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Re: Fandom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:11:00 -0400 From: WISNIEWSKI Subject: The meaning of triangles -- Kay Lord Wisniewski Wis@Worldnet.Att.Net Im afraid Ive been a busy git recently, and only got to read thru the sacred scrolls because of a very rainy sunday. My over-all respons to the last 2 weeks worth of messages is: Susan, what did he smell like.? Dont give a real damn bout what he looked like, its what does he smell like ? MMmmmmm.... Clapton, tee shirts and God--- Religion, in my never humble opinion, exists for man, not God or the void or Buddha or whatever. Religion exists to give meaning to our lives. It allows as, as an Eye-talian poet from the 15th century(actually the hooked-nosed excitable boy was from the 14th century--but who am I to argue with a rock n roll god?)put it--to order our loves. Other things can do this as well, but religion excells. We used to get religion at birth, like a name. Now we dont. We have to go dig out our meaning. A bunch of baby-boomers, in the euphoria of that mythical era known as the 60s(the fall ,aka November, didnt happen till 1974), thought that music could fufill the need for meaning left by religions official(unofficially, it was doing fine) demise. Hence clapton is God. Which wasnt true, tho Clapton was god(rock n roll being polytheistic). this, along with the gods general intrest in herion, money and exploitation of their fans helped lead to a whole generation loosing their way , circa the infamous 1974. Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll do not a meaningfull life make, as many initiates found out. I always thought that the Robyn is god publicity campaign was a comment on this earlier fall. Robyn, like R>E>M> and the Mats, owed half their charm to their rejection of the whole Rawk God cult. So Clapton and the stones still exist to sell tee-shirts and exploit their fans, while, ironically, someone like Robyn, actually can help add meaning to life--by his songwriting. If someone can start figuring out how to interpret Robyns songs, how to connect symbols and meaning and feelings, they can do the same thing with their own life. Its funny, while I know robyn aint no Christian(to state it mildly), I respect him greatly for having a component, a place in his songs, for that part of us(read soul) which touches and is touched by the Spirit(aka whatever you want to call it). Robyns the finger(to cliche) pointing at the moon. In case anyones still reading, I have a question. I know that Robyns mother was from a Friends family. Does anyone know if she attended meaning(oops--I really ment to type Meeting). Did she bring Robyn? Was Robyn raised as a Friend, waiting on the Spirit? Did he go to a Friends school?. I would like to hear that he did, since 2 out of my 3 best friends here in this hotbed of Friends(Philadelphia)) are from historically(as in the last 300 years or so) Friends familys, , went to Friends schools, and are way way cool. Also--O Great Quail--will you marry me? I know Ive asked Doug before, and I do have a real husband, and a best male friend(one of those Friends I mentioned--I tell you--there is nothing, absolutely nothing, on this planet as good as a good Friends boy gone bad), and of course Id propose to Robyn if I had the chance and the nerve, but Ive alsways longed for a harem, so please great Quail--would you join? You actually seem to know as much exoteric crap as I do. K, whose aim is not to listen to a Dylan song as if it were the Bible, but to read the Bible as if it were a Dylan song. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:13:56 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Virtual Cone Museum On Sat, 24 May 1997, Runion, Michael R. wrote: > Hmmm. I know absolutely nothing about copyright law, but it seems to me > that if Robyn drew each cone separately, on his own sittin' in the tour bus > or whatever, and then sold them to people...it's just hard for me to imagine > someone/anyone being able to tell me what to do with said artwork that I > myself purchased. Any lawyers out there? I'm not a lawyer, but I assure you that when you buy a piece of artwork you buy the piece itself, not the copyright; and it's the owner of the copyright, not of the manuscript, the recording, or the cone itself that can negotiate how the work can be reproduced. There's a copyright FAQ posted regularly to alt.answers, and it's as good a starting place as any for those who want to know more. Tracy ObTheShining: in the Kubrick film the cook compares the evil permeating the hotel to the smell of burnt toast. ------------------------------ From: "Charles Gillett" Subject: Re: Blabblab Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 17:57:24 On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: >Charles wrote: >>Robyn was quite talkative.... > >So what is new? ;) I mentioned his talkativeness because at his last MN show he wasn't very talkative at all and seemed somewhat surly. >I tell ya, I'm utterly sick of the contrived off-the-wall ramblings >between songs. Why can't he tell us something REAL about the song to >come, rather than just showing off how eccentric/whimsical/tangential >he is? I think that's just the way he is. Would you like it if you were just doing your thing and someone came up to you and said, "Hey, buddy, give it a rest--we're sick of your old schtick" or something like that? *8^> -- Charles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 16:43:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Blabblab Charles wrote: >Would you like it if you were >just doing your thing and someone came up to you and said, "Hey, buddy, >give it a rest--we're sick of your old schtick" or something like that? Of course I wouldn't. But Robyn opens himself to such comments by being a public artist. Comes with the territory. Just as he must submit to blathering idolatry/panty-flinging on the other end of the spectrum. ;) Bayard wrote: >you'll never know unless you go... IMHO a robyn show with a silent robyn >btw songs would be no robyn show at all, impersonal and almost scary... >one might as well go see Tom Petty. Just remember, he still talks just a >fraction as much as Billy Bragg or Dick Dale. I saw the Billy Bragg/Robyn Hitchcock bill last year. Yes, Billy talks more, but he talks more than ANYONE. And I disliked Billy's "schtick" a lot more. I never have claimed to be a big Bragg fan (though Back To Basics is an excellent piece of work). I don't want Hitchcock to be SILENT -- I just want him to quit reciting these carefully crafted "spontaneous" monologues from show to show. They ring extremely hollow to me for the most part, and only serve to fuel his (supposedly unwanted?) "eccentric" image. Also, I want him to quit playing "The Wind Cries Mary." Get it out of your system already, darn it! Eb, who thinks there are lots worse things in this world than Tom Petty and who coincidentally just got the new Are You Experienced? reissue ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 16:44:44 -0700 From: "Mark \"the rubber chicken of love\" Gloster" Subject: re: Blabblab I've probably heard nearly every one of Robyn's songs. I love to hear them again and again, but I go to his concerts for something more, and his wacky between song tales really help me want to come back each time he makes it to my little dot on the map. If someone has to blabblab, I'd like them to do it like Robyn. He keeps a good music/blab ratio going for those who don't like one or the other. BTW, Mick just asked me to go bungee jumping with him. I think I'll pass. -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 20:09:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Blabblab On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: > Of course I wouldn't. But Robyn opens himself to such comments by being a > public artist. Comes with the territory. Just as he must submit to > blathering idolatry/panty-flinging on the other end of the spectrum. ;) For the record, I have never flung panties at -anyone-! :) You know what, Eric? I get the distinct impression that you think that there has been too much worship around here lately, and you'd like to take us all down a peg :). Either that or you want to take away my status as provocateur, which I will -not- have :). I love Robyn's stories. I don't give a flying fuck if they're not "spontaneous" or even if he repeats them, since I'm not going to every single show on the tour and consequently won't have a chance to het bored with them :). They're part of the performance, and as such, it's not a crime if he rehearses them. He rehearses the -songs-, doesn't he? > ring extremely hollow to me for the most part, and only serve to fuel his And you would have him say something "real". Like what? His views on animal rights? His feelings for his girlfriend? His feelings about air travel versus auto travel? I don't really think that would be appropriate, and furthermore, I bet you'd flay him alive with your critical whip for doing -that- too. Lay off. Love on ya, Susan Who was it on this list that recommended "The Greatest Living Englishman"? I picked it up yesterday and I really like it a lot. Could you tell me some more about this Newell character? ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 18:40:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Blabblab >Either that or you want to take away my status as >provocateur, which I will -not- have :). Eek. OK, continue to revel in being the list's carrot-on-a-stick femme fatale. I think it's a bit sick, but don't let me stop you. ;P >And you would have him say something "real". Like what? His views on >animal rights? His feelings for his girlfriend? His feelings about air >travel versus auto travel? I don't really think that would be appropriate, >and furthermore, I bet you'd flay him alive with your critical whip for >doing -that- too. Lay off. Oh, take a breath already. Barbra Streisand uses long, scripted introductions to her onstage songs. I'd just rather not see Robyn put himself in the same boat. I wouldn't even care if the bits were scripted, as long as they communicated something beyond "Lookie, I'm wacky 'n' witty." When I saw Hitchcock last year, his comments before "1974" were very interesting -- about 1974 being the final death blow to '60s idealism and all. The rest of the "stories," you can have. He shouldn't feel like he HAS to supply a bunch of offbeat spew between songs -- apparently he does. If he held it down to just a couple of monologues, it would be much more resonant, less grating and less forced. Eb, bummed because Brainiac's Timmy Taylor apparently died in a car wreck over the weekend ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 21:21:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: RE: Captain Beefheart connection > I'm trying not to sound like someone who writes dictionaries for a > living(*), but if you look at the context, it's clear that Robyn sings: > > ... but Soft Boys end up with a Dr. Messerschmidt > He just-a 109's 'em ... That's what -I- think it is. I am glad that dictionary authority is behind me! :) Actually, I think writing dictionaries for a living sounds like great fun. But everyone knows I'm weird..... Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 21:45:26 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: words and laws On Sun, 25 May 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > Actually, I think writing dictionaries for a living sounds like great fun. > But everyone knows I'm weird..... During the daily bit o' dictionary reading I came across "artefact" as an optional spelling. See Robyn ain't so weird after all. As for the cones page, my guess is that it would be pretty safe. Familiar symbols or designs and mere variations of typographic ornamentation are not eligible for copyright. Whether the "artwork" on the cones exceeds this limitation is the question. Anyway, I doubt that anyone would refuse their own self-promotion. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 22:03:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: words and laws On Sun, 25 May 1997, donald andrew snyder wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > > Actually, I think writing dictionaries for a living sounds like great fun. > > But everyone knows I'm weird..... > During the daily bit o' dictionary reading I came across "artefact" as an > optional spelling. See Robyn ain't so weird after all. I just checked the nifty online OED we get to use here at UoC, and it gave "artefact" as the -primary- spelling. When I did a search for "artifact", it told me "see artefact". Is this one of those things that's spelled differently in England? Love on ya, Susan who tries to learn something new every day :) ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 22:04:05 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Blabblab On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: > Barbra Streisand uses long, scripted > introductions to her onstage songs. I'd just rather not see Robyn put > himself in the same boat. I wouldn't even care if the bits were scripted, > as long as they communicated something beyond "Lookie, I'm wacky 'n' witty." > What she said. When I first got to know Hitchcock's music he either wasn't repeating himself from show to show, or wasn't repeating himself as much. I thought the stories and banter were sort of the verbal equivalent of a light show - fun and impressive while it's happening, and fairly forgettable afterwards. When I got hold of some concert tapes and had the chance to listen to the monologues more than once I found that most of them just didn't hold up to multiple listenings. It was always impressive to hear these intricate, unpredictable stories when you didn't know how they were going to turn out, had the feeling Hitchcock didn't know either, and yet by the end they'd been bent into something that was recognizably a narrative (well, sometimes.) During the more recent tours, though, Hitchcock seems to be writing his material ahead of time and doing the same stories at every stop. But they're no better than the ones he was making up as he went along, and they don't have the spontaneous charm of the older ones. It's like "Cherry Red Daughter", the song he improvised in Ann Arbor a couple of years back - it was fun while it was happening, but would you have rather heard him play the same thing the same way at a different show, or a new improvised song, or one he'd actually put some work into? Tracy "And to this end, Mistress ..." Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re:Reeeeelly off the wall question >Do any of you kooks remember the EXACT name of the '70s Saturday-morning >cartoon show which featured the Partridge Family in outer space? One of my reference books says it was called The Partridge Family 2200 A.D. Please don't ask why I would have a reference book with this type of info. ;) Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:57:34 +1300 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: irrelevant post #377 Useless information of the week: Ambient merchant Aphex Twin has recently released a CD "The Aphex singles", collecting together three of his EPs. The last track is "Respect List". So what? Well, it's an odd coincidence that one of the earlier tracks is called "73 yips". >http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/cone34.htm (Click on the earth at the bottom to go elsewhere...) Click your ruby slippers and wind up in Kansas...! James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:40:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Blabblab On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: > Eek. OK, continue to revel in being the list's carrot-on-a-stick I'd rather be the list's cherry popsicle, if that's ok :). > femme > fatale. I think it's a bit sick, but don't let me stop you. ;P Did anyone ever tell you to lighten up? I suspect they have, but if not, let me have the privilege of being the first :) :). > Oh, take a breath already. Barbra Streisand uses long, scripted > introductions to her onstage songs. Are they about frozen shards of pig? I've got to start checking her out then :). >I'd just rather not see Robyn put > himself in the same boat. No, I wouldn't either. I'd rather he put himself in a boat with -me-. > I wouldn't even care if the bits were scripted, > as long as they communicated something beyond "Lookie, I'm wacky 'n' witty." But may I venture to suggest that he -is- in fact witty? I find the stories amusing, myself. There actually weren't that many at the Chicago show, and they were new to my ears, and I greatly enjoyed them. So put that in your pipe and smoke it! :) Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:34:24 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: RE: Captain Beefheart connection >> I'm trying not to sound like someone who writes dictionaries for a >> living(*), but if you look at the context, it's clear that Robyn sings: >> >> ... but Soft Boys end up with a Dr. Messerschmidt >> He just-a 109's 'em ... I always thought he said "It's just a 109 zone..." My question is what does 109 have to do with anything? LSDiamond, razorburn inflictor on bands from Sweden ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last updated 17 May 1997 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 me dad just lost our bookmark file. if i need to have your URL, please send it to me! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:50:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: RE: Captain Beefheart connection On Sun, 25 May 1997, LSDiamond wrote: > >> ... but Soft Boys end up with a Dr. Messerschmidt > >> He just-a 109's 'em ... > > I always thought he said "It's just a 109 zone..." My question is > what does 109 have to do with anything? As far as I know, a Messerschmidt 109 is a German warplane. So I guess that doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of "109 zone", but to me "109's 'em" makes more sense with the rest of the lyrics (I wanna destroy you, indeed! :)). > LSDiamond, razorburn inflictor on bands from Sweden Can we start a club? I want to inflict harm on all bands from Sweden too! They are an evil blot upon society :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:52:26 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: RE: Captain Beefheart connection >> >> ... but Soft Boys end up with a Dr. Messerschmidt >> >> He just-a 109's 'em ... >> >> I always thought he said "It's just a 109 zone..." My question is >> what does 109 have to do with anything? > >As far as I know, a Messerschmidt 109 is a German warplane. So I guess >that doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of "109 zone", but to >me "109's 'em" makes more sense with the rest of the lyrics (I wanna >destroy you, indeed! :)). > >> LSDiamond, razorburn inflictor on bands from Sweden > >Can we start a club? I want to inflict harm on all bands from Sweden too! >They are an evil blot upon society :). Okay.. so we start the 109 Club where we fly over Sweden in Messerschmidts playing "I Wanna Destroy You" at all their evil bands in an effort to stop their wicked ways! heh heh heh.. LSDiamond, lover of British men.. (oh what the heck, Australian, too.. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last updated 17 May 1997 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 me dad just lost our bookmark file. if i need to have your URL, please send it to me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:01:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: The meaning of triangles On Sun, 25 May 1997, WISNIEWSKI wrote: > Susan, what did he smell like.? Sweat, I'm afraid. Not that that's a problem..... > Dont give a real damn bout what he looked like, its what does he smell > like ? MMmmmmm.... I'm not going to go on and on about it. This is a fan list, I know, but really now, I think I've been a bit -too- hormonal recently and it's time to take a deep breath and get ahold of myself! :) Do you know I actually had half a mind to take Robyn's beer cup? G-Sus! Sometimes I worry! > century(actually the hooked-nosed excitable boy was from the 14th > century- I believe the other Uncle Bob corrected that mistake in later versions of the song :). > helped lead to a whole generation loosing their way , circa the infamous > 1974. Sex, drugs and Rock n Roll do not a meaningfull life make, as > many initiates found out. Uh oh. Maybe I need to look into something else, then! :) :) > I always thought that the Robyn is god publicity campaign was a comment > on this earlier fall. Robyn, like R>E>M> and the Mats, owed half their > charm to their rejection of the whole Rawk God cult. Yup. What Kay said. > So Clapton and the stones still exist to sell tee-shirts and exploit > their fans, while, ironically, someone like Robyn, actually can help > add meaning to life--by his songwriting. If someone can start > figuring out how to interpret Robyns songs, how to connect symbols and > meaning and feelings, they can do the same thing with their own life. What Kay said again. I think it's worth reading more than once :). > planet as good as a good Friends boy gone bad), and of course Id > propose to Robyn if I had the chance and the nerve, but Ive alsways > longed for a harem, Me too! The thing about Robyn is that of course we would have to work out some sort of timeshare. Like with vacation condos in Mexico :). > so please great Quail--would you join? You > actually seem to know as much exoteric crap as I do. You must have been looking at his website. Lots of interesting stuff over there :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:21:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: One more Wednesday night On Sat, 24 May 1997, J. B. Renoir wrote: Another punning bluesman nickname. Is this going to become a trend? :) > _really_ bad news is that that meant that I knew before the show began > that Robyn > wasn't going to do "Dead Wife". You didn't -have- to peek, you know :). Jay and I were talking about this before the show, about how some people peeked at their Christmas presents and some people did not. Actually, I was one of the ones who always did. But this time I opted not to know. > Acoustic: > > Gene Hackman > Cynthia Mask > 1974 > ["I saw Hendrix live the last time Jimi played in England. I saw a tape > of > it recently; Hendrix played like an animal; the original 12 bar blues > tune > disappeared completely beneath Jimi's wailings."] There was something before this about smoking a rollup cigarette ("and that's -all- I was smoking"). > Airscape Ok, once again, I'm asking about this comment Robyn made between these two songs, "Airscape" and "Freeze". Does -anyone- know what this might mean? Repeated for your convenience: "Two years later, blood spilled on the floor, nice one". A reference to his difficulties with A&M a couple years after "Element"? > Freeze > Heliotrope [??] He did not play "Heliotrope". It should be mentioned that the following songs were part of the encore. This is when Robyn came out in the white polka-dot shirt. > ["This is a song about my mother:"] > > I Often Dream of Trains Tim came in after this. I -think- he was just there for "Oceanside". > ["This is where I want to be buried:"] > > Oceanside > Queen of Eyes > Beautiful Queen > > I see that my list differs from Hal's in two respects: We have Cynthia > and Mary > reversed, I think you're right. "Cynthia Mask" came before "Mary" as far as I remember. > and he has no Heliotrope. He must have just opted to skip it for some reason. > dozen listenings or so. He also remarked that he wished he had the > luxury of > sitting on material for five years before deciding what was the best of > it, but that, > unlike Peter Gabriel, he wasn't that rich. He also mentioned Bryan Ferry in this context, stating also that he didn't really -want- to sit and fiddle with stuff in the studio for years and years like those two. > He also said that he doesn't plan to get involved personally with the > Internet, > because (while he doesn't mind his fan element here) he intends to make > his decisions > on albums and such on his own. The context should be mentioned here. Someone (Hal, I think), brought up Todd Rundgren's song subscription list, where you pay a certain fee, get to listen to/comment on song samples, and eventually receive the completed CD. This must have been later in the conversation, as I remember Tim being there for this and his eyes getting quite wide (I believe he also said "Good God!" :)). > hoping to see on CD, he doesn't care that much for Portland Arms ("It was > just a > live set by some young guys at Cambridge"), so he's not anxious to see it > re-released; Didn't he make some remark to the effect of "at best, it's a clever record for clever people"? > Last memory: He started the show with a cotton shirt and vest, then > switched to the polka dots. After the show, he was back in the original > garb. When he came on stage originally to introduce Tim he was wearing one of those very Beatle-esque jackets (what're they called?), long and with a sort of rounded collar. > Whelp, that's all I can dredge up. Is someone collecting our collective > recollections somewhere? Well, I suppose all this will be in the archives. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" Subject: Re: Lyrics: Jewels For Sophia Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 01:30:34 -0400 Probably the most sexually explicit song I have heard by anyone, let alone by Robyn, is Happy the Golden Prince. A very thinly vieled description of a penis losing its virginity as far as I can make out. Damn funny as well, with some stately, pseudo-psychelic guitar helping to make it more than just a vivid, funny poem. As much as I like it, I'm glad it is not one of the original ten songs on BSDR, as was originally proposed. It wouldn't have quite been up to the standard of the rest which make up an album which showed Robyn at the peak of his writing and performing powers, IMHO! Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 22:33:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Sweden >Can we start a club? I want to inflict harm on all bands from Sweden too! >They are an evil blot upon society :). > >Love on ya, >Susan The Cardigans bore me silly, but I think Komeda is coooooooooool. :) Eb, whose mommy was born in Stockholm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:45:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: RE: Sweden On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: > >Can we start a club? I want to inflict harm on all bands from Sweden too! > >They are an evil blot upon society :). > > > >Love on ya, > >Susan > > The Cardigans bore me silly, but I think Komeda is coooooooooool. :) I think LSD and I were thinking of the evil ABBA. Compared to ABBA, I suppose the others are relatively harmless. Key word: relatively. I was not implying that I had anything nice to say about Roxette or Ace of Base. Maybe we could fly over Norway and destroy Aha too while we're at it! Sounds like a plan. Also a good warmup for my -real- project, which is the total destruction of all television sets. Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:49:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Happy the Golden Prince (was Jewels for Sophia) On Mon, 26 May 1997, Baker, David(KWI-C09) wrote: > Probably the most sexually explicit song I have heard by anyone, let alone > by Robyn, is Happy the Golden Prince. (description deleted) Well, that alone means I really want to hear this. Where might one find a copy? Love on ya, Susan hippie dissident intellectual pervert at large ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 02:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Roger Anyone have a tape/etc. which has a recording of Roger Jackson's voice? I wanna figure out who did what on The Can Opener, and I know that Morris is hte high one, Andy is the low one, RObyn is Robyn... But I gotta figure out what Roger sounds like. Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 02:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fandom After reading various letters from the females of this list and of the Pet Sounds list, I've decided that I'm going about appreciating music in the entirely wrong way. I've liked it for the music. What I'd like to start doing is appreciating the music by cultivating lust for the performer. My main problem is that I can't figure out who...I'm a guy, so that takes out nearly 90% of the music community...The Spice Girls scare me. I've started to appreciate Tanya Donnelly professionally, so that won't do. Kim Deal doesn't impress me. The girls from Abba don't have what it takes. (Likewise w/ Yoko Ono and the B-52s) So....who? (This is meant as a semiserious question, not a backhanded insult or suchlike) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:40:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fandom >After reading various letters from the females of this list and of the Pet >Sounds list, I've decided that I'm going about appreciating music in the >entirely wrong way. Explain. What is the Pet Sounds list? Beach Boys in general, or more specific than that? And how does female lust figure into that? SURELY there aren't women lusting after Mike Love, are there?????? >What I'd like to start doing is appreciating the music by cultivating lust >for the performer. My main problem is that I can't figure out who...I'm a >guy, so that takes out nearly 90% of the music community...The Spice Girls >scare me. I've started to appreciate Tanya Donnelly professionally, so >that won't do. Kim Deal doesn't impress me. The girls from Abba don't >have what it takes. (Likewise w/ Yoko Ono and the B-52s) >So....who? I had a bit of a thing for Velocity Girl's Sarah Shannon, but then she went Melrose Place on me. And THEN the band broke up. No one else really comes to mind, actually. The Muffs' Kim Shattuck is kinda sexy, but only in sort of a dirty bad-girl way.... I don't know who else to suggest. Liz Phair does ZILCH for me (physically). I thought the violinist for the Geraldine Fibbers was absolutely STUNNING, but then she left the band. Sheesh, I'm jinxed. Too damn single, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:06:52 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth CC: fegmaniax@ecto.org Subject: Re: trying to talk to a gramophone Eddie Tews wrote: > this so-called streaming technology ..[snip].. the masses could point > their browsers at the Centre and listen to any concert they wanted to. > is this possible? There's a big difference between "possible" and "practical". It could be done in theory, but would require the work of armies of woj clones to administer - not to mention the cost of all that storage and CPU-power. > is it legal? Ah. There's the rub. > the cone museum is a splendid little idea! Yessir! > am definitely going to the mill valley and sacramento shows. nobody > wants to go with me, huh? it's ok. Your best bet if you want to meet feg-folk is to come to the SF show on the 4th. It may not be the most romantic location, but it is at least central and accessible. Plus I imagine there will be some kind of pre/post show gathering organized. One of us will probably post details of whatever that is to the list closer to the date. Not sure whether I'll be able to make it to the Mill Valley show as well, but I have no doubt that any of the SF set who can, will. ~N ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 03:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fandom > Explain. What is the Pet Sounds list? Beach Boys in general, or more > specific than that? And how does female lust figure into that? SURELY there > aren't women lusting after Mike Love, are there?????? No. Rule 1 of THe Beach Boys is "No-one likes Mike Love". Similar rules apply for Dr. Eugene Landy and Murry Wilson. Basically, they';re lusting after Denny Wilson. (Yes. He's dead. But they still won't stop talking about how cute he was when he was alive.) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:26:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fandom >No. Rule 1 of THe Beach Boys is "No-one likes Mike Love". >Similar rules apply for Dr. Eugene Landy and Murry Wilson. Aha. Why couldn't Mike Love had died instead of Timmy Taylor? This thought actually occured to me earlier today! :) I had this weird-ass Beach Boys dream once. I was stopped at a traffic light, and looked to my left and Mike Love was driving the adjacent car. I gasped, and followed him. He turned left shortly, and winded up into the hills on a long Bel Air-type road. Finally, we got to this huge estate...sort of The Beach Boys Mansion. I parked and snuck in the gate, and there was a huge house with this wide flat "lake area" in front. There was a big manmade pond/lake with water jets shooting up/around out of it, and all the Beach Boys were sort of standing and talking around the lake, chatting like at a cocktail party or something. It was so idyllic -- such a contrast to the way things really are. :) >Basically, they';re lusting after Denny Wilson. (Yes. He's dead. But >they still won't stop talking about how cute he was when he was alive.) Now THAT is sick. Eb ------------------------------ Subject: Ack! From: guambat@juno.com (Metabolic Toad) Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 03:44:49 EDT Checked email.... 37 posts in 5 hours! I was excited until I started reading them. Come on folks, this is starting to sound like one of those "other" fan-lists. :) Guambat, ducking the flames, and saying, "have a heart, fegsters--I'm not fireproof!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:07:39 +0200 (METDST) From: James Isaacs Subject: Re: Fandom On Sun, 25 May 1997, Eb wrote: > >After reading various letters from the females of this list and of the Pet > >Sounds list, I've decided that I'm going about appreciating music in the > >entirely wrong way. > > Explain. What is the Pet Sounds list? Beach Boys in general, or more > specific than that? And how does female lust figure into that? SURELY there > aren't women lusting after Mike Love, are there?????? > > >What I'd like to start doing is appreciating the music by cultivating lust > >for the performer. My main problem is that I can't figure out who...I'm a > >guy, so that takes out nearly 90% of the music community...The Spice Girls > >scare me. I've started to appreciate Tanya Donnelly professionally, so > >that won't do. Kim Deal doesn't impress me. The girls from Abba don't > >have what it takes. (Likewise w/ Yoko Ono and the B-52s) > >So....who? Polly Harvey. Ms. Harvey EXUDES sex. Constant, guilt-free, sex. And, she likes the Captain, too. What more could a guy want? James ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .