From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #31 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 31 Tuesday February 11 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- re: tour dates who's going to baltimore? (mar 5 gig) Glass Flesh CD assorted divertimenta (RH content=damnall) All Hitch, all the time That Glass Fleshy Feeling Re: Still not much RH (one mention) Songs thats wasted Storefront Hitchcock Storefront Hitchcock Saturday's broadcast question Isle Of Wight Cyber-Robyn? Re: Songs thats wasted Re: Songs thats wasted fegmania! Re: Reccomendations/Requests (Other Artists) AIRSCAPE ------------------------------ From: borges@willmar.com Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:53:01 +0000 Subject: re: tour dates Do any of you well-informed fegs have any theories, guesses or real information as to whether or not the current tour will make its way to the Midwest, say, Mpls/St Paul? Should I be keeping my hopes up? BTW, I really do enjoy the list as is...thanks a heap to woj! And, I love the Unhatched Crablings tapes, thanks to Mike H. and all others who made it possible. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: who's going to baltimore? (mar 5 gig) The Mysterious Rob has offered to pick up tickets when he's in balmy. Anyone wanna see RH and tim in a really cool small club? woj? doug? john? rich? mary? gene? caroline? beulah? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:25:09 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: Glass Flesh CD I lost the address!!! i want to get this while it's still $12 if possible, and need to know who to send the bucks to.... *grin* thanks! been working on my own renditions of some stuff.. maybe i'll try for a future one.... LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My heart was broken, my heart was broken Sorrow Sorrow Sorrow Sorrow My heart was broken, my heart was broken You saw it, You claimed it You touched it, you saved it My tears are drying, my tears are drying Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you My tears are drying, my tears are drying Your beauty and kindness Made tears clear my blindness While I'm worth my room on this Earth I will be with you While the Chief puts Sunshine on Leith I'll thank Him for His work And your birth, and my birth. - Sunshine on Leith The Proclaimers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:27:06 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: assorted divertimenta (RH content=damnall) >PS I'm a librarian and RH would get some weird classification like >732.78420750242452 I'm afraid that number is taken by ancient sculptures of fish turning into rabbits from eastern North Dakota. You think I'm kidding, don't you! >P.S. In unrelated news- I've been hearing good things about an Australian >band called The Triffids and want to check them out. Recommendations, >anyone? They're excellent. Their two best are Born Sandy Devotional and Calenture. Calenture is a little more lush, but both have fine songs. They're alternative, with bittersweet songs with occasional countryish and even very mildly gothic tinges. Imagine Nick Cave and Johnny Cash getting together and singing Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom, and you're, erm, very imaginative. And, come to think of it it's probably not that accurate a description of the Triffids. But I'm sure you'll enjoy them anyway. >3) On the same note, can anyone reccomend any good "Piper"-era Pink >Floyd/Marc Bolan/Donovan-style fairytale rock/folk bands? Please? not quite the same style, but you might get something out of early Moody Blues, and also Mike Pinder's solo work, and similarly out of early King Crimson and Yes, and the solo album "Still" by Pete Sinfield. There's also Decameron, who had a lovely album called "First Light" which was probably deleted many centuries ago. You might like Pentangle, too, but that's pushing the folk element far more than the fairytale-psychedelic side. Oh, and I received the GFCD today... Take a bow Bayard, you done us proud! James James Dignan___________________________________ You talk to me Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University As if from a distance ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street And I reply. . . . . . . . . . Dunedin, New Zealand with impressions chosen from another time steam megaphone (03) 455-7807 (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 14:38:25 -0500 From: WISNIEWSKI Subject: All Hitch, all the time -- Kay Lord Wisniewski Wis@Worldnet.Att.Net No Philly! No Philly! His mother a Friend and yet he passes up the Holy Experiment. Fuck. If the movies going to be aimed at oldies like me, the title of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" would bring them in in droves. demme could say it was an hommage. It could open with Robyn obbsessively watching Stop Making Sense--leading to his kidnapping David Byrne and making him get a bad Robyn haircut. Then Robyn would force Byrne to watch him(RH) preform. then... OK, not a good idea. Howabout they do one of those Forrest Gump things with the end of Blow-Up, so that Robyn(looking as Syd like as possible) throws the "tennis ball" back instead of David Hemmings, and then... OK, not a good idea either. Right, this blue London police box lands in Union Square and John Cleese with a moosehead gets out... Ok, Ill shut up. Perhaps others have some ideas? K, the proving she can do an all RH post Cap. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:49:55 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: That Glass Fleshy Feeling Fegz: Please indulge me by allowing me to say that this new Glass Flesh CD totally kicks butt, and it's not just because I personally am on it. The ultra-kleen digital sound alone makes the whole thing worthwhile as far as I'm concerned, but what's more, Bayard has done a fab-o job of arranging/sequencing the tracks, and the graphics are fabulous! It looks a lot better than Robyn's last album, in fact. (Forget Fajita, Caslon Antique rules...) I can't say that any one track particularly stands out above the rest, though, 'cuz they're all good, except that I think I like Vic Chesnutt's version of "She Doesn't Exist" *better than the original.* (Probably because it doesn't have Michael Stipe on it.) Also I like Mark Gloster's version of "Listening to the Higsons" better than the GLTHO version (though in all fairness to RH, maybe I wouldn't be saying that if he -- Robyn, that is -- had done more with it). I'm getting lots of extra copies for everybody I know, so I suggest that everyone hurry up before I cause them all to be gone. I'd like to know from other people who get this CD who they think does the closest Robyn vocal impression? I don't mean to sound immodest, but I think it might actually be me! Am I just imagining that? I mean, I know that really isn't the point and all that, but still. Anyway, I've got a DAT recorder now, so if I could just figure out how to turn down that @^%#*&!! digital reverb and improve my mic technique, maybe my stuff could sound as good as some of the other contributors... --John Hedges And hey, watch what y'all say about Andy Partridge! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:43:21 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Still not much RH (one mention) On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > The Incredible String Band is the main one I can think of, especially the > second album "The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion". Essentially > two Scottish guys, Robin Willaimson and Mike Heron, they went on to make a > lot of albums with a variety of other musicians. 'The Hangman's Beautiful > Daughter' and 'Wee Tam and the Big Huge' are also reckoned to be good. The only one I have is called "Earthspan", and I love it. Exquisite version of "Blackjack Davey", among other things, and the arrangements knock me out. Speaking of their solo careers- on the Cale list recently Mike Heron's "Smiling Men With Bad Reputations" was mentioned. It features Cale and members of the Who performing as "Tommy and the Bijoux". Supposedly Cale was really into the idea of doing an ISB tribute comp., and so was Robyn, but it never seems to have got off the ground (I guess they couldn't stomach the idea of trying to interest, say, Eddie Vedder, or someone else with more commercial wattage:)). > Dr Strangely Strange are a bit of a rip-off of ISB. What an excellent name. I think I should get one of their albums just to leave it lying around. > I haven't actually got much of this stuff, except for two Famous Jug Band > albums ('Chameleon' is the better one). Their songs are folk / > ragtime-based, usually written by Peter Berryman and sung by Jill Johnson. > Great, but not so fairytale-oriented. They are an acoustic band and have a > touch of Andy Partridge about the songs. Is this the band that Norm 'Spirit in the Sky" Greenbaum was in originally? :) Seriously, I know he was in the something "jug band". An old roommate of mine had the record (containing such songwriting triumphs as "The Eggplant That Ate Chicago"). > There were also some studio-based bands working in similar territory, such > as Nirvana (no, not that Nirvana, this was two guys and a psychedelic > record cover) Didn't they end up suing the more recent Nirvana? I thought I read something about that in "Vox" awhile ago. Anyone know how that turned out? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 02:29:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Songs thats wasted I've been thinking about "Luminous Rose", mainly because I recently wrote a song that's very very similar, in that it's slow, dirgelike and repetitive. Technically, there's nothing wrong with either. They're just very very good songs that sound horrible. (Note: Robyn's was much better than mine. Mine was...well, combine the worst bits of Airscape and Luminous Rose...) I think that this may be why some people dislike Globe of Frogs (acoustic)...it's a great song, but it just went astray... Wondering...has this ever happened to any other artists there? ...anyone think that they could do a better version of L. Rose in GF3? Also, Robyn has had some average songe that just kinda sound great.. (ie. Meat, Vegetation and Dimes) Any comments on this, and what causes it? I've got some average songs that could use some pepping up.. (I don't believe that people should put sub-par songs on albums..) Btw, if someone can improve on my tab of Globe of Frogs (acoustic), please do. Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Storefront Hitchcock From: guambat@juno.com (The Guambat) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:59:59 EST Surely, Robyn's "Freeze" will make an appearance on the film... I mean, with the obvious "Stop Making Sense" connection--that "David Byrne or somebody" line would be sweet. But, knowing Robyn, he'd probably change it to something like: "but it should have been Newt Gingrich or somebody" The Guambat Has Spoken!!! ------------------------------ Subject: Storefront Hitchcock From: guambat@juno.com (The Guambat) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:12:27 EST Surely, Robyn's "Freeze" will make an appearance on the film... I mean, with the obvious "Stop Making Sense" connection--that "David Byrne or somebody" line would be sweet. But, knowing Robyn, he'd probably change it to something like: "but it should have been Newt Gingrich or somebody" The Guambat Has Spoken!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Saturday's broadcast question This Feb 15th broadcast, how long does it go on for? I checked out the site and it say that it starts at 4pm PST (that's 7pm for me), but how long will it last? Is it repeated? Is there only on run-through? ========================================================= http://www.li.net/~gsa/index.html This is my signature file, not part of this mail message. ------------------------------ From: jlgr@concentric.net Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:50:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Isle Of Wight Hey fegs. I just found out that the ship that I work on will be docking in Portsmouth England in June, which is a 20 min ferry ride from the Isle of Wight. I'll be in England for 5 days, but I definitly want to make it to the legendary Isle. Er, has anyone ever been there? If anyone could give me some tips about some RH sights, I'd really appreciate it. Did anyone on the list go to that bus tour of the Isle with Robyn? His descriptions of it give me great expectations, I hope they are accurate. I really want to see some of the things (like the cliffs on the south part of the Isle) that he talks about in concert monologue. Anyone know where Robyn Lives and if he would mind me stopping in for tea with a basket of grapes and some ripe apples? dobbs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:04:19 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Cyber-Robyn? On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 woj noted: > ...(they contacted me after robyn recommmended that they check out the > fegMANIA web page)... WOW! Our techno-phobic Mr. H actually recommended a web site!! Does this mean he's been a closet netsurfer all this time? What next? Perhaps he's been a long time subscriber to this mailing list under an assumed name? (And if so, was he for or against off-topic posts?) -N On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cult pop icon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 09:06:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: Songs thats wasted Terry reMarks: >Mine was...well, combine the worst bits of Airscape and >Luminous Rose...) hold the presses..."Airscape" has a "worst bit"? I believe this is the closest thing to a negative word I've ever heard about "Airscape" from this group! Mandatory off topic remark: I wore my grey pajamas last night. -russ ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:14:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Songs thats wasted On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Russ Reynolds wrote: > Terry reMarks: > >Mine was...well, combine the worst bits of Airscape and > >Luminous Rose...) > > hold the presses..."Airscape" has a "worst bit"? I believe this is the > closest thing to a negative word I've ever heard about "Airscape" from this > group! 1) I don't like the drums. I think that the EoL version would be improved by making it slower and with about half the drumming. I also think that it needs more backing vocals (like they do in some live versions). 2) What I *meant* by taking the worst bit was to basically repeat "And in the element of darkness" "and in the element of rain", and so on throughout the whole song. If you write a song well like Airscape, it's great, but half of an Airscape sounds bad... Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 14:43:11 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: fegmania! >I'm not so new to fegmaniax and I still don't know what "feg" means! "what is fegmania? it has come for your sister. also for your husband, that kindly man with something poking out of his head. it has come for your arms, and it will change your concept of hygiene. it may be the sound of a plane crash-landing in a ploughed field, or salad cream being tipped out of an attic window. there are stars, minds and judges - people in scarlet rags that pull frogs out of each others' mouths. FEGMANIA RISES! light pulsing from a bruised sun that eats into tired rugs. light coursing from a swarming moon that careens in frozen exstasy across the sky - naked people oozing on warm mud with the radio tuned to venus. here is music to implode by. here is FEGMANIA! a turnip in a silver box. a dromedary lurching through the house of commons. a bank manager shooting himself in the navel with a water-pistol. a royal baby with permanent amnesia. a vampire at the cenotaph. respectable people with uncontrollable urges, freed only by the disconnection of their hands. a nun writing her name in marmalade on a soldier's leg. one word." ------------------------------ From: stk4007@loki.stockton.edu Subject: Re: Reccomendations/Requests (Other Artists) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 14:54:45 -0500 Hello, there... I would have to agree on "The Village Green Preservation Society" and "Something Else", but as a whole, "Arthur" is a superior effort. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 15:07:17 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: AIRSCAPE none of it sounds bad! this is the tune that converted me. the sultry backwards guitar resonates with the psychedelia of an era i thought long gone. when i hear complaints that robyn has gotten too serious at this point of his career, i can't supress a chuckle (sort of like mumbly or scooby doo if you need a cartoon reference) because i can name a 'serious' bent all through his work. from "human music" to "insanely jealous" to most of his one man show (TRAINS and EYE) albums. by the same token, his goofy aquatic tales of lust and death run throughout as well. there is a bittersweet and tragic beauty of loss and recovery contained within the lyrics here. whether it's light (which represents knowledge or truth), summer (symbolizing youth?), darkness (despair), or laughter (joy) there is a positive slant. the ocean reference that runs throughout the song is very powerful. i think of the idea that the ocean seems to absorb everything. "the pacific has no memory" seems to tie in here. there is a purifying power. somehow the line "the tide recedes upon the bones of something beautiful and drowned" indicates sorrow and regret, but also a sense of survival. summer seems sophomoric with the tiny figures as the world that doesn't stir (or even come close to our level) our sense of drama or importance. the cliffs and clouds perhaps show the difference between our desires and what we have to settle for. the knowledge of ourselves is there, still we can enjoy the moment despite our limitations. even despair sounds beautiful. the starlight (the horoscope calls for pain) is like little bits of reality in the midst of confusion and doubt. there is no perfect lover. "we live as we dream alone". all we have is our illusions and to share them is to disappoint. we do need them though. KEN and in the element of light the sun reflects upon the waves the shore it spangles a child of air is borne upon the wind that blows across the sea and in the element of summer the cliffs suspended in the heat the air in columns the tiny figures of the world are walking underneath your feet underneath your head where angels wander i'll wander too where angels wander over you and in the element of darkness the starlight shimmers on a spray and falls toward me your perfect lover's never there and if she was she wouldn't be neither would you save your illusions for someone else save your illusions for yourself and in the element of laughter the quick explosion and the slow release of heat the tide recedes upon the bones of something beautiful and drowned in color and in jade where angels hover i'll hover too where angels hover over you ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .