From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #65 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 65 Wednesday April 2 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: The Movies Re: Keef Re: Uncorrected Personality Traits Re: Hey hey Paula Re: tennis balls Re: 97.3FM KBCO Greatest Living Englishman/Production Re: Keef Martin Newell Re: Greatest Living Englishman/Production recommendations Re: Deco, Decay, Decoy Re: recommendations Re: Keef Tribute band??????? Re: Greatest Living Englishman/Production [Fwd: Re: Keef] New York/NJ Fegs Glass Re: recommendations Re: recommendations Re: New York/NJ Fegs Toast! (not very RH-related) Re: recommendations Re: recommendations 100% non-robyn content (paging rex) 100% robyn content Robyn Hitchcock On MSN's Rifff Re: why I skipped logic class ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:14:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: The Movies << > "Dishonesty; there's money here in villainy / You are just your feelings, The Force gives you vertigo / Falling off volcanos and into it" SW geeks will understand that last line. Is someone going to play parent and "ground" me from the list or something? Better yet, maybe Susan should give me a spanking! Indeed I will. Although the spanking would actually be for getting the lyric wrong. It's "if you -adjust- your feelings", I'm pretty sure. >> Alright, in order to save my reputation, I ask you Fegs to please acknowledge the fact that my take on the lyrics to "Devil's Coachman" were indeed correct (according to the lyric booklet, anyway). No, you need not do this on the list, to myself personally, or to Susan- simply do so in your head. Susan received her spanking already. Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:15:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Keef Our very own Guambat wrote: << Funny, but I just remembered this... back in the 80's when I was first introduced to Robyn's music, I got a copy of the "Brenda's Iron Sledge" EP, which has an Egyptians version of "Only the Stones Remain" as a B-side. In my infantile musings, I humorously pondered whether the stones that remain are, indeed, "The Stones"...! In other words, the world has ended, everything is destroyed-- except the Rolling Stones... because they seem to outlast everything else around them... Well, I know that's stupid-- and definitely not what the song is about, but it's fun to think about! >> I thought the very same thing, but more in terms of, "All the old bands are gone, now only The Stones remain." It finally occured to me upon seeing the Two Halves 12" with Stonehenge on the cover, that it wasn't about The Stones at all. Silly me! Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:17:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Uncorrected Personality Traits Fegs, In light of Jim's recent post, I felt compelled to say that Uncorrected Personality Traits will indeed be a great collection for some of the reasons he listed (see copy of letter below). It won't have ALL of our favorite songs, natch, but this GH collection is a damn site closer than the A&M one was for turning on our friends and family. When I stopped to think about it, I realized that comps such as this have been essential for me in the past (Rhino's own compilation of Arthur Lee and Love, "Love Story," is a PRIME example of an artist I *knew* I had to hear, but didn't know where to start or how to get it). In fact, this is exactly what our friends at Rhino do best. This one may not be for *us*, folks, but it will be of value for future generations as I see it. Thank you, Jim, for "showing me the light." Sincerely, Jay << So in essence, Uncorrected Personality Traits will be there at the ready if the film clicks as a damn fine "mixed tape" of many of the era's highlights. The track by track liners by RH offer wonderful hindsight and insight to the songs for those of you who might want to pick it up anyway. (We're discussing releasing it at a mid-line price to help get newcomers in the door, and that'll ease your pain too). The "fanecdotes" that I'm still receiving are really cool and should help convey a telescoped sense of just how much RH's music has meant to a lot of us and how deep and for how long that has gone on. PLEASE SEND MORE, we're still gathering. This CD is also ideal for turning on younger siblings, nephews, nieces, cousins, and friends of any age in a one shot deal. Would you rather hand them the 9 CDs with post-its attached? >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:03:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hey hey Paula >From: Terrence M Marks >Subject: Re: fegbands > >I didn't forget Paula Carino... >I just can't remember her until I receive some material Well, of course, Paula is semi-ineligible, because she recently unsubscribed. HMMPF! ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:54:14 -0500 From: Greg Harris Subject: Re: tennis balls As far as tennis balls are concerned, I'm the one who in his spare time glues the fur back on the tennis balls. I use a jeweller's eyepiece, tweezers, and crazy glue & with all the shaving going on, it ain't easy! On the subject of sports, I think Robyn, being of the UK, would, if anything, be a soccer fan. Which reminds me, on the Newcastle team, there's a player who could pass for Robyn if RH were Belgian. Apologies for forgetting their name, but the person who mentioned the "Dodge-Veg-O-Matic" gets points for the Jonathan Richman reference. JR is a favorite and I'd recommend his ouevre to everyone subscribed to this digest. --Gregorian "I like the way that rolls out." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 22:46:03 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: 97.3FM KBCO Hi all.. haven't been paying attention for the past few days, and was curious about this WAV as well? who's got it & could send it to me? LSDiamond ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:28:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Greatest Living Englishman/Production Hmm... 1) Martin Newell's "The Greatest Living Englishman" is now my fave album of the month. It's GREAT..."Green-Gold Girl of the Summer" is the kind fo song that...I dunno..someone would write it, but I don't know who... It's almost a Donovan, Barret, Beatles, Moody Blues or (dang...I keep thinking that there's this truly GREAT psychedelic band that's just outside my mind...[it's not Traffic, T. Rex, Country Joe and the Fish, or Rain Parade, either...though all of those are good bands] But whoever that song sounds like, it could easily pass for one of their best songs... And the rest of the album rocks also. 2) I feel like trading sampler tapes with people now...I feel that there's so much music that I'm missing, after hearing a few misc. tapes.. I'm mostly into 60's related things, but I'm willing to expand.. 3) Production (as you-all put it, as in layering instruments) isn't in itself a bad thing. A lot of sogns are meant for a complex sound.... Some bands, like The High Llamas or the Beach Boys require production. The High Llamas is 100% production...the work of dozens of session musicians, and it's done well. Not everything is meant to sound like "the perfect live gig." Some of my songs require effects, layered vocals and guitars, flutes, cellos, etc. Production is an alternative to having to clone yourself a few times to get the right sound... (note...you never hear production bashers say things like "Who was that jerk that added the violin and horns to DeChirico Street? This is a Robyn Hitchcock album and I want to hear Hitchcock, not some crap that some dude piled on top of it.." Sorry..had to say it) Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy Remeber-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:28:06 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Keef On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 Hedblade@aol.com wrote: > Our very own Guambat wrote: > In other words, the world has ended, everything is destroyed-- > except the Rolling Stones... because they seem to outlast > everything else around them... Sorta like roaches......... Love on ya, Susan (who couldn't resist and is now ducking for cover) ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:52:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Martin Newell Can't help but notice that the Martin Newell page mentions Robyn Hitchcock a lot. (They even mention fegmaniax...sugoi!) Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy Remeber-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:26:17 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Greatest Living Englishman/Production On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > (note...you never hear production bashers say things like "Who was that > jerk that added the violin and horns to DeChirico Street? This is a Robyn > Hitchcock album and I want to hear Hitchcock, not some crap that some dude > piled on top of it.." Sorry..had to say it) > Of course not. But you might hear us say something about how the Spector "wall of sound" ruined "The Long and Winding Road". Or about the way that Creed Taylor messed up a whole bunch of Wes Montgomery albums with sappy layerings of strings and Muzak-esque flutes. You might also hear us say something about how certain albums or songs seem to have "crap piled on top of it" to hide the fact that what's underneath is, well, crap. Do you think that without that killer production job anything by Snoop Doggy Dog (a pretty mediocre songwriter and rapper by most estimations- I'm not exactly a connoisseur of the genre in question, but I know mediocrity when I hear it) would have gone -anywhere- but the cut out bin? And there you're talking about something where the production actually hides the flaws somewhat. Often it just shows them up. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ From: RIELWJ@sbu.edu Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:28:00 EDT Subject: recommendations In keeping with the thread of recommendations, I highly implore anyone who hasn't already--and I'm assuming many of you have because you're the most rock-musically literate group I know-- to check out the Tall Dwarves/Chris Knox, The Clean (I love that kiwi stuff when I can find it, Bats. 3ds, Bailter Space, Straitjacket Fits--"Melt" is a masterpiece--Cakekitchen are brilliant, The Verlaines). Check out any/all of that if you already havn't, esp. "World of Sand" CK, "Weeville" TD, "Compilation" Clean (anyone hear the recent reuinion lp?), "Ready to Fly" Verlaines, "Hellzapoppin" 3Ds, "Fear of God" Bats,....and I really do like that Space disc. Part Julian Cope, Carter USM, Bowie, techno, Andrew Lloyd Weber, RH type lyric subjects, and a singer whou sounds like Ren Houak. Great stuff. My 2 cents on Belly and Pulp: Belly were okay but never really lived up to what she can do. She wrote some great songs with TM. Her best work is probably still ahead of her. I liked "Different Class" quite a bit as well. It's one that I'll appreciate more in time, though. There definately is a good streak of music coming out of the UK in the last two years. I thought the whole "shoegazer" scene--some of which I liked-- had crapped the whole island out, but then Blur got it together ("Parklife" is undenieably brilliant, and the 2 since are quite good), Suede did some good work, Oasis are (bite my tongue) skilled, yada yada yada... Of course, there is one bloke who's been putting out swell tunes consitently through all the fads and flukes (I don't buy all this talk of a Techno wave of domination. It won't happen). Some fellow called...Rory Hillcock?? (That's another thing I love about this list; I can be mindlessy sycophantic, yet have no fear of being critical). An appeal: been talking with the wife (who isn't actually my wife yet, but may as well be) about our wedding next summer. We were discussing a song list of things we want to play. Now, keeping in mind that her tastes are very mainstream (and that's just fine. We coexist as fairly seperate entities musically)...no. Forget that her tastes are mainstream. The best RH song to play at my wedding (unless he agrees to play at my wedding)? Any ideas? Any first hand experience from any of married folks? Granted, I've got well over a year to think about it but I'll need time to pick out just the right one. Hey, it won't be a proper union without Robyn. It'll have to be anulled and stuff. The only song choice I've made to this point is "I Want You Around" by the Ramones. A damn fine romantic tearjerker if ever there was one. Oh...I don't much care for "Wafflehead" either. It's fine on it's own but feel tacked-on to that particular album. Was the "120 MIN" where he talked about "Feeding the Tree in the proper oriface" the same one, in 1993, where he did "Arms.." & "Yip", as blathered about "the dog has it's feet encased in four cubes of lead, buddy!" I think so. I have that whole show on tape. Elsewhere, Riel ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Deco, Decay, Decoy From: guambat@juno.com (The Guambat) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 11:08:27 EST On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:25:36 +0000 (GMT) Gary Sedgwick writes: >This is probably going to seem a stupid question, but anyway... what >are >the differences between Deco, Decay and Decoy? I've got just about >all >the other major releases now, so one of these is next (on CD). Going through some old mail I came across this--which I don't believe has been answered yet on the list. It's probably better answered by someone else (or possibly on the Feg-FAQ), but I'll give a brief response. To the best of my understanding, Robyn released _Groovy Decay_ in 1982--but was quite disappointed with the results (the production). Later, possibly the next year, _Groovy Decoy_ was released, which was comprised of some alternate takes of some of the same songs as _Decay_, and some stuff that was identical. Later, when Rhino put their reissue series together, it compiled these two--offering every take available from the two releases, plus one bonus track--I think it was "Listening to the Higsons", but I could be mistaken. This is called _Gravy Deco_, and if you're looking to buy it is definitely your best bet. Please, anyone, correct me on the details here. I expect that I've made a few errors. Peace, The Guambat ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:20:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: recommendations 1) Is Chris Knox the same Knox that helped out on BSDR, and recorded Plutonium Express? Or are there multiple Knoxes? 2) > My 2 cents on Belly and Pulp: Belly were okay but never really >lived up to what she can do. She wrote some great songs with TM. Her TM? Wha? SHe had a previous band? Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy Remeber-Jesus is your friend. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: Hackinaway@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:52:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Keef Protecting Susan from harm........but doing a rotten job from laughing so hard ---Vicci ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 17:53:38 -0800 From: Eric the 1/2 a bee Subject: Tribute band??????? I recently went to Devon (S. W. England for those who don't know) for the weekend, and while I was there I ended up in Exeter, in a venue called the Cavern. I looked at the list of bands playing during the month and was surprised to note that there was a band called "Queen Elvis" playing on the 10th of March. Does anyone know anything about this band? They don't happen to be (as is the current vogue in Australia and London) a tribute band? Or are they just a local band? Or is it just a coincidence? Somehow the idea of someone standing up impersonating Robyn seems quite bizarre, yet at the same time strangely appealing! Tony. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Greatest Living Englishman/Production Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 09:50:31 -0800 From: Tom Clark Susan's recent "wall of posts" included: >You might also hear us say something about how certain albums or songs >seem to have "crap piled on top of it" to hide the fact that what's >underneath is, well, crap. Do you think that without that killer >production job anything by Snoop Doggy Dog (a pretty mediocre >songwriter and rapper by most estimations- I'm not exactly a >connoisseur of the genre in question, but I know mediocrity when I hear >it) would have gone -anywhere- but the cut out bin? >And there you're talking about something where the production actually >hides the flaws somewhat. Often it just shows them up. > A recent example is that "Stupid Girl" song by Garbage. You know, the one they're playing on all the alternative stations? (Sorry Susan, I just had to...) I happen to like the record, but only because of the production job. Just listen to all the shit piled up on top of such a worthless song. Can you imagine what the demo sounded like? my $00.02 -tc ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water." - W.C. Fields ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 09:57:01 -0800 From: Deborah L Subject: [Fwd: Re: Keef] Hedblade@aol.com wrote: > > I thought the very same thing, but more in terms of, "All the old bands are > gone, now only The Stones remain." It finally occured to me upon seeing the > Two Halves 12" with Stonehenge on the cover, that it wasn't about The Stones > at all. Silly me! > > Sincerely, > > Jay That's one of the things I've always loved about Robyn: I listen to a song thinking it means one thing, then later hear it again differently. So many levels of interpretation! Keeps my gemini mind busy :-). -Debora ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:59:22 -0500 From: mlang@inch.com (Matrix) Subject: New York/NJ Fegs Just wanted to let you all know that the Favorite Color and former feg Paula Carino's Regular Einstein are playing together at Hotel Galvez on Friday night. This show is free.... Galvez is on Avenue B between 6th and 7th St. Be there.... By the way, I still forward Paula "relevant" (whatever that means) posts. steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 10:37:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Glass Eddie rambled: >russ wanted to talk about "glass." o.k. i suspect everyone loves >Brenda's, Balloon Man, and She Doesn't Exist. actually, I meant the SONG "Glass", not Glass Flesh. I think it's a fine piece of work, worthy of "Airscape" type praise (you know, 'cause it's all serious an' stuff). One of Hitchcock's most overlooked tracks, probably. Anyone remember how it fared in the song poll (if it fared at all)? -russ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:36:51 -0600 (CST) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: recommendations > 2) > My 2 cents on Belly and Pulp: Belly were okay but never really > >lived up to what she can do. She wrote some great songs with TM. Her > > TM? Wha? SHe had a previous band? Just in case this isn't a joke, she played and sang on The Real Ramona by Throwing Muses (and others I'm sure). Surprisingly, not all of the good songs were by Ms. Hersh, who IMO is tough to rival in the world of rock women (maybe Michelle Shocked, Liz Phair, or Sinead O'Connor, but what do I know. Anyone I'm leaving out?). Can't tell a joke, Andy ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:09:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: recommendations >Wow, I remember a thread about this wedding thing a long time ago. I'll get back to you with MY recommendation, but there's so many great ones... > An appeal: been talking with the wife (who isn't actually my wife >yet, but may as well be) about our wedding next summer. We were >discussing a song list of things we want to play. Now, keeping in >mind that her tastes are very mainstream (and that's just fine. We >coexist as fairly seperate entities musically)...no. Forget that >her tastes are mainstream. The best RH song to play at my wedding >(unless he agrees to play at my wedding)? Any ideas? Any first hand >experience from any of married folks? Granted, I've got well over a >year to think about it but I'll need time to pick out just the right >one. Hey, it won't be a proper union without Robyn. It'll have to be >anulled and stuff. The only song choice I've made to this point is "I >Want You Around" by the Ramones. A damn fine romantic tearjerker if >ever there was one. "One should have but a few good friends, but one can never have too many good-looking friends" ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:03:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: New York/NJ Fegs > Just wanted to let you all know that the Favorite Color and former feg > Paula Carino's Regular Einstein are playing together at Hotel Galvez on > Friday night. This show is free.... Galvez is on Avenue B between 6th and > 7th St. Be there.... Cool! I'll be the guy at the Gainesville International Airport trying to bum tickets to this one...(n.b. Large signs that say "I Need a Miracle" work a *lot* better at Grateful Dead concerts than at airports...ah well) Sorry...felt I had to post that. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:12:22 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Toast! (not very RH-related) I lurve the WWW. Found the "Toaster Museum Foundation" Homepage just now. And boy howdy, toast and toasters sure are interesting. It's at . __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://www.edoc.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 691-6235 ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:37:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: recommendations normal@grove.ufl.edu (Terrence M Marks) writes: > 2) > My 2 cents on Belly and Pulp: Belly were okay but never really > >lived up to what she can do. She wrote some great songs with TM. Her > > TM? Wha? SHe had a previous band? Tanya was a founding member of Throwing Muses (and of The Breeders for that matter, but her only lead of any sort on _Pod_ is on "Happiness is a Warm Gun," but anyways) and generally wrote one or two songs per album, before leaving after The Real Ramona tour etc. ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:40:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: recommendations RIELWJ@sbu.edu writes: > The best RH song to play at my wedding > (unless he agrees to play at my wedding)? Any ideas? Any first hand > experience from any of married folks? Granted, I've got well over a > year to think about it but I'll need time to pick out just the right > one. Hey, it won't be a proper union without Robyn. It'll have to be > anulled and stuff. The only song choice I've made to this point is "I > Want You Around" by the Ramones. A damn fine romantic tearjerker if > ever there was one. "beautiful girl" "airscape" "heaven" "ultra unbelievable love" and though it's not robyn, i've come to the conclusion no wedding is complete without The Cure's "Lovesong." especially since it was a wedding present from ole Bob to Mary itself...... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:23:38 -0500 From: mr bean jeans Subject: 100% non-robyn content (paging rex) also sprach riel: > Throwing Muses: House Tornado is a classic. I like everything >they've done to varying degrees, though "University" is kind of blah. i rather like _university_; it was _red heaven_ which left me cold initially. that turned out to be a sleeper in the long run though. after hearing a number of the songs from that album performed live for the past few years, i've come to like it quite a bit more. _house tornado_ (which, at the second to last show the muses did at the ritz a few weeks ago, kristin deemed "the invisible album" and declared that anyone who owns it must be related to them) is also my favorite, but it's a tough call. _the real ramona_ is remarkable, _limbo_ is similar to _university_ but more readily noticeable, and the first album is just plain magnificently intense. _hunkpapa_ is the only one that i never seem to listen to that often. > My 2 cents on Belly and Pulp: Belly were okay but never really >lived up to what she can do. She wrote some great songs with TM. agreed completely about tanya donnelley and her songs for throwing muses. i'm still in utter amazement about how great a song "not too soon" is. easily my favorite song from _the real ramona_ -- and kristin's aren't shabby at all either! i saw belly before their first record was released and i really enjoyed that show. part of it might have been because leslie langston (original bassist for the muses) played that show. in any event, i was looking forward to _star_ muchly and was not disappointed. _king_, though different, kept me satisfied too. i think the flat rockgod production, as noted by Eb, is pretty appropriate to at least some of the songs (but then, what the hell do i know?). woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:09:02 -0500 From: mr bean jeans Subject: 100% robyn content also sprach terry: >(note...you never hear production bashers say things like "Who was that >jerk that added the violin and horns to DeChirico Street? This is a Robyn >Hitchcock album and I want to hear Hitchcock, not some crap that some dude >piled on top of it.." Sorry..had to say it) actually, i recall hearing some comments (both on and off the list/net) that alluded to this opinion. i'd have to go dig through the archives to find the relevant comments from the list, but i'm pretty sure that some folks were not too pleased by some of the production on _moss elixir_. also sprach russ: >actually, I meant the SONG "Glass", not Glass Flesh. I think it's a fine >piece of work, worthy of "Airscape" type praise (you know, 'cause it's all >serious an' stuff). One of Hitchcock's most overlooked tracks, probably. it's not overlooked by me -- easily one of my favorites. the rendition robyn performed on either npr's all things considered or morning edition (forget which one) back around the release of _eye_ is stunningly heartbreaking. >Anyone remember how it fared in the song poll (if it fared at all)? in the june 1996 poll, it placed ninth. here's the top ten for comparison: 1. Airscape (35 points) 2. Queen of Eyes (31 points) 3. I Often Dream of Trains (27 points) 4. (tie) (15 points) Glass Hotel I Used to Say I Love You Insanely Jealous 5. Chinese Bones (13 points) 6. (12 points) Raining Twilight Coast Madonna of the Wasps 7. Queen Elvis (11 1/5 points) 8. (10 points) Driving Aloud Egyptian Cream 9. Glass (9 points) 10. (8 points) Raymond Chandler Evening I Got the Hots also sprach the guambat: >Going through some old mail I came across this--which I don't believe >has been answered yet on the list. It's probably better answered by >someone else (or possibly on the Feg-FAQ), fegfaq. i've always been rather uninterested in writing a faq for fegmaniax and/or robyn hitchcock. personally, i think faq's all-too-often lead to a rtfm (read the effing manual) mentality amongst the old guard of a mailing list or newsgroup. however, i'm not opposed to there being one in existence (and the gr[oo|a]vy dec[oa][r] question would probably be the first question on it), so if there interest in having one and a volunteer (or volunteers) to write it, go for it. i'll even give it a home on the website. >To the best of my understanding, Robyn released _Groovy Decay_ in >1982--but was quite disappointed with the results (the production). to an extent, his mental state at the time and its affect on the album was also disappointing to him. >Later, possibly the next year, _Groovy Decoy_ was released, 1986, actually. >which was comprised >of some alternate takes of some of the same songs as _Decay_, and some >stuff that was identical. the tracks that were substituted on the _decoy_ (how do you work this thing?, the cars she used to drive, it was the night, young people scream, the rain, when i was a kid, and midnight fish) were replaced with demo recordings made with matthew seligman on bass. the others were left alone. also, when the cd was issued, one of the myriad versions of "grooving on a inner plane" was included as a bonus track. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:35:31 -0500 From: mr bean jeans Subject: Robyn Hitchcock On MSN's Rifff thought this might be of general interest: >From: "Nicci Noteboom (S&T Onsite)" >To: "'woj@remus.rutgers.edu'" >Subject: Robyn Hitchcock On MSN's Rifff >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:53:25 -0800 > >Just wanted to let you know we're repeating Robyn's episode, April >4-April 11, with a chat on the April 10. > >Here's a little lowdown on Rifff.... >Each week Rifff features a different artist and his/her/group's original >tune. Users can "play" with composition in two portions of our site. One >is like a music video, the other is like a mixing console. The site also >features at in-depth interview with the artist, part of which of is Real >Audio, and on Thursday night the artist or group chats with users. >Here's our URL: http://rifff.msn.com > >To see our show, people have to be an MSN member. MSN has trial offer of >one month of free unlimited use. A person can either download MSN from >http://setup.msn.com/public/setup/ or order a CD with the needed >software from http://www.msn.com/freemsn/default.asp.) > >Thanks, >Nicci ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:41:05 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: why I skipped logic class On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 RIELWJ@sbu.edu wrote: > This is my first post in a few days and I had to skip my logic class > to do it so I hope it is well recireved. Don't worry, I have a good > attendence record to fall back on... I hope so young man. Remember- Big Sister Is Watching You! > As I was saying, I'll be more concientious in the future to > directly reference postings I respond to but for today bare with me. I'll keep my clothes on, if it's all the same to you. This is a -family- list :). > My Music Taste: I listed some of my favorite albums and someone > responded about my modernism. You're right. I'm modernist to a fault Ok, this was in response to something I wrote, so I'll tackle it: Why brag if you consider it a fault? :) :) Seriously, though, I'm not sure about the word "modernist" in this context. "Modernist" makes sense when you're talking about styles of painting but it sounds rather odd to me when you're dealing with a form of music that didn't even exist as such until the early 1950s or so. Still, there ought to be a term for this. I just don't know what it is. I do know what you mean though. > and unapologetic about it. Mind you, I do love the Beatles (Revolver > is in my top 25, no doubt), Bowie, Dylan, Neil Young, Stones, Van > Morrisson, etc (don't like the Dead, though) and can listen to that > stuff every day, That stuff? You just pulled out some -vastly- different artists there, ya know. Something about that irked me but I'm not sure what. Maybe the sort of throwing them all in together as if they're the same thing (I mean, does the album "Low" sound like something Neil Young would do?). Anyway, you and I seem to think about these things quite differently :). > but I don't find myself pulling out "Harvest" as > much as "Slanted & Enchanted." I never find myself pulling out either one. Just the other day I did find myself pulling out "Paris 1919" though :). > I'm 26 and my music taste has been > formed over the past dozen years So has mine. I'm rising 26 myself. > and the stuff that is mosy > meaningful to me is, for the most part, modern The stuff that's meaningful to me is also modern. All of this stuff is modern :). Not to make too much out of that point but I think it's important. What's meaningful to me is all over the map, decade-wise. I'm pretty sure Buddy Holly made my top 10 artist list in both Feglist artist polls, just to name an example. >. Not that there's > anything wrong with that. Who said there was? :) I was making an observation, not a slam :). > It is pointless to make those lists, but fun. There ia a lot I > neglected: The Vaselines, "Gentlemen"/Afghan Wigs, "Reckoning"/REM, > ... There is a lot we all neglect when making those. Which is as it should be. I think they're most valuable as in indicator of the -kinds- of things a person likes or perhaps an indicator of what their mood is that day :). > The movie: my idea for RH to do a Disney film called "That Darn > Vegetarian Cat" was--Surprise!!--a joke. I know. I was joking back atcha (achoo!). There's no such thing as a vegetarian cat. Everyone knows that. Except for Jacob Lurch. > idea. Will these pre A&M tracks attract a larger audience? I don't > think so. A successful comp has to be widely accessible, or > exhaustive, and lets face it most of these songs will not appeal to > mainstream listeners. That's why he isn't sitting in a pool full of jello and boob-enhanced babes as we speak. I would like to think it has something to do with his being naturally tasteful and a good guy, but it might well be the lack of colored paper. > It is, simply, preaching to the converted. Now, I wouldn't say that. There -are- people who discover RH each and every day. Occasionally someone will ask me if there is a good greatest hits compilation they can buy, and I have to tell them there isn't. This is a bummer. This is what the new comp. is for. Whether there are enough of these people to justify going to the trouble of making this thing is not my call. I suspect there might not be. But frankly the whole enterprise seems to be a labor of love on Rhino's part, mostly, so I think we ought not to gripe -too- much. Though I still would have liked to see another rarities comp. Love on ya, Susan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .