From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #72 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 72 Tuesday April 15 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- globetech redux Re: re-make it in your own 'impage Re: re-make it in your own 'impage Subject: Providence '96 date? Tori Amos/Respect Re: A few unrelated RH topics Beautiful Queen Promo Disc Re: gnomic verse Thanks guys!!! Re: Tori Amos/Respect Re: Beautiful Queen Promo Disc Re: Kinks Jones Re: re-make it in your own 'impage Re: Kinks Jones Re: Kinks Jones Re: A few unrelated RH topics Re: re-make it in your own 'impage Re: Kinky Smithers-Davy-Jones A correction and nearly 1% Robyn content! ;) Eye vs. Perspex Island Re: gnomic verse Re: re-make it in your own 'impage Re: A few unrelated RH topics Re: 16 Gorkys Metallic things... Consequences...1% Robyn content fish, sex, death, massage Gorky's Zygotic Mynci Re: Kinks Jones RE: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci Re: Kinky Smithers-Davy-Jones Pop Culture Press Re:July 17 Who are the people in your neighborhood? Reply-To header Magazines rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock Re: Metallic things... The Three 'O' Clock Re: Reply-To header Re: Metallic things... bulldings Presidential gnomic verse Favourite Buildings Again Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock The President Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock Re: A few unrelated RH topics Re: The President Re: The President Re: The President ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:25:02 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: globetech redux thought some of you might be interested in knowing the results of my complaint to demon.co.uk about the little spam incident we had at the end of last week. hats off to demon for a rather stern stance against this kind of abuse! >Subject: unsolicicted e-mail from globetec@mail.netlink.co.uk >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:32:49 +0100 >From: Dom Mitchell > >Thanks very much for your report. This particular incident has >been dealt with as specified by our AUP's (Acceptable Use Policy). >Please report any further violations of our AUP's[1] by any Demon >customer to abuse@demon.net and including full headers. > >[1] http://www.demon.net/connect/aup/ > >-- >Dominic Mitchell, Network Operations, Demon Internet Ltd. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:58:13 -0700 From: meketone@well.com (Ethyl Ketone) Subject: Re: re-make it in your own 'impage At 6:12 PM 4/14/97, Bayard wrote: >Glen-- don't forget sex as a frequent theme for your page. Sex, fish and >death-- what else is there? yeah! Wasps! Flies! Spiders! -------------------------------------------- Carrie Galbraith meketone@well.com "After God, Shakespeare created most." - Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:16:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: re-make it in your own 'impage On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Ethyl Ketone wrote: > At 6:12 PM 4/14/97, Bayard wrote: > >Glen-- don't forget sex as a frequent theme for your page. Sex, fish and > >death-- what else is there? yeah! > > Wasps! Flies! Spiders! Don't forget decay. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:57:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Subject: Providence '96 date? A trading parter of mine has it on his list as 12/5/96 - a master, so it should be pretty reliable. Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:12:14 -0500 > From: Hal Brandt > > Does anyone on the list know the exact date of the Providence, RI > show back in December of '96? Any help would be appreciated. > > hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:09:18 -0400 From: wpb9826@is2.nyu.edu (Pete Bilderback) Subject: Tori Amos/Respect james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) writes: >I was amazed to discover the other day that one M.Seligman played bass on >the devastating first album by the gorgeous and tuneful Tori Amos. Yeah, I >know... most of you probably knew that. Sorry. Are you refering to _Little Earthquakes_ her first solo album, or _Y Kant Tori Read_ her first (and only) album with the band of the same name. _Y Kant Tori Read_ came out on Atlantic in 1988, and is supposedly a dreadful big-hair heavy metal album (if you can believe that--I've never heard it). The Guambat asks: >Leaving the bonus tracks aside--imagine >those first 10 songs! That would have been >Robyn's best CD, I do believe. Any takers? >Anybody disagree? I've made a similar alternate _Respect_ tape for myself, although I wasn't quite so original with the track listing--I just inserted the b-sides into the middle of the CD. I already think _Respect_ is one of Hitchcock's best, but the addition of these songs would have made it a lot stronger. I too am puzzled as to why they were left off. Ironically, I didn't pick up _Respect_ until relatively recently, I was so dissapointed with _PI_ that I didn't bother with it at the time. I definitely think _Respect_ is his best A&M album--the b-sides would have made it even stronger. I don't think I'd rank it ahead of _Underwater Moonlight_, IODoT_, and maybe a few others though. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:29:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: A few unrelated RH topics On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-Sonoma-om1.om.hp.com wrote: > Item Subject: cc:Mail Text > fegs all, > > I got "Eye" at the weekend (Rhino reissue) and I notice that there is > a reference to "Kung Fu Fighting" on the liner notes. What gives? > Was it part of the session, or maybe scheduled for the reissue? No, it was just Robyn being enigmatic again. He did do a cover of "Kung-Fu Fighting" which appears on a compilation CD called "Alvin Lives In Leeds". As far as this feg knows (I may end up standing corrected) it was not part of the session. > I also didn't find the CD made as much impact on first listen as PI > did. Are you on crack? :) > I'm not saying PI is better, but it is pretty cool though that we dig > him on different levels, man. (I think I've been in CA too long. :) ) Like, cosmic :). I've noticed there does seem to be a split in the feg camp as far as this goes. I think everyone knows which side of the fence I'm on, so I won't go into it. > I also got the 3" CD of "Balloon Man". This CD has "GOF Electric" > with, possibly, Andy's worst bassline (sorry Andy). It sounds like he > jammed it on one take and never planned it at all. IT SUCKS. A > worthwhile buy nevertheless. I actually much prefer the electric "GofF". You know you could have just gotten the A&M Greatest Hits. Yeah, if you've got the A&M albums you've got most of it, I know, but it's worth having for that track and "Ruling Class", not to mention "Bright Fresh Flower" and the acoustic "More Than This". Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:33:54 -0400 From: lbiondi@iserver01.ci.buffalo.ny.us (Louie Biondi) Subject: Beautiful Queen Promo Disc Hi-- I'm mostly a lurker on this list and I truly enjoy everyone's insights and knowledge. A couple of days ago I came upon a promo disc of "Beautiful Queen" and 11 tracks written by Dylan recorded at the Borderline in London on May 25, 1996 and was wondering if this has been out awhile or if it's pretty common. Will this see the light of day, other than as a "promo"?? Thankx in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this for me!! Best always, "mad" louie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:13:17 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: gnomic verse >I don't know about that being one of the best lines he's ever >written. I mean, in "The President" alone, there are 3 or 4 great >lines: > >"When I hear the word security, I reach for my shotgun" >"The President is talking to us through a microphone like he's trying >to pack his mother off to an old people's home." >"I can almost hear it raining" >"He's the president of Europe and he's talking to the dead. They're >the only ones who'll listen or believe a word he said." >The 'mother' line is especially interesting. Consider this: Ronald >Reagan was president at the time EOL came out. It's fairly common >knowledge that Ronnie called Nancy "mother". Just a thought. okay.. sorry.. Conservative speaking here! *grin* but i'm not outraged or anything, so no worries.. it could very well be true! in fact, i've often thought that "The President" was probably talking about Mr Reagan... Even so, it's one of my absolute faves, and i agree--it's got the best lines Robyn ever wrote!!! >"In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - >there are Consequences." > --R. G. Ingersoll, 1833 - 1899 also.. i love this!! :) this has got to be the land of the best sig files.. anyways, that's all i really wanted to say. just one of those lame, annoying "Oh, i agree" posts.. *grin* LSDiamond.. who thinks Robyn *is* all that, a bag of chips, and a Slim Jim... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's not unlike escaping mother's womb. God, what a memory. - Phillipe Gaston; Ladyhawke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:13:14 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Thanks guys!!! Thank you to all who helped me find the little jingle Robyn did for KBCO.. Lots of fun!!! :) LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's not unlike escaping mother's womb. God, what a memory. - Phillipe Gaston; Ladyhawke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:46:58 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: Tori Amos/Respect also sprach wpb9826@is2.nyu.edu (Pete Bilderback): > james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) writes: >>I was amazed to discover the other day that one M.Seligman played bass on >>the devastating first album by the gorgeous and tuneful Tori Amos. >Are you refering to _Little Earthquakes_ her first solo album, or _Y Kant >Tori Read_ her first (and only) album with the band of the same name. _little earthquakes_ is the album in question. >_Y Kant Tori Read_ came out on Atlantic in 1988, and is supposedly a dreadful >big-hair heavy metal album (if you can believe that--I've never heard it). well, the album itself was the more pseudo-glitz pop rock that was popular in the late 80s (or at least, was perceived to be popular by atlantic). the band was supposedly more metal, but had broken up by the time the album was recorded and the album's sound was twisted by the record company. i have the album (and there are a couple very promising tunes on it), but i've never heard any live tapes of the band prior to the record's release. another trivia point: matt sorum, later the dummer of guns'n'roses, bashed skins for yktr. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:51:08 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: Beautiful Queen Promo Disc also sprach Louie Biondi: >A couple of days ago I came upon a promo disc >of "Beautiful Queen" and 11 tracks written by Dylan recorded at the >Borderline in London on May 25, 1996 and was wondering if this has been out >awhile or if it's pretty common. Will this see the light of day, other than >as a "promo"?? interesting. the rumor mill indicated that there would be a promotional release of a disc with some tracks from the dylan tribute show on it, but there were only supposed to be seven tracks and none of robyn's originals. seems that plans were changed at some point in time. here is the news as i heard it (copied from the webpage): >Royal Queen Albert and Beautiful Homer, a recording of Robyn's recreation >of Bob Dylan's infamous Manchester Free Trade Hall concert, will be released >to radio in April. It will be a seven-track, promotional-only disc with cover >art by Robyn (a characiture of the Royal Albert Hall as Bob Dylan). does this match the disc that you found, louie? woj ps. if anyone finds an extra copy of this, i'm in the market for it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:13:02 From: Keith Hanlon Subject: Re: Kinks Jones > >In some hip circles it has suddenly become rather fashionable to talk >about the Kinks. Since I knew how wonderful they were all along I find >this very amusing :). > With all due respect Susan, what do you find amusing about this? What's wrong with people discovering the Kinks? Two years ago, I heard the Village Green album for the first time, and my musical-world changed. This is a good thing. Not trying to pick a fight - just wondering what you meant by that. Go easy on me - I think "Eye" is the godhead too! Covering "Sweet Lady Genevieve" this Thursday, Keith ...................................................... Norton's Orchestraville Homepage http://www.frognet.net/~khanlon/Nortons_home ...................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:40:39 -0500 From: Lobsterman Subject: Re: re-make it in your own 'impage >On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Ethyl Ketone wrote: > >> At 6:12 PM 4/14/97, Bayard wrote: >> >Glen-- don't forget sex as a frequent theme for your page. Sex, fish and >> >death-- what else is there? yeah! >> >> Wasps! Flies! Spiders! > >Don't forget decay. And rooms with no doors! And flying pianos! oh, and horses heads. Remember "dysentary fix"? -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Driving Aloud" was originally called "Driving to Portland." -Robyn Hitchcock \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:45:37 -0500 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: Kinks Jones Am I the only one who thinks that subj: line looks like a strange name? Maybe George Jones' perverted brother? Would be played by Dennis Hopper in POSSUM: THE GEORGE JONES STORY? It does explain why the Jam's "Smithers-Jones" is playing in the jukebox in my head right now... btw, read today in ICE that there's gonna be a Jam box set in the U.K. next month, 5 CDs including every official studio release. The article said that Polydor would probably do a U.S. relase later this year. Also it looks like Julian Cope's INTERPRETER is gonna come out in the U.S. later this spring -- I've already shelled out for the import copy, phooey! But I will have listened to it for much longer than those who waited. Anyways... At 09:13 AM 4/14/97 +0000, Keith Hanlon wrote: >> >>In some hip circles it has suddenly become rather fashionable to talk >>about the Kinks. Since I knew how wonderful they were all along I find >>this very amusing :). >> > >With all due respect Susan, what do you find amusing about this? What's >wrong with people discovering the Kinks? Two years ago, I heard the Village >Green album for the first time, and my musical-world changed. This is a >good thing. Not to answer for Susan, but when I read her original post, I was nodding my head in agreement. It just seems like suddenly our long-loved and -neglected Davies Bros. have become, if not the influence de jour, at least as close to fashionable as they've been since, oh, 1982 or so. It seems like people are saying that they were influenced by the Kinks whether they were or not, just because the "in" folks are saying it. Not that I *mind* it -- it is certainly a good thing if some 14-year old decides to buy KINKS KRONIKLES because Damon Albarn says that the Kinks are good -- but it is quite amusing to see something relatively obscure (sure, everyone knows "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night," but aside from "Sunny Afternoon" and "Lola," the Kinks' glory days of 1965-71 remain unknown to the general public) that you've loved forever become trendy. My year of Kinks discovery was 1982 -- I was 15 that May, and it was so fun to buy a NEW (to me) Kinks album every month or so! I was so happy to find a cut-out cassette of MUSWELL HILLBILLIES... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:52:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Kinks Jones On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Keith Hanlon wrote: > >In some hip circles it has suddenly become rather fashionable to talk > >about the Kinks. Since I knew how wonderful they were all along I find > >this very amusing :). > > > > With all due respect Susan, what do you find amusing about this? What's > wrong with people discovering the Kinks? Two years ago, I heard the Village Well, I was talking about ultra-hip trendies who are always latching onto "the NEW THING". You know, the people who are part of "the cocktail nation" and members of the indie-rock orthodoxy brigade who think I am uncool because I don't like whoever their "latest" is. That's what I found funny. Because a year or so ago they would have thought the Kinks were very uncool :). I had one person like this tell me "you are so, like, Classic Rock" one time when I was raving about them. > Not trying to pick a fight - just wondering what you meant by that. Well now you know :). > Go easy > on me - I think "Eye" is the godhead too! You didn't have to add that. I'm not the fractious sort :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: A few unrelated RH topics From: guambat@juno.com (What's a guambat?) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:56:01 EDT On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:29:57 -0500 (CDT) Truman Peyote pondering the question of PI vs. Eye said: >I've noticed there does seem to be a split in the feg camp as far as >this goes. I don't know. I can't imagine trying to disparage one for the sake of the other--they are both quite enjoyable and beautiful in their own right, I do believe. Perspex appeals to my R.E.M. jangly pop fetish, of which Robyn's A&M catalog consistenly delivers... But I think this CD is remarkably deep... ... but I also love the sparse, touching songs from Eye... I don't know if I've heard anyone else voice this opinion, but my favorite is "Sweet Ghost of Light". It is the essence of sublimity. All that to say--well, except for a few Soft Boys thingies and about 1/3 of Gravy Deco--I like everything Robyn does. I guess I even like Wafflehead and Knife... As Robyn said, "We're all different versions of the same thing"... The Guambat ------------------------------ Subject: Re: re-make it in your own 'impage From: guambat@juno.com (What's a guambat?) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:07:22 EDT On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:40:39 -0500 Lobsterman writes: >>On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Ethyl Ketone wrote: >> >>> At 6:12 PM 4/14/97, Bayard wrote: >>> >Glen-- don't forget sex as a frequent theme for your page. Sex, >fish and >>> >death-- what else is there? yeah! >>> >>> Wasps! Flies! Spiders! >> >>Don't forget decay. > >And rooms with no doors! And flying pianos! > >oh, and horses heads. Remember "dysentary fix"? > >-jbj And different types of "men": -Balloon Men -Men who Invent Themselves -Men with Women's Shadows -Vegetable Men -Men with Lightbulb heads -Supermen ok... let's be fair to the women: -Antwomen, whom I Dream about -Insect Mothers -Lady Waters -Living Wives and Dead Wives -Wishing to be Like a Pretty Girl -Beautiful Girls and women royalty: -Veins of the Queen -Queen Elvis -Beautiful Queen -Queen of Eyes -Dark Princesses Guammy Guambat, smilin' away over here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:46:30 -0500 From: Lobsterman Subject: Re: Kinky Smithers-Davy-Jones >>With all due respect Susan, what do you find amusing about this? What's >>wrong with people discovering the Kinks? Two years ago, I heard the Village >>Green album for the first time, and my musical-world changed. This is a >>good thing. > >Not to answer for Susan, but when I read her original post, I was nodding my >head in agreement. It just seems like suddenly our long-loved and >-neglected Davies Bros. have become, if not the influence de jour, at least >as close to fashionable as they've been since, oh, 1982 or so. It seems >like people are saying that they were influenced by the Kinks whether they >were or not, just because the "in" folks are saying it. > >Not that I *mind* it -- it is certainly a good thing if some 14-year old >decides to buy KINKS KRONIKLES because Damon Albarn says that the Kinks are >good -- but it is quite amusing to see something relatively obscure (sure, >everyone knows "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night," but >aside from "Sunny Afternoon" and "Lola," the Kinks' glory days of 1965-71 >remain unknown to the general public) that you've loved forever become trendy. Don't laugh---I may hunt down a kinks cd now after hearing robyn's cover of "waterloo sunset". What a beauty. But that's nothing. The only dylan i ever had heard from my pre-robyn days was Blowin in the wind and Rainy Day Women. Robyn's versions of Dylan songs gave me the impetus to go out and track down those releases. And one of these days i may even buy an incredible string band album! -jbj /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Driving Aloud" was originally called "Driving to Portland." -Robyn Hitchcock \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A correction and nearly 1% Robyn content! ;) The lister formerly known as Jim Moore wrote: << Thanks to Jay Hedblade, that splendid bloke from KXRT, I finally heard the Egyptians tune, "Live-in Years" -- WOW!>> Well, I have to thank The Guambat for such kind words, but I must correct him as well. Susan of the light bulb eyes has already addressed the KXRT issue (our local radio tradition is indeed WXRT), so I'll let that go. The real correction is that I don't work for WXRT! :) I am a radio denizen, for sure, so I assume Guam thought that my Chicago base ment that I worked for them. It's no big deal, really, I just didn't want anyone here thinking that I was posing as an XRT staff member; such activity is frowned upon in the "industry." :) You're now free to talk about Robyn some more. Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:09:55 -0600 From: meponder@bosco.meis.uab.edu (Mark Ponder) Subject: Eye vs. Perspex Island >>I also didn't find the CD made as much impact on first listen as PI >>did. There is some good stuff there but I think it will take time. >>I'm not saying PI is better, but it is pretty cool though that we dig >>him on different levels, man. (I think I've been in CA too long. :) ) Interesting...I've always thought just the opposite. PI, while it didn't bore me, per se, it never struck me as one of the classic RH. Eye still has a great impact on me (I love Robyn's acoustic work). Despite this, I'm on my third cd of PI at this point, having worn one out (if you can imagine) and losing another. Until recently, my candidate for worst album would have to have been the Groovy Decay/Decoy/Deco run. However, I'm doing a slow turn-around. It'll never be a classic, but there are some notable songs on there that don't deserve the usual rap GD gets (basically any song that doesn't talk about kids/young people would make it into the middle of my all-time rankings). (Just an aside, but does the intro into "America" sound like Metalillca's "Enter Sandman" to anyone besides me?) Just call me the rambler... Mark Ponder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:33:50 -0700 From: meketone@well.com (Ethyl Ketone) Subject: Re: gnomic verse At 9:13 PM 4/15/97, LSDiamond wrote: >>"When I hear the word security, I reach for my shotgun" I love this song but this line originally belonged to Winston Churchill or something, right? > okay.. sorry.. Conservative speaking here! *grin* but i'm not >outraged or anything, so no worries.. it could very well be true! in fact, >i've often thought that "The President" was probably talking about Mr >Reagan... Even so, it's one of my absolute faves, and i agree--it's got the >best lines Robyn ever wrote!!! I thought "The President" was definately talking about Mr. Reagan, a man I detest, but hey, I'm one of those rare NATIVE CALIFORNIANS who can remember him as Guv...roadblocks and all that... (My family bases memories on dates - "'06, '33, '71, '89", etc., you know, earthquake years). And remember when Raygun went to Deutschland and made headlines visiting a nazi cemetary? I always thought that was what that song was about. - Carrie -------------------------------------------- Carrie Galbraith meketone@well.com "After God, Shakespeare created most." - Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:33:54 -0700 From: meketone@well.com (Ethyl Ketone) Subject: Re: re-make it in your own 'impage At 11:40 PM 4/14/97, Lobsterman wrote: >oh, and horses heads. Remember "dysentary fix"? > Yikes, I just saw the 25th anniversary "print" of "The Godfather". Stop with the horses heads already!! - C -------------------------------------------- Carrie Galbraith meketone@well.com "After God, Shakespeare created most." - Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:41:17 -0700 From: meketone@well.com (Ethyl Ketone) Subject: Re: A few unrelated RH topics At 11:09 AM 4/14/97, HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-Sonoma-om1.om.hp.com wrote: > I got "Eye" at the weekend (Rhino reissue) and I notice that there is > a reference to "Kung Fu Fighting" on the liner notes. What gives? > Was it part of the session, or maybe scheduled for the reissue? I only know that he does this as an encore tune sometimes, tho' I've only seen it in an acoustic show. Other than bootleg, did it ever get recorded? Be kinda funny if it did. I mean I've seen him do other covers that I liked much more but there is something very perverse about "Kung-fu Fighting" that I like! - Carrie "who had reached her posting limit" Galbraith -------------------------------------------- Carrie Galbraith meketone@well.com "After God, Shakespeare created most." - Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:43:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 16 Gorkys >From: Timothy Reed >Subject: Pop Culture Press CD... > >A few bands - Loud Family, >Yatsura, Million Sellers and the improbably named Gorky's Zygotic Mynci >- stand out enough to make me look for their other recordings. The collection "Introducing Gorky's Zygotic Mynci" released on Mercury last year is an utterly delightful surprise. Very unusual -- it has that same "They MUST be from someplace strange" quality that the Sugarcubes had. GZM is Welsh, if you don't know, and I believe their band name is Gaelic. I heard a Yatsura disc and sorta shrugged it off. >From: Gary Parker > >Also, an oldie I pulled out the other day, "Sixteen Tambourines" by The >Three O'clock. Of interest to Robyn fans if for nothing other than 'My >Cantaloupe Girlfriend' (Someone was looking for songs for a wedding...?). >Of interest to any fans of raving psychedelia. I loved this record when it >came out and I think it holds up well. Anyone know where any of these guys >are these days? They were very young when the started out, if I recall. >Urm, to date myself, anyone know if it has ever been released on cd? Personally, I DON'T think the Three O'Clock records age well, but Michael Quercio of the Three O'Clock now leads Permanent Green Light. I saw the band a month or so ago on the night of the overballyhooed Emitt Rhodes comeback -- they're a lot harsher in sound than 3OC, but unfortunately no less nostalgic. I would assume that Frontier put out 16 Tambourines on CD -- it's probably one of their better-selling releases. Especially since the spectacular Thin White Rope never got their due (a personal axe I love to grind). ;P Eb ------------------------------ From: "The Midnight Fish" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:05:30 -0800 Subject: Metallic things... So sayeth Mark Ponder : > (Just an aside, but does > the intro into "America" sound like Metalillca's "Enter Sandman" to > anyone besides me?) I always thought it sounded like "Come As You Are" by Nirvana. > > Just call me the rambler... Only if you call me the nash ;) Goodnight I Say, --g "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences." --R. G. Ingersoll, 1833 - 1899 ************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ************************* ------------------------------ From: "The Midnight Fish" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:05:31 -0800 Subject: Consequences...1% Robyn content CC: fegmaniax@clairseach.ecto.org So sayeth LSDiamond : > >"In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - > >there are Consequences." > > --R. G. Ingersoll, 1833 - 1899 > > also.. i love this!! :) this has got to be the land of the best > sig files.. If you like the sig file, you should hear the album. I got the quote from the booklet included with _Consequences_, the break-away album by Lol Creme and Kevin Godley. As far as I know, it is the only triple album to have been originally conceived as a 45 RPM single. _Consequences_ was originally intended to be a demonstration record for a nifty little device, which Godley and Creme invented while members of the group 10cc., called the Gizmo, an instrument which resembles a guitar with a small typewriter keyboard placed over the strings. It eventually became a concept album which chronicles man's battle against a rampaging Nature. It is a 6-sided montage of cute pop songs, lush orchestral soundscapes, gizmotronic effects and a cheeky playlet (scripted and performed by the late Peter Cook) about one Mr. Blint who writes a piano concerto to counterbalance Nature's anger. RH content: It's not for everyone, but then again, neither is Robyn. Come to think of it, Robyn would probably like it...especially the Peter Cook bits. Reply to me off-list if you'd like to know more about it. The things we do for art... --g "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences." --R. G. Ingersoll, 1833 - 1899 ************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:59:47 +0200 (METDST) From: James Isaacs Subject: fish, sex, death, massage My web page goes one further. I am shooting for weirdest site around... www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/3499 James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 02:04:39 -0700 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) Subject: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci A RANT ON GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI, WITH SOME MUSING ROBYN CONTENT: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci are from Wales, and are a product of the Welsh- language music scene, which mostly gets ignored in the English press. They're one of the first bands ever to make it out into popularity (of a sort) in the English-speaking world. Their name is English, though the last word is a Welshified spelling of "monkey," and is mostly just nonsense they made up when they were 14. I saw them in Wales at one of their first shows back in 1991, and they were, bar none, the most awful band I ever heard in my life. They couldn't play for shit and they just seemed to be screwing around up on stage. When they don't think about it, they still kind of sound like that; however, in the meantime they've been growing up, and like most teenagers they're very obvious about the influences they've discovered. They *love* Kevin Ayers, for instance. Most of their music is a very deliberate homage to 70s prog psychedelia, except that they tend to change what they're doing every 15 seconds (as you can hear on the single "Merched yn Neud Gwallt eu Gilydd" [Girls Doing Each Others' Hair] from the Robyn Hitchcock issue Pop Culture Press CD). On the other hand, they've got some hardcore and a bit of John Zorn in there as well. Lyrically they're much more deliberately weird than Robyn, but are trying for the same kind of hallucinatory effect. Their songs are not made up of a lot of small incongruous images, as Robyn's are; instead the whole song is either incoherent or builds towards a single bizarre image. Half their stuff is in Welsh and half in English, but their Welsh lyrics are much less poetic and significant, so you're not missing too much if you can't speak the language. (Welsh is not Gaelic, by the way, though the two are distantly related in the same way English is to German.) The only Gorky's CD you'll be able to find in America is the collection INTRODUCING GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI, which is quite good, though it focusses on their singles, which makes them seem even more schizophrenic than usual! Their best album (I think) is their most recent one, BWYD TIME. (A lot of the songs on this one sound like those Roger Waters ballads from MORE and RELICS!) Their previous CD, TATAY, has a long and charming piece called "Yn y Gegin Nos" (In The Night Kitchen) based on the Maurice Sendak children's book. I don't really know where anyone can get Gorky's stuff outside of Wales, though. Like most Sin-Roc-Gymraeg bands they're only available in Welsh shops or through their label, Ankst Records. - David Librik who will rant about Welsh pop ad nauseam P.S. Do I lose hipster cred for admitting that I like early Roger Waters ballads? P.P.S. I have a hard time really recommending Gorky's in the same way I recommend Robyn Hitchcock, because Gorky's is one of those bands who -- well, when they're playing music I like, it's because they're deliberately choosing to be more "commercial." Their natural style, as demonstrated on B-sides and albums, is more dissonant. Robyn, on the other hand, turns out stuff that fits my taste in music exactly without even trying hard; it's only when he works at it that he does things I don't get. So I can enthusiastically recommend Robyn as an artist in general, whereas I have to pick specific Gorky's Zygotic Mynci songs, since I'm unlikely to like everything they toss off. (Take, e.g., their first tape, PATIO.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:20:09 +0200 (METDST) From: James Isaacs Subject: Re: Kinks Jones I discovered the Kinks only recently as well, and I donīt particularly mind Susanīs bemused chuckling, as I feel rather dumb that I had not been with them since birth. I also blame God for this. James (28 in 2 days-please send cash) ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 09:06:55 Subject: RE: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci --- On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 02:04:39 -0700 David Librik wrote: >A RANT ON GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI, WITH SOME MUSING ROBYN CONTENT: > >P.P.S. I have a hard time really recommending Gorky's in the same way > I recommend Robyn Hitchcock, because Gorky's is one of those bands > who -- well, when they're playing music I like, it's because they're > deliberately choosing to be more "commercial." OK, I'll do it then....I recommend everyone buy GZM and if you hate it sell it...I've got a couple of their CDs I picked up in Scotland....they appear on most mixed tapes I crank out... Cheers Jay ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 4/15/97 Spectacle is not reality ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 08:29:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Kinky Smithers-Davy-Jones >Don't laugh---I may hunt down a kinks cd now after hearing robyn's cover of >"waterloo sunset". What a beauty. If you pick up "Something Else By The Kinks" you'll not only get "Waterloo Sunset", you'll also hear the original version of "David Watts," a song covered by The Jam on "All Mod Cons". I assume you enjoy The Jam based on your reference to "Smithers Jones"--one of my favorite Jam tunes. The Jam were one of many English punk-era groups who cited the Kinks as influences. So go ahead--make Susan's Dey & hunt down "Something Else...". >But that's nothing. The only dylan i ever had heard from my pre-robyn days >was Blowin in the wind and Rainy Day Women. Robyn's versions of Dylan >songs gave me the impetus to go out and track down those releases. That borderline tape sure had *me* pullin' the ol' Dylan records off the shelf. I hope some day all of us will feel "amused" when the trendy thing to do is to say you were influenced by Robyn Hitchcock. -rr ------------------------------ From: tanter@econs.umass.edu Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:44:15 -0400 Subject: Pop Culture Press We live in a very musically active area and none of the record shops, book stores or instrument shops have ever heard of this magazine. Where is it published/where is it found? Marcy ------------------------------ From: "ian greaves" Subject: Re:July 17 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:14:56 PDT I called the Cambridge Boat Race(CBR) earlier today to check up on a couple of things for myself about the gig. Basically, the facts are these for anyone interested in going, accord- ing to what I was told, anyway. (1) July 17 is *not* the finalised date. It will happen in July though. (2) No fixed price for tickets as yet, but they will be as low as possible. (3) The CBR is *not* Wembley Arena and the gig is expected to sell out pretty sharpish. (4) As previous mailers have said, tickets don't go on sale until June, but keep nagging them for confirmation of everything listed above. (5) I'll be there. I think it's worth a 200 mile trip. Just. ----- GORKYS are excellent and, now that they're signed to Fontana, it should be easy to find the new LP 'Barafundle' in the UK which is very good indeed. Having seen them live, I can confirm that the shambolic stuff that David Librik mentioned is deliberate. Not sure if it was 5 years ago, though. ----- Any takers for my radio sessions request yesterday? Maybe I should mention it's not just recent Kershaw/Radcliffe sessions I'm after, but any unreleased work at the Beeb basically. Happy to pay if necc. ----- I'm a newcomer, so maybe someone's mentioned it already, but hunt out MOJO 42 for a decent 2-page article by Mark Ellen on the recording of the 'Storefront Hitchcock' film. An interesting read, which I'll contribute if noone else has already. ----- remember you're a womble, Ian --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:14:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Who are the people in your neighborhood? Know how you can use DejaNews to find newsgroups that discuss what you're interested in? and that DN then ranks said ngs depending on which ones seem most appropriate? If you type in "robyn hitchcock" you do get back alt.music.alternative and similar groups with about 60%-80% confidence ratings. But at the top of the list, with 99% confidence, is ... ... ... ... [these aren't ellipses, they're a drumroll] ... ... ... rec.games.video.nintendo. I don't know about you, but I see a great need to have Robyn among the combatants in Mortal Kombat IV. The shirt might be a bit of a challenge for the programmers, depending on the resolution, but that would be amply compensated for by the thrill of hitting D+A for the Crab Throw Decapitation. Oh, and the Hitchcock character wouldn't be impressed when you did a Fatality on him. He'd just become transparent and uninterested in sex. Tracy "if you want to read that short story about Lord Rayden and the toasters you will just have to write me privately" Copeland ------------------------------ From: Aidan Cully Subject: Reply-To header Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Just out of curiosity, is there a reason that the reply-to header defaults to the sender of the message rather than the list? My mailer (elm) doesn't give me a chance to change the To: when I hit reply, it would be nice if this defaulted to the list. On a different note, does anyone have any idea what RH means when he says "buildings are like a disease" ("My Favorite Buildings")? That they grow on you? (the song's been running through my head a lot lately) --aidan ------------------------------ From: bootlegs@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:46:01 -0700 Subject: Magazines Could someone please repost or e-mail me privately the name of the magazine that has the CD of the Robyn cover? Peter ------------------------------ From: "The Midnight Fish" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:46:36 -0800 Subject: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock So sayeth Tracy Aileen Copeland : > I don't know about you, but I see a great need to have Robyn > among the combatants in Mortal Kombat IV. The shirt might be a bit > of a challenge for the programmers, depending on the resolution, but > that would be amply compensated for by the thrill of hitting D+A for > the Crab Throw Decapitation. Oh, and the Hitchcock character > wouldn't be impressed when you did a Fatality on him. He'd just > become transparent and uninterested in sex. Aside from the crabs, Robyn's weapons would include deadly cones (Cone Poisoning???), carnivorous cormorants, victroious squid, and an asbestos suit (remember Betty, he's not fireproof). A villian named Reg, a serpent guarding the gates of wisdom and a giant can opener would be the foes in this game whose object is to help our hero valiantly try to save Gran from the thickening gloom. Sorry...too much caffeine this morning... --g "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences." --R. G. Ingersoll, 1833 - 1899 ************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock will never get past news.groups. What else are we going to put in the rec.games.video.robyn.* hierarchy, after all? And rec.games.video.robyn-hitchcock has an element with more than fourteen letters. r.g.v.r-hitchcock is better, but then you have all those people asking "How do I get past the third level of _Attack the Lusitania!_" and "I've found the penis, what do I do with it?" and you'll be forever referring them to the Raymond Hitchcock FAQ, or maybe the alt.sex.* FAQs. Tracy "vote YES on the rec.food.toast CFV" Copeland ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Metallic things... << > (Just an aside, but does > the intro into "America" sound like Metalillca's "Enter Sandman" to > anyone besides me?) I always thought it sounded like "Come As You Are" by Nirvana.>> Which would then mean, in actuallity, that it sounds like Killing Joke's "Eighties." (Come out of the closet all of you old folks, and back me up on this one!) Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Three 'O' Clock << >Also, an oldie I pulled out the other day, "Sixteen Tambourines" by The >Three O'clock. Anyone know where any of these guys >are these days? They were very young when the started out, if I recall. >> According to the Jason Falkner web site, he was once a member of The Three 'O' Clock. I remember them from my college radio days, but had no idea that Jason Falkner was a member of the band. For those of you unfamilar with Jason Falkner, he was a member of Jellyfish and The Greys, and is now a solo artist. His solo debut from last year, "Jason Falkner Presents Author Unknown" is a beaut. Someone with better info PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Reply-To header Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 12:42:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark On 4/15/97 11:30 AM, Aidan Cully muttered: >On a different note, does anyone have any idea what RH means when he says >"buildings are like a disease" ("My Favorite Buildings")? That they grow >on you? (the song's been running through my head a lot lately) > Since the song uses buildings as a metaphor for our bodies, I suppose he means they're like a disease in the sense that we're stuck with what we have and have to make the best of it. Sculpting statues from toothpaste, -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Beer is the only virtual reality I need." -Leroy Lockhorn ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Metallic things... Well, I heard "enter sandman" onmtv today... yeah, it does sound similar. I think that it's the same chords as the intro to America (G to F), only at twice the tempo...(appx) Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:00:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: bulldings > Aidan Cully muttered: > > >On a different note, does anyone have any idea what RH means when he says > >"buildings are like a disease" ("My Favorite Buildings")? That they grow > >on you? (the song's been running through my head a lot lately) > Tom C replies: > Since the song uses buildings as a metaphor for our bodies, I suppose he > means they're like a disease in the sense that we're stuck with what we > have and have to make the best of it. The 50 inch waist would support this theory, but assuming he didn't just need a rhyme, I'd say buildings are like a disease that infect the landcape-- erupting nastily from mother earth. but that doesn't mean that's what HE thinks. ------------------------------ Subject: Presidential gnomic verse Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 18:19:31 -0000 From: The Great Quail Since no one seemingly has posted a complete answer, I thought I would throw in my twa pfennig: >Re: The President >>"When I hear the word security, I reach for my shotgun" >>"The President is talking to us through a microphone like he's trying >>to pack his mother off to an old people's home." >>"I can almost hear it raining" >>"He's the president of Europe and he's talking to the dead. They're >>the only ones who'll listen or believe a word he said." > >>The 'mother' line is especially interesting. Consider this: Ronald >>Reagan was president at the time EOL came out. It's fairly common >>knowledge that Ronnie called Nancy "mother". Just a thought. This was written after President Reagan's controversial visitation to the Bittberg (?) cemetary in Germany, where he paid "respects" the the graves of dead German soldiers - Nazis, too, if I recall - and his speech was televised for Europe. It was also during this visit that dear old Ron babbled on about Europe in a very patronizing way. To my knowledge, the "Nacy" as "mother" comment may only be a weird manifestation of Oedipal frustrations, but was not really a direct reference - just to Ron's patronizing attitude about Europe in general. (Mitterand has gone on record several times expressing his dismay at the old Cowboy's surreal attitudes about European history and culture.) I can't exactly remember where I heard all this, but I think it was in an interview with RH I read somewhere somewhen, most likely after Reagan was actually elected President but probably before he went back into the movie business and won an Oscar for his portrayal of the aging Strom Thurman in Oliver Stone's "Reagan." The Quail, who is sorry for any spelling errors, it being wee early in the morning as he types this out. ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Subject: Favourite Buildings Again Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 16:33:43 -0700 From: Tom Clark Hi all, I'm surprised at the discrepencies about the meaning of parts of this song. The whole thing is pretty straighforward. It's just another "death is inevitable - we're all just plant food in the end" song that Robyn writes so well. Please join me as I explore some sample lyrics, won't you? My favourite buildings are all falling down feels like I dwell in a different town < My body is falling apart - I don't recognize it anymore > why the hell bother painting them brown when they'll all be torn (put) down in the end < What's the point of getting a tan when your gonna die anyhow? > my favourite buildings are all laid to waste one might as well sculpt a statue from toothpaste < Nothing lasts forever > and one day I could have a fifty inch waste it's all free for my favourite buildings and me < Excessive living takes it's toll > Nobody seems to know how long all of these buildings belong < Just die already - stop getting facelifts and heart transplants! > people get down on your knees buildings are like a disease you could wind up in zoo and most people do < Give up, you're just gonna die in a hospital > That's all, hope I've brightened your day. -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." - Dean Martin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:47:55 -0700 From: meketone@well.com (Ethyl Ketone) Subject: Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock At 11:46 AM 4/15/97, The Midnight Fish wrote: >Aside from the crabs, Robyn's weapons would include deadly cones >(Cone Poisoning???), carnivorous cormorants, victroious squid, and >an asbestos suit (remember Betty, he's not fireproof). A villian >named Reg, a serpent guarding the gates of wisdom and a giant can >opener would be the foes in this game whose object is to help our >hero valiantly try to save Gran from the thickening gloom. Hmmm, how 'bout spiders on the path, statues getting down from their pedestals, a balloon man blowing up, and a level with an eerie "underwater moonlight" palette? Of course, our hero would always have to be on the lookout for the Man with the lightbulb head who will be trying to catch him to turn him on. Carrie "yeah, I hit the caffeinne a little hard today as well" Galbraith -------------------------------------------- Carrie Galbraith meketone@well.com "After God, Shakespeare created most." - Dumas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:31:23 -0700 From: Charles Hanson Subject: The President Regarding the lyrics of "The President".... I seem to recall Robyn mentioning at some point that this song was inspired by a particular speech Reagan gave in the UK during the early, "heroic" phase of his presidency. In the speech, he referred to "dear old Europe" or something along those lines, and the comment struck Robyn as being very much like what one would say to an elderly relative before packing him or her off to an old folks' home. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I read this, but maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about. Charles Hanson hanson2@mail.idt.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:55:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: rec.games.video.robyn.hitchcock On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Ethyl Ketone wrote: > At 11:46 AM 4/15/97, The Midnight Fish wrote: > >Aside from the crabs, Robyn's weapons would include deadly cones > >(Cone Poisoning???), carnivorous cormorants, victroious squid, and > >an asbestos suit (remember Betty, he's not fireproof). A villian > >named Reg, a serpent guarding the gates of wisdom and a giant can > >opener would be the foes in this game whose object is to help our > >hero valiantly try to save Gran from the thickening gloom. > > > Hmmm, how 'bout spiders on the path, statues getting down from > their pedestals, a balloon man blowing up, and a level with an eerie > "underwater moonlight" palette? Of course, our hero would always have to be > on the lookout for the Man with the lightbulb head who will be trying to > catch him to turn him on. He also gets some of his life force deducted if he runs into Clean Steve (who is a giant creature made of quartz, a mineral man if you will), and when this happens, the opening lick from "And So It Goes" starts playing. He gets this life force back if he manages to help Uncle Bernard ease his shorts off, though. Extra bonus points are acquired when he makes it to the Jokerman's cave and answers the question "Who is the walrus?" correctly and receives a copy of the Manchester Trade Union bootleg. Love on ya, Susan who is only a beginner programmer, otherwise she might take this on as a project :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:14:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: A few unrelated RH topics On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, What's a guambat? wrote: > I don't know. I can't imagine trying to disparage one for the sake > of the other--they are both quite enjoyable and beautiful in their > own right, I do believe. Perspex appeals to my R.E.M. jangly Well, I wasn't necessarily trying to imply that this split was hostile. Although it is well known that I really dislike PI, I'm not going to put anyone down for liking it. And I wasn't saying that -everyone- is on one side or t'other. But I have noticed that there are those like me who have very marked preferences for one style or the other. I've even heard some voice the blasphemous opinion that "Eye" would have been better as an Egyptians project :). GofF is my favorite of the A&M records. It's also the earliest one. Coincidence? I think not. It's the one with (I feel) the strongest songwriting and the least producer interference. I'd better run and hide now before the Respect-heads all come after me with flame-throwers :). > ... but I also love the sparse, touching songs from Eye... They're only as sparse as they need to be. As Mozart said in "Amadeus", in response to the Emperor's critique that he had used "too many notes"- "But your majesty, there are exactly as many notes as are required! No more, no less". > I don't > know if I've heard anyone else voice this opinion, but my favorite > is "Sweet Ghost of Light". It is the essence of sublimity. I'm not sure about that. I kind of think he pushed himself a tad too hard vocally on that. It probably would have sounded better if he had sung closer to his natural range. Still, it is a lovely song. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: The President > I seem to recall Robyn mentioning at some point that this song was > inspired by a particular speech Reagan gave in the UK during the early, > "heroic" phase of his presidency. In the speech, he referred to "dear > old Europe" or something along those lines, and the comment struck Robyn > as being very much like what one would say to an elderly relative before > packing him or her off to an old folks' home. > I believe it was inspired by when Reagan gave a speech at the Berlin Wall when he said "Where are you Donuts?" You see, what Reagan said, something like "Ichten Eichten Berliner" does not transalate to what he thought it did. It has something to do with donuts. In an event, it was the speech when he asked Gorbachev to tear down the wall. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:31:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: The President On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Gary Assassin wrote: > I believe it was inspired by when Reagan gave a speech at the Berlin Wall > when he said "Where are you Donuts?" You see, what Reagan said, something > like "Ichten Eichten Berliner" does not transalate to what he thought it > did. It has something to do with donuts. In an event, it was the speech > when he asked Gorbachev to tear down the wall. Did I miss a joke here? I thought Kennedy was the one who said "I am a jelly doughnut". Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The President Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:34:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Saunders" > I believe it was inspired by when Reagan gave a speech at the Berlin Wall > when he said "Where are you Donuts?" You see, what Reagan said, something > like "Ichten Eichten Berliner" does not transalate to what he thought it > did. It has something to do with donuts. In an event, it was the speech > when he asked Gorbachev to tear down the wall. What you're talking about is a speech President Kennedy gave to the people of Berlin, I believe it was when the Russians had seized the railroad from West Germany. The Americans were air-dropping in food. He said, "Ich bin ein Berliner", which he meant to mean, "I am a citizen of Berlin" (metaphorically). In fact, Berliners never refer to themselves as "Berliners", but instead use that term for a type of pastry common to the area. So literally it translates to "I am a jelly donut". They probably knew what he meant in any case. Personally, I don't see what the incident has got to do with "The President". I agree that it would make a good song however. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .