From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #5 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 5 Tuesday January 7 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- RH/Beck...blah, blah, woof-woof Re: "The Hooded One" Virus hoaxes (no robyn content) tape tree leaves (No RH) Re: "The Hooded One" & "Flesh Number 1" Re: That controversial RH/Beck comparison That controversial RH/Beck comparison RH and MM Re: 1996: it was a relentlessly mediocre year... Re: XTC (Was dumb and dumber connection) Re: Dumb and Dumber connection dumb and dumber Re: no Robyn, but a CD recommendation ROBYN TONIGHT RE: "Hooded One" no rh only virus sorry Re: 1996: it was a relentlessly mediocre year... Virus ULR Fw: Virus hoaxes (no robyn content) ------------------------------ Date: 06 Jan 97 00:47:03 EST From: Doc <75602.2577@CompuServe.COM> Subject: RH/Beck...blah, blah, woof-woof Yesterday, we tuned into Feg Digest and heard Phil say: >But I do think they share a gift with language *and* a capacity not >to take what they write too seriously: a rare combination, which >results in some lyrics that raise a smile, some that are genuinely >poetic & moving, and some that are kind of halfway in between. >More to the point, I can't think of any other songwriter I'd say this >about. >Comments? Yeah...a couple. I find that Pat Fish (alias the Late Jazz Butcher) has some of the most AMAZING stuff. Particularly on the "Illuminate", "Condition Blue" and "Distressed Gentlefolk" albums. Keeping in mind with the Jazz Butcher theme, Max Eider, former Jazz Butcher Conspiracy guitarist, has written some equally impressive stuff. "The Best Kisser In The World" is also the hardest album to find in the world (and if anyone has a copy of it, I'd trade my left lung for it-- my copy wore out a long time ago), but worth every minnit of it. I'll take the plunge and also simply say that The Flaming Lips fit in this catagory. The entire "Clouds Taste Metallic" is a really sharp album, but you gotta listen to it a couple of times and pay attention. Frank Black's "Teenager Of The Year" is a great effort in that way as well. ("Speedy Marie" is indeed one of the best tunes ever written.) As is MC 900 Ft. Jesus' "One Step Ahead Of The Spider". Quoth Michael R. Runion: >I got the Jonny Polonsky-album: Hi My Name Is Jonny for X-mas and I like it >a lot... I'd agree! Good album and EVEN BETTER LIVE SHOW. I saw him open for Frank Black at the Vic this last spring and he A) kicked Frank's buttocks, and B) played a 12-string in ways I'd never ever imagined. Incredible show. Oh, and since everyone else is jumping off the cliff, I thought I'd throw my faves of '96 out. Since I didn't buy a whole lot of '96 releases, I'm cheating and just generally listing the stuff I bought in '96 I liked. In no particular order: 1. Robyn Hitchcock's Mossy Twins. 2. The Flaming Lips, "Clouds Taste Metallic". 3. "The Blue Aeroplanes, friendloverplane 2 (Up In A Down World)" 4. The Soft Boys, "Underwater Moonlight" 5. Frank Zappa, "Strictly Commercial" 6. Social Distortion. "Somewhere Between Heaven And Hell" 7. Stereolab, "Refried Ectoplasm [Switched On Volume 2]" 8. Guided By Voices, "Under the Bushes Under the Stars" 9. Manic Street Preachers, "Everything Must Go" 10. Jack Frost, "Kama Sutra" ("Everyone else has opinions; he has lists." -Nick Hornby) Best wishes to EVERYONE THIS NEW YEAR! '97 is going to be great! Look after yerselves... -Ed, Doc, dreading going back to work after nearly three weeks off... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:25:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "NORMAN PARKER +44 (0)1473-222478" Subject: Re: "The Hooded One" Can I second Jay's request - I'd love a copy of that boot too. If anyone can get me one, please let me know direct and I'll sort out some sort of amenable trade. Thanks, Norm. ------------------------------ From: bryanm@doc.state.ok.us (Bryan Moore) Subject: Virus hoaxes (no robyn content) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:05:47 -0900 Check out http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/bulletins/h-05.shtml --- Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:36:11 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: tape tree leaves (No RH) Sorry to post a note like this. I need to contact the following fegs to complete the tape trees that I am involved with. If you're still on the list and want the Soft Boys tape, the Unhatched Crablings, or the Borderline show, please email me and we'll make arrangements. cagedrat@ix.netcom.com gene@cadmus.edu akoskine@cc.helsinki.fi Jay M Montgomery Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 09:44:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: "The Hooded One" & "Flesh Number 1" ======== Original Message ======== >>"The Hooded One" - a bootleg on vinyl I believe > >yep. 3/28/86, washington d.c. is the date and location of the show as >advertised by the sleeve. i'm assuming that the show was at the 9:30 >club, but i don't know for certain. the sound quality is listenable, >but not great. again, i'd not pay much more than $10 for this. it's >fairly common and can be found without too much effort. > >woj Yes, I believe this is the first Egyptians show at the 930. It's an average audience recording, and the performance is good. If you live in the D.C. area there is a shop called Record Convergence in Fairfax, VA, that has a huge stack of these selling for $1.00 each. ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== I recall someone once posting a track list for that boot which differed significantly from a tape made by a friend who was at 9:30 that same evening. I don't recall ever getting to the bottom of this mystery, though. If anyone's really interested comparing notes (don't think anyone was last time I brought this up) get back to me and I'll dig up the tape. -rr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:55:20 -0500 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: Re: That controversial RH/Beck comparison >>More to the point, I can't think of any other songwriter I'd say this about.<< I'd add Black Francis and Scott Miller (Loud Family/Game Theory) to that list of lyricists who go out on a limb with varying levels of poetic success. When they hit their mark, they hit it with a great crashing sound, and when they miss, it can be truly icky. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: That controversial RH/Beck comparison Author: Phil Edwards at usccmail Date: 1/5/97 11:56 PM Well yes, they are very different. Yes, Beck's stuff is very American & RH's is very English (not "European"!) But I do think they share a gift with language *and* a capacity not to take what they write too seriously: a rare combination, which results in some lyrics that raise a smile, some that are genuinely poetic & moving, and some that are kind of halfway in between. More to the point, I can't think of any other songwriter I'd say this about. Comments? Phil -- Phil Edwards amroth@zetnet.co.uk "In reality, methane from decomposing manure is very unlikely to have been a hazard on the Ark" - John Woodmoroppe ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:17:48 -0500 Subject: RH and MM <<"Mrs.Robinson" is from 19.03.93 - RH and Mike Mills in Waterloo Records Shop, Austin, TX, where they did the Yip song/(Don't go back to) Rockville/Man on the moon/Arms of Love/Stuck in the middle with you/Mrs.Robinson >> Anyone have a copy of this show to trade? Jay ------------------------------ From: Chez Stadium Subject: Re: 1996: it was a relentlessly mediocre year... Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:05:42 -0800 At 11:52 05.01.97 -0500, TchdnJesus@aol.com wrote: >oh well and "7" year >is here, and we all know what that means...] > What does it mean? Boston is going to release another album? ;) --g "Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." --Bernard Baruch ******************************************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Chez Stadium Subject: Re: XTC (Was dumb and dumber connection) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:05:39 -0800 At 10:08 05.01.97 EST, Ross Overbury wrote: [Stuff about XTC and CTD deleted] >Pout. I feel your pain, Ross. Think of it this way -- at least Andy made a little bit of money off that song due to the heavy airplay. I'm sure he was able to live it up a little when those royalty checks started coming in. ;) Don't get too angry, though. Most people probably don't know that "Love Rollercoaster" and "Higher Ground" weren't original Red Hot Chili Peppers songs. Not the people on this list, though. We're much smarter than that, right? ;) --g "Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." --Bernard Baruch ******************************************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Chez Stadium Subject: Re: Dumb and Dumber connection Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:05:36 -0800 At 23:16 04.01.97 -0800, Daniel Saunders wrote: >As an unrelated sidenote, I just found out that that terrific Crash Test >Dummies single on the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack, "The Ballad of Peter >Pumpkinhead", has also been done by XTC. XTC wrote the song, right? Andy Partridge wrote the song and it appears on the XTC album _Nonsuch_. The album is worth buying if you can find it used or as a bargain bin cut-out. Just MHO, --g "Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." --Bernard Baruch ******************************************************* Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: bryanm@doc.state.ok.us (Bryan Moore) "Chez Stadium" Subject: dumb and dumber Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:32:56 -0900 > Don't get too angry, though. Most people probably don't know that "Love > Rollercoaster" and "Higher Ground" weren't original Red Hot Chili Peppers songs. > When I was in high school some guy commented that "Whoever wrote that song(Crimson and Clover) FOR Joan Jett made her sound like a lesbian and she isn't" At a recent new years eve concert a band covered "Mrs. Robinson". How many times did I hear "It's that Lemonhead's song" ????? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 18:21:13 EST From: KeN SaBaTiNi Subject: Re: no Robyn, but a CD recommendation On Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:42:35 -0500 (EST) E.B. said re Tori A. and Kate B.: >From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) >Subject: Re: Tori, etc. > >Well, I dunno...their voices sound very similar...Tori also overdubs her >vocals in a very Kate-like way...their songwriting styles are both very >theatrical and often pretentious to a fault.... > >I really wouldn't call Tori "gritty" myself. If Amos is gritty, what does >that make Courtney Love? I shudder to think! ;) -----snip----- Bravo! Well put!! <<--a non-Robyn "me too" post (major faux pas) An even greater no-no would be to misspell faux pas, which I may or may not have done . . . maybe I misspelled "misspell" This is one of those things I always just assumed everyone agreed on--that Tory's vocal style is startlingly similar to Kate Bush's. The same thing with The Cranberries (sp?) vocalist duplicating the forgotten Sinead O'Connor howl. While I am off the Robyn topic: For anyone into the bands *Pavement or *Sea and Cake or some aspects of *Shrimp Boat, I recently picked up a CD I'd bet dollars to donuts you would like. This is the debut CD from an Iowa band named The Multiple Cat (the CD is called "Territory shall mean the universe"). I won't attempt a detailed description but it is a very impressive CD: Pavement-ish vocals (on the smoother side); varied instrumentation, although mainly guitar-based; and well-constructed songs throughout--some straightforward, but most with enough twists to keep your interest over repeated listenings. BTW, they appeared on a recent CMJ magazine CD--November, I believe. Sorry for the non-Robyn content, but I had to get this off my chest. I humbly offer you these: :) :) :) Bye, Ken ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken Sabatini Optimism has failed us Pessimism has failed us Dept. of Psychology And all logic is wrong University of Georgia We'll go swirling up We'll go searching high Athens, GA -David Kilgour ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:51:10 -0500 Subject: ROBYN TONIGHT Attention Chicago Fegs (and all of you interested): Tonight on Chicago Cable, Image Mind Television is running an interview and at least one live recorded song from Robyn Hitchcock. The interview was conducted by yours truly (and my brother) in April of 1995 at The Park West in Chicago. The live track(s) were recorded at the same show. It will be one or more of these songs: "De Chirico St.," "Egyptian Cream," and/or "I Am Not Me." Image Mind Television airs at 10 PM on channel 19. Hope you can catch it! Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 19:25:50 -0500 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: RE: "Hooded One" Well fegs-without-"Hooded One", I took the advice of the recent posting and called Record Convergence. They indeed do have literally stacks of "Hooded One" for sale for only a buck! I asked if they could mail order and the guy took my name and phone number and said he'd check tomorrow and call me back. He jokingly said "the postage will be more than the LP, you know?" He also said something to the effect that "it's really weird - I've got no idea how we somehow got stuck with all these." So, if anyone else wants to pursue it the way I did, the address and phone number is: Record Convergence 4005 Chestnut St. Fairfax, VA 22030-5240 (703) 385-1234 __________________________________________________________ Mike Runion Cocoa, Florida email: mrrunion@tng.net (home) email: Michael.Runion-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov WWW: http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm "A perfect circle of acquaintances and friends, Drink another, coin a phrase..." -REM __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:05:34 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: no rh only virus sorry hi, someone just posted a wonderful url for virus hoax info, and welp, i managed to blow away my bookmark file and can't remember the name of the organization. doh! could you please resend the info, privately? it was better than any of the similar pages i've stumbled across. i actually went and looked in the fegmaniax archives, and couldn't find this info, else i wouldn't bug the whole list. d. -- oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug -- dmayowel@access.digex.net==dmw@mwmw.com==dougmhyphw@aol.com -- get yr recently updated pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:24:25 -0500 Subject: Re: 1996: it was a relentlessly mediocre year... In a message dated 97-01-06 16:00:18 EST, glen@metro.net writes: > At 11:52 05.01.97 -0500, TchdnJesus@aol.com wrote: > > >oh well and "7" year > >is here, and we all know what that means...] > > > > What does it mean? Boston is going to release another album? ;) nothing that horrible. just well: 1967: sgt. pepper; magical mystery tour, first hendrix, first doors, velvet underground & nico, ..... 1977: nevermind the bollocks; bowie's "low" & "Heroes"; first buzzcocks album (i think); ..... 1987: the jesus and mary chain _Darklands_; The Cure _Kiss Me3_; R.E.M. _Document_; depressedmood _music for the masses_ [unless you hate them; they wouldn't really could then]; some big irish band; sonic youth _sister_; the replacements _pleased to meet me_; ..... 1997: ??????, but the pattern IS set for it to not suck, or at least be better than 1996...... ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:46 -0500 Subject: Virus ULR << hi, someone just posted a wonderful url for virus hoax info, and welp, i managed to blow away my bookmark file and can't remember the name of the organization. doh! could you please resend the info, privately? it was better than any of the similar pages i've stumbled across. >> Alright- I blew this off when it came in, but Doug has made me want to see it. At the mercy of all you Fegs, could we have it posted to the list again? Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ From: bryanm@doc.state.ok.us (Bryan Moore) Subject: Fw: Virus hoaxes (no robyn content) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:56:34 -0900 ---------- > From: Bryan Moore > To: Robyn Hitchcock Mail List > Subject: Virus hoaxes (no robyn content) > Date: Monday, January 06, 1997 11:05 AM > > Check out > > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/bulletins/h-05.shtml > > --- > Bryan > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .