From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V5 #3 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 5 Number 3 Saturday January 4 1997 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Tori, etc. Ice Cream Hands Re: Feg Digest V5 #2 Bingo Hand Job Re: Years Best (no-no-no RH) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:38:07 -0700 From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: Tori, etc. >From: mr bean jeans > >i've been a KaTefan for years, but have liked tori amos from her >solo start. frankly, i don't >see any more similarity between KaTe and tori than the fact that they >both have ovaries and play the piano. KaTe comes from an arty, fantasy >place, while tori comes from a gritty earthy place. their piano styles >are dramatically different. never understood how anyone else heard >otherwise. Well, I dunno...their voices sound very similar...Tori also overdubs her vocals in a very Kate-like way...their songwriting styles are both very theatrical and often pretentious to a fault.... I really wouldn't call Tori "gritty" myself. If Amos is gritty, what does that make Courtney Love? I shudder to think! ;) I got Little Earthquakes when it was brand-new, based on the fact that I thought "Silent All These Years" was a really pretty song. Then when I heard the whole album (especially "Happy Phantom," which could segue perfectly into "Suspended In Gaffa"), the Kate similarities really hit me. That said, I think Tori's music is sizeably inferior to Ms. Bush's. I like my least favorite Bush album more than anything by Amos. I think Amos works too hard on that samey chromatic/classical aspect of her piano-playing, at the expense of writing a decent tune. Plus, I was really alienated when I saw Tori live. Her smug performing style turns me off big-time. I loathe the way she smirks into the audience during the whole concert. The whole allure of intimate music such as hers is its "eavesdropping" quality. When you see some piano player singing with her eyes closed, her face straining as she hits the chords, you really get a sense of her retreating into herself and baring her soul. With Tori, all you get is that arrogant little smile, as if to say, "Hey folks, I'm pretty great, eh?" Ick. I'll keep buying the records, but I never want to see her live again. >From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) > > I've encountered the comparison of Beck's lyrics to Robyn >Hitchcock's > before, but I just don't hear it. Robyn's lyrics, for the most part, > seem to have a certain emotional resonance, while Beck's just seem > surreal for surreal's sake. And that ain't poetry to me. I think Odelay is far less surreal-for-surreal's-sake than Mellow Gold, which I thought was really overrated as an album. (Actually, I liked One Foot In The Grave more than Mellow Gold.) And I DO get a lot of emotional resonance from Odelay...especially in the "lonesome vagabond"-type songs. And I would never think to compare Beck to RH, myself. Beck's style is much more rooted in the American backwoods talking-folk style than Hitchcock's, which is more of a traditional European melodic-folk thing. Ya know? >From: hollie_satterfield@mail.amsinc.com > >I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the CD "Murder Ballads" by >Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. I mentioned Murder Ballads before. It was on my "Biggest Disappointments of '96" list. In fact, it might be THE disappointment of 1996 for me, along with the new Lou Reed. ;) Eb PS I may be a longtime Kate Bush fan, but I still don't understand why the hardcore Love Hounds spell it "KaTe." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 01:25:57 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Ice Cream Hands Just noticed this from the liner notes to "What's The Story?" (yes, I do own this album, and it is rather good IMHO, thank you much :)) : "Coming down off the nova somewhere near the boiled egg that is the Royal Albert Hall, we watch Paul's sun crossed with John's star and hold ice cream hands." Wonder where they got that nifty turn of phrase? Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 00:31:36 +0100 (MET) From: Ole Skjefte Subject: Re: Feg Digest V5 #2 At 21:10 03.01.97 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 23:15:47 -0500 >From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) >Subject: Best of '96 (I give up) >> >Top 10 Albums (in no order) > > ROBYN HITCHCOCK Mossy Liquor (which I do believe is just a tad superior to >Moss Elixir) > REM New Adventures In Hi-Fi (I'm sorry, but these guys will most likely >always make my top 10 list, if they release an album that is) RIGHT YOU ARE, MY FRIEND!!!!!With the Warner-signing of 5 album the next 10 years, I guess you will have a new album from the best band ever in 1998 - 2000 ( 31.12.99??? ) 2002 - 2004 - 2006 I got the Jonny Polonsky-album: Hi My Name Is Jonny for X-mas and I like it a lot and I strongly recommend: Loud Family: Interbabe Concern, Cracker: Modern Age and ALL OF VIC CHESNUTT's ALBUMS!!!! See you around! I'm outta here! Ole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 00:32:01 +0100 (MET) From: Ole Skjefte Subject: Bingo Hand Job At 21:10 03.01.97 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:30:19 GMT >From: Phil Edwards >Subject: Hitchcock, Stipe, Williams, Hansen and Hersh > >Not a firm of lawyers but some thoughts sparked off by the "other >bands doing Hitchcock stuff" discussion... > >I've got an Italian REM bootleg which credits Billy Bragg (guitar & >vocals) and RH (guitar) on one track, Dylan's "You ain't going >nowhere". I can't hear Bragg (whose real name is Stephen Williams, >incidentally) but RH definitely has a few lines. Not least in the >pre-song chat - >Stipe: "I'll do the part about the Mongols" >RH: "The mongrels? What's the bit about the mongrels?" >Stipe: (mumble, mumble, pre-song forgotten-lyric panic...) >RH: "Well, just tell them about the mongrels". >Stipe: "This is a song about the mongrels..." > >Two tracks later REM do a cover of "Mrs Robinson", with an uncredited >Hitchcock on lead vocal and, well, someone else doing harmony. RH in >best sardonic form - makes the whole song sound slightly seedy >without undermining its happy pop quality, which is quite a trick >really (he does this a lot on _Globe of Frogs_). I've no idea when or >where these tracks were recorded. > > I'm not sure what bootleg you are refering to, but I guess it "Covering 'em". I guess "You ain't goin' nowhere" is from Borderline, London - the track was played both 14./15 March 1991 at Borderline, London as Bingo Hand Job - REM + BB/RH/Peter Holsapple. There is a bootleg called "From the Borderline" (15.3.91 - 2CD - also incl. Milan show from 22.March 1991 ) It's the last song of the evening and I guess all 7 are playing. I have a pretty good video from the show, but I haven't checked. The show of 14.March is only circulating on tape, as far as I know. It's promotion for Out of Time and although they do a lot of covers, there's no BB/RH-covers the last evening. On the 14th they play RH: Sometimes I wish I was a Pretty Girl/Birds in perspex/Ballon man/So you think you're in love. Although BB takes part ( I really like Michael and BB perform "My youngest son came home today" ) there is no cover of his songs. Speaking ob Billy Bragg - Anyone with a spare copy of "Tighten up your wig" with Peter Buck and the Athenians w/DJ Woody Dee???? Or info where to get it?? "Mrs.Robinson" is from 19.03.93 - RH and Mike Mills in Waterloo Records Shop, Austin, TX, where they did the Yip song/(Don't go back to) Rockville/Man on the moon/Arms of Love/Stuck in the middle with you/Mrs.Robinson I'm outta here! Ole ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:40:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Years Best (no-no-no RH) > And how about Vic Chesnutt? > Vic Rocked! Not the best CD I picked up in 96 (but there was VERY stiff competition..Village Green Preservation Society, Gideon Gaye, Element of Light, Moss Elixer, etc. Best new CD I picked up in 96, though) Terry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .