From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #70 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 70 Sunday April 13 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Recommendations (no RH content) Re: Recommendations (no RH content) Re: Recommendations (no RH content) Re: Season's cycle Globaltec Richsticland Theories Re: Richsticland Theories Re: apologies to Susan Re: 97.3FM KBCO Re: danger: falling carrots Robyn on Rifff: repeat broadcast extended! 'hitchcock starts with the song title and fills in the rest' New BOB flexi the days of our lives Demme/Hitchcock Interview: You Can Help!! Re: Globaltec Re: 97.3FM KBCO Re: New BOB flexi Rifff London gig off/BOB on Re: London gig off ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:58:35 -0500 From: "Daniel J. Troy" Subject: Recommendations (no RH content) ------------------------------ Dave Baker said: *The first one is the new album from Pavement, Brighten the Corners. I know it is not an obscure recommendation but I have been totally addicted to playing this album since I got it about two months ago. Apart from a few tracks, it is more laid back than their previous records but still provides a very intense experience. They manage the rare and outstanding feat of displaying intelligence and wit while at the same time producing moving, compassionate music (sound familiar?). I get the impression that some fegs have written them off as another OK 'indi-rawk' band but I feel that the path they are carving now is a *lot closer to Dylan or Barrett at their liquid mercury poetry best. I like the new Pavement for the most part, but Malkmus sings with such ironic detachment that he seems to disown his words the second they leave his mouth. Personally, I hear a heavy Exile on Main Street influence on the new one (lazy riffs, sloppy drums, high-pitched Mick Taylor-like solos). If you like Pavement, you might want to try the new Number One Cup cd, "Wrecked by Lions." By happenstance I played them one right after the other recently and was taken by their similarity. NOC is not as ironic, and their singer, Seth Cohen, really tries to sing. They may rock a tad harder. Ease Back Down and Big Bright Fireball Sun (or something like that) are great songs. dan ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 14:30:19 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Recommendations (no RH content) I haven't written them off as indie-rawk! I am with you 100% here- the new Pavement album is brilliant, and I too am totally addicted to it. (did I dream it, or did I say this already?) In fact, it's been in the #1 slot of my cd player ever since it came out. (no that's not a rating system (but that might be fun too) It's just that I never want to take it out) Other new cd's-- I got the new Morphine album, and it is VERY good, very much like their other stuff. If anyone ever gets a chance to see them live, they are truly awesome. The sax player plays two saxophones at the same time! Also picked up the new Rollins ("Come on in and Burn") and the new Matthew Sweet ("Blue Sky on Mars")-- both are definitely OKAY, but nothing too spectacular. But then aain, everything sounds not-too-spectacular when you listen to it after "Brighten the Corners". A friend loaned me a copy of Imperial Teen, and that is pretty good listening, a nice change of pace for sure. I'm not certain who they sound like exactly-- almost a bit like VU, dare I say. Does anyone know anything about them? (all I've got is a tape copy) (but I didn't pay for it so that's okay) I have finally warmed up to the Pet cd (no title). It's produced by Tori Amos, and it sounds not altogether unlike some very passionate cross between Tori Amos and Tonya Donnelly. The lead singer has a wonderful, husky voice, and she belts out nearly every song emotionally. And speaking of Belly, I seem to recall an interview with Robyn a while back where someone asked him what he is listening to, and he said that he thought the work that Tonya Donnelly was doing with Belly was very interesting (or something like that). But of course we all know that he is listening to "What's the Story Morning Glory" on repeat-play. goin to the dentist! lj ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Recommendations (no RH content) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 12:13:02 -0700 From: Tom Clark lj asked: >A friend loaned me a copy of Imperial Teen, and that is pretty good >listening, a nice change of pace for sure. I'm not certain who they sound >like exactly-- almost a bit like VU, dare I say. Does anyone know anything >about them? (all I've got is a tape copy) (but I didn't pay for it so >that's okay) I bought the CD (and like it) for two reasons. First, I read about them in BAM. When I saw that their drummer was Lynn Perko from Sister Double Happiness I made sure they were put on my "to investigate" list. Then I saw the video for "You're One" and in my humble wisdom I deemed it cool. Ther ya have it. There's a fan page at http://www.inquo.net/~dana/imperialteen/ By the way, homophobes should stay clear of Imperial Teen. (Not that there would be any homophobes on this list...) > >goin to the dentist! lj Ouch! Get the gas!! -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Beer is the only virtual reality I need." -Leroy Lockhorn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 12:09:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Season's cycle Sez Marcy: > > Perspex Island can only be played on a hot summer day with the windows > wide open! > Sez Russ: I always keep the windows closed when I'm playing Perspex Island, thereby lessening the temptation to jump out. -( not a big fan of PI) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:19:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Globaltec Obviously Feg was spammed. Go kill 'em, woj! :) Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:01:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Richsticland Theories >From: wpb9826@is2.nyu.edu (Pete Bilderback) > >Eb then had the temerity to write: >>Re: Cardinal/Davies/Matthews: Adored the Eric Matthews album, liked the >>Cardinal album OK, couldn't warm up to Richard Davies' solo disc (for a >>'60s pop record, it sure is tuneless :( ). > >Well, there's no accounting for taste, but you might reverse your opinion if >you got to see Richard live. I had the good fortune to see one of 2 shows he >did with the Flaming Lips as his back-up band, and the show was >mind-shatteringly good. No such luck. I saw the same bill in Hollywood (along with Timothy Leary, about a week prior to death), and wasn't converted. Loved the Lips, though. Actually, I bought the Cardinal CD at that show. >From: "Baker, David(KWI-C09)" >Subject: Cleaners From VENUS / Game Theory / PLASTICLAND > >I also asked for information about the Sugarplastic when I wanted to >know more about an 80's band called Plasticland. So if anyone has >got any advice on them..... Eek. Big difference. Plasticland's best album (IMO) was the last one, Salon. But I have two others that are pretty good too, one self-titled and another called Wonder Wonderful Wonderland. A lot of that late-'80s Paisley Underground stuff ages horribly, but I still get a kick out of those Plasticland records every now and then. Of course, this is probably pointless testimony, because GOOD LUCK finding those records today. ;) Game Theory? Buy The Big Shot Chronicles and proceed outward until you hit your disinterest point. >From: RxBroome@aol.com > >I think there's a dangerous divergence between "songs" and "sounds" right >now, and it's hurting the overall quality of music at large. Very true. With all due temerity, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:49:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Richsticland Theories On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Eb wrote: > No such luck. I saw the same bill in Hollywood (along with Timothy Leary, > about a week prior to death), and wasn't converted. Loved the Lips, though. > Actually, I bought the Cardinal CD at that show. Gotta disagree with the esteemed Eric B. I like the Davies' album better than any of his other projects OR Eric Matthews' record, for that matter. But that's just my not so humble opinion. > Plasticland records every now and then. Of course, this is probably > pointless testimony, because GOOD LUCK finding those records today. ;) They weren't exactly easy to find THEN either. I had the good fortune to be exposed to them in high school- a girl in my dorm was a big fan (her other favorite band was Phil Collins- go figure :)). > Game Theory? Buy The Big Shot Chronicles and proceed outward until you hit > your disinterest point. The laddie friend played that for me, since my curiosity had been piqued by all the raves they were getting hereabouts, and I have to say I'm not sure that I understand what all the fuss is about. They kinda sounded like a less snazzy version of Squeeze to these ears (flame-armor on:)). Love on ya, Susan I'm seeing Beck tomorrow and YER NOT! HAHAHAHA! :) :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:44:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: apologies to Susan On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, WISNIEWSKI wrote: > I was wandering my local bookstore recently, and saw a paperback of > X-Ray, which I purchased. > I apologize for an earlier remark on the obnoxious tone of a quote you > had entered from it. I now realize it probably did sound kinda snide out of context. But after reading the book you can see that it really wasn't meant as anything more than a gentle poke at Dave and his bizarre antics :). In fact, I was rather surprised at the restraint with which he handled Dave, considering that they've been murderously feuding on and off for years (and I hear Dave wasn't so very kind to Ray in his own book, which I have not read). > Well, that last sentance got pretty incoherent, but Im trying to say > that the book left me with a feeling, not just an idea, that had > something to do with the dignity(part and parcel with the pathos) > of being human. Which isnt usually how you feel after reading > a"stars" bio or autobio. But as you were saying, it really isn't at all a tawdry sort of "star bio". And as for the dignity and pathos of being human, as you put it, well, Mr. Davies has long been a specialist in that department. I definitely feel that that's the main thing I like about his music, and I was delightfully surprised to see this vibe carried over into the book. > Anyway susan, thanks for reminding me of the books existance. And may I > recommend it to all Robyn fans Actually, it is just a -good book-, period, and more than worthy of being recommended to readers in general, not just Kinks fans (although the latter will definitely want to read it). > (Robyn content: Robyns Dad wrote a book which was turned into a movie > for which Ray Davies wrote the soundtrack, which includes the song > "Gods Children" which reaffirms human dignity. "Percy". The irony of that is that the film's producers asked Ray Davies to write a -humorous- song about organ transplants. Good Lord. Just who did they think they were dealing with? Ray Davies is such a Luddite that he's even suspicious of -cameras-. I can't imagine he would ever find anything remotely humorous about organ transplants. Now that I think of it, I'm not sure just who would.......maybe Ween or some other tasteless bunch like that. > I am still curious as to > whether a teen-age Robyn met Davies, and how it might have gone(hmm- > susan, any ideas). I have no idea, but I'd be interested to know. It wouldn't surprise me. Although it could just be that he got autographs (like the young Declan McManus, whose father was the main singer for the Joe Loss Orchestra and got all the Beatles' acetates :)). . I have noticed that Robyn has never mentioned the > Kinks as an influence--even thou I think I can hear it(Susan, care to > take the bait/) Oh I can hear it. Although I wonder if it's not just a matter of having similar influences, and a certain shared sense of quintessential "Englishness". > People like the Jazz Butcher are quite vocal about > their > Kinks jones. And lately Robyns been doing a cover of Waterloo Sunset. > Hmmm... In some hip circles it has suddenly become rather fashionable to talk about the Kinks. Since I knew how wonderful they were all along I find this very amusing :). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 00:16:37 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: 97.3FM KBCO Did anyone ever post the binary WAV file or FTP it anywhere?? i never found out... LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's not unlike escaping mother's womb. God, what a memory. - Phillipe Gaston; Ladyhawke ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:13:18 -0500 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: danger: falling carrots >The videos? Well, the first one I saw was "Madonna of the Wasps," and the >tune is what initially caught my ear. Then the abstract way that the video >was put together really caught my eye. The same went for "One Long Pair of >Eyes." Robyn's videos to this day remain my favorites. The falling >carrots, the bald boy, the old man, all of that... didn't seem to belong, >and yet it fit right in... Videos?? There are videos out there??? *sigh* i hate being lost like this regarding my interests... >________________________________________________ >"There is a fine line between deep thought > and being catatonic." > -Milo, "Chronomaster" i LOVE this line!! *grin* most excellent... oh and i don't know if anyone cares, but i didn't get *carrots* for Easter... but i got *carats*... I'm engaged!!! (so no Robyn content there, but i'm happy, so :PPPPP *grin* ) LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's not unlike escaping mother's womb. God, what a memory. - Phillipe Gaston; Ladyhawke ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 11:42:15 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Robyn on Rifff: repeat broadcast extended! >From: "Larry Sisson (S&T Onsite)" >To: woj@remus.rutgers.edu >Subject: Robyn on Rifff: repeat broadcast extended! >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:24:17 -0700 > >We like Robyn's episode so much, we're keeping it on the air for another >full week, until April 18! But if you can't catch "A Glass Tram" on >Rifff this time around, we'll be broadcasting it again, probably >sometime near the release of the movie he's just made with Jonathan >Demme. >FYI -- > >Larry Sisson >Rifff Artist Relations >The Microsoft Network ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:24:07 -0400 From: BCatron@hrsa.dhhs.gov (Bayard Catron) Subject: 'hitchcock starts with the song title and fills in the rest' Grand Rapids Free Press 30 march 1997 p.G4 by JD Constantine The Baltimore Sun Some songwriters always being composing with the chorus, while others build their tunes over a bass line or beat. But Robyn Hitchcock says he always starts with the song title-- an approach even he admits is slightly odd. "It's as if people were conceived by their heads appearing in the air, and then their bodies grew downward," he says, over the phone from his home in England. "Or as if trees started with leaves, and the n the branches appear, and then the trunk, and the the roots. "I start with the title, and then it gradually fills in backwards." That was clearly the case with "Sinister but She was Happy," the first song from Hitchcock's latest album, "Moss Elixir". Once he had framedthe title in his mind, it was easy for him to conjure the rest of the song's protagonist. "I imagined that the person in this song would have no illusions about positive reinforncement or hoping for the best," he says. Considering that Hitchcock used to live for part of each year in Washington, DC, it's easy for him to imagine him taking his inspiration from some of the capital's denizens. But he says he got the idea from a Belly album. "I was listening to the first Belly album, which i did get in Washington, and I just suddenly thought "Yeah! She was sinister but she was happy." You know? And it was not about Belly. I just suddenly got that feeling, and I've been interpreting it ever since." While Moss Elixir may be typical of Hitchcock's work in its commbination of melodic charm and lyrical whimsy, the way he made the album was a complete departure. For one thing, after spending the better part of two decades with bassist Andy Metcalfe and drummer Morris Windsor (first in the Soft Boys, then later as Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians), the singer is now working utterly band-less. "I had a violin player with me (on my last tour) called Deni Bonet, who plays on the album," he says. "And sometimes, if I want a whole band, I borrow this band called Homer, whose main man, Tim Keegan, also plays on the record. "But career-wise, I'm now on my own. People have had to be borrowed, treated as well as possible and then put back where I found them." Has Hitchcock turned folkie in his old age? "I'm 43*... I think the clock has run out for me as a rock player," he laughs. "Actually, that's probably not true," he adds, reconsidering. "I was never really that much of a rock player. You know, Lou Reed and Neil Young and Iggy Pop can still do it, but they were much more rock-and-roll-hearted than me. "Then again, I think also that I'm able to be straight-ahead in a way that Andy and Morris weren't. I remember, especially in the Soft Boys, I could only keep them interested if we kept changing the time signature every couple of bars. Even though we went on to do things like 'Heaven' and 'So You Think You're in Love,' it wasnever the band at ist best. But when I play with Tim's band, they're quite happy to just riff away on three chords. And there's no shame in that. "So maybe, in a funny way, I am discovering rock and roll quite late." __________________________ * he seems to have forgot he had a birthday last month! Features a photo of a smiling, open mouthed robyn in black shirt with white polka dots (at least in this photo - it's black and white.) ------------------------------ From: KCasey@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 06:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: New BOB flexi Issue #54 of The Bob magazine has Robyn on the cover and includes a flexi with yet another version of "Alright Yeah", this time sung in German. The chorus is pretty funny. "Nein, nein, nein, nein........ Get yours today. KC ------------------------------ From: tews@vcommons.com (Eddie Tews) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 22:06:17 -0700 Subject: the days of our lives yo, i'm flying blind here because i haven't been able to read the digests, the server being down. so please bear with me if i say something really dumb. i was listening to ELIXIR the other day, and it struck me that it's quite a long time into the album before you actually hear robyn's voice. the more i thought about it, the more i decided it was time for me to do something i rarely do: research. so here they are, in descending order, the times into each album that we first hear robyn's voice. i know it's trivial, but it's ROBYN trivia. what i didn't include: the videos, because sitting down to watch a video isn't quite the same as sitting down to listen to a record. the rhino catalog sampler, because i seem to have lost it. the bootlegs, because some wouldn't approve (i PROMISE i have purchased every legitimate recording i could find. often been gouged for them, too.) the singles and ep's, except LIVE DEATH and RAW CUTS which i already did before i decided not to do ep's. and there are probably several which i don't even know about. 1:55 I Often Dream of Trains (Nocturne/Pretty Girl) 1:08 Moss Elixir (Sinister) :45 Gravy Deco (The Rain) :28 Invisible History (Astronomy Domine) :25 Gotta Let This Hen Out! (Pretty Girl) Where Are The Prawns (Wey Wey Hep Uh Hole) :19 '76-'81 (2) (Sandra) :17 Black Snake Diamond Role (The Man Who Invented Himself) :15 The Kershaw Sessions (Brenda's Iron Sledge) Live Death *1 (Clean Steve) :13 Mossy Liquor (Allright, Yeah) :12 Fegmania! (Egyptian Cream) Two Halves For The... (Only The Stones Remain) :11 '76-'81 (1) (Wey Wey Hep Uh Hole) Eye (Cynthia Mask) Groovy Decoy (52 Stations) :10 Groovy Decay (Night Ride To Trinidad) Invisible Hits (Wey Wey Hep Uh Hole) Respect (The Yip Song) Stand Back, Dennis! (Pretty Girl) Sequel Sampler (City of Shame) You & Oblivion (You've Got) :09 Rout of the Clones (Blues in the Dark) :08 Underwater Moonlight (I Wanna Destroy You) :06 Globe of Frogs (Tropical Flesh) :05 Greatest Hits (Balloon Man) :03 Element of Light (If You Were a Priest) :02 Thoth Boys *2 (Egyptian Cream) :01 Portland Arms *3 (Give it to the Soft Boys) :00 A Can of Bees *4 (Give it to the Soft Boys) Interview w/Deidre O'donoghue Invisible Hitchcock (All I Wanna Do) Perspex Island *5 (Oceanside) Spectre Queen Elvis (Madonna of the Wasps) *1--heard talking at :15, singing at 1:23 *2--talking to crew at :02, singing at :44 *3--talking at :01, singing at :23 *4--talking at :00, singing at :18 *5--vocalizing at :00, singing at :14 elements: 34 mean: 15.3 seconds deviation: 22.3 seconds so, apart from TRAINS, which begins with an instrumental, ELIXIR is indeed the longest music-only-beginning album. i don't know when my intuition has ever been so correct. or when it ever will again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:22:42 -0400 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: Demme/Hitchcock Interview: You Can Help!! Hey Fegs! How's it going? A friend of mine is facilitating an interview between Jonathan Demme and Robyn for a magazine called BOMB. She asked me for ideas on how to get the conversation started--some general questions. I'm thinking about it, but meanwhile I thought I'd troll the list for any bright ideas: contact me directly (I'm not a subscriber here anymore). Thanks and godspeed. Paula Carino ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:10:36 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: Globaltec also sprach Truman Peyote : >Obviously Feg was spammed. actually, this is an interesting case. a sales@globaltech.demon.co.uk subbscribed to feg about a month or so ago. at the time, i sent him a short note saying i was concerned that his address was indicative of potential problems and could you please confirm that you joined the list for peaceful purposes. he never replied and i (regretfully) forgot to follow-up. yesterday, he started replying to each note sent to feg, quoting the entire note and attaching a short pointer to his web page. most of you never saw this since he was mailing from globetec@mail.netlink.co.uk. since that address was not subscribed, those notes were sent for me for (dis)approval. however, marcy and a few others saw the notes since they were cc'd directly to them. i've since unsubbed the first address and fired off a complaint to both demon and netlink. those of you who were unfortunate enough to receive copies of the nonsense should feel free to do the same if they were incensed enough by this. send your complaints to postmaster@demon.co.uk and postmaster@netlink.co.uk. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:14:48 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: 97.3FM KBCO also sprach LSDiamond : >Did anyone ever post the binary WAV file or FTP it anywhere?? i never found >out... well, i put a copy of the wav up on the web, but for some reason, it was gettng corrupted during downloads. so, the wav is on the website as a zipfile. use unzip, pkunzip or whatever to unzip it and it comes out fine. the url is . thanks to hollie and bayard for this. woj ------------------------------ From: nicastr@idt.net Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 15:30:24 -0500 Subject: Re: New BOB flexi >Issue #54 of The Bob magazine has Robyn on the cover and includes a flexi >with yet another version of "Alright Yeah", this time sung in German. The >chorus is pretty funny. "Nein, nein, nein, nein........ > >Get yours today. > >KC Does anybody know where to get this mag? Thanks! --Ben ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rifff As someone who has no rifff access (my 386/25 is much too slow...and I have no Internet Explorer) What am I missing? Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy Remember-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 97 11:26:20 BST From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: London gig off/BOB on It looks like the "Time Out" listing for the gig on Tuesday 15th is wrong - I can't find confirmation anywhere else, and the venue still think that the Flaming Stars are playing (although they haven't updated their answering machine message since Thursday...). Sorry if anyone changed travel plans.... The spring 1997 issue of The Bob has arrived in the UK (as previously posted, it has Robyn on the cover and a flexi of "Alright, Yeah (German Version)." I found mine in Rough Trade; Tower or Minus Zero in London usually get copies, otherwise they have an email address: djpublish@aol.com. Ask for the one with "Gotta Let His Brain Out" on the cover. Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 08:00:48 -0400 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Re: London gig off also sprach jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner): >It looks like the "Time Out" listing for the gig on Tuesday 15th >is wrong - I can't find confirmation anywhere else, and the venue >still think that the Flaming Stars are playing my understanding is that the cambridge boat race show was originally scheduled for sometime in april, but postponed to july. perhaps the dingwalls gig has been postponed as well? *shrug* +w ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .