From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #255 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 255 Thursday December 19 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Live Death Re: Live Death Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise a skull, a scanner, and a long, red bottle of wine derivation of "robyn" Re: GOOD TIMES! Re: Donovan (FA to do with Robyn really) Re: 1974 & 1976 Re: GOOD TIMES! Re: GOOD TIMES! newcomer Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise Covers (again?) Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise speaking of covers Re: Covers (again?) Re: 1974 Re: misc Re: Live Death RE: misc Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise maisie busts a move Big Mac Attack Robyn Covered Re: Covers (again?) holidaze Robyn with a Y Withered and Died/Live Death Re: misc Re: 1974 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:17:36 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Live Death On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Gordon Shumway wrote: > At 18:02 17.12.96 -0700, E.B. wrote: > > >6. Withered And Died 3:15 > > Could this song possibly have become "Bright Fresh Flower"? I know that BFF > has the same phrase in its lyrics. > > --g > Aren't you thinking of "Birdshead"? I don't recall "Bright Fresh Flower" having that phrase in the lyrics, but "Birdshead" definitely does. Love on ya, Susan "When someone says 'I'm only human', it's usually because they've just made a beast of themselves" - "A Private Function" ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:22:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Live Death In a message dated 96-12-18 12:53:28 EST, glen@metro.net writes: > >6. Withered And Died 3:15 > Could this song possibly have become "Bright Fresh Flower"? I know that BFF > has the same phrase in its lyrics. actually, i think it's a richard thompson song, but i'm not sure...... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:11:39 -0800 From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts RD) Subject: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise Today's Addicted to Noise has a piece on the Hitchcock/Demme film. It's at http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/MNOTW/ Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 16:31:50 -0800 From: Tom Clark "The Lobster Gang" , "Steve Clark" >http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/MNOTW/ >From Addicted To Noise: Robyn Hitchcock Filming Completed Film due next fall. Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Robyn Hitchcock just wrapped two days of shooting for his Jonathan Demme (Silence of the Lambs)-directed live movie, tentatively titled Storefront Hitchcock. Hitchcock, who surprised the crew and director by pulling four new songs out of his guitar case (which may or may not be in the movie, but will appear on the soundtrack, according to a source), played the two-a-day sets in front of an intimate (100-150) audience of fans who signed up for the honor at the merchandise booth of a November Hitchcock show. Hitchcock, "looked great, had a lot of fun and was very loose," according to our man on the scene. The working title is courtesy of the set, which was an actual storefront, so you might catch some Big Apple fans strolling by if you pay close attention when the movie comes out, sometime next fall. Our source also confirmed that this will be a straight live show, like Demme's Talking Heads movie, Stop Making Sense, with no interviews, "just straight performance." Although, there's a possibility some "special effects" could be added after the fact. "This won't be a greatest hits thing, because the older songs were all done a bit differently. It will be a very interesting live record," said our spy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:46:28 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: a skull, a scanner, and a long, red bottle of wine anybody out there have access to a good color scanner and all/most of robyn's album's covers? i'd like to replace the ugly black and white scans on the hopefully not-looked-at-very-often rhino re-issue web page with nice, nifty color ones for the soon-to-be-completed discography page which i plan on adding to the site after the holidaze. contact me off-list if you can help... thanks, woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:43:21 -0500 From: Alex Tanter Subject: derivation of "robyn" It's a diminutive form of Robert. Robyn/Robin was a man's name until fairly recently, in historical terms. Marcy ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:48:56 -0500 Subject: Re: GOOD TIMES! Truman Peyote wrote: > At least you don't know all of the words to the "Patty Duke Show" theme > song. Wish I could say I didn't. "One pair of matching bookends Different as night and day" I think I've been infected... -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:15:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Donovan (FA to do with Robyn really) Truman Peyote wrote: > As per Sparkling Eno: I don't know how widely available it is here in the > States. I found it in an Indian market that specialized in Indian and > British products, and just had to have it- I don't even know how effective > it is for the ailments in question, as that is not really what I bought it > for :). I haven't seen it in awhile (although I don't shop for antacids) but I picked up a bottle of it back around 1982 or so. I still have it though I never used it so I don't know if it's any good. Since the expiration date on the bottle is sometime in 1984 I don't think I ever will be using this batch - especially since the white powder within seems to have solidified into a rock. I saw the name, though and, like you, I just had to have it. -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:37:14 -0500 Subject: Re: 1974 & 1976 E.B. wrote: > Records I would recommend to a friend from 1976 (no order): A Trick Of The > Tail, Wind & Wuthering, Station To Station, 801 Live, Radio Ethiopia, Songs > In The Key Of Life, Small Change, Ramones, Let's Stick Together, Heat > Treatment, Howlin Wind and Fingerprince. (You fill in the artists...nyaah.) I love that you have a Residents release in that list...very cool. -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:45:59 -0500 Subject: Re: GOOD TIMES! Naha-Ru wrote: > I've just gotten out of therapy to help me forget that I used to watch "Love > Boat" and "Fantasy Island", now I'll have to start again to try to repress > the memory of "Dukes", "Dallas", and "Good Times". > Have a DYN-O-MITE holiday season, Oh no!!!! After reading this I suddenly hear the theme to "The Ropers" in my head. Now I'm visualizing the opening credit sequence. Help me. Help me.... -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:51:18 -0500 Subject: Re: GOOD TIMES! Dot, the Itchy God. wrote: > repressing the memories of "good times" would be a shame. a brilliant > piece of urban realism beamed across the nation. it truly was > dynOmite. given the range that television allows itself to operate in, > this was at the better end. AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:14:52 -0600 From: LSDiamond Subject: newcomer hi... i'm new here.. *grin* LSDiamond ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:27:45 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Tom Clark wrote: > Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Robyn > Hitchcock, "looked great, had a lot of fun and was very loose," The musical circles round here use the term "loose" to mean "under-rehearsed, sloppy, forgot the ending, got the verses in the wrong order" - that kind of thing. Does it have another meaning? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:13:59 +0000 From: Bret Subject: Covers (again?) just wondering if anyone has a list of covers *of* Robyn, (all I have is REM)......but am very curious to see what else there is...preferably recorded (so I can get 'em) but why not live as well? sounds interesting............ ----Bret ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:34:59 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise > > Hitchcock, "looked great, had a lot of fun and was very loose," > > The musical circles round here use the term "loose" to mean > "under-rehearsed, sloppy, forgot the ending, got the verses in the wrong > order" - that kind of thing. Does it have another meaning? I think the ATN writer is referring to the big R's manner, not his musicianship. Perhaps saying he was relaxed. It's funny how RH is often shy and self conscious off stage, then transforms into a wild man when performing "kung fu fighting". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:07:19 -0500 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: speaking of covers Robyn recorded a beautiful version of "Wild Mountain Thyme" w/Pete Buck for a tribute album back around 1990 or so. I've since lost my recording of it and I wonder if any of you might have a copy of it. Will work out some interesting trade. Paula ------------------------------ From: Terry_Linnig@hccompare.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 09:54:18 cst Subject: Re: Covers (again?) Bret wrote: Subject: Re: 1974 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:32:15 -0800 At 14:41 13.12.96 -0700, E.B. wrote: >All you guys are posting these elaborate "1974 theories," relating it to >Irish politics and Robyn's childhood experiences, etc., etc. Meanwhile, >everyone ignored my comments about what Robyn HIMSELF said about the >song/year in concert. If I remember correctly, he said something about 1974 being the beginning of the end of everything "we" had worked for in the sixties? Do I get a cookie? --glen, who is hoping for a "Tickle Me Elizabeth Hurley" doll for Christmas... *********************** Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ *********************** "Oh many a peer of England brews Livelier liquor than the muse, And malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man." ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 10:33:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: misc > "Lennon mattered so much. You can't imagine anyone shooting McCartney > 'cause he wouldn't really matter." > - Robyn Hitchcock, 11/8 interview in the Washington Post > which I don't think anybody here has transcribed yet BTW One could argue that a LOT of people wanted to shoot McCartney after they bought "McCartney II". ------------------------------ From: Gordon Shumway Subject: Re: Live Death Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:18:00 -0800 At 17:17 18.12.96 -0600, Truman Peyote wrote: >Aren't you thinking of "Birdshead"? I don't recall "Bright Fresh Flower" >having that phrase in the lyrics, but "Birdshead" definitely does. > How completely absent-minded of me! Of course I was thinking of "Birdshead". And I had just finished listening to "Y&O", too... --g *********************** Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ *********************** "Oh many a peer of England brews Livelier liquor than the muse, And malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man." ************************ ------------------------------ From: Robert Sutton Subject: RE: misc Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:34:19 -0800 >> "Lennon mattered so much. You can't imagine anyone shooting McCartney >One could argue that a LOT of people wanted to shoot McCartney after they >bought "McCartney II". Or when they heard "Spies Like Us". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) From: Roseann Cappella Subject: Re: Hitchcock filming at Addicted to Noise I think in this instance "loose" means relaxed, confident and connected. Bob Weidner On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Tom Clark wrote: > > Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Robyn > > Hitchcock, "looked great, had a lot of fun and was very loose," > > The musical circles round here use the term "loose" to mean > "under-rehearsed, sloppy, forgot the ending, got the verses in the wrong > order" - that kind of thing. Does it have another meaning? > > - Mike Godwin > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:47:46 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: maisie busts a move I was listening to _you and oblivion_ the other day on headphones, and maisie's cameos really jump out. she even kicks out a freestyle beat-box jam at one point. ------------------------------ From: Gordon Shumway Subject: Big Mac Attack Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:00:39 -0800 At 11:34 19.12.96 -0800, Robert Sutton wrote: > >>> "Lennon mattered so much. You can't imagine anyone shooting McCartney > >>One could argue that a LOT of people wanted to shoot McCartney after they >>bought "McCartney II". > >Or when they heard "Spies Like Us". How about "Press To Play"? Or as I prefer to call it, "Press To Eject". The eighties were definitely NOT kind to Pauly. --g *********************** Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ *********************** "Oh many a peer of England brews Livelier liquor than the muse, And malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man." ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:07:36 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Robyn Covered here are a few i know of- arms of love-- two separate versions by REM and stipey solo [in defense of animals comp] neither one especially good chinese bones-- Suzanne Vega with the Dead at madison square garden '88 i wanna destroy you-- dozens of bands including the replacements, uncle tupelo, mood 6, let's talk about girls, and debbie gibson with the circle jerks madonna of the wasps-- indigo girls (anyone know if this is in print?) man who invented himself- replacements she doesn't exist- vic chesnutt (disco remix) plus of course all the other _glass flesh_ artists who grace this list superman-- sonic youth (introduced as "some naive pop song") where are the prawns- the king of luxembourg ye sleeping knights of jesus-- replacements (drunken versin on _the shit hits the fans_) Think these guys like RH at all? :) Anybody got any more? did the Bangles ever get around to doing a robyn tune? (you probably know baloon man was written with them in mind). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:14:00 -0500 From: mrrunion@tng.net (Runion, Michael R.) Subject: Re: Covers (again?) At 03:13 PM 12/19/96 +0000, you wrote: > >just wondering if anyone has a list of covers *of* Robyn, (all I have is >REM)......but am very curious to see what else there is...preferably >recorded (so I can get 'em) but why not live as well? > First of all, hello...I'm new here. Secondly, a deadhead friend of mine (and no, I'm not one myself) has a boot of a rather brilliant rendition of "Chinese Bones" that the band did with Suzanne Vega on vocals. Another Soft Boys cover: Uncle Tupelo doing "I Wanna Destroy You" (b-side of the "Gun" 45). __________________________________________________________ Mike & Dianne Runion Cocoa, Florida email: mrrunion@tng.net (home) email: Michael.Runion-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov WWW: http://www.spacecoast.net/users/mrrunion/default.htm "A perfect circle of acquaintances and friends, Drink another, coin a phrase..." -REM __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:38:17 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: holidaze fegs, i'm going to be out of town with sporadic (and spasmotic) net.access until next friday (the 27th). as such, digests will be delivered on a random (as opposed to daily) basis until i get back. digest subscribers who will be around during christmas week in need of a daily fegfix may wish to switch tothe regular list. to do so, send this message to majordomo@ecto.org: unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest subscribe fegmaniax you can always switch back when things return to "normal" (not you, terry; i mean the usual state of reality around here). while i'm being administrivial, let me also ask that anyone whose account is going to go away due to the end of the semester please unsubscribe yourself from the list before the account is deleted. i tend to be more ruthless about bounces this time of year.... happy holidaze to all of you who celebrate any of them, woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:46:53 GMT From: Phil Edwards Subject: Robyn with a Y New subscriber calling... My name's Phil. Once, long ago, I heard _Wading through a Ventilator_ on the radio. I bought it the next day or thereabouts, and was very into the Soft Boys from then until they disintegrated. I missed a lot of RH's solo stuff but am now catching up. Also, I once sang one number with a "band" (two blokes with guitars) called Shovel Robinson - who'd blagged their way onto the bottom of a bill headed by the Soft Boys - for no other reason than that I knew the words and they didn't. I could go back and make that sentence more comprehensible, but I've spent far too long on this paragraph already (I'm sure I didn't have those... leaves... when I started...) Aaaaanyway, I've never considered Robin or Robyn a "girl's name"; I think its use by women is a recent phenomenon & confined mainly to 'Merka. Incidentally, I always assumed it was spelt with a Y because there's a Y in Syd (Barrett, that is). A friend of mine was convinced RH was a reincarnation of Barrett (yes, I know he's still alive, bear with me), but partly on the grounds of Kimberley Rew's guitar-playing. Which was played by Kimberley Rew. And not Robyn. Which probably proves my point... -- Phil Edwards amroth@zetnet.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:54:15 -0800 From: Ferris Subject: Withered and Died/Live Death I think, though I'm not positive, that "Withered and Died" is a Richard Thompson tune. . . -ferris. -- ". . .if you're deep enough in denial to actually think that you had a happy childhood, then your shrink will tell you, you must be forgetting something." -Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:29:11 -0500 From: james isaacs Subject: Re: misc At 10:33 AM 12/19/96 -0800, you wrote: >> "Lennon mattered so much. You can't imagine anyone shooting McCartney > >> 'cause he wouldn't really matter." >> - Robyn Hitchcock, 11/8 interview in the Washington Post >> which I don't think anybody here has transcribed yet BTW > > >One could argue that a LOT of people wanted to shoot McCartney after they >bought "McCartney II". Hey, I like McCartney II! I admire Paul's courage to do something completely different. What a visionary. Admittedly, 2 or 3 songs suck after the passage of time, but I liked it when I was 10, and I like it now. And, if it is coming down to Lennon v. McCartney albums, the gunman just missed his target. Perhaps John jumped in the bullet's path. In poor taste, James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:10:15 -0600 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: 1974 At 10:32 AM 12/19/96 -0800, Gordon Shumway wrote: >--glen, who is hoping for a "Tickle Me Elizabeth Hurley" doll for Christmas... I'm holding out for the "Tickle Me Michele Forbes" doll myself... attempting to be his own love object, Miles ===================================================================== "Fundamentally, punk has very little history. It was invented circa 1975 by Pere Ubu . . . championed by a few New York art groups, picked up on by British music journalists, and then reinvented in Britain by the Sex Pistols. By 1977 it has ceased to have any relevance. The fact that it then took 20 years to get sold back to the U.S. is merely a marketing statistic." -- Colin Newman of Wire in _Alternative Press_, Jan. '97 Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .