From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #88 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 88 Tuesday April 29 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle Just what IS the Northstar System? I wanna destroy you music in comms Re: fwd: Production shining (no rh content) Re: music in comms Re: shining ( lil bit o'robyn mention) Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle Another ME Review ... Re: Production production viddy well, brother (no RH) Re: Another ME Review ... Trades with hedblade deni bonet in hoboken sunday may 4 I cheesed it The Great Ray Re: Just what IS the Northstar System? Re: Merchant of Irvine Re: The Great Ray Robespierre or not?? Re: Merchant of Irvine ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" Subject: Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:38:52 -0400 >> > left the album version unchanged. Once this change was made, the >> > BBC happily gave plenty of air-play to this charming song about >> > picking up a transvestite at a bar. >> >> Bah. "I'm glad I'm a man and so is Lola". She's just glad that he's a >> man, that's all. > >Um, maybe I'm not getting something. You're joking, right Terry? > >Love on ya, >Susan >who always thought that was one of Ray's cleverer lines :) I agree that it was one of Ray's cleverest lines, perhaps even cleverer than you might think : 'I'm not the worlds most masculine man but I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man and so was Lola...' Given the context of the song, it is obvious that Ray is implying that Lola was a man. But Ray was clever enough to phrase the line in a way which made it ambiguous as to whether Lola was also glad that Ray was a man or Lola was also a man. Thus he was able to make his punch-line and have an escape route if he got into strife with the lyric. (Bear in mind that a previous attempt at a come-back hit single, Plastic Man, had stalled in the charts because BBC Radio banned it because it contained the highly offensive word 'bum'). Definitely one of Ray's cleverer lines. Even though this song got a brought up because of the music in commercials thread, it could well have got a mention in the thread of humour in music. This song manages to be one of the funniest songs ever without being at all corny. A classic. Dave. ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 8:23:47 EDT Subject: Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle Anusol - from Cosmik Debris , FZ (The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life) -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:10:54 -0400 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: Just what IS the Northstar System? In re products in songs, Adrian Belew has a thing for Cadillacs. Did a song with The Bears called "Old Fat Cadillac" and then self-referenced in "Oh Daddy", a song he sang with his daughter, from Mr. Musichead. Robyn content: I, too, have heard The Man's music in a strange place. Last fall I heard Madonna of the Wasps piped in to an exhibit hall while at a meeting in Texas. This was made even stranger given that the rest of the hotel had twangy cowboy music piped in. Scott Hunter McCleary 3052 S. Buchanan St., #A-1 Arlington, VA 22206 The new home of Prodigal Dog Communications: http://prodigaldog.com ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: I wanna destroy you anyone interested in buying this 45 in great condition (pervert b-side) on armegeddon for $45? I know it's expensive, but that's the price (not my price, but that of a friend). dobbs "What's in mind," I asked. but she kept painting a picture of two people who looked happy together. ...........I didn't understand. ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: music in comms hey fegs, i dunno how many others feel this way, but tghis thread isn't too exciting, and it really piles up in the box. it's been pretty thoughtful, but doesn't really deal with the hitch-hiker too much, and it's beginning to get tiresom. don't get pissed at me for this post (because i don't really like these types of posts myself), and if you wanna tell me to piss off, go right ahead!! dobbs "What's in mind," I asked. but she kept painting a picture of two people who looked happy together. ...........I didn't understand. ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: fwd: Production you know you're quite right about your "production" definition, but i think we all know what we're talking about when we say "produced" or "over-produced". we're talking about having a bunch of different things that sound like they were injectedinto the song after recording. Like talking over the singing, and synths on top of guitars, and all that type of stuff (not giving specific examples, I'll leave that to the people who've got a bit more time on their hands.) OOOh, but a bit of an overproduced song on EYE(!) pops into mind as certainly clikot....ya know what I mean? well, maybe wafflehead....> bedways is rightways now. best be headin' homeways to catch up on some schpatka!! dobbs "What's in mind," I asked. but she kept painting a picture of two people who looked happy together. ...........I didn't understand. ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: shining (no rh content) is anyone else watching this? So far i really do like it. I think danny is great. Jack leaves a bit to be desired, and I liked the idea in the original movie that he was a bit more Insane, but I do like this movie, and that's saying a lot for me. I never really viddy the cini's, but this is real horror show! fears! dobbs "What's in mind," I asked. but she kept painting a picture of two people who looked happy together. ...........I didn't understand. ------------------------------ From: BendMeOvr7@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: music in comms In a message dated 97-04-29 10:24:07 EDT, jlgr@concentric.net writes: << it's been pretty thoughtful, but doesn't really deal with the hitch-hiker too much, and it's beginning to get tiresom. don't get pissed at me for this post (because i don't really like these types of posts myself), and if you wanna tell me to piss off, go right ahead!! dobbs >> would probably try to tell you something if I wasnt laughing so hard......thank bob I only have to type..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:42:58 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: shining ( lil bit o'robyn mention) >is anyone else watching this? So far i really do like it. I think danny is >great. Jack leaves a bit to be desired, and I liked the idea in the >original movie that he was a bit more Insane, but I do like this movie, and >that's saying a lot for me. I never really viddy the cini's, but this is >real horror show! what does viddy the cini's mean??? Yes I have been watching this too-- and you're right, it IS scary in places! But did you notice that at the end of nearly every single scene, the characters leave the room and something really predictable happens, like a door shuts, or a light flickers, or a rocker rocks by itself, etc.? We have been playing the "Shining" haunted-object guessing game while we watch it. Try to guess what the haunted object is before the scene ends. How about those Robyn-esque topiary animals that come to life and shake the snow off of themselves, then turn into some cross between an alligator and a lion? But why are they so scared of these things? Can a bush really kill you? Or is it only bushes that are shaped like animals? I think Kubrick's bush-maze was much scarier though... At the risk of exposing myself for the trash culture glutton that I am, the kid who is playing Danny used to be on "The Young and the Restless", and he was the most ANNOYING little f*ck you ever saw hit the screen! He is such an over-actor, and so unbelievably wholesome....barf... yes I DID just use the f-word to describe a 7-y.o., bring on the FCC! lj (listening to Tom Petty's "She's the One" soundtrack right now) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:24:19 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Music in commercials -- A new angle I can't believe nobody has mentioned, Robyn: "Certainly Cliquot". Well, now somebody has. ~N ------------------------------ From: RIELWJ@sbu.edu Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:28:05 EDT Subject: Still pissed i didn't get to see the Dylan show on campus friday night. Had to work, boss on honeymoon, got wife and kid to feed,......no fair. It would have been my first Dylan show, and though I'm not an official fan i would have liked to see him. Anyway....anyone else think The Great Quail should be designated the official spokesbird of our great cult? He seems to have all the qualifications:charismatic, all-knowing, hypnotic, great taste in hoods, and several unmixed packages of purple Kool Aid. Was so impressed he made the connection between Bill paxton in ALIENS (a movie I pretty much know by heart) and in TWISTER. It adds such a whole new dimension to that movies plot...if only Michael Crichton had picked up on it when he wrote the script (speaking of which-- total unrobyn subject here--LOST WORLD novel sucked and I'm glad to see that Speilberg has so liberally from it for the film. It looks great. Wonder if the Universal web site is finished...). Yes, an excellent observation...I'll admit, I would occasionally find myself humming something from THROWING COPPER, but none of the new stuff thrills me at all. I just find them completely lacking in charm. Can't much stand dourness in my music anymore. I am, after 26 years, completely and totally happy. Interesting, becasue I was born and raised in Jamestown, NY (not too far from Hershey, really) home of the 10,000 Maniacs (in more ways than one, I might add). I used to think of them in the same way;dour, dull, charmless, but I've opened up to them more in the past couple of years, and it still amazes me that people down here (I live about 40 miles east, now) all want to know if I've met her, etc. Havn't met her. Met her mom briefly once the day after their first appeaeance on Letterman and she was complaining about Natalie's clothes....the new band line-up will be quite good, I think. I saw John and Mary Lombardo play a few years back. If they get a chance, they'll succeed...."Headmaster Ritual" sounds like the Egyptians? I can hear it. the Smiths catalouge is imbedded in my head. Didn't Robyn say he wrote "So You Think You're..." at Morrissey's house with Kimberley? Oh, too be a fly on the wall. What a sad ending to the Smiths. Morrissey needs a new band and direction (the kid late of Suede would be a good fit). he's better in a partnership. I really believe Rourke and Joyce are one of the more unappreciated rhythm sections ever. It's they that drive "There Is A Light..." I suppose I should take this to a Smiths list but I can only imagine it to be insufferable and sad. They were one of the FUNNIEST bands ever. Don't find them depressing at all. Let's hope we don't see Robyn in court next year being sued for cones and orbs owed to Andy and Morris... I wouldn't call him Hitchy. But, on the NHL subject, Dominek Hasek, goaltender for our Buffalo Sabres, seems to me to be a dead ringer for Billy Bragg, who had played live shows with RH...yes. Lets play Six Degrees of Robyn Hitchcock. Who wants to start. I'll throw out a name....Fred Schnider (an easy one, methinks). I, too, am watching THE SHINING and am satisfied. I love Kubrick's version (and it IS HIS version). the maze finale is one of the best in movie history. Mick Garris is getting quite good at this mini-series thing. he did a good job on THE STAND (still would have preferred the oft mentioned George Romero version--same with PET SEMETARY). I better stop babbling. Oomalama, The Benevolent Yet Strangely Sinister Lord of the Dance "The Deity is the Soul of the world, actuating it and actuated by it"--David Hume ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:39:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "NORMAN PARKER +44 (0)1473-222478" Subject: Another ME Review ... Here is a review from issue 35 of YOUR FLESH magazine (a music/alternative culture magazine, for the uninitiated), taken without permission <1>. It was generally presented as you find it here, but I'll take responsibility for any additional typos (and my footnotes), but not for the incident involving the giant crab and the balloon man : Robyn Hitchcock Moss Elixir CD The Soft Boys were a charging, twisted rock 'n' roll reptile. Some freakish test tube baby that could've been the result of a back seat roll taken by Syd's Floyd <2> and the Voidoids. They're sound was pinkoid. When it comes to evaluating major careers I tend to favor seemingly democratic group projects. Predictably, Mr. Hitchcock's subsequent solo loco output failed to ignite m' britches unt filet m' soul. It was easy for me to write off what I heard as wimpy, un-adventurous sounds playing a second prickly pear to his sycophant suckling songs of wanton whimsy <3>, intellectual irony and drunken droll detachment poking tortoise-like through his ascot noose of ego. Eh wot? However, Moss Elixir is quite the cure-all tonic. It's a calm, not cool, collection of tunes more carnivorous than I thought him capable. A smart move was dispatching any pretense of being a band member or leader. Sure, quasi-acoustic/sans drums is a weak commercially spawned trend, but it works on this record. Allowing the vocals overwhelming dominion in the mix is a success with the songs so strong and strongly offhand. The cobwebs and strangeness are in the overall vibe, not in Hitchcock's old stove pipe hat King Floyd <4> klever klepermania <5>. In fact I have never before experienced such an emotionally plain-spoken listening trip from this source. Shit's dope and real. And the sonic and musical clarity of the accompanying arrangements are state of the art. Great sounding electric axes, sweet and tart strings and plenty of rhythm that almost makes the few drum mixes obsolete. Tasteful mod jazz sax charts butt in on "De Chirico Street" and Robyn commits some inspired Yardbirds era Pagey wank closing out "You and Oblivion." Funny, this record could be a Jimmie Dale Gilmore work if the esteemed Texan was from suburban London. Moss Elixir is a collection of action paintings depicting still life. Hang it in your kitchen. [Warner Bros] Dave Rick. <1> Hey, we're in a cult - we can just claim Reg appeared to us in a dream and told us to do it. Is that a valid legal defence ? <2> Obligatory Syd reference early on - shaping up well. <3> And the whimsy card has been played. Bonus points awarded for over-use of alliteration. <4> May have overdone it on the Syd front. <5> And a Kinks reference, for Susan. Lots of other interesting music reviews in this issue, including a couple of Peter Jefferies releases, who I am sure someone else here has championed (the esteemed James perhaps?). ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Production From: guambat@juno.com (Total Fat 17 g) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:50:28 EDT Well, it's a bit dated, but there's one band in particular who I always think of when I hear "produced"... ELO In fact, if I remember correctly their studio work was so advanced at the height of their popularity (70's) that they were virtually unable to recreate the sound of their studio work in concert... so they tried to get away with lip-sinc-ing it--and got busted. They had to pay back a lot of money--and they learned their lesson. Sort of a pre "Milli Vanilli" fiasco, except they really did perform the material in studio, unlike the Vanilli dudes who were complete imposters. This doesn't have a lot to do with Robyn, except for the fact that Jeff Lynne, like Robyn, is one of those "direct descendants" of the Beatles... :) The Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:20:14 -0400 From: wpb9826@is2.nyu.edu (Pete Bilderback) Subject: production Russ writes: >In a nutshell, "Production" is what you do with the sound after you've >committed it to tape. You lay down your basic track, and any "souping up" >you do after that (over dubs, fade outs, echo, mixing, whatever) is >production. I'm not an expert on this subject, but this doesn't quite jibe with my understanding of what production is--although it certainly captures a particular aspect of it. Doesn't production also involve the manner in which sounds are committed to tape, as well as the type of tape and taping equipment used, etc.? One can include echo on a live take, or mix a song live-to-tape, or fade a song out live-to-tape (wouldn't that still be production?). I mean doesn't production include such factors as whether one uses an analog or "solid-state" mixer, what sort of microphones are used, position of microphones, etc.? I guess what I'm saying is that I always thought of "production" as something much broader than just "souping the music up". I mean, if I record music straight to a boom-box, it's still "produced", I'm just utilizing a lo-fi production aesthetic. Right? When someone says that they don't like production, I always assume them to literally mean something like "I don't like really slick production" (which is pretty subjective, but I generally know what they mean). When people complain about production, I don't think they're complaining about production as such, so much as the manner in which a particular recording is produced (even if it sounds like they are making a blanket condemnation of production). Pete BTW "Chevy Van" was written by Sammy John. One of the most (unitentionally?) hilarious songs ever written. The ultimate in 70s "laid-back" attitude toward sex. ("We made love in my Chevy Van, and that's alright with me"). How many horny male teenagers bought Chevy Vans in the 70's because of that song? Just to bring things around, this song is available on Rhino's _Have a Nice Day, vol 14_, along with the original of "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas, and Ace's "How Long" featuring lead vocals by Paul Carrack, who also sang lead on Squeeze's "Tempted", which was featured in those hotly debated Burger King commercials. How's that for synchronicty (which is also the name of an album by the Police, which hopefully we won't be discussing anytime soon . . . ) "Let's get some sleep and dream of rock and roll". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:45:07 -0500 From: Hal Brandt CC: fegmaniax@clairseach.ecto.org Subject: viddy well, brother (no RH) lj lindhurst wrote: > > I never really viddy the cini's, but this is > >real horror show! > > what does viddy the cini's mean??? It's a bad Little Alex impression ("A Clockwork Orange"). It means watch the movies. Appy polly loggys for no RH content. Off to the Korova for a moloko-plus, hal ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Another ME Review ... From: guambat@juno.com (Total Fat 17 g) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:44:54 EDT Thanks for copying out the review for us, Norman. I wanted to comment on one statement I found... telling, I suppose: >Sure, quasi-acoustic/sans drums is a weak commercially >spawned trend, but it works on this record. Shows how much the bloke knows about Robyn! At least he did use the word "spawned" instead of something like "generated"... that should get him another point or two. :) The Guambat ------------------------------ From: RIELWJ@sbu.edu Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:42:16 EDT Subject: Trades with hedblade Thanks for the info. I didn't get your RH list so if your still interested, I'd like to see it. The Hitchcock stuff you wanted is only about 15-20 minutes, I think. I have one cassette gobbed full of the items I listed. The HOL session is about 45 minutes, so it's not much and I may take you up on the offer to send you blanks & postage sometime in the near future. I'm a bit iffy on soliciting trades from others on the list because 1) i don't have as much as others, 2)I don't want a be a pest, but you seem very friendly on the subject and I appreciate it. Would you mind listing the Smiths b-sides you have? I'm really more or less interested in all of that and the BB item. I discovered a stack of bootlegs my wife bought me for x-mas last year that I had forgotten about (I keep doing that). Here is my as of today complete list: My Bloody Valentine--Brixton Academy, 4/7/92 Counting crows--London, hollywood, Amsterdam, 1994: Time:77:51 House of Love--Live Radio Sessions, 1990-91? 45:00 Catherine Wheel--Live Radio Session, 1990 45:00 Nirvana--7th Heaven--Holland & others, 1991 75:45 Jesus & Mary Chain--F**K--Various Live Melissa Etheridge--Live, Brooklyn, Ny (Unplugged?) 1995 90:00 Tori Amos--San Juan, Toronto, 1992 Jane's Addiction--the last Show, Honolulu, Hawai, 9/21/91 Nine Inch Nails--Atlanta, 1994 Beatles--Live at Twinckenham Studios, 1968 90:00 " " --Ultra rare tracks Billy Bragg--town & Country Club, 10/91 50:00 (incomplete) Robyn__Radio 1 w/ Kershaw,9/92; Nigel & the Crosses,5/89;WVMS, 4/91; Violet--Bingo handjob tapes 3/14/91, Borderline Club, london (all one 90 min. tape) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:59:07 -0500 From: Lobsterman Subject: deni bonet in hoboken sunday may 4 Fellow Robyn fans, We will be visiting NYC this weekend. I noticed Deni Bonet is playing a gig at the Hoboken festival on Sunday May 4th. Any idea where this is or what time Deni will play? The info at Deni's web site hasn't been updated in awhile, it just says TBA. Anyone else going?? Thanks in advance, -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Driving Aloud" was originally called "Driving to Portland." -Robyn Hitchcock \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: I cheesed it I cheesed the url yesterday regarding the Robyn info on the ICE magazine web page. The correct url is www.icemagazine.com. good luck griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ From: babysnakes@webtv.net (Moribund The Burgermeister) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:56:35 -0500 Subject: The Great Ray Hi people, First of all I'd like to thank those of you who personally welcomed me to the fegamaniax list. Well I made it through my 40th birthday this past weekend and it wasn't too bad at all. Had some family and special friends come over to the house for a celebration. My wife (and my dead wife) bought me the "Invisible Hitchcock" cd for a present. Lots of cool stuff on it. You all probably know that. Here's another thing you probably know, but I don't. On the inside J-card of the "Moss Elixir" cd it says "The Great Ray", is this a reference to Raymond Chandler? Please advise. If this has been disscussed to death, please fell free to e-mail me personally. Thanks to all and take care! --Moribund The Burgermeister ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:07:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Just what IS the Northstar System? People wrote: >Adrian Belew has a thing for Cadillacs. Did a song >with The Bears called "Old Fat Cadillac" and then self-referenced in "Oh >Daddy", a song he sang with his daughter, from Mr. Musichead. Adrian Belew is a huge old-car buff in general. I know from personal experience. >we all know what we're talking about when we say "produced" or >"over-produced". we're talking about having a bunch of different things >that sound like they were injectedinto the song after recording. Like >talking over the singing, and synths on top of guitars, and all that type of >stuff. This brings up a distinction which irks me sometimes. There's a difference between overPRODUCED and overARRANGED. To me, overproduced has a lot more to do with adding a bunch of icky glistening reverb to all the parts, giving the drums that huge sterile thwack...stuff like that. You're talking much more about overARRANGED above. To pick a random example, anyone here like the group Lambchop? Wonderful narcotic-country band on Merge Records. The group has about ten players, tooting everything from clarinet to pedal steel to violin...whatever. You could certainly call their songs overstuffed/overarranged, but you could NEVER call this group overproduced. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:15:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Merchant of Irvine >Interesting, becasue I was born and >raised in Jamestown, NY (not too far from Hershey, really) home of >the 10,000 Maniacs (in more ways than one, I might add). I used to >think of them in the same way;dour, dull, charmless, but I've opened >up to them more in the past couple of years, and it still amazes me >that people down here (I live about 40 miles east, now) all want to >know if I've met her, etc. Haven't met her. I have a good Natalie Merchant story. About 1987, the Maniacs were opening for Squeeze on-campus at my college (UC Irvine). Natalie came up to the station for an interview. I was the music director, but I wasn't quite a fan so I gave the interview duties to someone else. (A month later, I really wished I had interviewed her myself.) Of course, she wasn't really a star yet back then -- even In My Tribe hadn't really hit yet. Anyway, being music director, I had to write recommendations/reviews of dozens and dozens of records. I had listened to In My Tribe rather cursorily, and scrawled on it something like "Great vocals and lyrics, but a wee bit sparkly for me." Meaning yes, OVERPRODUCED (see accompanying threads). Heh. So Natalie is hanging out in the other studio after the interview, and of course as bands tend to do, she picked up her record to see what people had said about her music. So all of a sudden, I hear a cry of "Who's [Eb]???" All the others pointed at me gleefully and said "HIM!!!" So Natalie comes out, all mischievous grins, and starts saying "Sparkly, huh? Sparkly? Sparkly?" and poking me playfully in the ribs. Then she went back to the studio, got a piece of Scotch tape and put it over my mouth. Heh. A cute memory. Yes, Natalie still had a sense of humor back then. ;P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:23:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: The Great Ray > Here's another thing you probably know, but I don't. On the inside > J-card of the "Moss Elixir" cd it says "The Great Ray", is this a > reference to Raymond Chandler? Could be his father, Raymond Hitchcock, who died in '92. ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-Sonoma-om1.om.hp.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 09:32:15 -0700 Subject: Robespierre or not?? Item Subject: cc:Mail Text >>Is this the American Mrs. W, or the English one? > the english one. the american one is (was) just a front so that > dollars could be converted into pounds. Then someone is making a HEFTY profit on the exchange rate!!!!! (Assuming anyone buys anything.) Since there doesn't seem to be much RH discussion going on can everyone please go home tonight and listen to "Night Ride To Trinidad" and give opinions as to the end chant. Woj, how is the RH discog coming along. I'd like to know what I don't have. (Mind you I'm having trouble keeping track of what I do have at the moment!) And finally, still no CA gigs. Looks like I'll be flying home without a cone (sniff). (H) Remember-Terrence Marks is your friend. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Wet Toast Tweezers Subject: Re: Merchant of Irvine On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Eb wrote: > of records. I had listened to In My Tribe rather cursorily, and scrawled on > it something like "Great vocals and lyrics, but a wee bit sparkly for me." > Meaning yes, OVERPRODUCED (see accompanying threads). also, a lot of her stuff is poorly arranged along with poorly produced, IMHO. does anyone else notice this, the weird arrangements, or is it just me? alsoII, along the lines of production is something that should not be taken as a request to start any sort of flame war. that is, brian wilson's first solo album in the 80s (me thinks but i do not actually own it--only listened to it) has some great tunes on it but the production is bad and it is eighties production. even with this terrible production the songs still come through, which is the case with the overproduced PI by bobby hisself. I suppose a lot of dylan stuff has suffered from such afflictions as well--if i actually thought about it, that is. .chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .