From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #21 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 21 Friday January 31 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Rude? Re: How big is yours? Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD RE: Favorite Dylan? Re: Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD Re: Bawb Re: Grooving On An Inner Plane robyn at cat's cradle Re: robyn tour dates Re: Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD Re: How big is yours? Re: Rude? Re: Deuling Dylans Re: How big is yours? okay, for sure.. Re: tricky robyn reference? Re: Favorite Dylan? Re: Rude? Re: How big is yours? - also a request.. Greatest/Hits Re: Greatest/Hits Re: Favorite Dylan? Re: Favourite Dylan Re: Favorite Dylan? Syd, Dylan, etc. Greatest Hits favorites disc Re: Deuling Dylans Re: tricky robyn reference? Re: favorites disc Airscape Re: How big is yours? [buying things before you can play them] Re: favorites disc Re: Syd, Dylan, etc. Re: favorites disc Re: How big is yours? [buying things before you can play them] Another Robyn date pops up! Re: Syd, Dylan, etc. To all NYC Fegs and the people who love them (no RH content) Please, please, please... Greatest/Hits Robyn Hitchcock in MD 3/5/97 @ 8 by 10 club (fwd) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:35:21 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Rude? On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 Hedblade@AOL.COM wrote: > Hey, you big FEGS! > > << Next night I saw Robyn, though, and it was the first I'd seen him with > Deni. Opening line (while we were abusing him over his shirt) was "welcome > to 1969...hope you've all been born." >> I wasn't born yet, in fact :). > Those born AFTER '69 are even less likely to "get it," if you consider that > his airplay has been little since "Balloon Man." Oh REALLY? Take a gander at my cd collection sometime. I defy anyone to say I don't "get it" :). In fact, I'd say I "get it" a lot better than my father does, and he's roughly of Robyn's generation. > Alternative / Whatever they call it this week, wouldn't even THINK of > touching "Alright Yeah" when they've got a new Bush record to drive into the > ground. Is it not safe to assume that those born after '69 are most likely > to listen to a Modern Rock station (it is their prime demographic, after all, > and stats prove they're hitting the mark on that audience in spades)? With > that in mind, I'm certain there are several Fegs here that are younger than > myself. Yup. Me for one. Don't you DARE imply that I like Bush. I'm calling a lawyer! Remember too, that I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE :). And stop with that word demographic, it makes me ill. > 1) Do you find it kind of rude or at least a tad condescending? Yes, rather. I hate being lumped in with idiots just because they're the same age I am. It's not MY fault :). > 2) Why do you think he does this? Dunno. Maybe he feels old? Perhaps he looks around him and sees mostly older fans, and draws the conclusion that younger people don't care for him. > 3) Shouldn't it please him? Why should it please or displease him? :) > 4) Is it just me? No, I don't think so. Thing is though, that whether or not Robyn thinks I "get it" doesn't exactly keep me awake nights :). > Asbestos in tact. Flame at will. Asbestos in memoriam. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:00:25 +0100 (CET) From: James Isaacs Subject: Re: How big is yours? On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Russ Reynolds wrote: things about albums I bought my first album in 1978, and it was "Abbey Road". I was probably 9. As of now, I have maybe 20 albums, all by the Beatles or Paul McCartney, except for "Groovy Decoy". I have sold most of my albums, and a huge majority of my CDs. I would have close to 50 albums and 1000 CDs,plus uncountable cassetes, if the looming poverty of a student/audiophile had not been close at hand. Still, I have what I need. James ------------------------------ From: NJARMAN@frmail.frco.com Subject: Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:11:52 -0600 Imagine that you have the ability to create your own CD's. That you can select favourite tracks from the CD's that you have (See my list below) and drag and drop them over to your new 74 minutes CD. No bootleg or rare tape/vinyl stuff allowed. (sorry) For arguments sake let's use the following widely available list of CD's (the new rhino versions if you like - forgive me if I have named the albums wrongly, it was all from memory. Did I forget any?) A Can of Bees Invisible History Underwater Moonlight Soft Boys 79-81 Ryko compilation Black Snake Diamond Role Fegmania I Often Dream of Trains Element of Light Invisible Hitchcock Gotta Let This Hen Out Gravy Deco (The complete groovey decay/decoy sessions) Globe of Frogs Perspex Island Queen Elvis Respect The Kershaw Sessions You & Oblivion Moss Elixir Robyn Hitchcock Greatest Hits Now the problem as I see it is this, you want to create the ultimate Robyn Hitchcock CD, that when given to an uninitiated friend will instantly convert them. Or to put it another way, if Warner Brothers released it, it would send Robyn straight into the charts. However as we all know, some of Robyn's best songs take a little listening to before you realise what a fantastic song it is. So what I propose is this. Design a track listing for two CD's. One that is instantly commercial, sure fire hits that would convert somebody instantly, and a second with your actual favourites, that you would most want to have together on one CD. Remember your time limit of 74 minutes , and go for it! Why am I asking? Well it's coming up to a few birthdays in the family, and this chap at work was telling me how they had just bought one of those CD writer drives for making CD-ROMS. Thanks for your help, Nigel Jarman ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(PIN-C09)" Subject: RE: Favorite Dylan? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:03:15 -0500 Blonde on Blonde and Highway 61 Revisited seem the obvious choices. They represent Dylan at the absolute peak of his powers, especially musically (Blood On The Tracks is perhaps more rewarding lyrically, if a little less poetic than his mid-sixties lyrics). These are my two favourite Dylan albums and any poll of The Hundred Greatest Albums of All-Time' is likely to figure these two in the top ten. Of course, the Dylan fanatics among us may have slightly more obscure favourites. Dave. ------------------------------ From: NJARMAN@frmail.frco.com Subject: Re: Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:44:05 -0600 I think it should be packaged as a double CD CD One called 'Greatest' which is the compilation of your favourite. CD Two called 'Hits' which is the commercial, conversion material. I'll post my results, after seeing a few of yours. Cheers, Nigel Jarman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:58:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bawb >From Dodging Susan: > >Actually, I would argue that Robyn is in fact DYLAN'S successor much more >than he is Syd's. Nah, that's Elvis Costello. :) >I just can't say enough about "Desire". One of my all-time >favorite records EVER. I like the songs on Desire a lot, but I've always been deeply turned off by that cheesy "gypsy violin." Just an icky distraction for me -- it also strongly dates the album as a pure '70s creation. IMO, one of Dylan's worst flaws is his lack of vision regarding backing musicians. He lucked out with The Band, but otherwise he has made lots of poor/indifferent choices (heck, he even stooped to making a record with the Grateful Dead...heh heh, flame away). The violinist on Desire (Scarlet Rivera) was one of those bad choices, IMO. Ditto the organist on my favorite post-'60s Dylan album, Blood On The Tracks -- those droning chords on "Lily, Rosemary & the Jack of Hearts" just about ruin that song for me. With a few isolated exceptions, post-'60s speaking, Dylan just seems to grab whoever's already recording in the studio complex down the hall. Few of his later-period musicians (and even PRODUCERS, Arthur Baker and Daniel Lanois aside) have striking styles -- they just seem to clunk away behind him as hired-gun servants. >From: RxBroome@aol.com > >The only comparably drastic abrupt shifts in vocal style I can think of are >as follows: >1) Bob Dylan's mysterious and brief vocal transformation on "Nashville >Skyline", and >2) Bernard Summer's shift from sounding exactly like Ian Curtis into sounding >like himself. I don't know for sure because I haven't heard it myself, but I've read that David Sylvian's voice in the earliest version of Japan sounds nothing at all like it does today. >Well, what kills me about Chilton is that as "falling apart" as "Sister >Lovers" is, he got >even further into it later on. I've only heard selected tracks from "Like >Flies on Sherbert (sic)", but it seems to be an even more ragged document of >self-hate that Big Star's 3rd. Well, actually, I was speaking just as much about Radio City, if not moreso. On Sister Lovers, the songs really ARE falling apart. On Radio City, the "falling apart" seems like just part of a polished songwriting style (or to me at least, anyway). I mean, listen to "O My Soul." Where the HELL is that melody going? :) >From: mlang@inch.com (Matrix) > >Essential Dylan Records: >1. Blonde on Blonde >2. Bringing It All Back Home >3. Freewheelin' >4. Highway 61 Revisited >5. Blood on the Tracks >6. John Wesley Harding >7. Another Side >8. Desire >9. The Times They are a Changin' >10. Nashville Skyline Well, what about The Bootleg Series box and The Basement Tapes??? TOTALLY essential. Also (as Robyn knows), the famous 1966 Royal Albert Hall bootleg (long rumored to be released as "The Bootleg Series, Volume Two") is pretty much mandatory. The RAH version of "Rolling Stone" is just about the most emotionally devastating piece of music I can name. >From: "The TA formerly known as Chris." > >now might be a good time to write the [film] reviews before they are written. >my estimation of the content is that it will include the >following references... > mention of syd barrett > and of robyn as his successor I think you're seriously overestimating the musical knowledge of film reviewers. I expect vague, neophyte descriptions like "surreal imagery," "tuneful folk-pop," "rambling storytelling tangents," etc. >From: Gary V Parker > >I think someone mentioned Blonde on Blonde? Do get it right away. After >first hearing, program your player to skip the first track.... What's wrong with "Rainy Day Women"??? :( > _Under the Red Sky_ is a deceptively simple record that is regarded with >derision by some Dylanites, but there is a lot there for the dedicated >listener. Sorry, but this dedicated listener thinks that's at the very bottom of Dylan's catalog, along with Down In The Groove, Knocked Out Loaded, Self-Portrait, Street Legal, Dylan and a couple of the live albums. And actually, I probably like Under The Red Sky less than any of those. Nice title too -- did Dylan even KNOW about the U2 live album? ;) >From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) > >I think the all-blues-covers >collection that Bob Dylan put out several years ago, the one with >"World Gone Wrong", is amazing. In case you don't know, Patti Smith has been pushing this album MERCILESSLY on her recent tour. I saw her twice, months apart, and both times she begged the audience to go out and buy it. I think she may be performing a song off it too, but I forget which one. And of course, Dylan's "Wicked Messenger" appears on her excellent (if dirgy) new album Gone Again. >From: Russ Reynolds > >Is there anyone who's *first* LP or CD purchase was a Hitchcock recording? >10th? 50th? My first Robyn purchase (Element Of Light) was my 228th album. Oh well. :) Eb --------------------- "Save it for the stage, Romeo" ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:03:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Grooving On An Inner Plane hbrandt@centralnet.net (Hal 'n' Carey) writes: > > I have the Glass Fish cassette version of "Invisible Hitchcock", and, as > > opposed to the Glash Fish CD, it has "Grooving On An Inner Plane" as like > > track 6 or 7 on side A. But this is an entirely different version (vocals & > > music) from the one on Groovy Decoy (or Gravy Deco). And, to top it all > > off, the "Grooving" on Gravy Deco clocks in at like 5:10, vs. the Groovy > > Decoy length of 4:55. Hmmm...puzzling. Anyone have any info on this > > brainteaser? > I can make it even more puzzling. This alternate "Grooving" can also be > found > on the "Invisible Hitchcok" vinyl LP. Baffling! only the US vinyl though. but it can also be found on the Rhino re-issue of _Black Snake Diamond Role_.......just an earlier recording nothing too bizarre. except it's release pattern. ------------------------------ From: jill@naxs.com (Jill Sunderlin) Subject: robyn at cat's cradle Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:08:33 -0500 I'm a few days behind posting this -- we've been moving the bookstore/gallery I work at this last week and life has been rather confusing. A friend of mine sent me the info on the Cat's Cradle show -- he has the date as Monday, March 3 (as opposed to the 4th which is what Thomas saw listed?). The Cat's Cradle is outside Chapel Hill in Carrboro, and the show starts at 10 pm. Tickets are $10, but aren't on sale yet at any of the outlets. They're saying they'll be on sale next week. Mary Robinson Crews, a feg who lives in Chapel Hill, mailed me that you can get tickets at a web site: http://www.chapel-hill.nc.us/ -- we haven't tried this yet ourselves. I'll post again when I hear anything more. jill (and brad) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:18:07 -0500 From: mary robinson crews Subject: Re: robyn tour dates Thomas Narten thus spake: > >Cat's Cradle here in NC lists Robyn appearing on March 4. tis true, and any fegs in the vicinity can buy tickets online at . get 'em while they're hot. +=-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-=+ mary robinson crews FREEZE 'EM and EAT 'EM mary@catalogue.com -Chilly Willee http://www.catalogue.com/ http://www.chapel-hill.nc.us/ +=-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-=+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Robyn's Real Greatest Hits CD Greatest: surgery the ghost ship all i wanna do is fall in love airscape the leopard winter love linctus house st. pete you've got some body glass mr deadly messages of dark Hits: mw&mdw heaven OLPoE from MotW promo (with spoken word "clintro") anglepoise lamp have a heart, betty luminous rose wafflehead terrapin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:04:04 -0800 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) Subject: Re: How big is yours? >and question # 2 (not counting the follow-ups to #1): Is there anyone who's >*first* LP or CD purchase was a Hitchcock recording? Yep. I bought I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS on CD about a year before I bought a CD player! I had been so frustrated with trying to get a decent tape off the vinyl that when I saw that lonely import in Record Swap I went for it. - David Librik ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:13:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Rude? In a message dated 97-01-30 05:02:36 EST, Hedblade@aol.com writes: [snip-a-rama; about robyn's joke about "welcome to 1969; hope yer all born?] > 1) Do you find it kind of rude or at least a tad condescending? with the caveat that i didn't make it to the bragg tour, not really. robyn is often accused of being a bit of a throwback to the 60's in many respects [beatles, byrds, dylan, barrett comparisons etc] and i think i've even read where her's referred to himself as the last sixties artist. it strikes me as more self-depreciating than anything else. > 2) Why do you think he does this? cuz he can. > 3) Shouldn't it please him? having younger fans? i assume it does. > 4) Is it just me? probably not. > [earlier on] I don't know about you, but Robyn is one > of a few distinct artists I'm still listening to from my college days (can > anyone say Ministry, Bauhaus, or Nitzer Ebb without laughing?). I still love Throwing Muses but anyways, i always thought bauhaus were hysterical to begin with, and i mean that in a good way. plus their "Ziggy stardust" stomps bowie's like a grape. ministry....i can't believe i loved _land of rape and honey_ at one point. and while a lot of ne is pretty laughable to me at this point, i do still think "Lightning Man" has to be one of the best 100 recordings of all time. just please don't mention Skinny Puppy, The Mighty Lemon Drops, The Ocean Blue, or Camouflage....... ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:16:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Deuling Dylans In a message dated 97-01-30 16:28:31 EST, firstcat@lsli.com writes: > Anyone want to wager which is going to be the better cover of "The Wind Cries > Mary" -- > Robyns or Pat Boones? Erasure's. :^ but what does that have to do with Dylan, other than Jimi recording "all along the watchtower?" Pat Boone recorded "Wind Cries Mary?" that fucker's going to an even worse part of hell now. hope they make him watch that duran duran video that got his diapers in a bunch over & over & over again. or just loop the "Bon; Simon Le Bon" bit at the end..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:20:14 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: How big is yours? well.. of my 22 cds and 2 double-sets none of them are Hitchcock.. a problem i desperately hope to remedy, but i have to find a place that can actually get their hands on Hitchcock stuff... i have 8 LPs and one is "Mossy Liquor" or is it Moss Elixer? i can't remember now! *hanging head in shame* Either way, that was a gift from a very dear friend who i believe is on this list! *waving* Hi Mike! ;) i can never thank you enough for addicting Des to Robyn, in turn getting me addicted even more so! LOL i've been wearing out my 2 Morrissey albums, also! *grin* either way, it's a small collection, but diverse.. i listen to just about everything.. (no country! and no opera!) that is all.. LSDiamond >So question #1: who's got the *smallest* collection? Is there anyone on this >list with just 10 albums on the shelf? 50? And I'm not talking about >people who's ex-wives absconded with 1,000 albums, or those of you who've >had to sell off everything to support your internet habits. > >and question # 2 (not counting the follow-ups to #1): Is there anyone who's >*first* LP or CD purchase was a Hitchcock recording? 10th? 50th? > > -russ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where was I? I forgot the point that I was making I said that if I was smart that I would save up for a piece of string And a rock to wind the string around. Everybody wants a rock To wind a piece of string around. ~ They Might Be Giants - "We Want a Rock" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:34:35 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: okay, for sure.. yes, my LP is Mossy Liquor.. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where was I? I forgot the point that I was making I said that if I was smart that I would save up for a piece of string And a rock to wind the string around. Everybody wants a rock To wind a piece of string around. ~ They Might Be Giants - "We Want a Rock" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:44:32 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: tricky robyn reference? Okay, then it WAS broadcast that way.. it's at the Kennel Club.. wherever that is.. *grin* thanks! :) LSDiamond At 01:32 PM 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >Dunno. It's the 5.21.91 show.. > >Terrence Marks >Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy >-Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. >normal@grove.ufl.edu > >On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, LSDiamond wrote: > >> i've got that one.. wasn't that one broadcast as a "mystery" concert on the >> KALX Cabinet Tapes program? >> >> LSDiamond >> >> >> >Hmm..I don't have the tape, but that reminds me of a tape I have.. >> >Between songs, the audience starts singing Happy Birthday to him and he >> >stammers and protests it. >> >"Look...look, it's not my birthday. Do I look like a Gemini to you? No. >> >I'm a pisces" >> > >> >I think that next gig you go to, you ought to get as many people as you >> >cna to start singing Happy Birthday... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where was I? I forgot the point that I was making I said that if I was smart that I would save up for a piece of string And a rock to wind the string around. Everybody wants a rock To wind a piece of string around. ~ They Might Be Giants - "We Want a Rock" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:05:13 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Favorite Dylan? On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > Forgetting albums for a moment, which _songs_ do you like? My favourites > are: > > Just like Tom Thumb's Blues OK, since most of you do not have a burning desire to know what a few of MY favorite Dylan songs are and why, you can delete this now :). Just warning you. "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" is one of my favorites too. Some neglected favorites of mine: On The Road Again- cracks me up It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)- cause it converted me Sign on the Window- ok, I know the stuff about having a buncha kids to call you Pa is kinda corny, but I love the first verse and the line "My best friend said 'now didn't I warn ya?/Brighton girls are like the moon" Black Diamond Bay- just a cracking good story Buckets of Rain- touching, vulnerable, wonderful ------------------------------ Leopard-skin Pillbox Hat- because it always makes me laugh, and has one of my favorite ever lyrics: "You know it balances on your head just like a mattress balances on a bottle of wine" Something There Is About You- because it's lovely Up to Me- also lovely and wonderfully compassionate Abandoned Love- why this was left off Desire I have no idea. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? (or push Phil Ochs out the door :)) Senor (Tales of Yankee Power) - too often overlooked because it's on the otherwise wretched "Street Legal" > PS Quick quiz question: the riff of 'Obviously Five Believers' is nicked > from another song. What is it? And who wrote it? (Thinks: I'll have to > remember that title myself now...) Uh oh. I didn't know that was a stolen riff. Now I'm embarassed. TELL ME WHAT IT IS, I DEMAND TO KNOW! :) Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:17:57 -0600 From: FineLine Subject: Re: Rude? Okay.. i have to admit that i like Bush.. but then, i'm an X-er and i'm supposed to be in on all that Alternative stuff.. (hey, i like a *lot* of it! some of it's just good music. but so is classical, ya dig?) i grew up listening to weird stuff.. anyone remember Kraftwerk? or Vox Humana? ya know, if you think about it.. Robyn is the ultimate definition of alternative.. *grin* just my $0.02... LSDiamond ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:38:08 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: Re: How big is yours? - also a request.. By the way, as far >as the Yertle Turtling goes, my Cd collection is now about 1400. This is, >of course, the price of a relatively nice car. I console myself with the >fact that a nice car wouldn't make as much lovely sounds going into my >ears. Sigh. > >The Great Quail Amen!!! *grin* music has been the centre of my life for as long as i can remember.. i've got a part-time job, but it's not enough to sustain my ever-growing hunger for goood music--fortunately i have great friends who tape stuff off for me till i can afford to own the album myself. *grin* Anyone want to trade lists? all i have is first-generation copies of Robyn's stuff, but i have really good equipment for dubbing, and even copies of my copies sound *great*. i've got a lot of stuff thanks to my special friend. *grin* but i'm interested in some names i've seen on here and have NO idea as to who these people are.. such as Captain Beefheart? my dad recognised the name, but no dice here.. i'll have to go through old posts to find some others i'm interested in, but i know i'm missing some Robyn albums yet.. anyways, i'll stop rambling for now... LSDiamond ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where was I? I forgot the point that I was making I said that if I was smart that I would save up for a piece of string And a rock to wind the string around. Everybody wants a rock To wind a piece of string around. ~ They Might Be Giants - "We Want a Rock" ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:58:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Greatest/Hits Here's my list.. Terrence Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu The Commercial Stuff: (Hits) [19 songs] The Queen of Eyes The Yip Song Surgery Some Body If you were a priest The Cars She Used to Drive 52 Stations Flesh #1 Heaven Balloon Man When I Was Dead So You Think You're In Love Chinese Bones Kingdom of Love Beatiful Queen DeChirico Street I Often Dream of Trains Madonna of the Wasps Goodnight, I Say The Good Stuff: (Greatest) [20 songs] Birdshead The Leopard Globe of Frogs (Acoustic) Flavour of Night Underwater Moonlight Trams of Old London The Lizard It was the Night (BSDR version) Dreams The Black Crow Knows Wax Doll Love Poisoning Wading Through a Ventilator I'm Only You You and Me Bright Fresh Flower Never Stop Bleeding Airscape Glass Hotel Lysander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:51:58 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Greatest/Hits Commercial (16): Tell Me About Your Drugs (why? why? WHY was this never a single?) Ruling Class You've Got A Skull, A Suitcase, and a Long Red Bottle of Wine (normally I might not include this, but with the recent fad for dark country-tinged material in some circles these days, it might work) Watch Your Intelligence Driving Aloud (Radio Storm) Balloon Man Old Pervert (yes, really :)) Queen of Eyes Madonna of the Wasps If You Were a Priest Beautiful Girl Cars She Used to Drive Surgery Flesh Cartoons Rock and Roll Toilet For My Own Purposes (16): Transparent Lovers I'm Only You Underwater Moonlight Insanely Jealous I Am Not Me Blues In The Dark Filthy Bird I Often Dream of Trains This Could Be The Day Glass Hotel Flesh Cartoons (making a DOUBLE appearance here :)) Victorian Squid Raymond Chandler Evening A Skull, A Suitcase, and A Long Red Bottle of Wine (another duplicate :)) Globe of Frogs (electric) Satellite Damn that was hard! I'm sure I'll think of personal faves I've left off the moment I send this, but these were the ones that occurred to me right off the top of my head, so I suppose that says something. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:10:33 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Favorite Dylan? More 'Albert Hall' info: I checked my copy of the Bob Dylan and the Hawks album. It is called "In 1966 There Was" and the track listing is: Tell Me Mama I Don't Believe You Baby Let Me Follow You Down Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat One Too Many Mornings Ballad of a Thin Man Like a Rolling Stone According to the RH Borderline set list which was posted here, RH did not perform 'I Don't Believe You' - is that correct? And if so, what's the explanation? 'I Don't Believe You' and 'One Too Many Mornings' are the two songs which have been totally rearranged for electric performance; all the others pretty well follow the studio arrangements. - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:20:38 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Favourite Dylan >With all of this talk about Dylan, i've started listening to him a good bit >again. I have three of his disks. "Bringing It all Back Home", "Blood On >The Tracks", and "Oh Mercy". I love all three. I'm wondering what anyone >would recommend me to pick up next. I would have no hesitation in saying that Highway 61 Revisited is his best, and Blonde on Blonde is also excellent. But there's so much out there that's good, it's difficult. So that's another vote for each of those... James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:17:09 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Favorite Dylan? On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Truman Peyote wrote: > > PS Quick quiz question: the riff of 'Obviously Five Believers' is nicked > > from another song. What is it? And who wrote it? (Thinks: I'll have to > > remember that title myself now...) > > Uh oh. I didn't know that was a stolen riff. Now I'm embarassed. > TELL ME WHAT IT IS, I DEMAND TO KNOW! :) Oh all right: it's the opening riff to 'You Can't Catch Me' by Chuck Berry. However, the actual tune is much more like 'Good Morning Little Schoolgirl', which I guess is by Willie Dixon. - Mike ("I was a blues purist until I saw Syd") Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:27:15 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) >PS Quick quiz question: the riff of 'Obviously Five Believers' is nicked >from another song. What is it? And who wrote it? (Thinks: I'll have to >remember that title myself now...) heh - we're into Dylan quizzes are we? Don't know the answer to that one, but how about this one - the riff from which Bob Dylan song was "surreptitiously appropriated" by Warren Zevon for his song "Carmelita"? A clue - it's off one of the Bob albums that's been mentioned frequently of Fegmaniax in the last 48 hours... James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:10:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Gary Sedgwick Subject: Syd, Dylan, etc. Sorry if this topic's being done to death... I don't think you can easily say Robyn is *most* like Dylan or Barrett, or anyone else for that matter, but rather a mixture of some artists in fairly equal measures. I reckon his voice sounds a lot like Syd's - that was one of the first things that struck me when I first discovered him (Phoenix 95 - I know, I'm still a baby feg) - and he uses similar imagery in his songs. Robyn's throwaway rhyming couplets ("And it rained like a slow divorce, and I wish I could ride a horse") are a lot like Syd's too (e.g. Bike). But Robyn has also inherited the irony and turns of phrase that are otherwise mostly unique to Dylan (compare "'What time is it?' said the judge to Joey when they met, 'Five to ten' said Joey, the judge said, 'that's exactly what you get'" to "See the massacre on cable, But you know it won't happen here, We're all too busy watching massacres on cable, oh yeah", or "I don't mind him cheating on me, but I sure wish he'd take that off his head, your brand new leopard-skin pill-box hat" to the lovely "you know I don't take sugar" from MWAMDW). And Robyn uses a lot of random characters in his songs, which is much more Bob-like than Syd-like. Also, there aren't that many Syd songs that have the straightforward emotion of songs like 'This Is How It Feels' ('Terrapin' and 'Late Night' are about it), but I'd be here all day if I mentioned the Bob ones. And that quality in particular is very Lennon; you could argue that lyrically *he* is one of the biggest influences in Robyn's writing (again, the imagery, and the wit) - and I would say musically, Robyn's melodies are most comparable to his. And then there's Ray Davies... (random thought - isn't the style of writing in Elixir's liner notes similar to RD's X-Ray?) >With all of this talk about Dylan, i've started listening to him a good >bit again. I have three of his disks. "Bringing It all Back Home", >"Blood On The Tracks", and "Oh Mercy". I love all three. I'm wondering >what anyone would recommend me to pick up next. I agree with Susan - get 'Desire', definitely. It's probably his best singing, and it's got a great sound (heavily echoed drums, violin counter melodies duelling against the harmonica... gorgeous!). And 'Blonde On Blonde' - my personal favourite. And then... 'Another Side Of', 'Highway 61', 'Freewheelin', and 'More Greatest Hits' (the double album) for songs like 'I Shall Be Released' and 'When I Paint My Masterpiece'. The 'Bootleg Tapes' album is pretty good too. BTW, why are there so many fans of 'Nashville Skyline'? Apart from 'Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You', I don't think it's got much going for it. << Next night I saw Robyn, though, and it was the first I'd seen him with Deni. Opening line (while we were abusing him over his shirt) was "welcome to 1969...hope you've all been born." >> Great Phoenix, wasn't it? Uncle Bob was great, and I saw Robyn for the first time! Anyway, there's a similar thing in the cover of 'Eight Miles High', including a 'you weren't even born yet' comment. I think he's probably amused by it all - 'kids' today listening to very 60s music - and says it in a sinister way to make it more of a laugh. It amuses me - I wasn't around till '74! One last thing - thanks to all those who got back to me about 'Unhatched Crablings' - I'm hopefully getting a copy soon. Gary Sedgwick email: gary@milohedge.com ------------------------------ Subject: Greatest Hits From: guambat@juno.com (The Guambat) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:12:20 EST The Guambat Speaks! Here's my "Hits" - a collection of commercial tunes guaranteed to Make Robyn a household name like Hootie or Peter Buck: ------------------------------ Balloon Man Vibrating Flesh Number One A Globe of Frogs Legalized Murder Intro to "Eyes" One Long Pair of Eyes Madonna of the Wasps Wax Doll More Than This Ruling Class So You Think You're In Love Oceanside Ride She Doesn't Exist Dark Green Energy Eight Miles High Driving Aloud The Yip Song Alright Yeah Bright Fresh Flower Ok -- Here's the REAL stuff -- Guambat's Personal RH Mix: ------------------------------------------------ Shuffling Down the Flagstones Alright Yeah (Respect version) Chinese Bones Sinister But She Was Happy (ME) Sweet Ghost of Light Statue with a Walkman September Cones Railway Shoes Egyptian Cream (Live-Rhino version) Airscape Winchester It Was the Night (BSDR-Rhino version) Autumn Is Your Last Chance Man With a Woman's Shadow Bright Fresh Flower You & Oblivion The Guambat has spoken! The Guambat guambat@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:22:56 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: favorites disc i don't feel qualified to play on the commercial one. didn't a&m just release it? and this isn't sequenced or anything, and it won't look like anyone else's at all i bet, but: sandra's having her brain out have a heart betty queen of eyes i wanna destroy you i watch the cars the cars she used to drive (decay) how do you work this thing? dwarfbeat goodnight i say tell me about your drugs the president acid bird (hen out) leppo and hte jooves (hen out) all i wanna do i used to say i love you sounds great when you're dead flseh #1 freeze ruling class superman clean steve sinister but happy ...i crammed a lot in there, but since preference was shown to short over long songs in a couple of cases, i think it will all go d. n.p. chilton tribute -- oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug -- dmayowel@access.digex.net==dmw@mwmw.com==dougmhyphw@aol.com -- get yr recently updated pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 09:12:30 Subject: Re: Deuling Dylans Yeah I realized it was Hendrix as soon as I hit the send button....but6 of one....ones dead, and one looks dead.... anyways the Mary song is on Pats new "heavy metal" ablum Jay --- On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:16:40 -0500 (EST) TchdnJesus@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-30 16:28:31 EST, firstcat@lsli.com writes: > >> Anyone want to wager which is going to be the better cover of "The Wind >Cries >> Mary" -- >> Robyns or Pat Boones? > >Erasure's. :^ > >but what does that have to do with Dylan, other than Jimi recording "all >along the watchtower?" > >Pat Boone recorded "Wind Cries Mary?" that fucker's going to an even worse >part of hell now. hope they make him watch that duran duran video that got >his diapers in a bunch over & over & over again. or just loop the "Bon; Simon -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 1/31/97 Spectacle is not reality ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 09:28:15 -600 From: spine@iastate.edu (James Francis) Subject: Re: tricky robyn reference? > Hmm..I don't have the tape, but that reminds me of a tape I have.. > Between songs, the audience starts singing Happy Birthday to him and > he stammers and protests it. > "Look...look, it's not my birthday. Do I look like a Gemini to you? > No. I'm a pisces" I'm going to try to swallow my embarrassment at asking such a "fan"-type question and ask it anyway: when is Robyn's birthday? Thanks in advance, "Jim" Francis "And a small piece of impacted cheese almost obscuring the top of a little book of matches. But there's a note, too. It says, 'The reason the cheese is here is because it's my birthday. Play I AM THE WALRUS please!' I can't. Don't know it. . ." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:50:47 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: favorites disc This one is designed to lure the listener into a flase sense of security with the first few numbers... Flesh Number 1 Kingdom of Love Railway Shoes Alright Yeah One Long Pair of Eyes Insanely Jealous Oceanside Only the Stones Remain I Often Dream of Trains Acid Bird It Sounds Great When You're Dead The Yip Song The Abandoned Brain Arms of Love (big overproduced version) Airscape Madonna of the Wasps (with Kershaw Sessions intro) Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom Tell Me About Your Drugs Heaven America Sleeping with Your Devil Mask Queen of Eyes - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:50:34 -0500 From: mlang@inch.com (Matrix) Subject: Airscape How dare no one mention Airscape.... Fits both discs steve ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:05:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How big is yours? [buying things before you can play them] In a message dated 97-01-31 00:04:40 EST, librik@netcom.com (David Librik) writes: > >and question # 2 (not counting the follow-ups to #1): Is there anyone who's > >*first* LP or CD purchase was a Hitchcock recording? > Yep. I bought I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS on CD about a year before I bought > a CD player! I had been so frustrated with trying to get a decent tape > off the vinyl that when I saw that lonely import in Record Swap I went for > it. gee, and i thought i went overboard buying the smiths _hatful of hollow_ 7 months before getting a cd player [this was back when not only was it import only, but it was practically out of print, so it's not quite as absurd as it sounds). ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: favorites disc On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, M R Godwin wrote: > > This one is designed to lure the listener into a flase sense of security > with the first few numbers... > > Flesh Number 1 > Kingdom of Love > Railway Shoes > Alright Yeah > One Long Pair of Eyes > Insanely Jealous > Oceanside > Only the Stones Remain > I Often Dream of Trains > Acid Bird > It Sounds Great When You're Dead > The Yip Song > The Abandoned Brain > Arms of Love (big overproduced version) > Airscape > Madonna of the Wasps (with Kershaw Sessions intro) > Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom > Tell Me About Your Drugs > Heaven > America > Sleeping with Your Devil Mask > Queen of Eyes No SYTYIL? or Chinese Bones? I also gotta say that Railway Shoes, Acid Bird, Abandoned Brain, Devil Mask and America don't strike me as that accessible... Disagreements? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: "The TA formerly known as Chris." Subject: Re: Syd, Dylan, etc. On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Gary Sedgwick wrote: > Sorry if this topic's being done to death... I don't think you can easily > say Robyn is *most* like Dylan or Barrett, or anyone else for that matter, > but rather a mixture of some artists in fairly equal measures. I reckon does this bring us round to post-modern artist of the month, yet? :), .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:28:00 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: favorites disc > No SYTYIL? or Chinese Bones? SYTYL is OK pop, but not one of my favourites. Don't like Chinese Bones. > I also gotta say that Railway Shoes, Acid Bird, Abandoned Brain, Devil > Mask and America don't strike me as that accessible... > Disagreements? It was only the first four or five that were supposed to be accessible - the others are just favourites. I would have said that Railway Shoes was very soothing to listen to - but everyone hears the songs differently. - Mike Godwin. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:32:18 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: How big is yours? [buying things before you can play them] I bought two CDs long before I contemplated buying a CD player: they were that early film score version of 'Interstellar Overdrive' etc by the Pink Floyd, and "I May Be Hungry But I Sure Ain't Weird" by Captain Beefheart. Of course I should have realised that once you buy CDs, you have to play them, because the covers aren't good to look at. Whereas I can happily buy LPs and just leave them lying around. I've had a Mississippi John Hurt LP for months and it's never got on the turntable... - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:29:27 -0500 From: lobsterman Subject: Another Robyn date pops up! Wow! I was just fuckin' around, looking at a local website which sports concert dates of shows here in the central new york area, and look what i found: FRI, MAR 7 --- ROBYN HITCHCOCK --- MILESTONES this is a really cool little coffeehouse in Rochester, NY. I've seen a few stellar shows there, including Kristin Hersh, and Idaho. The night I saw Kristin Hersh there, I remember thinking, "Robyn should play here!!" Hope this is for real, and not one of those things meant to tease fans like Marcy. ps. if you live around here, and i know some of you do, then you can check out the WBER concert listings pages at: http://wber.monroe.edu/Concal.html what a week that will be! March 3rd I'm going to see Soul Coughing here at Syracuse University. bye all. hey, we should be seeing a big mess o tour dates pretty soon! Think I'll go run over to the Warner page and see if anything's up there. john /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-//-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones Internet Confessional: I watch "Boy Meets World" regularly. :| \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:40:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Syd, Dylan, etc. << And then there's Ray Davies... (random thought - isn't the style of writing in Elixir's liner notes similar to RD's X-Ray?) >> Can our lurvly Susan's response be far behind? ;) Jay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:50:19 -0500 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: To all NYC Fegs and the people who love them (no RH content) PAULA CARINO comes alive at The Fort @ Sidewalk Cafe 94 Avenue A at 6th St., NYC Sunday, February 9, 1997 8:00 p.m. Free admission w/Mike Rechner, Michael Eck, Tom Nishioka, Steve Espinola, Dan Emery, and others... However, as with anything that is attempting to be compatible across multiple applications, some problems are not correctable from within the plug-in. ------------------------------ From: tanter@econs.umass.edu Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:40:01 -0500 Subject: Please, please, please... This is not to "get at" anyone, but could people please keep non-Robyn discussions between themselves? Lately there's been a lot of non-RH stuff posted and, while there's nothing wrong with it, it takes up an awful lot of bandwidth for those of us who subscribe to the feg digest. If there wasn't so much I wouldn't really care but our mailbox has been getting incredibly full and some people have to literally pay for it all..... Thanks. Don't mean to make anyone mad so please don't get mad! Marcy ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(PIN-C09)" Subject: Greatest/Hits Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:48:15 -0500 OK - here goes. I haven't included any songs in both compilations but it should be noted that I feel that at a good half of the Hits List is right up there with Robyn's greatest work: Hits ----- Give it to the Soft Boys Whey-Whey-Hup-A-Hole I Want To Destroy You Kingdom of Love Queen of Eyes Brenda's Iron Sledge 52 Stations I Often Dream of Trains Egyptian Cream My Wife and my Dead Wife Sometimes I Wish I was a Pretty Girl (live) If You Were A Priest Tell Me About Your Drugs Balloon Man Flesh No. 1 Lost Madonna of the Wasps So You Think Your In Love Oceanside The Yip Song Alright Yeah Greatest ------------- Old Pervert I Got The Hots for You Insanely Jealous Do Policemen Sing? Lizard Acid Bird I Watch the Cars St Petersburg Autumn is your last chance This Could be the Day Surgery I'm Only You The Leopard Trash All I Want to do is fall in love Sleeping with your devil mask Autumn Sea Devil's Coachman She Doesn't Exist When I was Dead The Speed of Things I think it says something about the quality and quantity of Robyn's back catalogue that I felt I had to turn down so many fantastic songs to get this list - its pains me to select nothing from my beloved Invisible Hits but this is how I'm seeing it today. Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:39:46 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Robyn Hitchcock in MD 3/5/97 @ 8 by 10 club (fwd) Rob (the guy who looks just like woj) just let me know that Robyn's in Baltimore on the 5th. Get me a ticket Rob! As locals will attest, this is an awesome club due mostly to its miniscule size and nifty balcony. I think i also heard it may not be around much longer (oh, i think that was hammerjacks.) I expect woj will have a compilation of dates on the page soon. The _Glass Flesh_ arrived today. A couple cases were cracked, but other than that I'm really, really happy. The booklet layout and art is especially great, and of course the music is really good. I count myself extremely fortunate to have been able to work with such talented people! I'll have the cd's in the mail asap. Looks like the party will have to be one of the latter saturdays in february. cast your vote for the date. About non-robyn stuff-- the trouble is, everyone has a different idea of what counts as non-robyn. Do robyn-dylan comparisons count? what about testimonials of fegism? happenings in the feg community, like fegs giving concerts (hi paula!)? What about a non-robyn post with an oblig-rob factoid at the bottom? I don't think there's any poster who's not been a little guilty of this little sin (not even some who used to speak out against it!) i agree it can get out of hand, but the only way out if to self-regulate. perhaps ratings in the headers, like [R0] or such? We could then sort on that or set the killfile to zap non-robyn or minimal-robyn letters. I know woj is reluctant to lay down the law, and i don't blame him. he does a great job with all the work it takes to maintain the list. anyone going to star wars tonight? if so, i guess you're already camping out! =b ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .