: >From 5:00pm at Tommy's Joynt (an SF institution!) on Van Ness and Geary, about two blocks from the GAMH. We aim to get to the venue in plenty of time to get seats towards the front, so I my guess is we'll be leaving around 6:30pm. After the show: Those for whom sleep is a secondary priority plan to make their way to the 20 Tank Brewing Co. on 11th St. for a little post-show discussion and possible hoppy beverages. OK. So you want to join us, but how will you know who we are? Good question. We'll try to think of a suitable Feggy symbol to adorn our table, but in case we don't, just look for a group of incredibly attractive, intellegent and witty people among whom you may spot: Mark: Long hair. Looks like a rock-star (because he *is* one!). May be wearing a Stan Ridgway shirt. Bears an uncanny resemblance to the guy at: http://www.tigermonkey.com/mark.html Tom: Charming, handsome and bionically enhanced. Looks *absolutely nothing whatever* like the guy at http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark/ ! Glen: The brilliance of the light reflected off his recently shaved pate is matched only by his personality. Russ: Maybe it was the donation of his razors to Glen which resulted in that outgrowth of facial hair. Listen for an encyclopedic knowledge of music and/or beer. Nick: In an ongoing effort to achieve the ideal height for his weight he has now reached 6'3". May try to claim that male pattern baldness and greying hair are the result of manly testosterone, rather than just being as old as dirt. If that's not enough, point your browser to http://u2.netgate.net/~tclark/robyn/feglunch.html As well as these good people I already know of at least six more who plan to join us at some point. Should be a fun evening. If you can't make it to Tommys before the show, at least try to find us during/after to say hi. See you there! ~N ------------------------------ From: bootlegs@ix.netcom.com Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 13:06:42 -0700 Subject: Weekend Of Robyn Well, now that 24 hours have passed I have a better perspective on the WOR, or Weekend of Robyn. I live in Los Angeles and we were treated to a major dose of live stuff. WEDNESDAY, MAY 28, 1997 11:00 P.M. (PACIFIC TIME) The ‘weekend’ starts when Robyn and Tim played ten songs live in the studio. I know the set list has been posted already, but here it is again: Don't Talk To Me About Gene Hackman/Madonna Of The Wasps/ Soul Food Shopping List/Elizabeth Jade/I Saw Nick Drake/Thin/Jewels For Sophia/Superkeen/Ring Them Bones/Oceanside I recorded this to DAT. Please don’t e-mail me asking for a copy. I only have one DAT and cannot make clones. I’d rather if we collected all the M & I studio performances from this tour and put them on a compilation tape we could offer to the whole list. So, if you have one, speak up and share. FRIDAY, MAY 30, 1997 12:00 A.M. I’m acutally guessing at the time here. Robyn went on after E from the Eels. He played 67 minutes of covers and strange versions. He was joined on stage by and ever changing mixture of musicians. The main accompaniest was Jon Brion. I don’t think Jon has ever played a song the same way twice. The set list was: Dead Flowers/Don’t Talk To Me About Gene Hackman/Chinese Bones/I Dream Of Antwoman/Waterloo Sunset/I Saw Nick Drake/Give It To Me(?)/Strawberry Fields/Heliotrope/Dark Princess/Elizabeth Jade/Mail Train/Tombstone Blues I taped this to DAT and it came out very good, but more on this later. SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1997 8:00 P.M. Robyn’s show at the Roxy was pretty standard. I’m listening to it right now. Now it sounds really good. My ears were kind of fried the first time I played it. The set list was: Don't Talk To Me About Gene Hackman/Lysander/Balloon Man/Clean Steve/Madonna Of The Wasps/Jewels For Sophia/I Saw Nick Drake/Dark Princess/I'm Only You/You And Oblivion/Raymond Chandler Evening/Freeze/Kingdom Of Love (Encore) Speed Of Things/Queen Of Eyes/Queen Elvis/Beautiful Queen/I Often Dream Of Trains I liked the way they played three “queen” songs in a row. I was particularly impressed when Tim Keegan joined Robyn on stage. I taped Tim’s set also(40min). The Roxy is where I met another taper, James. I met James a month ago at a record swap meet. He managed to talk me out of an extra copy of the Beautiful Queen promo. The idea was we would trade some tapes later. James and I planned to go to Largo after the Roxy show, but we were a bit worried we might not get in. Largo holds maybe 130 people and this night was not as secret. We scanned Robyn’s set list and saw that IODOT was the last song. So, when everyone else was waiting for Robyn to play a second encore, we were already in our cars. SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1997 1:00 A.M. Robyn comes on stage and plays a completely different set(except for Antwoman). He was joined by Grant Lee Phillips from Grant Lee Buffalo. They played Sirus Minor, Trams Of Old London, and as Bayard mentioned Uncorrected Personality Traits. Grant wanted to do this and had “his people” print up lyrics and Grant, Robyn, and Tim gave it a try. The show lasted about 90 minutes. Afterword, I hung out as James said Robyn would be coming down to sign autographs. Just then, James was approached by Robyn’s manager Steve. Steve explained that Largo’s tape of the show didn’t come out and could he have a copy of Steve’s tape.(James is pretty out in the open about his taping). Anyway, James asks Steve if he would like a DAT of the show and directs Steve to me....... Steve proceeds to ask for the tape. When I offer to make a copy, Steve threatens me in a friendly, English manor and I reluctantly give up the tape. James was allowed to keep his ananlog tape, but they way. Steve takes down my name, address, and phone number and gives me his card with the same information. He promises me that they will make a copy and return my tape. The fact that they let James keep his tape helps me believe this might actually happen. The worst thing is I used the tape of the first Largo show to tape the second. So, right now I don’t have either show. And I learned a priceless lesson. Never talk to James Bone. This ends the Weekend Of Robyn and the Period Of Waiting Has Begun. Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .