From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #97 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 97 Tuesday May 13 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Bubblegum Re: Meet me in Detroit??? Re: Bubblegum (no Sonic Youth content) portland arms antwoman e-mailshot E&B 5, RH 0. Echo meets Tranmere Rovers in the quarter-finals Re: Ro:byn in the My Area Re: robyn involved in syd film project Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh Re: Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Superkeen info? Re: Queen Elvis CD, & The Can Opener Re: Child of the Universe Re: Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh "World Cafe" dilemma Re: Heroes and Villains/Box Set He Was Talking Through a Bimbo Re: Limbaugh (RH content 2%) Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Re: Superkeen info? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:49:09 -0400 From: wpb9826@is2.nyu.edu (Pete Bilderback) Subject: Bubblegum Couldn't resist commenting on this since I'm a big fan of the genre. . . The last Goldmine (April 25) had a big article (cover story actually) that attempted to define "bubblegum", along with a short discography. The author of the article made the arguement that Monkees were a kind of border case, in that they actually played their own instruments (eventually), whereas The Archies, 1910 Fruitgum Company, Ohio Express etc. were "pure" bubblegum because they were essentially a producer's creation. The Archies were kind of the ultimate example, because they were producer Don Kirshner's creation after the Monkees got all uppity and decided they wanted to play and write (and refused to record "Sugar Sugar")--it was a lot easier keeping cartoons in line than people. The author then went on to talk about recent bubblegum influenced music like Redd Kross, The Pooh Sticks etc. IMO a lot of the disposable bubblegum music of the 60s holds up a lot better than much of the "serious" music of the day (although I won't site any examples since I'm not in the mood for hate mail today!). One thing I really like about bubblegum music is the way in which children's games or rhymes frequently get turned into sexual double-entendres ("Simon Says", "May I (Take a Giant Step Into Your Heart)"), and food gets sexualized in a way in which I think Robyn would approve of ("Chewy, Chewy", "Yummy Yummy Yummy"). Now if I could just find a copy of that Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution album . . . Pete ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Meet me in Detroit??? Fegs, Upon sending the info about the Robyn / Rugburns gig in the city of 'Troit to a friend, this reply came back. You'd have to know the Rugburns to really get it, but the last line is beautiful! The 'Burns are old friends of that evil wench Jewel ("Who Will Save Your Soul"). Anyway, in the recent Rolling Stone with Jewel on the cover, Steve Pultz, lead singer of the Rugburns, has a quote about how Jewel though "Drive My Car" was by The Rolling Stones! Read on. << My car phone's on the pill and the Devil's in my scramble; What I wouldn't give to be there...Perhaps I'll take a gamble; My sinister side says "Fuck it...I'll pack my bags today." I can't wait to see the Queen puke burritos from Circle K. Or couldn't we call this pairing "The Clever" and "The Crude"? Would not Robyn's Royalty find Dick a tad-bit rude? We all were fond of Mucky the Pig, but now our hearts are achin' Cuz John picked up his chainsaw, and now we're eatin' bacon. Just one last snide comment, and I'll leave well enough alone; Thank God Robyn Hitchcock can tell a Beatle from a Stone... :)>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:19:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Bubblegum (no Sonic Youth content) On Mon, 12 May 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Mississippi Malcolm McDowell wrote: > No I'm sorry, Mickie Most is the really serious record producer who came > up with 'For Miss Caulker' and loads of other great Animals tracks, and > 'Hampstead Incident' plus stacks of other Donovan Leitch classics. I knew that would get a rise out of ya! You did notice the smiley face at the end, didn't you? :) > Right > up there with that guy who did the Kinks and the Sorrows, Shel Talmy Don't forget "Can't Explain". Love on ya, Susan currently engaged in trying to convince herself that dropping 19 bucks on a Pulp bootleg today actually -was- a really good idea :) ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:17:55 -0700 Subject: portland arms actually, this has nothing to do with the portland arms show. here's what i meant by worse: o.k., it would have been bad enough receiving so few lists if the movies were so-so, or downright crappy. but the movies are so great, that it's ESPECIALLY agonizing that so few have come in. actually, i've got 29 now. and yes, how 'bout if we set a deadline. let's say May 31. then i'll start doing the final tabs on June 1st, which is the same day that i will once again undertake the journey of listening to all my cd's in alphabetical order. for those, like Matthew Valenta, who don't get return addresses with their mail, or for those who haven't heard yet, send a list of your ten favorite movies of all time to: tews@vcommons.com also, i'll put up a list of all the entries received tomorrow. then, if you sent yours, but i didn't get it somehow, we'll be able to work it out. i thought the purpose of the rubber grating in the urinals was to prevent the cakes from slipping into the hole when they got small enough to do so, and causing an overflow. that would be those cakes that don't come in their own plastic cage. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:20:00 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: antwoman e-mailshot in case some of you haven't written antwoman yet, this is the note she is sending out: >Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:40:45 +0100 >To: mr bean jeans >From: antwoman@lloyd.ftech.co.uk (Antwoman) >Subject: Robyn uppitydate > >Hello Antwomanite, >Thanks for your email. As you may have gathered, Robyn has changed managers, >and in that, he is starting a new and improved info, mail order and possibly >a fan club service. We are starting this completely fresh as it will be a >while before we have all of the files and correspondence through from Mrs. >Wafflehead. If you got caught in the web of it, we apologise. This email >address is temporary (hopefully until the end of August) at which time we >may get one especially for Robyn / Antwoman, but we won't know until closer >to the time. It may go back to snail mail at the time, so be forewarned. At >the end of this potentially longwinded email is a form for you to please >fill out and email back to me so I have the info I need to start the new >lists. Some of you have already let me know most of the things on it, but it >will make me life that tad easier by having it all nice and neat on a page. >. . Thanks for your time in filling that out. > >In the meantime, this is what we know, and I will be doing updates as they >come in, on a weekly basis if relevant, so if you don't here from me it's >because there is nothing new to relay. Thanks for your patience. > >OLD AND NEW NEWS: >Robyn is doing a three week tour of the US, the 'second foot' of the tour he >did in March of the east and south. This tour is of the midwest and west >coast (see dates below). Support on all gigs is Tim Keegan (Homer) whose >band played on a few tracks on Moss Elixir and Mossy Liquor. He will also >play some songs with Robyn. Storefront Hitchcock, the film of Robyn playing >live in a, er, NY storefront, and which was directed by Jonathan Demme, is >tentatively scheduled to be distributed by Orion to cinemas in Feb '98. It's >hopeful it will premiere at either Venice in August or Sundance in January >(also playing in some songs in the movie are Deni Bonet an, er, Tim). >Warner's will release a soundtrack album to coincide with the release of the >movie, but the tracks are undecided at the moment. In the US, Warner >Brother's is promoting Beautiful Queen to radio. This CD has B-sides of the >'Dylan Bootleg' gig that Robyn did with Homer last year on Bob's 'electric' >anniversary. At this moment, it doesn't seem it will be in the shops. I'll >find out more about that soon. Robyn is suppose to be doing some radio shows >for the US dates, but I haven't gotten the list through from Warners, so I >reckon those livning locally to the gigs should just keep their ears open. >And for collectors, Robyn sings on a track on the new Homer single. For more >information go to http://www.foresight.co.uk/homer > >LIVE US DATES: >Wed 21 May, Chicago, House Of Blues >Thur 22 May, Detroit, Magic Stick (Majestic) >Fri 23 May, Milwaukee, Shank Hall >Sat 24 May, Minneapolis, Cedar Cultural Center >Tue 27 May, Boulder, Fox Theatre >Thur 29 May, San Diego, Brick By Brick >Fri 30 May, LA (off, but possible 'secret' gig, keep your ears to the floor) >Sat 31 May, LA, Roxy >Mon 2 June, Mill Valley (CA), Sweetwater Cafe >Tues 3 June, Sacramento, Melarkey's >Wed 4 June, SF, Great American Music Hall >Thu, 5 June, Eugene, OR, Wow Hall >Fri, 6 June, Portland, OR, Aladdin Theatre >Sat 7 June, Seattle, WA, Backstage >Fri 13 June, Seattle, Viva Sea-Tac 2 (Robyn, Tim and Young Fresh Fellows and >others gather for an evening of fun and frolic) > >LIVE UK DATE in JULY: >each Wednesday at the 12 Bar, Denmark Street, London >(support from The Dear Janes, except 16th support from Tim Keegan & Homer) >17th, Cambridge, Boat Race >27th, Womad Festival > >We are putting a fancy newsletter together when Robyn is back from the >states, so it is recommended that anyone who wants to receive one sends in a >self addressed stamped envelope (UK) or an IRC (from outside the UK) to >Antwoman (newsletter), PO Box 14864, London, W4 2GD ENGLAND. > >Ciao for now. >ANTWOMAN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please put me on the Antwoman email / mailing list. > >DATE: >FIRST NAME: >LAST NAME: >ADDRESS: >CITY: >STATE/CO: >POST/ZIP CODE: >COUNTRY: >TELEPHONE: >FAX: >EMAIL: > > >I am interested in receiving the new and improved merchandising list (yes or >no): >I would be interested in joining a Robyn fan club if he had one (yes or no): >You may find my name on the Mrs. Wafflehead mailing list (yes or no): >I signed up at a gig (yes or no): where: >about when: >I sent a letter asking to be on the list (yes or no): >about when: >I am a completely new person you will never have heard from before(yes or no): > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:50:19 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: E&B 5, RH 0. Echo meets Tranmere Rovers in the quarter-finals >I am seeing the rechristened Echo and the Bunnymen at a festival during my >Chicago visit, and I sincerely hope that the partnership regains some of its >skill and touch by adopting the old moniker. Does the name change mean that >mean that Les Pattinson's on board again? sadly, it'll never be Echo & the Bunnymen without Pete de Freitas. BTW - does anyone else think that Babybird is going out of his way to sound like Ian McCulloch? James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:13:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: Ro:byn in the My Area On Mon, 12 May 1997, Wet Toast Tweezers wrote: > 1) how many people are flying from out of town (susan) or country > (cynthia)?? Haven't got any free airline tickets lying around this time. So the farthest I will be travelling for this tour is downtown Chicago :). > 2) where are pre-event events. This brings up something I was wondering about getting together for the Chicago show. I don't think there's too much around where the House of Blues is. As far as I recall it's nestled into some apartment/office complex thingie called Marina Towers which is actually a bit off the beaten path as far as downtown goes. Anyone want to try meeting somewhere else before the show and transporting selves thither at the appropriate time, or should we simply try to find each other at the HofB? I've never been (in fact, I had actually made a personal pledge to myself not to visit there, for the same reasons I don't usually buy records in chain stores, etc. and like that) so I don't know anything about the layout or how easy/difficult it would be to actually find people you've never seen before :). > prime real-estate. or can you hang out in the loo, and chew on the > sani-cake and ask the man if he can soil one if he comes in?? Well, I suppose you boys can do that if you want. Of course it's entirely possible that misunderstandings might occur, especially in San Francisco, as to the true purpose of your loitering in such a location for extended periods of time :). Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:50:11 -0400 (EDT) #1 Post-Modern List Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project > I still don't see why the other Floydies should have any say over the > release of 'Scream' and 'Vegetable Man' after all this time. If Robyn can > release 'Vegetable Man', why not Syd? Because they played on the track. > > A couple of things I would really like, but probably don't exist, are a > tape of 'Snowing' (they played it at Games for May, just the 30 years ago, > one of the best shows I ever saw) and a tape of 'Candy and a Currant Bun' > when it was still 'Let's Roll another One'. I've been trying to locate Snowing. I never have. I do have "Let's roll another one", though... > PS I was reading 'The Return of Ulysses' the other day, and I noticed > that the weasels were all going "ooray-ooray" at one point. So it's not > just the title that Syd got from that book! Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 02:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh 1) Months ago, someone mentioned a "long version of Heroes and VIllains". I said that there wasn't one. I recently realized that there *is* one. It's about 15-20 minutes. It's just a bunch of sessions edited together by bootleggers, though, so it's not an official song. A similar edit exists for Good Vibrations. (There are enough odd link tracks and sessions to do this with a couple Smile songs) 2) I've never really heard/seen Rush Limbaugh. Is he *really* hate-radio? I can't see how that would be nationally popular. Is this a case of a) Robyn attacking a target because he's well-known b) Rush Limbaugh being actively hateful/racist/etc c) Rush Limbaugh being actively conservative/religious d) Rush Limbaugh making an occasional ethnic joke e) other. 3)Robyn Titles Crossover list Heaven (Squeeze) Don't You (Candlebox) Lizard (Jeremy Enigk) Rain (The Beatles) The Devil's Radio (George Harrison) Woman In You(I'm tempted to say The Bee Gees, but I think that's wrong) Superman (The Kinks) All I can think of at the moment...any others? 4) I was led to believe that "You Really GOt Me" was the quintessential Mod song... 4a) I can't see "Driving" as bubblegum. I don't know what it is, though...I can't seem to pigeonhole "Head" by The Monkees, either. 4b) Someone dissed "Monica". It's a great song. I think that any of Ray Davies' Latin songs are good. (boy, that sentence came out mixed up) Terrence Marks Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh >Months ago, someone mentioned a "long version of Heroes and VIllains". >I said that there wasn't one. I recently realized that there *is* one. >It's about 15-20 minutes. It's just a bunch of sessions edited together >by bootleggers, though, so it's not an official song. A similar edit >exists for Good Vibrations. (There are enough odd link tracks and >sessions to do this with a couple Smile songs) I believe that on the Beach Boys' recent box set, there's about a 6-minute version of "Heroes & Villains," with several alternate sections inserted. There was something similar done for "Good Vibrations" also. >b) Rush Limbaugh being actively hateful/racist/etc >c) Rush Limbaugh being actively conservative/religious >d) Rush Limbaugh making an occasional ethnic joke All of those (well, not actively religious). I watched his TV show a few times, and I found it particularly offensive how he always made fun of Jesse Jackson's ethnic accent. Plus, whenever he talked about Jackson, he'd flash a dumb picture of Jackson taken during the '70s, when Jesse had a huge trendy afro. Grrr. Oh well, the show has been cancelled now, so I'm happy. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 02:17:29 -0500 (CDT) From: John Tyson Littlejohn Subject: Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger On Tue, 13 May 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > 3)Robyn Titles Crossover list > > Heaven (Squeeze) > Don't You (Candlebox) > Lizard (Jeremy Enigk) > Rain (The Beatles) > The Devil's Radio (George Harrison) > Woman In You(I'm tempted to say The Bee Gees, but I think that's wrong) > Superman (The Kinks) > > All I can think of at the moment...any others? I heard many a moon ago that the Byrds - or maybe McGuinn solo - did a "Child of the Universe" > 4) I was led to believe that "You Really GOt Me" was the quintessential > Mod song... That honor goes to "My Generation", surely > I can't seem to pigeonhole "Head" by The Monkees, either. Sounds dangerous JL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:10:50 +0100 (BST) From: dench Wet Toast Tweezers , #1 Post-Modern List Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project I think the reason that Waters and Gilmour, at least, have vetoed the release of unreleased Syd PF material is that they feel guilty about what they did to him. This is purely a personal view, but I think that if you study carefully what these two 'friends' of Syd said and continue to say, and if you study what other people said, and if you also listen to the music being recorded at the time, you will find that things were not quite as Rog and Dave would have us believe. In addition, I think there is still a strong streak of jealousy. Waters obviously likes to think of PF as 'his' band, yet there are many of us who know that they were Syd's and that he had more talent and genius in his little finger than RW has in his entire body. It must be galling to him to find people still worshipping at the altar of Syd, when all he gets is the copyright credit for a female inflatable pig! It is a salutary comment on his genius that two of PF's most popular later works, 'Shine on you crazy diamond' and 'The Wall' were both heavily inspired by the absent Syd. Here endeth the sermon, Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:20:02 +0100 (BST) From: dench "Charles H. Vivisection" Subject: Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger There was also a song called 'Superman' recorded by REM. Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:04:40 +0100 (BST) From: dench Wet Toast Tweezers , #1 Post-Modern List Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project I have a Floyd bootleg LP that contains the studio versions of VM and STLS. The album is called 'Flaming and Screaming' and the two songs are pretty good quality. Does anyone know if these tracks are on any CD bootleg? I have the radio versions on a CD, but the quality is poor to say the least. I would also love to get my hands on a bootleg with 'Reaction in G' and 'Jug Band Blues' from the BBC sessions - is anyone aware of the existence of one? Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 01:57:48 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project >I think the reason that Waters and Gilmour, at least, have vetoed the >release of unreleased Syd PF material is that they feel guilty about what >they did to him. Well, if they felt guilty, wouldn't sending Syd some fat new royalty checks ease their consciences a bit? >In addition, I think there is still a strong streak of jealousy. Waters >obviously likes to think of PF as 'his' band, yet there are many of us who >know that they were Syd's and that he had more talent and genius in his >little finger than RW has in his entire body. It must be galling to him >to find people still worshipping at the altar of Syd, when all he gets is >the copyright credit for a female inflatable pig! It is a salutary >comment on his genius that two of PF's most popular later works, 'Shine on >you crazy diamond' and 'The Wall' were both heavily inspired by the absent >Syd. Now that sounds more likely. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:59:11 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Terrence M Marks , "Charles H. Vivisection" Subject: Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger > On Tue, 13 May 1997, John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: > > > > I heard many a moon ago that the Byrds - or maybe McGuinn solo - did a > > "Child of the Universe" It's a Byrds B-sid > > > 4) I was led to believe that "You Really GOt Me" was the quintessential > > > Mod song... > > > > That honor goes to "My Generation", surely It's a good record but it is an observation of the movement rather than an expression of it. 'Whatcha Gonna Do About It?' by the Small Faces is the authentic article. If you really prefer the Who, 'Anyway Anyhow Anywhere' has more of the essential amphetamine rush. - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:38:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger MR Godwin, keeper of Syd bootlegs, wrote: >>I heard many a moon ago that the Byrds - or maybe McGuinn solo - did a >>"Child of the Universe" > >It's a Byrds B-side Is not. ;P It's on the Dr. Byrds & Mr. Hyde album, the reissue of which I was coincidentally just playing. "Child of the Universe" also appears on the way-damn-too-cool soundtrack to the film Candy (only in the '60s...), but with some extra production touches of horns and what-not. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 97 07:54:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Superkeen info? could someone who has has picked up the new "Superkeen" CD single by homer please provide me with the following information for discography purposes... song times song authorships musician credits which song(s) feature Robyn's vocals? producer. recording date if avalable thank you in advance -russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:30:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Re: Queen Elvis CD, & The Can Opener On Mon, 12 May 1997, dench wrote >I am relatively new to this list, but I've been a big RH fan for quite >some time (I discovered him via Syd B.). The one RH CD that I don't have >that I really desperately want is 'Queen Elvis'. It seems completely >untraceable in the UK. I'm glad someone else brought this up (I thought I was just unlucky not being able to find it in any UK record store!). I know nothing of this CD, so any info would be much appreciated. On a different note, I was reading the notes in the Kershaw Sessions CD last night, and in the passage written by Andy and Morris they recall that The Can Opener was written and performed collectively. But the songwriting credits state that it's written by just Robyn. Anyone know the real story? Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:46:42 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Child of the Universe > >>I heard many a moon ago that the Byrds - or maybe McGuinn solo - did a > >>"Child of the Universe" > MR Godwin, keeper of Syd bootlegs, wrote: > >It's a Byrds B-side > > Is not. ;P It's on the Dr. Byrds & Mr. Hyde album, the reissue of which I > was coincidentally just playing. Yes it is too, Eric, I've got it! See the discography at: http://ebni.com/byrds/refdiscogbyrds.html You're forgiven though, because it was a UK-only release - MRG! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:18:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Gregory Stuart Shell Subject: Re: Heroes and Villains and Limbaugh Eb, I usually just lurk around here, but just to clear up some misinformation from your last note. The Rush Limbaugh TV show was not cancelled. Rush stopped making the shows because the networks would not give him a decent time slot. Kinda funny how that works since his show had a gigantic audience. He now does just radio but I understand he is soon to be back on national TV. I despise just about everyone I have ever met, so don't think I am farther right than you are wrong, I mean left, I am neither, I just spin in circles, laughing all the way. "Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."-James 4:14 Regards, Gregory S. Shell Subversive Specialist System Analyst ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:42:45 -0700 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) CC: mrrunion@tng.net Subject: "World Cafe" dilemma Need some help from you Robyn-on-the-Radio collectors out there. It concerns the 3/26/95 World Cafe show. I have seen two conflicting track listings. Could anyone tell me which is correct, and then if they know where the other is from? Thanks. Listing 1 (the one I have, but probably the wrong show): Balloon Man / Egyptian Cream / I Something You / Never Stop Bleeding / Driving Aloud Listing 2: Raymond Chandler Evening / I Something You / Egyptian Cream* / De Chirico Street* / I Am Not Me / Arms Of Love* (*=with Deni Bonet) Plus, could someone tell me what radio station/city the World Cafe show was on? Thanks again. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:53:51 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: Heroes and Villains/Box Set On Mon, 12 May 1997, Eb wrote: > >Months ago, someone mentioned a "long version of Heroes and VIllains". > >I said that there wasn't one. I recently realized that there *is* one. > >It's about 15-20 minutes. It's just a bunch of sessions edited together > >by bootleggers, though, so it's not an official song. A similar edit > >exists for Good Vibrations. (There are enough odd link tracks and > >sessions to do this with a couple Smile songs) > > I believe that on the Beach Boys' recent box set, there's about a 6-minute > version of "Heroes & Villains," with several alternate sections inserted. > There was something similar done for "Good Vibrations" also. I just got the box set from BMG (for the low price of $24--not bad for 5 discs) a couple days ago. It has been my best box set experience mainly because I had not been that familiar with anything beyond Pet Sounds or their hits, but also because it includes on the 5th disc an insight into Brian Wilson's "artistic process." Several of the alternate versions and takes are included in sequence until they get the version on record: "Okay, let's try just the bass and organ"... On this disc is a track only version of Heroes and Villians. Also included on discs 2 and 3 are the sections version (mentioned above) and the 45 version, respectively. If anyone has a candidate for better harmonies, I'd like to know cause these guys are unbelievable--maybe it's a genetic thing. Chicago Guided By Voices Fans: They are playing at U. of C. for $4 this Saturday. Let me know if anyone would like me to get them tickets. Andy da-snyder@uchicago.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 97 12:56:32 -500 From: spine@iastate.edu (James Francis) Subject: He Was Talking Through a Bimbo Just because it needs to be said: Yes, Limbaugh is hate radio. I've had, unfortunately, plenty of chances to find out. He's not as directly confrontational as some of the lesser hate radio people--he's smoother. (Which is, I understand, how "the devil" is often supposed to be.) Jasper, this one's evil, --"Jim" Francis ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Limbaugh (RH content 2%) From: guambat@juno.com (Total Fat 17 g) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:18:46 EDT I've seen Rush a few times and he's pretty much done the same thing--make fun of "liberals", bash Clinton and act as if he's the only one who REALLY knows what's going on in Washington. I think the saddest thing about Rush is that everything he does--everything he IS--is negative, critical, and destructive. He's polemical and divisive, and if he REALLY cared about the country as he says he does, maybe he could see fit to bring some unity into his message. I'm afraid that his true motives are more economic than political. This explains why whenever someone calls him on the carpet for his exaggerated claims and mean-spirited accusations, he just smirks into the camera and says, "Hey--I'm just an entertainer!". Personally, I thought Robyn's "Devil's Radio" was a brilliant take on Rush--as well as the sad state of affairs on our nation's radio airwaves. That's my 2 cents, The Guambat ------------------------------ From: Ken W Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:40:00 -0400 (EDT) First of all, hello. I was on this list a long time ago, but didn't post much. I just recently re-subscribed. > I think the reason that Waters and Gilmour, at least, have vetoed the > release of unreleased Syd PF material is that they feel guilty about what > they did to him. This is purely a personal view, but I think that if you > study carefully what these two 'friends' of Syd said and continue to say, > and if you study what other people said, and if you also listen to the > music being recorded at the time, you will find that things were not quite > as Rog and Dave would have us believe. I don't know if this makes any difference, but David Gilmour checks in regularly with Syd's sister to see how he is doing and also to make sure that he is getting his checks. I don't think that she allows him to see Syd, however... -Ken -- hazmat@shore.net http://www.shore.net/~hazmat panic@io.com ------------------------------ From: Ken W Subject: Re: Heroin and Village and Limburger Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:43:12 -0400 (EDT) > > 3)Robyn Titles Crossover list > > > > Rain (The Beatles) Rain (The Cult) -Ken -- hazmat@shore.net http://www.shore.net/~hazmat panic@io.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:25:50 -0400 (EDT) From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: Superkeen info? also sprach Russ Reynolds : >could someone who has has picked up the new "Superkeen" CD single by homer >please provide me with the following information for discography purposes... this info can be found at their website: http://www.foresight.co.uk/homer/. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .