From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #116 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 116 Thursday May 29 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Curiosity Two bits for batchelor #1... autographs languidly languishing Milwaukee Show Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke Career Day more yakking Re: road-weary Robyn Re: autographs? Fegmenia! Re: road-weary Robyn Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke Re: Scanner anyone? Bay Area Gigs I Want Your Sex (M or F?) Re: Trial size. Used by juries everywhere... Re: Marriage proposal (Astonishingly little RH) The Taming of the Rew/BW Re: Marriage proposal (Astonishingly little RH) Re: Arty fact and fiction Re: A female's curiousity is piqued Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke Mystery Train again Re: Mystery Train again Re: Feg Digest V5 #115 still curious Re: road-weary Robyn Re: autographs? Come see the Live Death CD! Re: What we call ourselves Musical Discovery (0% RH) Scott McCaughey finally (!) part two of the detroit show review Re: (1% RH) Musical Discovery Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:15:14 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: Curiosity On Wed, 28 May 1997, Renee Lynn wrote: > For the record, (read: dejanews) I am female, a paleontologist, lust after > Robyn, and hated The Lost World. Is that because you are a paleontologist or because it's a bad movie (or both)? BTW, what is an average day as a paleontologist like? I'm impressed with the variety of occupations on this--even dictionary writers. Maybe we should have a career day where people can write in and tell us what they do. Just a thought, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:25:52 -0700 From: "Mark \"the rubber chicken of love\" Gloster" Subject: Two bits for batchelor #1... Bayard is the nicest guy in the world. He's witty and smart, but he has a few strange friends. All of the single femalia in feglandia should answer both of his last posts. -markg passing into the realm of object of palientological study ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:40:59 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: autographs languidly languishing also sprach nick: >A new thread topic... which unusual item would *you* like Robyn to sign? the nissan hubcap which mysteriously appeared on my doorstep last night. all things considered, i never really understood the appeal of autographs. the only item i've ever had signed was a emptv headbanger's ball jean jacket (which i won at a radio convention and promptly spray-painted the logo black), which is graced by the signatures of tori amos and neil gaiman (neil uttered the classic line, "i'll sign anything under tori!" when asked). if i ever found myself in the position to ask robyn for an autograph, i've often fancied that i'd ask him if he wanted mine instead. also sprach gene: >I saw Elysian Fields last week, too -- the gal who fronts that band drips >sex -- the New Yorker just described her as a cross between Juliette Lewis >and Morticia Adams. jennifer charles. she gives the word "languid" new dimensions. very soft-spoken and shy off-stage, but manipulative as all get go when she's behind the mic. also sprach andy: >Maybe we should have a career day where people can write in and >tell us what they do. we did this once -- the fabled fegographics which are still rotting in some dusty directory somewhere. (i promise that the guitar tab will make it to the web site quicker then that.) woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:54:01 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: Milwaukee Show Fegs, A small break in work has finally allowed me to write more about the Milwaukee Show. The Shank Hall was a terrific facility to see Robyn and Tim. Very small with mostly all seating. At most 200 people were present. A fairly sedate crowd and polite. The set list that I have is: Gene Hackman Balloon Man 1974 Beautiful Girl DeChirico Street* Madonna Of the Wasps* Elizabeth Jade* I'm Only You I am not Me You and Oblivion Autumn is Your Last Chance Freeze Only The Stones Remain My Wife and My Dead Wife Oceanside* All Right, Yeah* Beautiful Queen* Speed of Things *with Tim Like Chicago, Robyn returned for encores in a polka dot shirt. Unlike Chicago, after playing De Chirico Street, Robyn felt that a chorus was missing so he played a bit of chorus again. Then he decided that he had played that chorus and played a snippit more of the song and finished. My tape of the Milwaukee show is excellent. The best I've ever done. I am happy to trade with anyone who wants a copy. My tape of the Chicago show had some technical difficulties and about 2/3 of the show made it to tape. I can include this as sort of bonus. Interested traders, please email directly. Michael ------------------------------ From: JASONBRAB@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 19:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke On Mon 26 May, 1997, The King of the Archway Mods wrote: >>A usually reliable source has informed me that five of the songs on the Spice Girls' first album, including 'Wannabe', were written by a certain Mr KImberley Rew...... >>I've spotted him in the audience at two SGs gigs.<< If The Spice Girls make you choke, why were you at 2 of their gigs?!?!?!?! Just wondering... JASON P.S. (I personally wouldn't mind making a few of The Spice Girls choke...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:15:35 -0400 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Career Day >Maybe we should have a career day where people can write in and >tell us what they do. Okay, I'll bite (seeing as I'm sitting home in a dark bedroom with a sore throat as I dub RH tapes for too many people, listening to the baby cry downstairs...yeah, I called in sick today). I'm a Quality Engineer/Data Analyst for the Base Operations Contract down here at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. In short, I help launch shuttles. __________________________________________________________ Mike Runion Cocoa, Florida email: mrrunion@tng.net (home) email: Michael.Runion-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov WWW: http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm "A perfect circle of acquaintances and friends, Drink another, coin a phrase..." -REM __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 19:23:20 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: more yakking regarding robyn's between-song banter...i guess i've recognized that it's the main attraction (or a main attraction anyways) to many fegs and non-feg fans alike. i've never really thought the stories were as funny as others and never really enjoyed them...nor disliked them. i appreciate the really good ones when they happen (e.g., the tale of the finnish grin and the toothpaste artist which surfaced at one of march's knitting factory gigs) and let my mind wander during the less intriguing ones. personally, i find the recent trend towards relatively samey setlists more troublesome than his prediliction to let the mouth wander. so did anyone ever get back to susan about martin newell? i know little about him -- just that he was an instrumental member of the brotherhood of lizards (a tape of whose i have thanks to erstwhile feg jim davies) and the cleaners from venus (and album of whose i may have...i think - i forget). john relph (another member of the top secret hush-hush mailing list manager cabal) manages the jangly mailing list which is loosely based on martin's work (as well as, as the name implies, other music along those lines). if that sounds appealing (it does to me, but i can barely keep up with the mail i get now), you can subscribe by way of . more information at the jangly central website: . woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:49:20 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: road-weary Robyn On Wed, 28 May 1997 Tom Clark's bruvver wrote: > > Robyn was sub-par last night. > > Overall, probably the worst RH show I've ever seen, but still miles > > above Hootie. I think he might be getting sick of it. And Hal added: > I've a sneaking suspicion that he may be getting sick of it (live > shows) as well. In Chicago, his first words were (paraphrasing) "I'm > really, really old..." [snip] > His new tunes are always good... [snip] > But, smoky clubs, > inattentive 90's crowds, Queen of Eyes for the zillionth time...who > needs it, you know? It's actually amazing that he hasn't burned out > before now. Well, touring is certainly a sport for the young and fit - I can tell you that I know *I* would find Robyn's travel schedule pretty grueling (I'm not *quite* his age, but catching up fast). Also, remember he's only human after all, and is bound to have on and off-days like everybody else. One more thing.. no, two more things (nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!): Firstly, I vaguely remember someone posting that they thought that this tour had been instigated by his record company, not Robyn (to keep the momentum going between the album and the movie). Always one for control over his own destiny, I would imagine (if true) that this might have a big effect on the man's mood. A grueling tour is hard enough, but a grueling contractual obligation tour... Secondly, as for as his continuing into the future goes; I think the answer has been touched on by many here. Collaboration. Seeing how he interacted with Denni last year, and reading about how he's more energized playing with Tim Keegan I'm sure this is the key. Given this I'm not suprised to hear that he'll be getting together with a few mates in Seattle for the next album. It makes perfect sense to me, too, as much of the joy I find in playing music is in the interaction with others. I can appreciate Robyn's need for control, of course, but I think the loss of at least some of that is a necessary trade-off when you turn professional, effectively supporting not only yourself, but many others through your work. Robyn seems to still be torn between the idea of the "troubadour" types who used to tour the folk clubs where I first saw him play - one man and a beat-up Martin dreadnought in a VW camper van (Am."microbus") with complete freedom to go anywhere and play anything - and the alterno- rock star with the respect (Richard Thompson), or exposure and money (Pete Buck) to do whatever he wants. The trouble is that to get from A to Z there's a whole alphabet of stages where control of your career is in the hands of someone else. It seems like a wall he can't get over. Maybe the movie will do it for him. Hope so. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:36:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: autographs? Just since we've talking so much about autographs lately, here's who I have signed records/CDs by (drat, no Hitchcock): Laurie Anderson, The Balancing Act, The Bats, Beat Happening, Beck, Adrian Belew, Bettie Serveert, Frank Black, David Byrne, Exene Cervenka, Eugene Chadbourne, Cibo Matto, Cocteau Twins, The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Downy Mildew, Firehose, The Flaming Lips, Juliana Hatfield, House of Freaks, Hugo Largo, The Jazz Butcher, Killdozer, Chris Knox, Komeda, The Loud Family, Luna, Lush, Kirsty MacColl, Roger Miller (ex-Mission of Burma, not King of the Road), Monks of Doom, Thurston Moore, Martin Phillipps (the Chills), Placebo, Poi Dog Pondering, Redd Kross, Shonen Knife, The Spinanes, Stereolab, Straitjacket Fits, Stump (who remembers them? :)), The Sugarplastic, Matthew Sweet, That Dog, Thin White Rope, The Wedding Present, Ween, Victoria Williams and Wire. Most of the above are strictly cult acts, but I suppose a few of them (Laurie Anderson, Beck, Adrian Belew, David Byrne, Cocteau Twins, Lush, Wire) might have some cash value. Anyone else? :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:42:13 -0400 From: Scary Mary Subject: Fegmenia! Bayard the Kind wrote: >not only are there a lot of females on the list, it must be said they are >all smart and beautiful. really. too bad more of them don't post! Thanks for the kind words Bayard. I haven't met all the guys on the list but I'm sure they are all as handsome and smart as the ones I know or have met. As for Robyn content, I was going to write about how I thought Visage's Night Train and Robyn's Night Ride to Trinidad sounded similar, but on a second listen I think I was mistaken. Mary http://www.wizard.net/~loona ps Hi Jeff P. ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: road-weary Robyn In a message dated 97-05-28 20:52:17 EDT, winkworth@hdshq.com wrote: << I vaguely remember someone posting that they thought that this tour had been instigated by his record company, not Robyn (to keep the momentum going between the album and the movie). Always one for control over his own destiny, I would imagine (if true) that this might have a big effect on the man's mood. A grueling tour is hard enough, but a grueling contractual obligation tour... >> It is not my feeling or understanding that this tour is in ANY WAY a contractual obligation for Robyn, and here's why: Right after the first of the year there were some MAJOR shake ups over in Warner land. We're talking massive lay offs across the company. I'm pretty good friends with the local Warner rep here in Chicago, and I know from her point of view that there is FAR too much going on in the promotion departments right now for them to be concerned, quite frankly, in supporting a record that is now nine months old (don't worry- it pisses her off too that she doesn't have the time / isn't allowed to give projects the attention they deserve). She couldn't even make it to the Robyn show here because the company had her busy with Erasure. My main reason for not feeling this is a contractual tour, however, is because she learned about Robyn's House Of Blues show here in Chicago FROM ME!!!! That's right, I called to ask her about it and she had no clue, hadn't been informed, and had nothing planned for it. If this tour were contractual in nature, I'm certain the folks at WB would have made a Chicago show a pretty high priority seeing as it is one of Robyn's strongest markets in the US. Here's a better assumption, in my opinion: Robyn makes more money on tour then he does from record sales. In order to produce his next project without selling (the rest of) his soul to Warner Brothers, he needs some change in his pocket for studio time. In other words, it may indeed be an "obligation" for him, but only one based on self preservation and perpetuation. There's my 50 cents. :) Blinking On And Off, Jay H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:43:26 -0500 (CDT) From: John Littlejohn Subject: Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke On Wed, 28 May 1997 JASONBRAB@aol.com wrote: > If The Spice Girls make you choke, why were you at 2 of their gigs?!?!?!?! > Just wondering... > JASON > P.S. (I personally wouldn't mind making a few of The Spice Girls choke...) The first real laugh I've had in ages. Very good; I approve. JL -* "Si vous m'obstaclerez, je vous liquiderai" - Churchill -* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:59:59 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: Scanner anyone? >> I finally tracked down a (small) picture of a Mrs. Wafflehead. It is >> a picture of a female model, with an Eggo-like waffle for a hat. If >> any feg would like this picture to scan and put on a web site, I will >> gladly mail the picture to her/him. >> >> Please contact me. >> >> griffith > >If someone wants this and does *not* have a scanner, I'd be happy to do >the deed for them. Just let me know and I'll ask GD for the pic. > >Alternatively, whoever scans it first could distribute it. >~N well, if you end up with the pic, PLEASE post it somewhere so we can see it! I at the very least want to see it.. LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last updated 17 May 1997 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 me dad just lost our bookmark file. if i need to have your URL, please send it to me! ------------------------------ From: "Tickle Me Tamagotchi" Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:33:26 -0800 Subject: Bay Area Gigs I am planning to go to the Mill Valley and San Francisco gigs. No plans (yet) to go to Sacramento, however. Where is everyone meeting for these shows? Are we Mr. Feg? What is the name of the venue in Mill Valley and does anyone have directions? Looking forward to seeing all of you... *Possible Collective Nouns for fegs: A Festoon Of Fegs A Globe Of Fegs That's all, --g "It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission." --Bernie Ward ********************** Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ********************** ------------------------------ From: "Tickle Me Tamagotchi" Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:33:26 -0800 Subject: I Want Your Sex (M or F?) Regarding Sex: I am not a girl, although sometimes I wish I were a pretty one. ;P L8rZ, --g "It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission." --Bernie Ward ********************** Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ********************** ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Trial size. Used by juries everywhere... In a message dated 97-05-28 14:45:15 EDT, winkworth@hdshq.com (Nick Winkworth) writes: << > Are any of you Bay Area Fegs planning to > make it to Melarkey's on Tuesday? Not as far as I know. But if you can make it to the SF show as well you'll run into a whole of us! Sounds like more than a few will be going over to the Mill Valley show, also. >> If I *can* make it to the GAMH on Wednesday, where will you all be? Are you linking up beforehand? Let me know! <<* OK guys, what *is* the collective noun for Fegs???>> Well, Susan recently suggested a "gaggle". How about a "pod"? Or--as one who is partial to wine-tasting--a "flight"? Has a nice ring, don't you think? "A flight of Fegs was spotted in the vicinity of the venue..." BTW--thank you for the nice welcome, Nick. :) Sydney ------------------------------ From: SydneyC33@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Marriage proposal (Astonishingly little RH) In a message dated 97-05-28 01:40:27 EDT, sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (Mississippi Malcolm McDowell) writes: << As to your question, no, actually, the Great Quail is, rather, the head of our Cult (you did accept the position, didn't you, Great One?). Of course if he wishes to greet you as well, count yourself fortunate :). >> Oh, our Cult! Tell me, did we purchase fertile Feg lands in Oregon upon which to toil side-by-side to raise tomatoes genetically-altered to look like RH's head? <> You have NO IDEA how much I'm looking forward to *this* ritual... ;) <> I'll share mine, dear Susan. Thank you for making me feel so welcome. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. Here. Have some dishwasher soap and a 2 for 1 coupon for a Grand Slam Breakfast. :) Ciao, Sydney ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 02:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Taming of the Rew/BW Boy...looks like Rew is just gear over in Europe...in the USA, Katrina and the Waves are just another drop in the "Whatever happened to" bucket. His CD's are unavailable, except for a few... Yet he's big. Really big. And successful. In the exact way that Robyn isn't big and successful. Sometimes it seems that out of the Soft Boys, Robyn, Andy and Morris did the worst...(anyone know what happened to Jim Melton? or Alan "Wang Bo" Davies?) with Kimberly having a fair number of hits (Walking on Sunshine, Strike a Light, GOing Down to Liverpool), and Matt going on to be an in-demand sessions man....Not that I don't love the man's albums. And I saw Brian Wilson giving a speech at the Rock'N'Roll Hall fo Fame on VH1...(he was inducting the Bee Gees). He wasn't slim, but he wasn't fat either. Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:04:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Marriage proposal (Astonishingly little RH) On Thu, 29 May 1997 SydneyC33@aol.com wrote: > Oh, our Cult! Tell me, did we purchase fertile Feg lands in Oregon upon > which to toil side-by-side to raise tomatoes > genetically-altered to look like RH's head? Yes. We feed them to vegetarian cats as we chant "Wangbo! Wangbo!". It is transcendant. > < from the Orient :).>> > > You have NO IDEA how much I'm looking forward to *this* ritual... ;) I'm sure we are as well ;). Time for you to learn the true meaning of "Egyptian Cream", my dear. > I'll share mine, dear Susan. Thank you for making me feel so welcome. And I > mean that from the bottom of my heart. Here. Have some > dishwasher soap and a 2 for 1 coupon for a Grand Slam Breakfast. :) Well, now I'm not so sorry I didn't get one! Or are you just saving the good coupons for yourself? :) I'll bet you are. I bet you got an all expenses paid trip to Cleethorpes that you're not telling us about. Love on ya, Susan grooving on a(n) inner plane ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:10:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Arty fact and fiction On Wed, 28 May 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > > do we have a FAQ? And if so, why isn't this one on it? "He just-a 109's > > 'em" refers to the Dr. Messerschmidt of the previous line, creator of the > > ME-109, Germany's most potent warplane of World War 2. PS - what with this > > and the Yip song, are there any other Robyn songs which refer to warplanes? > > There are drowned airmen in that one on Globe of Frogs, aren't there? And > those fish-bomber illustrations on the alternative UM cover. Why, in "Filthy Bird", of course, there's a whole verse about warplanes ("many's the Eagle on the wing/checking their instruments before they bomb the children/as they sing"). Unless I've drastically misinterpreted it. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:17:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: A female's curiousity is piqued On Wed, 28 May 1997, twofangs/randi spiegel wrote: > In response to the question about females on the list, I would like to > "hi," and make it known that I am both a person and a female who > respects Robyn greatly. Yup, sorry. When I was listing the female list population I was going completely off the top of my head, so of course there were too many for me to remember everyone. Appy-polly-loggies to whoever I missed :). > However, whenever I see him in person I find myself melting into puddles > of goo like Susan and LSDiamond. It's an inescapable experience I've > found. Well, for us it is, anyway. I sometimes wonder if the erotically charged nature of a lot of his work has something to do with this. It does for me. > "Come hither, ma li'l bundle, and wrap your flesh around my 'bowens.' > Don't you got a kiss for me..." - RHitchcock Hey! He never said that to -me-! No fair! :) I will refrain at this time from quoting the one line that gives me shivers. Some of you know what it is :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:21:21 +0100 (BST) From: dench Subject: Re: Please excuse me wile [sic] I choke Have the Spice Girls actually played any 'gigs'? I thought they were making their live debut in Istanbul - a suitable venue!!! On Wed, 28 May 1997 JASONBRAB@aol.com wrote: > On Mon 26 May, 1997, The King of the Archway Mods wrote: > > >>A usually reliable source has informed me that five of the songs on the > > Spice Girls' first album, including 'Wannabe', were written by a certain Mr > > KImberley Rew...... > >>I've spotted him in the audience at two SGs gigs.<< > > If The Spice Girls make you choke, why were you at 2 of their gigs?!?!?!?! > Just wondering... > JASON > P.S. (I personally wouldn't mind making a few of The Spice Girls choke...) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:49:54 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Mystery Train again Following the correspondence about Mystery Train, which Billy Bragg and RH were apparently performing pretty frequently on tour last year, I found myself reading a book called 'Mystery Train' by Greil Marcus, from which the following facts were culled: 1) Song is by Sam Phillips and Junior Parker 2) Original version by Junior Parker on Sun Records 3) However, first verse lyric is lifted from a very old (1927?) Carter Family song "Worried Man Blues" 4) Bigger hit version by Elvis Presley, also on Sun Records 5) Version by the Band on Moondog Matinee (?) has additional middle lyric by Robbie Robertson: Went down to the station To meet my baby at the gate I asked the station master "Is that train running late?" He said "If you're waiting for that old forty-four, I hate to tell you son That train don't stop here any more" Not having heard the BB/RH version, I don't know whether they included this Robbie Robertson bit or not. - Mike Godwin PS I was driving behind M969 FEG last night! There were seven little prawns sitting in the back seat drinking a barrel of vodka and lime... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 97 12:14:07 BST A turnip in a silver box From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: Mystery Train again At 11:49 AM 29/5/97, M R Godwin wrote: >5) Version by the Band on Moondog Matinee (?) has additional middle lyric >by Robbie Robertson: > >Went down to the station >To meet my baby at the gate >I asked the station master >"Is that train running late?" >He said "If you're waiting >for that old forty-four, >I hate to tell you son >That train don't stop here any more" > >Not having heard the BB/RH version, I don't know whether they included >this Robbie Robertson bit or not. I seem to recall RH singing about the old forty-four when he performed the song during the Isle of Wight bus trip - I think you were there, Mike, do you remember that verse ? Maybe it's on the "Two Halves" version and I'm getting confused. Latest news on Bob can be found at: http://edlis.org/twice/threads/dylan_hospitalization_update.html - not sure when they're getting the BobCam installed. Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 10:02:49 -0400 From: biggles Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #115 Sez James: > do we have a FAQ? And if so, why isn't this one on it? "He just-a 109's > 'em" refers to the Dr. Messerschmidt of the previous line, creator of the > ME-109, Germany's most potent warplane of World War 2. PS - what with this > and the Yip song, are there any other Robyn songs which refer to warplanes? Sez I: My Favorite warplane reference in a Robyn song is: "The missing Avenger planes/ will never return to base/ don't you wait up for them." from The Wreck of the Arthur Lee. I believe he is referring to the five Avenger planes which went down in the Bermuda Triangle and never found (The government found five planes a few years back and thought the mystery solved, but they turned out to be the wrong kind of planes.) I also recall an interview with Robyn in Rolling Stone which took place at the National Air and Space Museum. He said it was one of his favorite haunts when he lived in the Washington D.C area. On another topic, Robyn's Fylde guitar is notable in that it has a zero fret at the nut which might contribute something to the sound of all the strange open-stringed chords he plays. Or it might just be an oddity, like a third nipple. Biggles-who might have a fourth person sig file, if he knew how to create a sig file. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:15:55 -0400 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: still curious >not only are there a lot of females on the list, it must be said they are >all smart and beautiful. really. obviously. >For the record, (read: dejanews) I am female, a paleontologist, lust after >Robyn, and hated The Lost World. what about that terrifying trilobite bit? >> "Come hither, ma li'l bundle, and wrap your flesh around my 'bowens.' >> Don't you got a kiss for me..." - RHitchcock > >Hey! He never said that to -me-! No fair! me niether, but this comes to mind: "come you fair and tender creature, oh whatever be your trade lie 'cross the tattoed carpet and prepare to lick the blade" KEN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:17:59 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: road-weary Robyn On Wed, 28 May 1997, Nick Winkworth wrote: > Robyn seems to still be torn between the idea of the "troubadour" types > who used to tour the folk clubs where I first saw him play - one man and > a beat-up Martin dreadnought in a VW camper van (Am."microbus") with > complete freedom to go anywhere and play anything - This is what the great Michael Chapman does nowadays. He once had a big build-up from Harvest Records, toured with electric bands, all that stuff, but now he just motors about solo with a guitar and a few effects pedals. No hassles, no overheads, sells a few records and tapes at the gigs... > and the alterno- > rock star with the respect (Richard Thompson), or exposure and money > (Pete Buck) to do whatever he wants. I think RH still hankers after that elusive hit record. ME wasn't hot enough: it still sounds to me like a very disparate collection of recordings which don't hang together as an album. Maybe if he cuts the next one quite quickly in one studio with one set of musicians, and it hits the streets soon after the film, that might do the trick. - hssmrg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:22:00 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: autographs? Eb sed: [long, admirable list of autographs deleted] >Stump (who remembers them? :)), "How much is the fish!? Does the fish have chips!? How much is the chips!?" Yessiree, I remember those nuts. Too bad they disappeared. >Anyone else? :) I collect them just because it's fun, not for resale value. It makes the gig more memorable to me when I get an autograph. Well, I have the autographed Respect lithograph, which is nice, but it came from A&M and not Uncle Bobby himself; Spot 1019; Glass Eye; My Bloody Valentine; Severed Heads; half of the Jesus Lizard; and my pride and joy, an autographed copy of Foetus' first album "Deaf." __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:53:46 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Come see the Live Death CD! Hey you web-enabled Fegs, In yet another fit of Internet Restlessness (well, urm, actually, it was Bayard who suggested I do it), I have scanned the covers for A&M's Live Death promo CD. Point your favorite browser at the following URL and gawk endlessly at a rare Uncle Bobby item. I also put up the song lists and tour dates printed on the CD. http://204.71.244.120/gene/live-death.html __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:48:35 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: What we call ourselves On Wed, 28 May 1997 John Littlejohn buzzed: > > On Wed, 28 May 1997, Nick Winkworth wrote: > > > * OK guys, what *is* the collective noun for Fegs??? > > > > We're a Globe of Fegs, natch. This is the correct answer, of course. I was just testing. :) ~N ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 10:44:32 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Musical Discovery (0% RH) Among the many good things I've got from this list are pointers to bands and artists that I was not aware of before. I always like to explore new music and many Fegs I've met share this trait. Now I have the opportunity to return the favor and maybe turn you on to someone I've just discovered who I think is without doubt one of the best new artists I've come across in years - and someone I think would appeal to many of Robyns fans. His name is Dan Bern. Here is a quote from the bio on his web page: > It's impossible to categorize Dan's material. He'd rather you didn't > try... One New York writer was confident enough to offer: > > "topical-political-poetical-sarcastic-punk-pop-folk," > > This year at the Vancouver Folk Festival, an audience of nearly 3000 > listeners gave Dan a standing ovation following his ballad Olkahoma. > The song touches a kind of universal consciousness communicating both > the personal tragedy and the collective societal horror of the > Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. Then he played a song about how Marilyn > Monroe should have married Henry Miller (instead of Arthur Miller). > > But that's how it works with Dan. One minute you're laughing at a > talkin' blues about alien abduction, the next you find yourself > suprisingly moved by an ode to his sister, and the next you're > dancing to a melodic groove about the complexity of relationships. > Always with an honesty that's disarming, brutal, endearing, > entertaining, intelligent and unpredictable. Dan is that rare artist > who shows us something about ourselves. >From "Pulse!" magazine" > "Bern's facility with language recalls the young Bob Dylan as > well as literary icons like John Fante and Raymond Chandler, > while his melodies echo the acidic pop of Elvis Costello and the > British new wave, but Bern's surrealistic sense of humor and > compassion mark him as a unique new voice." You may find the vocal resemblance to His Bobness rather alarming at first (not helped by gratuitous harmonica playing on a couple of tracks), but there the comparison stops. The tangential stream-of-conciousness lyrics where things are taken to a twisted logical conclusion (i.e. if Marilyn Monroe had married *Henry* Miller she'd have gone to Paris, smoked dope, had wild sex, dyed her hair blue ...and might be alive today.) is what most makes me think of Robyn. Of course as always, YMMV. If any of the above appeals to you I recommend you check him out. The CD is just called "Dan Bern". It's on Sony/Work records. If you do (or already know Dan's work) let me know what you think. ~N Oh yeah. The website is http://www.music.sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/DanBern/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Scott McCaughey (I think that is how his named is spelled) Scott is one busy guy. He is currently touring with The Magnificent 7 Vs. The World (That's Tuatara, Mark Eitzel, Minus 5). The tour ends (so far) in Atlanta, GA on 05/31. I mention this becuase Scott is also in The Young Fresh Fellows, who are scheduled to support Robyn on 06/13 in Seattle at the Viva Se-Tac 2 show. If you can make it, go see the Tuatara show (it runs about 2.5 hours straight, no breaks). For you REM fans out there, just go to see Peter Buck playing vibes. griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 14:20:04 -0400 From: twofangs/randi spiegel Subject: finally (!) part two of the detroit show review Okay, time to post some final comments about the Detroit show, Thursday, May 22, 1997, at the "Magic Stick." songs and robyn's banter(B)... ...acoustic... Gene Hackman (B) - "The next one is about a WWII reconnaissance aircraft flying endlessly over a checkerboard landscape about 600ft above the ground...there's a thin river of blood it's tracing...this bloody red river...and there's these huge 700ft high chess pieces...you know the knight if you play chess...there's all these horses' heads and they're swivelling to follow the plane...they've got red eyes that glow...as the plane passes they trip a photo-electric cell and this causes a toilet to flush in Ann Arbor." Lysander Serpent At The Gates Of Wisdom Clean Steve - using a "d" harmonica and some fab lyrics ...joined by Tim... De Chirico Street dedicates next song to a Detroit dj (B)- "who played some fantastic records this morning which I didn't listen to 'cause we didn't realize he had played them until we turned the radio on after he had stopped...but it's nice to hear some really good records back announced...it's like someone comes on and tells you what they aired...unless you're really starving you're quite pleased for them...you can enjoy hearing about how the avocado was chopped and the splintered bloody ribs and all that kind of stuff." Madonna Of The Wasps ***new song - titled "Elizabeth Jade" RH introduced - "this song has never been played anywhere at all...it's being test driven specifically here in Detroit"*** ...exit Tim... (B)- "I'm sorry to hear they're demolishing the Hudson's building...it's a shame you can't take it with you...I saw Donald Trump once...and he was standing outside this new tower he'd just built called 'Trump's Great Erection' or something...he had to be there so you knew who it was and who he was and the two were indelibly linked and I thought...this guy is never going to be able to take any of this with him and I felt a pang of pity for him but it'd be nice to take Hudson's with you." I'm Only You ...electric... I Am Not Me You and Oblivion She Doesn't Exist Freeze Kingdom Of Love ...encore... Speed Of Things ...enter Tim who tells RH to mention the merchandise for sale... (B)- " Theoretically I would have been selling a lot of cones tonight but I only managed to manufacture four before I passed out." Oceanside (B)- "I've just got to find the 'hail mary' pick...most of the set I use a 'baby jesus' 73mm pick...but for this song I use a 'hail mary'...you might find it hard to tell the difference if you were just walking along the street and you saw them on the pavement...you might not instantly realize which is which...the 'baby jesus' is a little bit thinner...the most interesting thing about this is that the 38mm...which is really flimsy and thin...if someone assaulted you with one of those it wouldn't be a problem....they're very flippy....that one's called the 'father joseph.'" Queen Of Eyes Beautiful Queen (B)- thank you...goodnight...sleep well Time for some personal comments. I was thrilled to be at the show because it's the first time I've been healthy (and relatively pain-free) in longer than I care to remember. As I mentioned in another post, I was disappointed that Robyn played only two new songs, but I was happy to hear really good versions (IMHO) of Clean Steve, Kingdom of Love, Lysander, Madonna, and Oceanside. I was spellbound (as usual) by his fingers dancing over his guitar...one of the four cones he drew now lives in my bedroom...and it was the first time I felt like Robyn was a friend, rather than some mysterious mystical figure. And though I've witnessed better RH performances, my overall concert going experience rather wonderful thank you very much. On to the information portion of this review. First some background about me and my Robyn connection. First song I ever heard - Kingdom of Love First album I bought - Fegmania First time I saw Robyn - 1984 in Toronto with The Egyptians (and every time since.) ....I finally got up the nerve to approach Robyn a few weeks after I had surgery #3 (for Crohn's disease - Inflammatory Bowel Disease) in 1993. Partly because of that conversation, partly 'cause I interviewed him for CBC radio in 1994, partly because he loves my hair (apparently Bob Dylan would be green with envy - Mr. Dylan please get better soon,) and partly 'cause I snuck out of the hospital in Oct '94 to see him play...when I walked into the "Magic Stick" in Detroit, I heard someone calling, "Randi! Randi! Randi Spiegel!" Robyn and Tim and Steve (manager) were just sitting down to dinner. After a round of questions from Robyn and Steve about surgery #8 (March '97 for Crohn's) I managed to get a few questions in edgewise. We also talked after the show, so here is a summary of info I think/hope everyone will enjoy. 1. Both Robyn and Steve kept asking me about the feg list...if I enjoyed it, what I posted about, what I liked reading about, and if I'd ever met anyone from the list. They were really interested in hearing about 'fegmaniax,' which I thought was great. They both claim to be computer illiterate: their biggest technological triumph was the purchase of a calculator for this tour. 2. Steve was curious as to how people discovered Robyn...so I'd be forever greatful to anyone who would like to e-mail me, and tell me about their first RH experience, their first album purchase, their first RH concert, and where they live. I'm hoping to put together a package to send to Steve around the end of June... 3. Robyn was exhausted in Detroit. He mentioned it to me, so did Steve, and it was evident in Robyn's lack of stage banter, which may have been a relief to some fegs, but I was disappointed, not nearly enough talking for my liking. Steve was really concerned about getting Robyn to bed after the show, so it seems he takes a fatherly attitude towards Robyn, and Robyn takes one towards Tim...hmmmm, what a big happy family. The boys were all excited because they were taking two days to drive from Minneapolis to Boulder. 4. I asked Steve if there was any life left in "Moss Elixir," he said no. The record didn't do as well as they had hoped and Robyn is _really_ disappointed about that. 5. When Robyn was touring with the Dear Janes he got to know Steve and his style of management and that was the catalyst for the 'breakup' with Peter Jenner/Sincere Management. 6. Steve will be cutting down on the amount of touring Robyn does. I asked Steve if he would have let this tour happen if he had been the manager at the time and he said "no." He won't let Robyn tour again without a reason, so we won't see RH again until the time when the film and soundtrack are released. Steve wants it to be more of an 'event' when Robyn tours, so that more people will come out to hear him play. Well, I hope I've made everyone feel like they were right there in Detroit with me, and I wish more fegs had been, though I most enjoyed meeting Mary and Beth (Beth: I lost your e-mail address so send me a note!) Thanks muchly to those who posted about Chicago and Minneapolis and Boulder...looking very forward to reading more reviews...and let me just say I love this list...I could gush about it (I did to Robyn and Steve) but I will restrain myself now...except to say I'm just so damn fond of you all :) Randi "You've got a cigarette and good breath? How long do you think those two are going to be compatible?" RH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:51:19 -0500 From: Hal Brandt CC: "Bonde M'Teko" Subject: Re: (1% RH) Musical Discovery Nick Winkworth wrote: > The CD > is just called "Dan Bern". It's on Sony/Work records. > > If you do (or already know Dan's work) let me know what you think. I second the recommendation of Dan Bern! As Nick said, the Bob Dylan vocal similarities are a bit off-putting at first, but then the songs take over and Dan's personality emerges. You'll be hooked! In addition to "Dan Bern", he also released an EP on Sony/Work called "Dog Boy Van". I saw him open for Ani DiFranco recently and he was great. Random film recommendation: THEREMIN (especially highly recommended for Beach Boys fans) ObRob content: I think Jay H. was right about Robyn currently perpetuating his art through touring. However, what if "merch" eventually takes over and provides the means to continue the cottage industry (a la Zappa)? Cones may be the beginning... I also feel "Jim" F. nailed it about on/off nights on stage. Robyn still shines more often than not, but I still wish he'd vary the setlist a lot more. His ouevre is massive! Plenty to choose from! -hal ------------------------------ Subject: Welcome Sydney! (Was Re: Marriage Proposal) Date: Thu, 29 May 97 15:31:30 -0000 From: The Great Quail Hello Sydney! I'm sorry it took me a few days to answer you in person, but being a chemistry teacher, my whole life right now is bent towards getting through the end of the year: finals to write and grade, reports, labs, make-up work, parent conferencing, la la la it's almost as stressful as when you're the student, going through it from the other end. At least I am on the other side of the red pen, heh heh. (Oooohhh . . . was that "dark sarcasm in the classroom?") Sydney writes: >I *knew* this was the right list... Jay, please tell me The Great Quail is >the chairman of the welcoming committee. :) No, I am terribly sorry, but I am not chairman of the welcoming committee. Our current chairman -- Debbie "Mao" Flosshilde -- is actually nowhere to be found, and no one has stepped up to fill her shoes yet. The last anyone heard from her was a final frantic email from Guam, containing only the cryptic message "Oh my God, it's full of bats." >Yes, I'm a newbie to this list, and to Robyn in general 'round the globe> and I'm looking forward to tapping your collective wisdom, >oh seasoned Fegs. Heh - or "taping" our collective wisdom, as the case may be. >So pleased to make your collective acquaintences, :) Welcome! I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that we are all glad to have a woman named after a city filled with platypi and wombats, and I feel I should mention that our only rule is no one can post more times a day than Susan. (And that's not even a rule, technically: more of a Natural Law of Physics, I fear.) >(who is searching for the coveted quail spirit amid the trial-size samples, >coupon books, and neighborhood maps of her "Welcome" package) Well, I understand that a wee Hedblade Familiar has taken up residence in your pocket - next to the wocket, near the heart, from what I understand - but if you are still interested in finding the little quail spirit, the best place to look is under the sink, in between the Ronco Inside the Eggshell Egg Scrambler and the Electric Hotdog Cooker. They like dark, nostalgic environments. Oh, yes. And furthermore, Susan writes: >As to your question, no, actually, the Great Quail is, rather, the head of >our Cult (you did accept the position, didn't you, Great One?). Of course >if he wishes to greet you as well, count yourself fortunate :). Well, you really don't need to feel any amount of fortune at my well-wishings, and I assure you I am NOT the head of any cult, this one or any other, ESPECIALLY not the notorious Gong FanWeb. These are all terrible lies, perpetrated by the mysterious Quails In Black. (pesky QIBs.) As far as I can tell, the true leader of the Cult of Feg is actually Woj's identical twin "Woj Sven-Woj", who is rumoured to take his instructions from the severed head of Andre Breton, which is kept in an underground vault by the Bethesda Masons, and guarded by several curious looking birds that *might* be quails, but at any rate look rather menacing even with those ludicrous feather-thingies on the tops of their heads. >Hey! I never got a "Welcome" package. No fair! And I suppose after having >been here for 2 years I am well past being eligible for one. Bummer. Don't worry, Susan - it may be best that way. I've only been on this list for under a year and I *still* haven't been able to pull the chambered nautilus from off my head. LittleJohn replies: (to the Quail being the Head of the Cult): >Now castrate yourself and wait for the mothership. EEEEKK!!! I ASSURE you, that if I ever were the head of a cult (which, of course, I am not - and I mean that in the strictest possible sense of the word "not," unlike say, "Oh, Black Adder, are *you* the Scarlet Pimpernel?" to which "I am most certainly NOT" is the provocative reply) the last thing I would ever have anyone do is (eeeek) *castrate* themselves! My Epicurean soul shrivels (Just your soul, oh gentle quail?) at the mere thought. And besides: what would Susan think of us then? The Quail (The quail has told me to tell you that he is starting to finally get the hand of writing in the forth person.) PS: My little kick for the day? Playing Julian Cope and Syd Barret during my chem class' final lab experiment. You haven't lived until you've watched twenty teenagers perform a distillation to "Effervescing Elephant." ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .