From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #62 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 62 Friday March 28 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Viva Saturn Jeopardy Loop the loop? Re: Jeopardy Belly Re: That Thing You Do Re: Belly crablin's and looking for mr Thom Re: Belly Re: Belly Listening to the Higsons Re: Feg Digest V5 #58 Ravens uncorrected tasty treats Re: Ravens Re: uncorrected tasty treats I'm sitting in a grass hut on the shiny side of the moon... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 97 17:23:54 -0800 From: Spirit_Recordings@sfbayguardian.com (Spirit Recordings) Subject: Viva Saturn james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) wrote: >whoa - back up here a minute... Steve Roback? As in Rain Parade? Tell me more about this Viva Saturn! Just a quick addition to the previous replies to this thread: Viva Saturn released a self-titled five-song vinyl-only EP on Heyday Records in 1989. Spirit released the debut CD "Soundmind" in 1992. Restless Records released the follow-up CD "Brightside" in 1995. IMO, all are worth checking out, although as WOJ suggested, they may take a while to grow on you. A new record for Restless is in the mixing stage. BTW, we still have copies of the "Soundmind" CD available for mail-order, if you're interested. I think that Steven may still have all three for sale through the Viva Saturn web site. (URL not handy. Sorry.) Obligatory Robyn content: Ummm...I gave Robyn a copy of "Soundmind" when it came out ;-) Yours in Feg-dom, Dan (Dan_Poppe@sfbayguardian.com) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent via the Guardian Online. 415.437.3600 N81 or bbs.sfbayguardian.com, 3004 ================================================================================ ------------------------------ From: bootlegs@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:14:30 +0000 Subject: Jeopardy Tonight on Jeopardy, under the heading of animal songs, it said British singer Robyn Hitchcock likes to write songs about these including "Bass" and "Aquarium". I guess someone on Jeopardy is a fan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:58:52 -0500 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Loop the loop? I just got a copy of this in the mail today. On 2/23/97, prior to the Knoxville gig, Robyn stopped in on WUTK-FM and sat for a half hour and played three songs. The first was "Daisy Bomb", the last was "Dark Princess", and the middle was this one. Has anyone heard it live at any of the shows? Know a title? I'm calling it "Loop The Loop" I guess... Many have tried, many have succeeded and failed many have tried, many have succeeded and failed I get to loop the loop the loop I get to loop the loop in a plain brown wrapper I loop the loop the loop It's a tragedy, yes, but the shock isn't there anymore Many have cried, many are expecting to burn Many have cried, many are expecting to burn I get to loop the loop the loop I get to loop the loop, I'm a son of matter I loop the loop the loop Oh love All my trees will be golden and dead for you My love And my leaves will be fallen in bed for you my love and my seeds will be grow out of my head for you my love, oh love Many have tried, many have succeeded and failed many have tried, many have succeeded and failed Oh yeah, I get to loop the loop the loop I get to loop the loop and I try to get fatter I loop the loop the loop Oh love All my trees will be golden and dead for you My love All my trees will grow out of my head for you My love And my loves will be fallen and dead for you My love, oh love Oh love, oh love, oh love, oh love __________________________________________________________ Mike Runion Cocoa, Florida email: mrrunion@tng.net (home) email: Michael.Runion-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov WWW: http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm "A perfect circle of acquaintances and friends, Drink another, coin a phrase..." -REM __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:51:24 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Jeopardy On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 bootlegs@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Tonight on Jeopardy, under the heading of animal songs, it said British > singer Robyn Hitchcock likes to write songs about these including "Bass" > and "Aquarium". I guess someone on Jeopardy is a fan. They must be, to have mentioned these particular song titles. Maybe it's.......a Kihnspiracy :) Love on ya, Susan ducking ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 02:31:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Belly Sorry about posting a mostly irrelevant reccomendation, but... Belly is one of the best bands I've heard since...well, I hear a lot of good bands, so they're the best thing I've heard since Wednesday.. But they're still a great band...I gotta reccomend Star to anyone out there..Screw Nirvana..this is what alternative was meant to be..real music by real people who know how to play their instruments...(sad thing that alternative is known for a couple of lame bands, while good bands who had decent hits get overlooked...)...I could go on on how the songs are either really emotional (Full Moon, Empty Heart or Someone to Die For) or sound great (Gepetto, Feed the Tree) Robyn Content: He did a version of "Feed the Tree" (if anyone has a tape, I will trade for it...), and he said that "There was something there [in the music], but you can't hear Tanya Donnelly [the lead singer/guitarist/writer] through all of the stuff they put on top" (I think that the 'stuff on top' isn't any thicker than the stuff they put on top of any egyptians album...or Moss Elixer, for that matter) note 1: How about making a feglist of reccomended music? (non-rh, ofc) note 2: the entire body of the message is 1 run-on sentence..cool, eh.. I'll be on-topic next time...I'll try.. Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:30:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: That Thing You Do < RH's submission of the title track for the film That Thing >You Do (part of a pile of submissions for the film's title number, >eventually won by that guy from Fountains of Wayne >> I didn't know this bit of info until Jim's post, but I *was* aware that Andy "XTC" Partridge also submitted and was turned down. The track in question was a song called "My Train Is Coming," which was originally submitted years ago for the Phil Collins vehicle (yes, he stared in a movie) called Buster. It was obviously rejected for that as well. The demo for the song, BTW, is GREAT! The question that comes to mind is, how on Earth could Robyn and Andy- two of contemporary music's best interpreters of 60's-esque pop, have been refused? No slight to Adam Schlesinger (who 1) was nominated for an Oscar (tm) for the song and 2) also plays in a great pop combo called Ivy), but excuse me for saying "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???" 'Tis a shame IMHO. Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Belly From: guambat@juno.com (The Guambat) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:00:31 EST On Fri, 28 Mar 1997 02:31:03 -0500 (EST) Terrence M Marks writes: >Sorry about posting a mostly irrelevant reccomendation, but... >Belly is one of the best bands I've heard since...well, I hear a lot >of >good bands, so they're the best thing I've heard since Wednesday.. >But they're still a great band...I gotta reccomend Star to anyone out >there..Screw Nirvana..this is what alternative was meant to be..real >music >by real people who know how to play their instruments...(sad thing >that >alternative is known for a couple of lame bands, while good bands who >had >decent hits get overlooked...)...I could go on on how the songs are >either >really emotional (Full Moon, Empty Heart or Someone to Die For) or >sound >great (Gepetto, Feed the Tree) Yeah, I really liked Belly, too, especially their 2nd album. But it was one of those things that are great at first but then after a lot of listens I just put it away and never listen to it again. I actually traded both CD's in at the used CD store. Anyway, the point of this post was to mention that Belly has broken up. Well, I'm almost certain of it. They just weren't as successful as they had hoped, and I'm pretty sure they've split up. I imagine that we'll be seeing some kind of Tanya Donnelly solo-CD sometime in the near future. Ps. I can see Robyn doing "Feed the Tree", which is IMHO Belly's crowning achievement. See ya, Terry Guambat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:48:11 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: crablin's and looking for mr Thom Not much to say, just wanted to see if there was anyone who could volunteer to make copies of the 'unhatched crablings' tapes.. i have been approached by latecomers from the house of figgy... my current obligations with the 'cradle tree and elsewhere will make helping them out extremely difficult. also, Brian Thom, if you're out there could you please email me? =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:01:01 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Belly On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Terrence M Marks wrote: > there..Screw Nirvana..this is what alternative was meant to be Eh? Some of us LIKE Nirvana, you know. >..real music > by real people who know how to play their instruments Yeah, that Dave Grohl, such a -lousy- drummer :). I will admit Cobain wasn't the world's finest guitarist, but if that's what you're into, go buy some records by Rory Gallagher :). > alternative is known for a couple of lame bands, while good bands who had > decent hits get overlooked...) alternative=top 40. There hasn't been any such thing as "alternative" in years, if there ever was. > think that the 'stuff on top' isn't any thicker than the stuff they put on > top of any egyptians album...or Moss Elixer, for that matter) Huh. Well, Robyn is well known to have expressed the opinion that there was way too much stuff on top on the A&M records, and I'm inclined to agree. Esepcially with "Perspex". -What- was everyone thinking? Don't answer me back, everyone! (Sock it boys!) :) Seriously though, I think those records are extremely overproduced. But then I hate production. Loathe it in fact. Someone should put a warning sign up in studios that says "PLEASE USE PRODUCTION SPARINGLY, IF IT ALL, FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR MUSIC AND YOUR LISTENERS. THANK YOU" (of course there are always the exceptions- if you are Beck, for example, you may feel free to disregard this :)). > note 2: the entire body of the message is 1 run-on sentence..cool, eh.. I noticed. Good job, old boy! Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Belly Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 10:23:24 -0800 From: Tom Clark Instead of going to Daytona Beach for Spring Break, Susan wrote: >Seriously though, I think those records are extremely overproduced. But >then I hate production. Loathe it in fact. Someone should put a warning >sign up in studios that says "PLEASE USE PRODUCTION SPARINGLY, IF IT ALL, >FOR THE GOOD OF YOUR MUSIC AND YOUR LISTENERS. THANK YOU" (of course >there are always the exceptions- if you are Beck, for example, you may >feel free to disregard this :)). The great thing about Beck is that he knows when to turn up all the knobs and when not to. _Odelay_ is FULL ON while _One Foot In The Grave_ is completely on the other end of the spectrum. It seems Robyn was hoodwinked again by a producer. Didn't he remember _Groovy Decay_? A little up the road from the destinations and the towns we know, -tom ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Beer is the only virtual reality I need." -Leroy Lockhorn ------------------------------ From: KCasey@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:42:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Listening to the Higsons While browsing the bins at a used record store, I happened upon a peripheral Robyn treasure, a twelve-inch single of "Gotta Let This Heat Out" by the Higsons. Naturally, I jumped at the chance to hear the inspiration for one of my favorite Robyn tunes. While the song itself isn't going to inspire anyone to start up a Higsons tape tree, I am happy to report that it really does sound like they are saying "Gotta Let This Hen Out". Just thought you might like to know. Kevin Casey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:56:42 -0500 From: Greg Harris Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #58 As far as all the movie talk is concerned, I'd like to put in my two cents. Everyone on the list MUST read "Crash" and then run out and see the movie. I did and have to agree with Susan that it'll probably be the best thing to come out this year, but due to its subject matter, it won't get nominated for anything. On the Coen brothers, my favorite movie by them is easily "Barton Fink". When I first saw it, I left the theater stunned. No other movie has ever affected me that way. "Raising Arizona", "Fargo" & "Blood Simple" are in a tight race for second. Kudos to the person suggesting the animated film based on the RH oeuvre (did I roll the r correctly?). It's been far too long since it was last done and RH's lyrics suit the idea perfectly. As far as the directors are concerned, Cronenberg & Egoyan are probably the best for the "project". But what about Werner Herzog? Or Peter Jackson? --Greg Grooving on an inner plane. Grooving grooving back again. ------------------------------ From: amroth@zetnet.co.uk.NOJUNK (Phil Edwards) Subject: Ravens Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:21:19 GMT Great to hear from jim_neill@rhinorecords.com, but... >The cover >art is really groovy too (assuming RH approves it...he's looking it over in NY >tonight). It's an early 80s shot of a smoking Robyn leaning against a London >Tram in front of Herrods that captures the essence of the period nicely. It's Harrods with an A, and there weren't any trams in London in the early '80s (or '70s, or '60s come to that). Must be a bus. (Subject: is part of a long and involved point about images of London which I'll make some other time. Probably). -- Phil Edwards amroth/at/zetnet.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:05:03 -0500 From: WISNIEWSKI Subject: uncorrected tasty treats -- Kay Lord Wisniewski Wis@Worldnet.Att.Net My taste level must be very uncool. Dare I say I liked The English Patient(Hell, I have no fear, Ill even say I liked dr. Zivago). That I dint even get to see most of the stuff everybodies raving about. and that--when I was 14, I wanted to grow up and *be* KR. However by the time I was 23 I knew-thank God it didnt happen. Genuine and pathetic to the max. Still, this is the man who woke up with the riff to Satisfaction going in his head,. Wasnt perhaps, some part of RH, in some way, at some time, atleast tempted by the idea of wannabe coolness. Which I think might explain the viterpitude of the song. Yeah--he may have thought he was writing about...Kimberly, or whoever---but the Shadow knows---it may have just been a look at one of the less proud parts of himself. Sidenote--once at a RH concert at the old Ritz in NY, I swore I saw charlie Watts in one of the balcony boxes. And as an old stoner, may I point out that the Stones were only as bad, evil, vile etc., as we wanted them to be. And we wanted them to be. K(I keep trying to write a Robyn anecdote, but the first sentance keeps being--"Iwas in therapy again" or "Pathalogically depressed, I..." Not exactly selling points, my guess is) It also occured to me that Queen of Eyes is about ones own egotism (see, mucky is the id, and the superego is the narrators voice, )-- which makes me run on into a rant Ive been meaning to get to ... Which is--do you know why IODOT, Fegmania,Eol(and I would include GoF) are so good. Because they're so achingly pathetically angrey and unhappy and pissed off at the human condition. I like robyn mean,he serves my own purposes best that way. How dare he go off and have meaningfull experiences leading to growth and rejuvination, and something which seems to approximate--good God no--happiness. Its like hes turned heretic. I need him snide and mean and hiding his light under a bad-attitude bushell. Hes so fuckin good at it. And when hes like that then I can listen to him and have it be soooo cathartic. And I can go off cleansed by his misery. It his -job- to bear our sins. So good Good Friday, fellow Fegs. (And just for the record, I will take great satisfaction in abusing anyone who takes any of the above literally) If robyn ever does a Shakespearean movie, may I play Jacques? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:21:14 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Ravens On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Phil Edwards wrote: > It's Harrods with an A, and there weren't any trams in London in the > early '80s (or '70s, or '60s come to that). Must be a bus. Yes, there were. They were called Trams of Old London (tm). Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 15:26:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: uncorrected tasty treats >Wasnt perhaps, some part of RH, in some way, at some time, atleast >tempted by the idea of wannabe coolness. Which I think might explain >the viterpitude of the song. Yeah--he may have thought he was writing >about...Kimberly, or whoever---but the Shadow knows---it may have just >been a look at one of the less proud parts of himself. No way. "Trash" is a scornful look at groupies and groupie mentality--nothing more. I've heard him introduce it (honestly, I believe) as a song about anybody who thinks there's any kind of importance at all to people involved with Rock & Roll...I doubt he's ever thought that about himself. I just can't picture him fawning over, let's say, Roger McGuinn, and saying "can I like, hang out with you?" By the way, I may as well come out and say I don't particularly think it's that great of a song. Just a tad too obvious and basic compared to what we're used to from Mr. H. How 'bout we talk about "Glass" for awhile? -russ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:18:21 -0800 From: Mark Gloster Subject: I'm sitting in a grass hut on the shiny side of the moon... ...shaving tennis balls because there isn't much to do... I can't keep up with you folks, here's another annoying, wide-band posting... RH Movies: I think Tim Burton should direct a partially animated TV miniseries based upon the extended stories of Clean Steve entertwined with Raymond Chandler Evening and maybe Devil's Coachman. I also think that some characters of Dr. Who should be involved, seemingly by accident of walking onto the wrong set. Speaking of which, I thought Robyn could have resurrected the part of Dr. Who for the BBC (if they didn't saddle him with an idiotic companion like Perry). I kinda liked the new Dr. that was on the singular Fox Dr. Who episode. Did anyone see the Simpsons episode when Bart's schoolmates were going to sneak into an R-rated movie and it was "Barton Fink! Barton Fink! Barton Fink!"? I was on the floor. FegSusiax: I will gladly read this channel whether Susan Truman Peyote Dodge Dart Smith Wesson and Ni is the sole poster or not. BTW: Severe Tire Damage is not the twin song of _Jacob Lurch Got Runover and Now He Has a Wafflehead_. Also, dating Scorpios can be a great deal of fun. One simply must pick the right Scorpio. Best CD's: Mine changes almost too much to post, but have you all really listened to _Moss Elixir_? Man, the thing is great- I loved it the first time I heard it and I love listening to it overandover. There have only been two major releases that have turned my head the last year, Beck's effort and Robyn's- but I like everything on Robyn's. Vic Chesnutt's CD is growing on me (I may need to have it surgically removed). _Glass Flesh!_ and _Monday's Lunch_ are insanely inspired small-lable releases. They've gotta be in my top ten, if I'm allowed to be so self-oozing on this channel. Miscellany: I was sitting in a San Jose brew pub with three of my favorite people who will remain nameless, as they may fear the cascading guilt by association, discussing spousal response to Fegmaniacle behavior. My sweety, who had introduced me to Robyn's music in the first place, once told me that fegmaniax was a good place for nerdy people who don't have lives. Uh. I'd hate to think that's us. For the most part we don't write about his probable genital proportionalities, or what kind of socks he wears; instead, we have informative discussions upon the patterns and fabric of his shirts. I mean, we even got resolution on the Mucky/Bucky/Plucky the Pig contraversy. Geez, this keeps us outa' trouble. I something you all some more, -Mark Gloster ps. I still have zillions, zillions I tell you, of those brilliant _Monday's Lunch_ and _Glass Flesh!_ CD's for you all to buy... you are getting sleepy... you're eyes are getting heavy... you are writing a check... you are mailing it... now you're a teapot.... http://www.tigermonkey.com rubrshrk@tigermonkey.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .