From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #95 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 95 Saturday May 10 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Movies & the Dear Janes Re: new date (michigan) Re: Movies & the Dear Janes Robyn in San Francisco, 6/4 Stuff about how the music industry works that has little to do with Robyn. Copey Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: fegmaniax in Berlin? cones Re: This may be vile. . . . but it *is* RH related! Sani-cakes (no RH) Re: Sani-cakes (no RH) Robyn and the Rugburns Re: robyn involved in syd film project Re: This may be vile. . . . but it *is* RH related! dylan, robyn, and the battle of the sani-cakes........ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:47:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Matthew Valenta Subject: Movies & the Dear Janes If whoever is collecting the favorite movie lists can e-mail me their address, I'll send mine. You've guilted me into it. :) I finally found the Dear Janes album. Has anyone else noticed that most of Robyn's opening bands lately have been semi-obscure and fairly conventional sounding female lead groups? Not that I'm complaining because I've become a huge Deni fan, but I would expect such a "complex" artist as Robyn to tour with somewhat stranger opening acts. Anyway, the Dear Janes haven't really caught my interest. matt ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 22:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: new date (michigan) In a message dated 97-05-08 06:23:58 EDT, you write: << >Robyn Hitchcock >with guests The Rugburns >Thursday May 22, Magic Stick, Detroit >4140 Woodward Ave 313-833-9700 >http://www.99music.com JESUS! Detroit Fegs are in for a MAJOR treat! The Rugburns are freakin' great. They come from San Diego and are funnier then hell. They put on a great live show. If they come to your town, go see them. Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 21:11:21 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: Movies & the Dear Janes >I finally found the Dear Janes album. Has anyone else noticed that most >of Robyn's opening bands lately have been semi-obscure and fairly >conventional sounding female lead groups? Not that I'm complaining >because I've become a huge Deni fan, but I would expect such a "complex" >artist as Robyn to tour with somewhat stranger opening acts. Anyway, >the Dear Janes haven't really caught my interest. Mine either, but they *did* play 2 songs I liked pretty well at the show up in Nashville in March... Something like "10 Milligram Girl" and I'd remember the other title if I saw it.. Anyone have the album & be willing to tape a copy for me so i'd have these songs? I'll gladly reimburse shipping/tape cost or trade.. LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last of the Red-Hot Swamis... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1542 ------------------------------ Date: 8 May 1997 19:48:55 -0700 From: "David Kwan" Subject: Robyn in San Francisco, 6/4 Robyn will be playing at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco on Wednesday, June 4th. :o) ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Stuff about how the music industry works that has little to do with Robyn. PRE READING WARNINGS: 1) This has little to do with Robyn 2) This is NOT a flame. Just a Counter-point. Brooks wrote: <> Eb wrote: << I also don't think your comments about HITS are warranted. HITS is well-known as the most irreverent and fun of the trades. And you can't compare Billboard and HITS -- one is focused on record sales, and the other is focused on radio airplay. >> I've got to chime in here and say I agree with Eb. Charts vs. Radio debate aside, Hits may come off as a big "in-joke" on first read, but spend a little time with it and you'll find Hits is not only informative, but also not afraid to slap the industry around either. They take no prisoners, and NO ONE is beyond a jab, joke, or outright dissing. In this slime filled industry, that's pretty noble IMHO. And it IS funny! Sort of like how the Simpsons make fun of EVERYTHING- even themselves. Hits is very much like The Simpsons. As far as the Advertising vs. Chart Placement argument is concerned, I'd suggest this- as a record starts to do well, the record company starts spending more money on advertising in order to keep it going, etc, etc, etc. To suggest they buy ads in order to chart higher is false. The problem here is that radio programmers often believe the hype of charts. God forbid they make up their own mind about music. The words "Mother, May I" come to mind. Does payola happen? Hell yes. Do trade magazines ride a fine line between reflecting trends objectively and refecleting the best interesets of their advertisers? Hell yes. Is that really any different then General Electric owning NBC (How do you think the nightly news would report on a toxic leak at a GE plant)? 'Tis the nature of capitalism, my friend. Not saying it's right- just saying it is what it is. I find that Hits is at least HONEST about what they are, which is more then I can say for Album Network, Gavin, R and R, and even Billboard. A slogan taken from the pages of Hits Magazine: "A blatant rip-off of a good magazine." Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:54:40 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Copey >Lots of folks, critics and alt-radio listners alike, would tell you PEGGY >SUICIDE, but I found it rather dull and tedious. I know James likes it a >lot, so your mileage may vary. Hmm. either a different James or my Copey tastes are being misrepresented! I'd go for: World Shut Your Mouth (album - the glorious oboe of "Head Hang Low" won me over the first time I heard it) St Julian (his most 'commercial' - not that it's particularly commercial. But some of it is verrrry catchy) 20 Mothers (a great return to form after some real oddball hippyshit noodling that makes Donovan look like a chartered accountant) Jehovahkill (too long, but there's more than enough excellent stuff here to make up for the excesses) and My Nation Underground (accessible and catchy, although there are one or two clunkers) BTW - for those of you who haven't heard it yet I would recommend Martin Newall's "The Greatest Living Englishman" to anyone who likes Robyn H, XTC and the Kinks. It blends the three sounds into a lovely whole. James (who, as a Moomin*, performed "The Great Dominions" frequently in public) (*no! no! The band was called "The Moomins"! Sheesh!) James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 00:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project In a message dated 97-05-08 07:38:54 EDT, you write: << I'm just not sure how Syd's career can be stretched into two hours, but it should be very interesting. I wonder how Syd will feel about this if he finds out. >> Come now, even the most basic of lives can make a 2 hour movie. Read Crazy Diamond and you'll find plenty to make a movie out of. If the subject is treated with compassion and attention, then getting into the mind of Syd alone could be enough. In addition, there have been movies based on thinner plots then that of this: Guy forms psych-out band. Band takes off. Guy starts to wig. Band replaces him and goes on to bigger success. Guy retreats from the business. As I see it, Syd's short recording career is actually a blessing in the respect that we'll get an even, well paced, fairly detailed account of what happened, as opposed to something like The Doors. Less is more. Sincerely, Jay (nearing posting limit for the day!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:17:41 -0500 (CDT) From: John Tyson Littlejohn Subject: Re: fegmaniax in Berlin? On Thu, 8 May 1997, John Burgan wrote: > Dear All > > I've been subscribing to the list for a few months now and would be > intrigued if there are any Robyn fans out here. Mrs Wafflehead suggested > last year our man planned to do a European tour but we ain't seen him yet. I'll be starting school in Jena in September. That's just a couple of hours train ride from Berlin. Hopefully I'll arrive just in time for a nice tour. > Furthermore, did I hear correctly that he recorded something in German (I > think it was "Alright, Yeah")? If so, how do I getta hold of this, if only > for the novelty value? I think he released "Alright, Yeah" in Swedish. It's on Mossy Liquor if memory serves. > For the record, I'm an exile Brit who finds that a diet of Hitchcock and the > BBC World Service keeps me just this side of sane... I rather prefer to listen to rather than eat my daily dose of Hitchcock. The BBC World Service however is an entirely different matter JL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:42:24 -0500 From: John Subject: cones Cone-mania has hit the UK! This was forwarded to me by someone on the Billy Bragg list, where I think for some reason or other they are having a cone-debate. John >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 08 May 97 09:51:00 GMT >From: Bott, Dave, BOTTDA > >Strange coincidence. Birmingham and Wolverhampton County Councils have >yesterday announced a cone amnesty, where (and I quote) "all the students >who have acquired the 600 or so traffic cones which are missing can hand >them in with no fear of theft charges. We think that they take them because >they make nice ornaments for student flats. Please come forward.We just >want our cones back." > >1) Does this mean only students steal cones? >2) What sort of state do the council think students live in that a cone > makes a nice ornament? >3) Have i got nothing better to do that worry about missing cones? > >I'll keep you informed of the outcome. >Dave > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: This may be vile. . . . but it *is* RH related! Date: Fri, 9 May 97 17:45:24 -0000 From: The Great Quail Wow. Hey. Reading Susan's reply to my posting, I just had one of those Joycean epiphanies, wherein you fully realize that maybe the experiences of boys and girls really do ahave a few differences, other than, say, that weird day in fifth grade when all the girls get to go to an assembly, after which they all return clutching little unmarked boxes, their faces filled with a mixture of stunned panic and gleeful "I've got a secret, nyah nyah," except - of course - the inevitable girl (Susan was one, I bet) who does *not* see the point in hiding it from the curious boys, so she informs them dryly, "We bleed between the legs. Think of that for a while, boyo . . . " Oh, yeah . . . well that's how it happened to me, anyway. But I digress; here 'tis: I pecked: >> So I walk out and shamefully tell my story to my friend, who is quite the >> Robyn Fan. She doesn't even blink: "So . . . did you take the urinal >> sani-cake?" Susan wondered: >Sani-cake? GoodNIGHT, Gracie! I guess that would be what we cruder folk >refer to as soap. Or toast. Or something like that. Errr . . . not at all, Susan. Haven't you ever been in a guy's restroom? Aw, come on, it's only us . . . you can tell! Well, I mosy certainly did not mean soap. In a urinal, there's these little sanitary mint thingies, like big mothballs, that actually go by the trade name of "Sanitary Cake." (Having spent a summer as a janitor, I know these things. Like for instance: the cardboard tube in the middle of a roll of toilet paper is called the "core," and the spindle that it slides over is the "mandrill,"but I don't know why.) A sani-cake. That's what I meant. They are round discs, really, and sit right on these otehr things in many urinals . . . rubber mats perforated with holes, the purpose of which I have *never* been clear on, which by the way usually carry a message printed upon them in large, white, sans-serif type, like "Just Say No to Drugs;" which seems a bit obvious, really, when you've seen it the thousandth time one long drunken night in a bar, thinking, if it weren't for those twenty beers, I wouldn't *have* to miss every third song. . . . Quail: >> Fortunately for me, I recently met Robyn after a gig, during which time I >> behaved in a somewhat less moronic fashion. I am also pretty sure that he >> did not remember me, which laid to rest that particular secret fear I've >> been allowing to brood for several years in the back of my paranoid >> brain. . . . Susan: >And now you can rest assured that if Robyn is lurking around here in >anyway at all, or someone who knows him is, that they will -remind- him of >it, so that he will forever remember you as that weird guy who said "Wow, >it's you!" in the bathroom! As Homer would say: "DOH!" Quail: >> PS - No! I did not return for the urinal cake! Sheesh. Susan: >Why not? Then you could do something similar to what you did with Zappa's >cigarette stub. Just leave it in the bathroom and then say "Oh, did you >use that soap? You know, Robyn Hitchcock washed his hands with it once" Errr . . . see above explanation of a urinal cake, errr . . . . In other related news, Riel: >> Yours, the $6.50 an hour Angee's Italian Restaurant cooking >> Lord of the Gnocchi...er...Dance Oh Suzannah: >You can be Lord of both, it's ok! Unless someone else wants to be Lord >of the Gnocchi. Only since no one's stepped forward to dispute your claim, >I assume you're Lord of both. If it's ok with our fearless cult leader, >the Great Quail, that is :). No! Again, I refuse the crown of Rome! Oh yeah, by the way . . . anyone interested in a Feg-only gig at some crop circles . . . .? Cheep on ya, Quail ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 97 15:27:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Sani-cakes (no RH) >slides over is the "mandrill,"but I don't know why.) A sani-cake. That's >what I meant. They are round discs, really, and sit right on these otehr >things in many urinals . . . rubber mats perforated with holes, the >purpose of which I have *never* been clear on, which by the way usually >carry a message printed upon them in large, white, sans-serif type, like >"Just Say No to Drugs;" which seems a bit obvious, really, when you've of course, some of yer REAL high class bars (such as the now defunct "Matt's Place" in Mountain View, CA) have what they call "Rest Room Roulette" in place of these rubber mats. When you relieve yourself on these things the force of your discharge spins the arrow around, and when the arrow stops spinning it points to your fortune. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:14:18 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Sani-cakes (no RH) Continuing this lovely thread.... I always thought the perforated rubber screens were mostly designed to catch butts. Yes, I mean cigarette butts. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 22:34:07 -0500 (CDT) From: David Witzany Subject: Robyn and the Rugburns This combination of acts is almost too good to believe. The Rugburns are a quirky band with highly melodic tunes and off-the-wall ideas of good subject matter for songs. I'm half-tempted to try and get up to Michigan for this show. If he hasn't already, expect Mr. Hedblade to second my emotion on this. Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:41:13 -0400 From: Keith Hanlon Subject: Re: robyn involved in syd film project Not that anyone cares... but perhaps someone does... My band has a song called Taxidermy Scheme. It's about Robyn secretly meeting Syd in some London park, where Syd is at a bench feeding pigeons. Syd then passes on a stuffed pigeon filled with microfiche, which contain new songs for Robyn to record. No names are mentioned. It's our epic. Keith ................................................................... The Norton's Orchestraville Homepage http://www.frognet.net/~khanlon/Nortons/index.html ................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:56:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Mississippi Malcolm McDowell Subject: Re: This may be vile. . . . but it *is* RH related! On Fri, 9 May 1997, The Great Quail wrote: > their faces filled with a mixture of stunned panic and gleeful "I've got > a secret, nyah nyah," except - of course - the inevitable girl (Susan was > one, I bet) who does *not* see the point in hiding it from the curious > boys, so she informs them dryly, "We bleed between the legs. Think of > that for a while, boyo . . . " Well, actually I went to an all-girls school. So who was I going to tell about it? The only males I knew were my Dad (who probably already knew, I'm guessing) and my dog (who didn't understand English). > Errr . . . not at all, Susan. Haven't you ever been in a guy's restroom? > Aw, come on, it's only us . . . you can tell! Actually I have on occasion, but honestly on those occasions I was most interested in quickly securing a stall and as quickly leaving when done, having only resorted to going in there out of sheer exasperation. (explanation of Sani-Cakes deleted) Ok, kids. Now what I want is an answer to -this- question. How come no one answered my question about the interview where Robyn said he really wanted to be Bob Dylan, and TEN PEOPLE felt compelled to tell me about Sani-cakes? > No! Again, I refuse the crown of Rome! Who said anything about Rome? We're talking about a kingdom that is not of this earth (it's actually of Saturn). > Oh yeah, by the way . . . anyone interested in a Feg-only gig at some > crop circles . . . .? Only Fegs invited or only Fegs playing? I'll play (or rather, inflict my playing upon you) but where would I plug in my amp? Would it be powered by mystical crop circle energy? Love on ya, Susan n.p. Kinks tape I made for Jay (who had better claim it soon, because I'm getting attached to it :)) ******************************************************************************* "The worship of the beautiful always ends in an orgy"- Benjamin Disraeli, "Lothair", lxxvii ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 01:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dylan, robyn, and the battle of the sani-cakes........ sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu (Mississippi Malcolm McDowell) writes: > Ok, kids. Now what I want is an answer to -this- question. How come no one > answered my question about the interview where Robyn said he really wanted > to be Bob Dylan, and TEN PEOPLE felt compelled to tell me about > Sani-cakes? it's a guy thing? we knew the answer? in any case, i don't remember from whence it came, but i remember the dylan thing being mentioned a few months back. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .