From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #252 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 252 Monday December 16 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- mountain stage Utah Phillips? (no RH content) Feglister's indie band needs help (very little RH content) robyns increased popularity review Re: robyns increased popularity robyns increased popularity Re: robyns increased popularity Re: 1974 & 1976 Re: robyns increased popularity Re: 1974 & 1976 Re: number nine...number nine... re: after school specials fear and tuning in fegmaniax re: after school specials Re: fear and tuning in fegmaniax Dylan Show at the Borderline re: after school specials HELP! Mtn. Stage needed! oops.. Mtn Stage me too! Re: Mtn Stage me too! Pet Sounds and Children Feels like nineteen seventy blah Re: 1974 & 1976 Re: Pet Sounds and Children Re: autre temps Some Homer Info... The great CD purge Re: Demme more? Concert films what's the meaning of this?! Re: what's the meaning of this?! Re: Pet Sounds and Children ...never having to say Surrey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:03:30 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: mountain stage i just checked the program listings of the local station which broadcasts mountain stage in the new york city area (wfuv 90.7 fm) and they are playing the show with robyn and donovan this evening at 9pm. i'm not sure if they are at the beginning or end of the mountain stage broadcast week, so it would probably behoove most of you to check your local listings. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:01:40 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Utah Phillips? (no RH content) Anyone ever heard of this guy? A friend recommended this highly to me, said I would like it if I liked Robyn and Vic Chesnutt. That is, it was highly recommended, as opposed to my friend being high and recommending music (which would not be that rare of an situation either, come to think of it). lj ------------------------------ From: SVagrant@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:56:08 -0500 Subject: Feglister's indie band needs help (very little RH content) Fegs, Apologies for wasting some people's band width. I need some help. My band, the Delusions have just finished our 14 song tape. I have designed the J-Card on Microsoft word. I had had access to a color printer to print the inserts and all was cool. I've got about 2/3 of the covers printed and now have lost access to the color printer. Do any of you have the ablility to print fifteen color pages? I will cover all costs for your materials and time. Please contact me if you can help. Thanks a lot Matt **** Robyn Content **** Many of Robyn's record covers are printed and in color and contain artwork that he created, however none of his records contain a song called Prospect Street. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: MichaelHooker Subject: robyns increased popularity hello, the day Robyn's music is embraced by the masses is the day i will cease to listen to it, cause it will only mean that his music turned to crap! think about what is selling millions of records right now. The list of totally lousy bands is mind boggling. Bush, live, dishwalla, i get almost physically sick. listening to the antidote, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:40:38 -0500 (EST) From: MichaelHooker Subject: review hello, there is a free paper on long island , ny, called the island ear. they gave Robyn's gig at the beacon the worst review i have ever read. it was so obvious the writer had no appreciation of robyns work. you might as well have sent me to review a rap concert. and, boy , did the guy kiss billy bragg's ass. did anyone else see this "review"? Mike Hooker ps- there was a picture of robyn in the black and white checked shirt. it was about the best picture i have seen of him in a long time. he looked youthful, happy, and trim. there was a picture of billy bragg too. his face looked like an old catchers mitt. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:49:40 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene Subject: Re: robyns increased popularity On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, MichaelHooker wrote: > hello, > the day Robyn's music is embraced by the masses is the day i will > cease to listen to it, cause it will only mean that his music turned to > crap! think about what is selling millions of records right now. The list of > totally lousy bands is mind boggling. Bush, live, dishwalla, i get almost > physically sick. > > listening to the antidote, > Mike Hooker > > That's a completely silly attitude. There are plenty of good popular bands. R.E.M. is selling millions, I remember hearing that the Beatles were big in their day. As long as Robyn is making the music he wants to, I don't think we will have a problem. It's true that there is obviously a special feeling that no one really knows of Robyn and he's like special thing to the people that know of him, but to say you won't listen to him just because someone else is, is pointless. If Robyn becomes popular, and all of a sudden Airscape is a big hit, are you going to not like the song anymore? Sure if he decides to put a phat dance beat to it and make some kind of Isle of White Club Edit 5, that would be sad, but I really doubt it. -Eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: MichaelHooker Subject: robyns increased popularity eugene wrote: That's a completely silly attitude. There are plenty of good popular bands. R.E.M. is selling millions, I remember hearing that the Beatles were big in their day. As long as Robyn is making the music he wants to, I don't think we will have a problem. It's true that there is obviously a special feeling that no one really knows of Robyn and he's like special thing to the people that know of him, but to say you won't listen to him just because someone else is, is pointless. If Robyn becomes popular, and all of a sudden Airscape is a big hit, are you going to not like the song anymore? Sure if he decides to put a phat dance beat to it and make some kind of Isle of White Club Edit 5, that would be sad, but I really doubt it. hey eugene, do you really think if robyn suddenly started putting out crappy music that his previously recorded music would magically be crap too? i merely was commenting on the lowest common denominator type of music that is popular today. REM is a glaring exception to the rule. After 20 + years, robyn is not going to get much more popular, unless he starting putting out the kind of mind numbing garbage that sells big today. by the way, i like the fact that i never here the word " phat" associated with Robyn's music . Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:00:24 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene Subject: Re: robyns increased popularity On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, MichaelHooker wrote: > hey eugene, > do you really think if robyn suddenly started putting out crappy > music that his previously recorded music would magically be crap too? i > merely was commenting on the lowest common denominator type of music that is > popular today. REM is a glaring exception to the rule. After 20 + years, > robyn is not going to get much more popular, unless he starting putting out > the kind of mind numbing garbage that sells big today. by the way, i like > the fact that i never here the word " phat" associated with Robyn's music . > > Mike Hooker > > I think that many people could enjoy Robyn's music, and that he could also become popular simply through better marketting or whatever. There are various bands that don't experience success till a much later album. It's true that Robyn hasn't really experienced success after 20+ years, but he has also had a great deal of critical success. I remember reading in Rolling Stone that they thought Underwater Moonlight was one of the best undiscovered albums of the 80's. My point is, it doesn't make sense to assume that his popularity will cause bad music. His A&M years are often looked down upon in ways. Personally, I really like QE, I think She Doesn't Exist is an amazing song, and really I like all the A&M stuff. I think they pushed him towards a more commercial direction, but I think he still did good stuff. WB seems to have been very good to Robyn. I don't think he's doing anything he doesn't want to be. I guess I've also seen a lot of people say how they'll hate some band when that band becomes more famous or commercial. Often, it's said before the artist releases this so-called "commercial" album. I think there are a lot of good popular artists. I think Beck is excellent. Liz Phair is popular but great. R.E.M., again. I even like U2's new stuff. (I might be the only one there.) It's true that popularity can ruine a lot of bands, but I think making such a hasty decision before seeing the product is a scary attitude. Basically, popularity does not equal death. -Eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:21:13 -0700 From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: 1974 & 1976 >From: Truman Peyote > >You missed "Sticky Fingers" :). Sticky Fingers was in 1971, dearie. By 1974, the Stones had deteriorated into It's Only Rock And Roll (yawn). ;) >I don't think you can call '76 a nadir exactly, more of a cauldron. Stuff >was brewing that exploded in '77- not just the obvious punk explosion, >either- but the return of excellent power pop (a la Nick Lowe, Graham >Parker, et al) and the beginning of Bowie's Berlin period, as well as the >start of the Indie Revolution (linked to, of course, both punk and the >return of excellent power pop :)). Aside from that, there was some >excellent soul/R&B music being made and produced by one Curtis Mayfield, >and there was a fellow named John Cale who was perhaps at his creative >peak around that time. Sheesh, give up on the Cale gushings already! Anyway, 1) according to my Trouser Press Guide, Cale didn't even release anything in 1976, and 2) Cale peaked around 1973-1974. ;P Records I would recommend to a friend from 1976 (no order): A Trick Of The Tail, Wind & Wuthering, Station To Station, 801 Live, Radio Ethiopia, Songs In The Key Of Life, Small Change, Ramones, Let's Stick Together, Heat Treatment, Howlin Wind and Fingerprince. (You fill in the artists...nyaah.) A pretty weak list, IMO. You can see how punk grew out of this year -- SOMETHING needed to be done! :) >There are a LOT of "rock >films" that stand up to repeated viewings. How about "Gimme Shelter", for >starters, or "Performance", or "Don't Look Back", or "The Last Waltz", or >"A Hard Day's Night" or even "Quadrophenia." OK, here we agree...the very same films I might cite. ;) Although, I would never call Performance a rock film. Eric B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:47:43 -0600 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: robyns increased popularity At 01:32 PM 12/15/96 -0500, MichaelHooker wrote: >hello, > the day Robyn's music is embraced by the masses is the day i will >cease to listen to it, cause it will only mean that his music turned to >crap! think about what is selling millions of records right now. The list of >totally lousy bands is mind boggling. Bush, live, dishwalla, i get almost >physically sick. Is this some kind of trolling? I'm not going to flog this dead horse too much longer, but what you're basically saying is that you let other people decide what records you listen to -- i.e., if everyone else is listening to it, therefore I shall not buy it? IMO (of course) this is almost as misguided as listening to things BECAUSE they're popular. While it's true that most things in the top 40 are godawful, shouldn't you judge an album by the quality of the songs and performances rather than by how many cheerleaders own it? I *hope* what you're saying is that you'd stop listening to Robyn if he started sounding Bush-league. Then I'd join you. Personally, I think Robyn's lack of success has more to do with improper marketing AND the advent of grunge uber alles (remember, _Nevermind_ -- and mind you, I like _Nevermind_ -- was the album that knocked _Perspex Island_ off of the #1 spot on the alternative charts in 1991) than some kind of intrinsic quality that makes him unlistenable and unfathomable to the general public. He writes catchy, melodic numbers that, despite their lyrical gyrations, would sound absolutely great blaring across the radio. In fact, it's a lot harder for me to understand how R.E.M., who create dense, murky, oblique stuff that's moore about feel than poppiness, have managed to sell millions. If I had taken bets in 1985, I would have said that Robyn, the Hoodoo Gurus, the dB's, X, and many others would have gone gold and found radio airplay before R.E.M. In fact, I think Pete Buck said the same thing in an interview a couple of years ago... Later, Miles ===================================================================== "Fundamentally, punk has very little history. It was invented circa 1975 by Pere Ubu . . . championed by a few New York art groups, picked up on by British music journalists, and then reinvented in Britain by the Sex Pistols. By 1977 it has ceased to have any relevance. The fact that it then took 20 years to get sold back to the U.S. is merely a marketing statistic." -- Colin Newman of Wire in _Alternative Press_, Jan. '97 Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:33:07 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: 1974 & 1976 On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, E.B. wrote: > >From: Truman Peyote > > > >You missed "Sticky Fingers" :). > > Sticky Fingers was in 1971, dearie. By 1974, the Stones had deteriorated > into It's Only Rock And Roll (yawn). ;) Yes, I know. Many people have already pointed this out to me. Geez, can't a person make a mistake once in awhile? :) I'm not really that big a Stones fan, in fact that's the only Stones album I own, so I'm not too clear on the chronology of their records. > Sheesh, give up on the Cale gushings already! Anyway, 1) > according to my Trouser Press Guide, Cale didn't even release anything in > 1976, and 2) Cale peaked around 1973-1974. ;P 1. You're right. But he was doing fantastic live shows around that time, some people think his best ever, and this is what I was actually referring to. 2. "Slow Dazzle" was what? A valley? :) > >There are a LOT of "rock > >films" that stand up to repeated viewings. How about "Gimme Shelter", for > >starters, or "Performance", or "Don't Look Back", or "The Last Waltz", or > >"A Hard Day's Night" or even "Quadrophenia." > > OK, here we agree...the very same films I might cite. ;) Although, I > would never call Performance a rock film. Well, one could argue that it is, since it is very much about the rock and roll star mystique, but if you insist................. By the same token, perhaps "Quadrophenia" should not be called a rock and roll film either, strictly speaking Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:42:54 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: number nine...number nine... >James Dignan wrote: > >> John Lennon was obsessed with the number 9. Revolution #9, #9 Dream... He >> was born on the 9th, and died on the 9th. > >Lennon was murdered on December 8, 1980. However, his son Sean was born >on the 9th of October (same as John). >Numerology...sillier than astrology! >And who REALLY was the walrus?!? hmmm... I was forgetting about the date line. It was definitely the 9th here in NZ (yes, I do know exactly what I was doing and where I was when I heard the news) James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:36:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Dot, the Itchy God." Subject: re: after school specials On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Truman Peyote wrote: > > > > OK, here we agree...the very same films I might cite. ;) Although, I > > would never call Performance a rock film. > > Well, one could argue that it is, since it is very much about the rock and > roll star mystique, but if you insist................. > By the same token, perhaps "Quadrophenia" should not be called a rock and > roll film either, strictly speaking i would not even call it a *film*, movie is stretching it too. yet, to call it an after-school special degrades all of the fine after-school specials i think i might have seen. this movie, as i'll call it here, has the worst 'love scene' i have ever come across, it makes some male-porn-fantasy-movie look real, yacck! .chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:36:38 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: fear and tuning in fegmaniax After bathing at Maxwell's, Aidan provided guitarists with broken strings everywhere... >EBGDAD I sincerely hope that's EBDGAD! >>I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of fegs would love "Paris >>1919", one of the most nearly perfect albums ever created. In some ways, >>I find it almost a natural companion piece to "Element of Light". >Sure, Paris 1919 is great, but come on, how about Fear? Especially seeing >as how you're a "renowned Eno nutter?" Seriously, I do like Fear a bit >more than Paris 1919, just because the music has a bit more room to >breathe. dunno - for some reason I just prefer Paris 1919. P'raps fear's just a little too dark in places. Then again, itr does have my all time favourite Cale song (Buffalo Ballet). James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:58:29 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: re: after school specials On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Dot, the Itchy God. wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Truman Peyote wrote: > > > > > > > OK, here we agree...the very same films I might cite. ;) Although, I > > > would never call Performance a rock film. > > > > Well, one could argue that it is, since it is very much about the rock and > > roll star mystique, but if you insist................. > > By the same token, perhaps "Quadrophenia" should not be called a rock and > > roll film either, strictly speaking > > i would not even call it a *film*, movie is stretching it too. yet, > to call it an after-school special degrades all of the fine > after-school specials i think i might have seen. this movie, as i'll > call it here, has the worst 'love scene' i have ever come across, it > makes some male-porn-fantasy-movie look real, yacck! Yes, you are completely right. And yet there are actually a few sensitive moments in the film as well, which makes for a very odd viewing experience. The only things about it that make me really cringe are that aforementioned "love" scene and the part at the end where he yells "ME!", the former because it's crude and awful, and the latter because it's just stupid and lame. I think though (someone correct me if I'm wrong), that the film is probably a very accurate representation of the way women were perceived/treated in the mod culture, and for this reason its very obvious and vicious sexism doesn't bother me as much as it maybe should, as I see it as reflective in nature. Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:03:35 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: fear and tuning in fegmaniax On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, James Dignan wrote: > After bathing at Maxwell's, Aidan provided guitarists with broken strings > everywhere... > > >EBGDAD > > I sincerely hope that's EBDGAD! I'll try it the other way. I need to change my strings soon anyway :). Seriously, though, I have a hunch that that's what Aidan MEANT. > >Sure, Paris 1919 is great, but come on, how about Fear? Especially seeing > >as how you're a "renowned Eno nutter?" Seriously, I do like Fear a bit > >more than Paris 1919, just because the music has a bit more room to > >breathe. > > dunno - for some reason I just prefer Paris 1919. P'raps fear's just a > little too dark in places. Then again, itr does have my all time favourite > Cale song (Buffalo Ballet). Well, "Paris" has its dark moments as well- what about "Antarctica Starts Here", for example? But in general, I prefer it too- perhaps because it is bit more lyrical? Dunno. Funny, "Buffalo Ballet" is my favorite Cale song too, and my ex-boyfriend's. Hmm...... Love on ya, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 20:58:38 -0800 From: Ferris Subject: Dylan Show at the Borderline Greetings, Fegs! I'm quite new to the list, so let me introduce myslelf: I'm Ferris and I'm posting from Connecticut (in the States). I'm quite pissed I missed the show at the Beacon (and the taping as well) but Robyn's been quite elusive for me. It's seemed I've missed dates by a day or two all over the place. The last time I saw him (and the Egyptians) was in New Haven a few years back (three?). I remember it only as the night of the final episode of Cheers as he remarked about it and they played the theme song as well as they could at the start of the set. To the Point: Was anyone at the show Robyn put on in 25 May, 1996 at the Borderline in London? It's a gig of all Dylan songs in tribute to the thirty year anniversary of a Dylan/Hawks show at the Royal Albert Hall. I recently got a good disc of the show, bought on a whim. What I'm wondering is, were there songs that didn't make it onto the disc, and who the band is who backed him during the electric set? The backing band is called Homer. Other than that there's no mention. The disc contains: (Acoustic) She Belongs To Me Visions of Johanna Fourth Time Around It's All Over Now, Baby Blue Desolation Row (Electric) Tell Me Mama I Don't Believe You Baby, Let Me Follow You Down Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues Leopard Skin Pill-Box Hat One Too Many Mornings Balled Of A Thin Man Like A Rolling Stone Also: I'm looking to get a copy of the disc of a promo release from '92 (I think) that A&M put out called "Living Death" It's got a number of live tracks on it including Robyn slipping through a good version of "Day In the Life" Also a single from last year or so (I'm not sure of the A-side) that has a cover of a Psychedelic Furs tune. Again, I don't know which one. Any help? Thanks all and remember: don't get pinned under heavy machinery. ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Dot, the Itchy God." Subject: re: after school specials On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Truman Peyote wrote: > just stupid and lame. I think though (someone correct me if I'm wrong), > that the film is probably a very accurate representation of the way women > were perceived/treated in the mod culture, you're right. unlike most other 'sub-culture-ish' movements women were treated especially poor in mod circles. the high point in the treatment of women in any sub-group in my eye came in the late seventies and eighties. during this period men allowed for women to express themselves without the over burden of having to commit to any percieved notion of a man's ideal for a female's role. folk-tunsmiths such as a. young and s. tyler or d. roth all lead a movement to put behind us the notion that there was any difference between the sexes. without their pioneering work treatment of the sexes would be stuck with a mod/modette dicotomy. it is clear to me that we have all learned from this. now if robyn would get off his sexist horse and stop singing songs that offend the senibilites. does the man have no shame; a child of the sixties? sheesh .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:59:53 -0500 From: "Hal 'n' Carey" Subject: HELP! Mtn. Stage needed! sister ernestine wrote: > mountain stage >(wfuv 90.7 fm) is > playing the show with robyn and donovan this evening at 9pm. > check your local listings. I've got lots to trade if someone can make me a high quality dub of this show after it airs. Our local affiliate doesn't carry it. If you want to help me out and get a cool tape in return, email me privately. Thanks! hal ------------------------------ From: Aidan Cully Subject: oops.. Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:46:41 -0500 (EST) > On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, James Dignan wrote: > > > After bathing at Maxwell's, Aidan provided guitarists with broken strings > > everywhere... > > > > >EBGDAD > > > > I sincerely hope that's EBDGAD! > > I'll try it the other way. I need to change my strings soon anyway :). > Seriously, though, I have a hunch that that's what Aidan MEANT. I think this is the tuning for "You and Oblivion" that everyone is blaming me for.. I wrote it out from the high to the low.. by your notation, the tuning is DADGBE.. sorry for any confusion, I've not had to transcribe tunings w/o tabs before (speaking of which, if you go from the low to the high, reverse the order of all the chords I wrote out as well..) > Love on ya, > Susan wafflehead. --aidan Kungf who? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:03:32 -0500 From: Carpalman Subject: Mtn Stage me too! I echo Hal's sentiments. I don't have time to trade right now, but I sure would like a copy of this sometime. Did anyone tape it? Woj? /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "The Higsons come from Norwich Norwich, Massachusetts And they eat alot of pancakes..." -Billy Bragg, 16 Nov 96 \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:37:13 -0500 (EST) From: th xclmtn pt kd Subject: Re: Mtn Stage me too! On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Carpalman wrote: > I echo Hal's sentiments. I don't have time to trade right now, but I sure > would like a copy of this sometime. Did anyone tape it? Woj? hey Carpal John, how was the busiest day of the year? or is that tomorrow?? i'm likewise wrist-damaged, mtn-stage-disabled, tape-seeking (also w/o healthcare -- don't hit me! please!) ...and wondering if it's time for another tree, assuming some geographically advantaged person was on the ball enough to put this on semi permanent magnetic media of some description. oh-so sincerely, nonlinear doug. p.s. ***many*** cmpct discs still for sale, $6.50 ea incl s&h email purge_late@mwmw.com w/robynlist in the subject fer more info. -- oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug -- dmayowel@access.digex.net a.k.a. dougmhyphw@aol.com -- get yr recently updated pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ------------------------------ From: Gordon Shumway Subject: Pet Sounds and Children Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:35:18 -0800 feggers, I think it was Marcy who mentioned that she has a child named "Robyn". I think Hamish does as well. My question is this: How many of you on the list have pets or children named for Robyn or one of his many charcters? Unfortunately, all my pets were acquired before I had heard of Robyn so there are no Brendas or Wang-Bos running around my house. However, I do have a dog named Elvis. I'm not sure if he's a Queen, though. Just thought I'd throw this out as a possible new thread. Happy holidaze, --g ************************ Glen E. Uber "Why couldn't Frank Gifford glen@metro.net have been the ex-football http://metro.net/glen/ player who killed his wife?" ************************ ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 09:15:38 +0000 Subject: Feels like nineteen seventy blah Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Howdy, Howdy, Howdy, I have just read the weekends debate on "1974". I thought the answer to the years importance would have been obvious. I have only heard a snippet of the song (from a .wav file I found somewhere) and it seems to me that the song itself lists all the Robyn-important events of the year. Does this make speculation redundant? (If I receive lot's of "Shut up Hamish" e-mails I'll understand. Although I probably won't shut up.) BTW I was 8 in 1974 and I suppose I must have been listening to something. I remember finding music depressing as I grew up (except for Mud and Gary Glitter). That was until I heard "Holidays In The Sun" on the radio. Hamish (was handsome nude, now writhing mass of food) P.S. In less than a month I will be a temporary resident of California. (You'll know me. I'll be the one in the beach shorts saying "dude" all the time.) Amongst other things this means I won't be playing "Heaven" for four months. (So I'm not thinking about it Mike.) P.P.S. Heard Vic Chesnutt live on Mark Radcliffe last Monday. (Well, the first two songs of four.) I was most impressed. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:49:34 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: 1974 & 1976 Hi Eric Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will) but wasn't '76 the year of the Pistols and the Ramones? I know 'Anarchy in the UK' came out on two different labels, and I would have thought that the first release was '76. (as an old fuddy-duddy, I was into Graham Parker at the time). I do remember going to a Ramones gig in 86 which began with the words "Welcome to the tenth anniversary of punk". And (consults Excel 5.0) 86 minus 10 equals 76. > >There are a LOT of "rock > >films" that stand up to repeated viewings. How about "Gimme Shelter", for > >starters, or "Performance", or "Don't Look Back", or "The Last Waltz", or > >"A Hard Day's Night" or even "Quadrophenia." > > OK, here we agree...the very same films I might cite. ;) Although, I > would never call Performance a rock film. 'Performance' definitely features a 'rock video' of "Memo To Turner" (sometimes known as "Memo From Turner"), a single by Jagger and Cooder which was on jukeboxes everywhere for years and years. As for 'Quadrophenia', I was infuriated by those double yellow lines (there weren't any in London in 1964); by the prominent display in the 'party' sequence of Who albums which were released long after 1964; and by the way that, although the central mail van was in early '60s livery (with the 'postmark' on the side), there were loads of mail vans driving past in the background with the late 60s yellow 'Royal Mail' logo on instead. Bah! - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:04:01 +1100 From: Bret Subject: Re: Pet Sounds and Children At 09:35 PM 12/15/96 -0800, you wrote: >feggers, > >I think it was Marcy who mentioned that she has a child named "Robyn". I >think Hamish does as well. > >My question is this: How many of you on the list have pets or children named >for Robyn or one of his many charcters? :) Well, my iguana (of course, I'm not sure if it is a he or a she, whick is the reasoning behind the following) is iether nemed Brenda, or Reg .......... go figure...... --Bret ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:06:25 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: autre temps On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Nick Winkworth wrote: > In my case at least, just the opposite is true. When I first saw Robyn > in a Cambridge folk club waaayyy back in 1976* I _knew_ he was going to > be a big star. > *Oh God, I hope I'm not older than Mike Godwin! ;-) Did I bump into you at those astounding Beefheart gigs at Middle Earth in '68? If not, I shouldn't think there's anything to worry about! - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Some Homer Info... Greetings Fegs, Tim Keegan of Homer will be on KCRW's Brave New World program one night this week. He will be on at 11:00pm and will presumably perform a few songs while he is there. I think that he will be on tonight. tape deck will be rolling.... griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:08:47 -0500 Subject: The great CD purge << oh-so sincerely, nonlinear doug. p.s. ***many*** cmpct discs still for sale, $6.50 ea incl s&h email purge_late@mwmw.com w/robynlist in the subject fer more info. >> Order CD's from Doug because he's really cool and has a lot of great stuff for prices that are great and he needs to get rid of stuff and he's a Feg so you won't get screwed. He's making my Holiday Season! DO IT NOW!!! Sincerely, Jay ------------------------------ From: Gordon Shumway Subject: Re: Demme more? Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:18:38 -0800 At 09:52 14.12.96 -0500, Hal 'n' Carey wrote: >Other great rock films not yet mentioned IMHO: >The Grateful Dead Movie >Frank Zappa's "Baby Snakes" >The Monkees "Head" Don't forget "200 Motels", "The Last Waltz", "A Hard Day's Night", "Help". Would "Ziggy Stardust" count? If you're talking about movies _ABOUT_ music/musicians: "The Rutles", "The Commitments", "Sid & Nancy" and "Back Beat". >Most horrible rock film: >Paul McCartney's "Give My Regards To Broad Street" I actually enjoyed that. I mean, it's certainly no Oscar contender, but it was fun. Okay, maybe the film wasn't great, but the soundtrack album was pretty good. My vote for worst rock film of all time would have to be the aforementioned "Rattle and Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm". Just MHO, --g ************************ Glen E. Uber "Why couldn't Frank Gifford glen@metro.net have been the ex-football http://metro.net/glen/ player who killed his wife?" ************************ ------------------------------ From: Gordon Shumway Subject: Concert films Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:18:35 -0800 At 21:43 13.12.96 -0600, Truman Peyote wrote: >There are a LOT of "rock >films" that stand up to repeated viewings. How about "Gimme Shelter", for >starters, or "Performance", or "Don't Look Back", or "The Last Waltz", or >"A Hard Day's Night" or even "Quadrophenia" (which I love, although I have >to admit it is a bit of an acquired taste)? Not to mention all of those >wonderfully energetic Frank Tashlin 50s teen exploitation flicks like "The >Girl Can't Help It", which are really fun and entertaining if not exactly >everyone's cup of tea. >Generally, I think "rock films" tend to work when you have charismatic, >energetic performers (emphasis on performers here, as opposed to >musicians- you really need more than just music to make it fly), All of you seem to be forgetting a great performance piece by a great performer. "Sign O' The Times" would have to rank amongst my all time favourite concert films. Prince is the consummate performer, and that is what helped make that film so entertaining. As a matter of fact, I was working at a movie theatre at the time, so I saw the film almost by accident. I was so struck by Prince's performance, that I became a Prince fan _after_ seeing the film. Happy holidaze, --g ************************ Glen E. Uber "Why couldn't Frank Gifford glen@metro.net have been the ex-football http://metro.net/glen/ player who killed his wife?" ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 15:49:58 EST From: Jeff Rosedale Subject: what's the meaning of this?! Hope this isn't a FAQbuster... What is the significance of August 23rd (as in August 23rd Music, Robyn's publisher[?])? --Jeff rosedale@columbia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:12:30 -0500 From: Carpalman Subject: Re: what's the meaning of this?! >Hope this isn't a FAQbuster... >What is the significance of August 23rd (as in August 23rd Music, >Robyn's publisher[?])? > > --Jeff > rosedale@columbia.edu Jeff- It has something to do with Michelle, his significant other. Not sure if this is the day they met, or what, but I know from interviews that it is a special date for them. /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- John B. Jones e-mail:jojones@mailbox.syr.edu web: http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "The Higsons come from Norwich Norwich, Massachusetts And they eat alot of pancakes..." -Billy Bragg, 16 Nov 96 \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\- ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:39:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Pet Sounds and Children In a message dated 96-12-16 00:31:23 EST, glen@metro.net writes: > My question is this: How many of you on the list have pets or children named > for Robyn or one of his many charcters? my fox terrier/dachsund, emily [1978-90], was named after the owner of Clifford, the big red dog, Emily Elizabeth [refer to kid's stories]. my shih tzu, barney [11], is named after Bernard Sumner of New Order. my de facto cat [calico], prudence [5], is named after Mia Farrow's sister via some song by this 60's band no one's heard of. the actual owner of this e-mail account, who lets me feg on it, has a fox terrier named Rob, but that's because the little shit steals stuff and hides it around the house all the time. he and his wife haven't decided what to name their first child, which is due in June. so, i guess the answer is none yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:10:21 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: ...never having to say Surrey >FYI Guildford is the largest town [...], in the county of my birth, Surrey. In the "good old days", before London got imperialist ambitions, Croydon was. Town of me mum's birth, Croydon. Didn't RH and Captain Sensible write a song called Croydon? >One hopes Demme (should I say "JD" now?) no - I'll get confused! JD James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .