From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #248 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 248 Wednesday December 11 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Canonical crablings Re: John Cale Re: Virus!! Re: Virus!! Re: Virus!! After Maxwell's Re: virus the movie oops! Re: the movie Re: the movie GOOD TIMES! Re: GOOD TIMES! Re: Canonical crablings Re: GOOD TIMES! Re: one of these days I'll send a message about Robyn - I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:55:58 +0000 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Canonical crablings A couple of questions about the unhatched crablings and the canonical Bayard list of songs... Does 'I thought I saw Julian Cope' = 'I thought I saw somebody else'? Does 'Mousaka song' = 'Recipe song'? PS - Michael: The tapes arrived safely, thank you! The tapes to you should be about half way across the Pacific Ocean about now. James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:15:22 +0000 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: John Cale >P.S. To Eric- You should not be amused at my genuflecting before Mr. John >Cale. If anything, we should all do so, for verily the man is a genius :) >:). Persons who do not believe me should grab themselves a copy of >"Fragments of a Rainy Season". I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of fegs would love "Paris 1919", one of the most nearly perfect albums ever created. In some ways, I find it almost a natural companion piece to "Element of Light". And since I'm a renowned Eno nutter I'd add that "Wrong Way Up", by Eno & Cale is an excellent album, too! James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 20:26:00 -0700 From: rgodfrey@swlink.net (Ryan Godfrey) Subject: Re: Virus!! Truman de Peyote intoned: >We'll have to endure them until every single well-meaning net user figures >out that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE INFECTED WITH VIRUSES SIMPLY THROUGH >READING EMAIL. It is NOT POSSIBLE. The email would have to contain a >program that somehow the reader would have to be tricked into downloading >onto their hard drive. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD HAPPEN. Come on, >people! Oh well, at least this time it wasn't called "Good Times" :). The utter insidiousness of the "Good Times" virus hoax lies in its being mentioned every time a copycat virus warning comes along, ineluctably infecting my brain for days with the theme song of the TV sitcom of the same name. Eventually, that song always morphs malignantly in my head into "Na na na, having a good time," from Fat Albert, and I'm useless to the world. The only known cure is a cleansing megadose of eccentric English folk-rock psychedelia about seafood, injected aurally, which I believe I'll administer now. Self-medicatingly yours, Ryan ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 96 23:14:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Virus!! From: "Aidan Cully" Warning: If you receive a message entitled "Virus warning!" or something similar, DELETE IT, WITHOUT READING IT! If you read it, subliminal messages encoded into the sequence of letters of the message will implant themselves in your brain and force you to forward the message to everyone who knows better. This wastes bandwidth, makes downloading of mail from a POP server take that much longer, and is generally annoying to everyone. Please forward this message to everyone who's ever sent you a message about e-mail viruses. --aidan ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 96 23:26:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Virus!! From: "Aidan Cully" >Warning: If you receive a message entitled "Virus warning!" or something >similar, DELETE IT, WITHOUT READING IT! If you read it, subliminal >messages encoded into the sequence of letters of the message will implant >themselves in your brain and force you to forward the message to everyone >who knows better. This wastes bandwidth, makes downloading of mail from a >POP server take that much longer, and is generally annoying to everyone. > >Please forward this message to everyone who's ever sent you a message about >e-mail viruses. > >--aidan of course, if anyone actually can't see through this, and DOES forward it irresponibly, please strip my name from it. It's meant as a joke with a limited audience despite containing the word "forward." It's a dangerous joke to make, though, and so I'm posting this message. i don't want to be responsible to any mail spamming. sorry to get all heavy and uncool.. --aidan ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 96 23:43:46 -0400 Subject: After Maxwell's From: "Aidan Cully" Sorry to anyone who took some of the tabs I posted too seriously.. It's just unintuitive for me to guess that his tuning is off and he moves his hands way up to the 9th+10th frets quite often. Anyway, here is a slightly revised You+Oblivion chord formation: tuning: EBGDAD D:2320-- fD (full D):232000 Dmaj79 (abreviated A, whose chord it is close to anyway):02200- G:-000-- every '-' is an 8th note, 'v' means downstrum, '^' means upstrum. ^---^-v-^---^-v-^---^-v-^---^------- fD D D D D D D D D A G (please note that the full D is played as a normal D the first time through) This is How it Feels: the D* bits are really D*9. They are played as follows EBGDAE D9:0770-- Dmaj79:0760-- D79 (79 is redundant, but this sort of chord notation gets tricky):0750-- The rest of the tab seems pretty much OK to me, but I can't remember most of what Mr. Hitchcock did on stage. If anyone's interested, I'll post DeCirico street (I think Terry's chords aren't quite right, but I'm sure I got that from OLGA before Moss Elixer was out, so it could have been a different version), which I'm now absolutely sure I got the main riff of right, and quite a bit of the rest. Stuff from the concert I remember: Thinking to myself, "man, I'm not going to remember 75% of this stuff" Robyn saying he's been coming to Maxwell's sice he was 7.5 lbs, flown in from some New Zealand hospital to perform, but he was too young. That was in 1980. To this day, he says he sees a big amplifier when he looks at his mom. Someone threw a bee on stage near the end of the first set, led to a tirade about how many different kinds of bees there are, said "Now we're killing them off, only we've given them names first". I felt like he was staring at me through most of the first set (if anyone noticed who Robyn was staring at through most of the first set, that was probably me). My impression is that he picked an audience member to focus his attention on during the concert, and that I was placed pretty well for it the first time around. I checked during the second set, seemed like he was always staring about 5 feet to the right of me. He didn't introduce "I'm Only You" by saying "when you miss a person enough, then you start to become them. Too bad this didn't work for the christian church.." I think (I can't remember) he said he introduced it as another "reason to live" song. He laughed when my brother shouted for him to play "Heartful of Leaves." Homer: I said this to my friends at the time, but Homer (the singer of which opened Robyn's second set) seemed like "what you get when 25-year-olds write about pain and loss." I thought he played guitar realatively well, and his voice was pretty good, but his lyrics (for the most part) annoyed me ("you don't wanna be double, you wanna be single, single, single, single, single, single, single"). --aidan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:27:08 -0400 From: biggles Subject: Re: virus Aidan Cully wrote: > > Warning: If you receive a message entitled "Virus warning!" or something > similar, DELETE IT, WITHOUT READING IT! If you read it, subliminal > messages encoded into the sequence of letters of the message will implant > themselves in your brain and force you to forward the message to everyone > who knows better. This wastes bandwidth, makes downloading of mail from a > POP server take that much longer, and is generally annoying to everyone. > > Please forward this message to everyone who's ever sent you a message about > e-mail viruses. > > --aidan Aidan, While I was reading your post about e-mail viruses, I was suddenly compelled to forward yor post back to you. I'm not sure why though. It's as if the idea was implanted directly into my subconscious.I'm afraid you may have created a loop in the time-space continuum.I'm afraid you might have created a loop in the time-space continuum.I'm afraid you might have created a loop in the time-space continuum.I'm afraid you might have created a loop in the time-space continuum. cool. -Biggles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:02:37 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: the movie couldn't resist putting my 2 cents in here... It was COOL, and if you have a chance to go tomorrow, I can highly suggest it. Robyn played for 2 good full hours this morning, and it was one of his better performances. It was really interesting to see how they were filming it-- this seems like a pretty big production: Four cameras filming (REAL film), then about 4 guys with video cameras running around the audience. I'd say there was a crew of about 30 people, and there were I think 40-50 people allowed in the audience. On the way in, we heard some roadies talking about how Robyn's MOTHER was going to coming through or something, so I kept a lookout for her-- there was an older woman and a young girl (maybe about 10 years old) sitting in the 2nd row, and after the concert they immediately went to the "backstage" area, and I heard her say "Come on, let's go see Daddy." The older woman looked a bit like Robyn, and she was British, and she was the only older person in the whole place, so I am pretty certain that this was a Mother Hitchcock and Maisie (sp?) sighting. Also on the way out with fellow Feg Tom (jglr), we got stopped and interviewed by the video camera guys. They asked us all about why we liked Robyn, and what we thought about the film, and what about that sense of humor of his, etc. So maybe we'll be in it--?!?! They didn't check to see if we actually WERE on the RSVP list, by the way-- they just took the first 40 or so people... lj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:15:27 -0500 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: oops! hey i didn't mean to cause such an uproar with that "virus" warning. i sent it to all the addresses in my address folder, forgetting that it would be posted to fegmaniax. (also, it comes as a genuine surprise to me that it wasn't "real"--i'm not a computer geek, so i'm not hip to all that stuff.) sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:28:24 -0500 From: Paula_Carino@usccmail.lehman.com (Paula Carino) Subject: Re: the movie I think Maisie is 21 years old, so I don't think that girl was her. Unlike Tim, I thought Robyn's performance--including the patter--was great, especially considering the circumstances. (I'm glad l.j. thought so, too.) The way he divided the set up into distinct sections (solo acoustic, solo electric, robyn-and-deni, robyn-and-tim, etc.) made the show flow--2 hours can get tiresome no matter how much you love the performer, but i was mesmerized throughout. Favorite fleeting moments: when the huge truck emblazoned "PORKY!!" rumbled by the window, during a sensitive ballad (can't recall which one); towards the end of the show, when lunch-time gawkers filled the window wondering what was going on--but r.h. quickly won them over; when deni bonet used the octave-splitter on her violin to create that amazing, low riff in "beautiful queen." i saw them do that song at the sidewalk on saturday night, and was amazed at how much better it sounds live than on the album (although it's pretty damn good on the album, too!) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the movie Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 09:52:25 -0800 From: Tom Clark Obviously, i'm insanely jealous of those of you who got to see the filming. I actually sat through an entire broadcast of "Entertainment Tonight" last night with the hope of seeing even a minor utterance of the project. Of course I was unrewarded, but I did come to the conclusion that there are no other celebrities in the world besides Tom Cruise and Whitney Houston. Can the apocalypse be far off? -tc p.s. If you happened to read this far, a virus has by now infected your hard drive and will soon cause all of your files smell kind of musty. ******************************************* Tom Clark Apple Computer, Inc. tclark@apple.com http://www.netgate.net/~tclark "Do you really serve the Devil If it's all God's plan? Good and evil need each other Honey, I'm your man" -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ From: Naha-Ru Subject: GOOD TIMES! Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:11:12 -0800 You sed: >The utter insidiousness of the "Good Times" virus hoax lies in its being >mentioned every time a copycat virus warning comes along, ineluctably >infecting my brain for days with the theme song of the TV sitcom of the >same name. > >Eventually, that song always morphs malignantly in my head into "Na na na, >having a good time," from Fat Albert, and I'm useless to the world. So I guess "GOOD TIMES" wasn't a hoax, hmmm? It just happens to be a virus that fills the user's mind with TV theme songs most of us would have forgotten without YOUR REMINDING ME THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED THOSE SHOWS AS A KID :) :) :) Next you'll have me whistling the theme to "CHiPs", or reaching for my leather-worked Telecaster to sing along with Waylon during the opening credits of "The Dukes of Hazzard". I've just gotten out of therapy to help me forget that I used to watch "Love Boat" and "Fantasy Island", now I'll have to start again to try to repress the memory of "Dukes", "Dallas", and "Good Times". THANKS A LOT!!! ;) Have a DYN-O-MITE holiday season, --g ************************ Glen E. Uber "Never bite off more glen@metro.net than you can chew." http://metro.net/glen/ --Mama Cass ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:11:09 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: GOOD TIMES! On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Naha-Ru wrote: > So I guess "GOOD TIMES" wasn't a hoax, hmmm? > > It just happens to be a virus that fills the user's mind with TV theme songs > most of us would have forgotten without YOUR REMINDING ME THAT I ACTUALLY > WATCHED THOSE SHOWS AS A KID :) :) At least you don't know all of the words to the "Patty Duke Show" theme song. Wish I could say I didn't. > I've just gotten out of therapy to help me forget that I used to watch "Love > Boat" and "Fantasy Island", now I'll have to start again to try to repress > the memory of "Dukes", "Dallas", and "Good Times". I actually wasn't allowed to watch "Dukes", as my mother thought it offensive (no, not for the reasons one might think, but really because of all the scantily clad bimbo women), and since I grew up in Dallas, I wasn't all that interested in the show. But God knows I wish there were a therapist that would help me forget the trauma of having been a "Dynasty" watcher :). I think perhaps we have happened upon the source of Generation X malaise. It's junk TV shame :). ObRobyn- anyone put together a setlist from the shows? Love on ya, Susan ******************************************************************************* "Calling out her name, you'd be surprised at what came Galloping out of the darkness like furniture"- John Cale, "Chinese Envoy" sdodge@midway.uchicago.edu ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Canonical crablings Dunedin James asks: > Does 'I thought I saw Julian Cope' = 'I thought I saw somebody else'? Mostly, yes; and > Does 'Mousaka song' = 'Recipe song'? yes, I guess I'll have to settle on one title or the other for the Robynbase. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Dot, the Itchy God." Subject: Re: GOOD TIMES! On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Truman Peyote wrote: > > most of us would have forgotten without YOUR REMINDING ME THAT I ACTUALLY > > WATCHED THOSE SHOWS AS A KID :) :) > > > I've just gotten out of therapy to help me forget that I used to watch "Love > > Boat" and "Fantasy Island", now I'll have to start again to try to repress > > the memory of "Dukes", "Dallas", and "Good Times". > repressing the memories of "good times" would be a shame. a brilliant piece of urban realism beamed across the nation. it truly was dynOmite. given the range that television allows itself to operate in, this was at the better end. besides that hat would move a nation of post-dance/rock indie bands a decade plus later. .chris ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Wed, 11 Dec 96 16:32:23 EST Subject: Re: one of these days I'll send a message about Robyn - I Glen wrote: > > At 15:56 10.12.96 +1100, James Dignan wrote: > > >Ross a dit: > >>There's a grand total of 4 canucks on the list. < > > > >yeah, but you're in Quebec - do you count? ;) Yes, but after 5 we just say "many". > > This brings up an interesting question. > > If Quebec happens to secede, will the Montreal hockey team have to be renamed? > No, but "hockey" will have to be renamed. It makes the locals furious that they can't pronounce their favourite sport. The Office de la Langue Francais has proposed "cle au clou" as a replacement. ------ "The man who has not anything to boast of but his illustrious ancestors is like the potato - the only good thing belonging to him is underground." (Sir Thomas Overbury, 1613) Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec CANADA, DAMNIT! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .