From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #235 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 235 Thursday November 21 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: rareties compilation (greedy jim) Ethno Cityscape Re: rareties compilation (greedy jim) mountain stage Re: mountain stage Re: Long lists Re: NMH, OTC, etc. Re: Ethno Cityscape Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) John B. Jones & tape tree (lengthy confessional, minimal Robyn Other bands Re: Ethno Cityscape John and the UC tape tree [Please read, JH3] Re: Obscure / overlooked bands (no Robyn content) Re: Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) Re: Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) Album List Is Maxwell's Still On? Julian Cope Book Re: Album List The Maxwell's show MAXWELL'S SHOW STILL ON Re: Album List hello and beaconia Re: Album List Re: Album List From the Warner Bros. Site Re: Album List A solution to the Bragg List Quandary (Tongue firmly in cheek) commerciality Re: commerciality Re: Rex Returns to His Evil Ways: A Discourse in Three Parts ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:22:54 -0500 Subject: Re: rareties compilation (greedy jim) << there was talk, months ago, of a rareties compilation which would cover all or a lot of the recent b-sides, obscurely released songs, etc., that weren't included on the "greatest hits." is anyone still working on this? >> I second this motion and could possibly contribute some material. Cheers, Jay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:30:48 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Ethno Cityscape OK boys and girls - time for a new thread! It struck me more than ever at the latest show, that Robyn's audience seems to be almost exclusively middle-class and white. While I did notice a few Asian faces (well, this *was* San Francisco), they could equally have been there for Billy, and I don't recall seeing a single black or hispanic face in the place. Can it be true that Robyn's work only speaks to such a narrow cross section of the human race? It seems to me that his themes are pretty much universal: sex, death, shellfish and so on. So I wondered; Have you experienced the same audience mix at other gigs across the country? Around the world? And... if any of you Fegs out there checked something other than "caucasian" on your last census form, maybe you could give us your thoughts about Robyn's cross-cultural appeal -- or lack thereof. I'd ramble on more, but I'd like to hear your comments first. Yours, from that multicultural bubble that is the SF Bay Area... -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:38:20 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: Re: rareties compilation (greedy jim) > there was talk, months ago, of a rareties compilation which would cover > all or a lot of the recent b-sides, obscurely released songs, etc., that > weren't included on the "greatest hits." is anyone still working on > this? i've been wanting to update the rarities tape, "the other songs about churches and fish", that i made and distributed a few years ag, but have not had the time. i still don't have the time, but would be happy to help out whoever wants the notority of being the responsible party. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:40:31 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: mountain stage did anyone make it the mountain stage taping? anyone in the charleston area tape it (i think it's still broadcast live in west virginia)? woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:28:35 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: mountain stage On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, sister ernestine wrote: > did anyone make it the mountain stage taping? anyone in the charleston > area tape it (i think it's still broadcast live in west virginia)? > > woj Second that. Especially especially especially if you have the Donovan performance also. Cheers, Susan P.S. Doug- tapes and postage coming our way! Thanks for the reminder. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:42:21 -0600 (CST) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Long lists On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Daniel J. Troy wrote: > Does anyone know of Australia's Richard Davies? He's put out some > wonderful albums with the Moles, Cardinal, and now as a solo > artist........ > last solo album, "There's Never Been a Crowd Like This" is wonderful > though more spartan in its production. I prefer the Cardinal CD, but highly > recommend both of them. Well, actually I prefer the solo CD (Susan goes for the one with sparse production, whatta shocker!). Reminds me a lot of another songwriting fellow named Davies, with some echoes of early (pre-Ziggy) Bowie floating around in there as well. Definitely worth checking out. Could be hard to find though, as it is on a small indie label called Flydaddy, and I don't know how large their distribution arm is (I'm guessing not very). Another band I would recommend, especially to fans of (ahem!) beat combos is a band called Those Bastard Souls on the Darla label. Kinda derivative, sure, but good songwriting and if you're into the Mod period it's worth a listen. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:44:57 -0700 From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: NMH, OTC, etc. >From: "badger (but occasionally Brett Lanier)" > >What do you think of OTC's constant collaborator, Neutral Milk Hotel? I have >the one LP, and ther's only two songs on it that I like. Jeff Mangum can >right a damned catchy pop song, but most of the stuff I have by him >(bootlegs off his four-track from exgirlfiend of his) is horrible, IMHO. Oh, >the OTC title is 'Dawn at Cubist Castle,' right? They have had some more >songs out on vinyl, 7"s. (Which you probably already know.) I like those, >but fear getting the CD, because it may disappoint me like 'On Avery Island.' Neutral Milk Hotel is my favorite new band of 1996. The American Tall Dwarfs? I like On Avery Island a lot, though it's a bit short on variety. I liked the OTC album too, but the "ambient" portions grew tedious after awhile. Since we're throwing out recommendations, here are some other newish/obscurish bands I recommend (in no particular order): Lambchop, The Wrens, Brainiac, The Sugarplastic, Butter 08, Placebo, Jason Falkner, Red Five, Land Of The Loops, Possum Dixon, Spinanes, Rosa Mota, Komeda, Pond, Muffs, Polara, Geraldine Fibbers, Ben Folds Five, That Dog, Eric Matthews, Bandit Queen, Flowchart and Mouse On Mars. OK, I'll take a breath now. ;) EB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:40:07 -0500 From: chichi@mail.io.com (Zelda Pinwheel) Subject: Re: Ethno Cityscape >So I wondered; Have you experienced the same audience mix at other gigs >across the country? Around the world? >And... if any of you Fegs out there checked something other than >"caucasian" on your last census form, maybe you could give us your >thoughts about Robyn's cross-cultural appeal -- or lack thereof. > Well, at the RH show in Houston last March, there were several middle-aged African-American ladies in attendance...not exactly the demographic I've usually seen at his shows...I'll have to admit that I was pretty surprised to see them there, but it was a nice change...it looked like it was their first exposure to Robyn, and they seemed to be having a blast.--sf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:31:05 +0000 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) >I always took Rock and Roll Toilet as being a Stones parody. Maybe that's >just me :). hmmm. Every time I hear R&RT, I think of Bowie's "Suffragette City". BTW, I've heard the same rumours about Julian Cope writing a book about the "Krautrock" movement. Maybe it's true... PS - one more Aussie worth listening to, that I missed last time: Ed Kuepper. Started off punk, now sounds like Roy Harper. Pretty damn good (Check out "Serene Machine") James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:29:11 -0500 From: Lobsterman Subject: John B. Jones & tape tree (lengthy confessional, minimal Robyn content) To Fegs It May Concern: Many people have been e-mailing me about the tape tree. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. The past few weekends we have been going out of town to catch concerts, and upon returning have been too busy playing catch-up to spend time with e-mail. Add to this the fact that I just barely received my copies of Unhatched Crablings yesterday, and there you have it. Again, I apologize. Now for the bad news: Each year, in the month of December, people like you mail out your Christmas cards to friends and family. This is good for my employer (the United States Postal Service) but bad for me. My job is routing mail via computer, and I will be doing just that for approx 10hs a day, 6 days a week. Its fairly good $, but no fun. Carpal tunnel awaits!! And because December will be so heinous, we are heading to Texas for a week and 1/2 to spend Thanksgiving with family. I write all this to explain---I most likely will not get to your tapes until January. I know this sucks, and if I can get some done in between shifts at work, I will. But bear in mind, I've got a one year old to deal with as well. She is walking now, making me crazy. Things get hectic starting about now. If you can't wait that long for Unhatched Crablings (and it is very good, i listened to both volumes at work yesterday--mmmmmmm good.) I understand. Feel free to contact the trunk and see if you can switch branches or something. Obligatory Robyn content: Green Storm Lantern is an incredible song, and the idea about a best of the tour tape sounds good, but who is to judge which version of each song is the best and which snippets of surrealist banter are the funniest? Perhaps we should nominate a lurker with much time on his/her hands, send him/her every tape of every show on the tour that exists, and allow this person to judge and set up a track listing. John ------------------------------ From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:43:27 -0500 Subject: Other bands Hopefully this will interest at least one person in the US. If you're tired of the american distortion pedal sound, please continue... Most of my favorites have been around for years, they're just not popular enough to be played on the radio in the US... Terry Hall... (if you like pop, you must buy Home) Ex Specials, Fun Boy 3, Colourfield, Vegas (with Dave Stewart)... Last solo album (Home) cowritten with Ian Broudie, Nick Heyward, Andy Partridge, Damon Albarn. Beautiful clean pop music. If anyone knows anything about his rereleases please email me!!! I need the Colourfield on CD!!!! Ian McNabb Ex Icicle Works voclalist and the person I rip off the most in my own writing. My fave is still his 1st solo album "Truth and Beauty" Aztec Camera, Nick Heyward, Beautiful South, China Crisis, Lightning Seeds, Jazz Butcher(sometimes... he gets a little noisy for me) I guess I should mention some Americans... Stan Ridgway, but that's about it. Oh wait... One band with a lot of potential is called The Carolinas, and it just so happens to be the band of my good friend and your fellow list mate Rex Broome. Don't let him be shy about it. His last recording was really good. As far as my tastes go, I've wimped out. I've gone crazy. I'm like a mad salesperson "these distortion pedals gotta go!!!! 1/2 off, just get them out of here!!!!!" By the way, the new Beautiful South is smooooooooth!!!! Dave ------------------------------ From: bryanm@doc.state.ok.us (Bryan Moore) Subject: Re: Ethno Cityscape Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:49:39 -0600 > >So I wondered; Have you experienced the same audience mix at other gigs > >across the country? Around the world? > >And... if any of you Fegs out there checked something other than > >"caucasian" on your last census form, maybe you could give us your > >thoughts about Robyn's cross-cultural appeal -- or lack thereof. > > > Well, at the RH show in Houston last March, there were several middle-aged > African-American ladies in attendance...not exactly the demographic I've > usually seen at his shows...I'll have to admit that I was pretty surprised > to see them there, but it was a nice change...it looked like it was their > first exposure to Robyn, and they seemed to be having a blast.--sf > > Saw Robyn in Dallas 1993. Mostly (all?) white audience. ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:10:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: John and the UC tape tree [Please read, JH3] Oh my...this *may* prove difficult. I think that I can solve it, however. I ask John's branches to wait patiently. Sorry to post to list, but.. I've got one idea for a solution...(crosses fingers) JH3: [I've forgotten your full address] Please email me ASAP. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:37:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Obscure / overlooked bands (no Robyn content) On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:45:59 -0800 (PST) cmartin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dollymop) wrote: > >To plug one of my own favorites, look into Tiny Lights for an eclectic >good time, somewhat reminiscent of Camper Van Beethoven. If you ever >find >"Hazel's Wreath" snatch it up immediately, but those with less luck >would >do well to check out their "best-of" CD "The Young Person's Guide to >Tiny >Lights." Hmm, I am so lucky as to have "Hazel's Wreath", but I'm afraid I wouldn't recommend it... It's what one of my friends used to call social worker music. In nature a little like e.g. Speed The Plough, but they have catchier tunes. Not my cup of tea, YMMV. Cheers, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn Cologne University, Germany Kempener Str. 66, D-50733 Koeln Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de or shagedorn@novaidea.com http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:48:15 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene Subject: Re: Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, James Dignan wrote: > >I always took Rock and Roll Toilet as being a Stones parody. Maybe that's > >just me :). > > hmmm. Every time I hear R&RT, I think of Bowie's "Suffragette City". I think one of the versions of Rock and Roll Toilet sounds almost exactly like Brown Sugar or somethig. The second one on Invisible Hits. -Eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:49:12 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Rock & Roll Toilet, plus extras (a leg bye and a wide) On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:31:05 +0000 james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) wrote: >BTW, I've heard the same rumours about Julian Cope writing a book about >the >"Krautrock" movement. Maybe it's true... It is true. I've read excerpts in the German magazine "SPEX". Cheers, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn Cologne University, Germany Kempener Str. 66, D-50733 Koeln Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de or shagedorn@novaidea.com http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 03:12:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Album List Any I forgot? jet set flier greasy quiff can of bees Invisible hits live at portland arms underwater moonlight Only the stones remain/ Two halves for the price of one 1976-1981 black snake diamond role Groovy Decay groovy decoy gravy deco* i often dream of trains invisible hitchcock fegmania element of light gotta let this hen out globe of frogs queen elvis eye perspex island respect you and oblivion greatest hits moss elixer mossy liquor [not counting ep's, ofc. Or the virgin sampler.] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 07:27:17 -0400 From: "David C. Olstein" Subject: Is Maxwell's Still On? >Just got a call from the Northampton Box Office. The RH show has been >cancelled AGAIN! I hope Maxwell's is still on. You'd think Robyn would want to do a few warm-up gigs before the film shoot in mid-December. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:33:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "NORMAN PARKER +44 (0)1473-222478" Subject: Julian Cope Book Yep, Copey did write a book on Krautrock, called, if I recall, "Krautrock". I've got an as yet unread copy of it sitting around somewhere, and I'll dig out details of where it can be obtained if anyone wants to know. Hopefully it's as good as his book on the Teardrops, which was an excellent read - I just don't understand how the man can remember all the details of all the drugs he took ! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:14:02 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Album List On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Terrence M Marks wrote: > Any I forgot? I would have thought that Invisible History and Stand Back Dennis CDs have at least as much 'official' status as the first two (jet set flier and greasy quiff). And, according to the Soft Boys discography, different label copies of their albums tend to have slightly different track listings, so a completist might argue that they were separate albums... - Mike Godwin PS to Hamish: Quantum ille canis est in fenestra? (Dr Kurdling's College, 1576) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:33:55 -0500 From: mlang@inch.com (Steven Matrick) Subject: The Maxwell's show The woman who works next door to me gets Robyn's visa for him so she knows him and his agent. She is checking right now to see what is going on. I will let you all know as soon as possible... Steven Matrick NP The Roots Illadelph Halflife ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:55:53 -0500 From: mlang@inch.com (Steven Matrick) Subject: MAXWELL'S SHOW STILL ON I realize that now you are receiving two posts from me in a row but I got a quick answer. The agent said that the Northampton show had to be cancelled because of the Demme film and the Maxwell's show (and other shows on this tour) would not be cancelled. Hurray! I have seen Robyn at Maxwell's twice and both times it was unbelievable. This is most likely his last performance there since Todd Abramson, the booking person there, is leaving at the end of December and the rumour is that it is going to go the fraternity way like the rest of Hoboken. I don't understand why Pete Buck sold Maxwell's out since I heard he was part owner of it (before its recent sale to that Brewery guy) and even saw him there a bunch of times. An REM member making a somewhat politically incorrect mistake? Oh, My!!!! Steven Charles Matrick ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:57:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Album List I could see counting "Stand Back Dennis"..maybe. But "Invisible History" is just bits of Two Halves plus outtakes... Anyhow, Jet Set Flier and Greasy Quiff were official releases. Not big official releases, but official releases nonetheless. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Terrence M Marks wrote: > > Any I forgot? > > I would have thought that Invisible History and Stand Back Dennis CDs have > at least as much 'official' status as the first two (jet set flier and > greasy quiff). And, according to the Soft Boys discography, different > label copies of their albums tend to have slightly different track > listings, so a completist might argue that they were separate albums... > > - Mike Godwin > > PS to Hamish: Quantum ille canis est in fenestra? > (Dr Kurdling's College, 1576) > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 13:01:15 EST From: Jeff Rosedale Subject: hello and beaconia Hi, I'm just joining you folks after sliding down a slippery slope of RH fandom over a period of about ten years. The first LP I heard was Element of Light, which was impressive but took a little time to soak in... most recently, I was much enthused by Moss Elixir (and just laid gloves on Mossy Liquor- they have a pretty substantial stash at the Virgin Megastore in Manhattan, as tipped off on the Web). Robyn's lyrics are just incredible, bound to melodic forms like a bi-metallic strip. But you knew that already. My Beacon experience went thusly: I arrived at about 8:05, and Robyn was already in the middle of Ghost Ship. This pissed me off to no end, because by strange coincidence I happened to be at the box office the moment tickets went on sale, and was destined for the center of row C. Roby sang the song saturated in a pale blue light. Due to bumbling ushers, I was not seated until after the song (^&#$&$#) but in a freak bit of luck I was seated incorrectly- in the third row (row C is actually the 7th row). So I got a fantastic view. After the second song I got booted back to my real seat, which was still really good. I happen to like the beacon a lot. I've seen some great shows there. I can imagine how Robyn might work better in a more intimate atmosphere, since he seemed to groove on whatever linkages he could establish with the audience. Anyway, back to the show. I got a kick out of a lot of things Robyn said... he called Balloon Man a real New York song, and may even have said that he wrote it here...also included a line in the song "and I wish I had eaten your horse"... De Chirico Street went down really well, followed by Filthy Bird... here I saw a possible linkage with Bragg when he intro'd the song by saying the song is sort of intimating that you can't be happy in this world unless you've got blood on your hands... a "really happy" song, Let's go thundering, I'm only you (with wild 900 mph hand motion on the solo), and then the song I had really hoped to hear- Glass Hotel- which was gorgeous, and concluded the acoustic stuff. I have to admit I liked the acoustic portion better than the electric overall. You've seen the rest of the setlist, so I'll just pick highlights... You and oblivion was really nice... I got a *trmendous* kick out of I got a message for you- another classic intro- something like "you may be wondering why there are any English people... it's because their parents had sex... they all went into bomb shelters, stared at posters of Churchill and listened to this song". Beautiful Queen had this enormous desending swoopy violin theme going through it, almost distracting at the time but lingering in memory.... and the number with BBragg, Mystery train, proved incontrovertably that Robyn can hold a note longer than he can. I was enormously pleased with Robyn's performance, although the audience was noticeably divided in the level of enthusiasm they displayed. Robyn was incredibly magnetic- always moving , saying something, gesturing or changing his experssions- not to mention the tunings of his guitar! And his vocal interludes were priceless, every bit as entertaining as the music. Bragg was good, but he talks too much and didn't have the consistent quality that Robyn displayed- you might say he was outclassed (ha!). His pot-shot style got a bit worn after a while. Definitely entertaining overall, though. I don't know why there is so much talk about shirts here. All I can say is that the black/white patterned shirt was amusingly trippy. All things long-winded must come to an end... please pardon all typos and unintentional misrepresentations. --Jeff rosedale@columbia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:30:54 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene a moist exotic pool Subject: Re: Album List On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Terrence M Marks wrote: > I could see counting "Stand Back Dennis"..maybe. > But "Invisible History" is just bits of Two Halves plus outtakes... > > Anyhow, Jet Set Flier and Greasy Quiff were official releases. > Not big official releases, but official releases nonetheless. Didn't Robyn deny any involvement with greasy quiff and jet set flyer? In fact, didn't he not even know what they were? I remember someone asking him and that being his responce. -eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:46:45 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Album List Eugene asked: > Didn't Robyn deny any involvement with greasy quiff and jet set >flyer? In fact, didn't he not even know what they were? I remember >someone asking him and that being his responce. That was me who asked. I asked Robyn about Greasy Quiff during one of the real-time IRC chats he did recently, and flat out denied its existence. He said he never heard of it. He's such a card. __________________________________________________ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. +++ Internet Publishing Specialist E-DOC +++ http://journals.at-home.com/ Voice: (410) 691-6265 +++ Fax: (410) 684-2788 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 14:19:44 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: From the Warner Bros. Site Here is a message that was on the Warner Bros. Site: FROM: Jim Neill DATE: Wed Nov 20 10:38:26 PST 1996 Sorry y'all. Misposted my e-mail address. Again, I have a handful of full color Robyn posters that we created for our Rhino re-issue series. If you want one, just e me yer name & address. No cost to you. Not even postage. Since I am a digest subscriber, I apologize if this has already been covered. Good Luck. Griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:57:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Album List Written by: Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu > > Anyhow, Jet Set Flier and Greasy Quiff were official releases. > > Not big official releases, but official releases nonetheless. > > Didn't Robyn deny any involvement with greasy quiff and jet set > flyer? In fact, didn't he not even know what they were? I remember > someone asking him and that being his responce. Well, The Soft Boys definitely performed on both albums. And without Robyn, it isn't The Soft Boys.. ------------------------------ Subject: A solution to the Bragg List Quandary (Tongue firmly in cheek) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 21:52:58 -0400 From: OK - I know that calling War upon the Bragg LIst is childish and inane. But I just couldn't resist replying to the following: >I'm sure one of us could come up with something with a little more flair and >style than that, but you get the idea. My concept also involved us agreeing >on one message that we would all post, so we weren't all coming off with >different slants (which would present the possibility of a single message >from one person reflecting bad on our list as a whole). OK - I have it. We don't call war upon the list - we take it to the members themselves! Listen: Here's what we do to those inscruitable bastards on the Bragg List. First, we acquire ourselves a "time machine." Now, don't laugh - I know exactly how this can be done. First, we need to steal one of Robyn's shirts - after seeing him several times, I have come to the conclusion that he is *not* lying about slipping in and out of the sixties - where else would he get such a stash of shirts like that? So, this shirt, so impregnated with back-time molecules, is then soaked in a vat of prawns. (What else?) The resulting elixir is then boiled to a bright red color (The Bragg fans will like that), and finely tuned to the sixties by subjecting it to occasional blasts of Hendrix, Joplin, and (God forgive the need for honesty) Donovan. This elixir will be our secret weapon. We then - in the spirit of reconciliation - invite the whole Billy Bragg list over for tea, cookies, and a lively discussion of Labor Unions. (To sweeten the deal, I suggest we supply them with vintage late eighties clothing and we agree that we will all sit through a screening of the movie "Reds." I know this will be most painful to use, but we will survive - perhaps we'll catch a quick screening of "Eraserhead" or "Stop Making Sense" beforehand to fortify our nerves!) Now - right as the high point in "Reds" comes along (whatever that may be - we shall have to scruitinize their faces carefully), we serve the red tea - dosed, of course, with our Fegmania prawn extract - and after starting a chant of "John Reed is a God" we suddenly RELEASE THE HENS! The excitation caused by a thousand madly clucking barnyard fowl running amok the Bragg fans will charge their pineal glands, activating the elixir, and we will watch with glee as we are all shot back to 1917 for the Glorious Revolution! Just think about it! Socialism, Communism, Unionism, Revolution - Trotsky, Reed, Lenin, Marx, Engels, what the hell, why not throw in Kropotkin - they will be in social bliss! "Bread and Freedom! All Power to the Soviets!" But then, as the elixir wears off, suddenly they are flung to the Point of Shirtic Origin - the sixties. Ah . . . imagine their faces as they witness the ultimate demise of socialism! Relish their looks when they see the bright palaces of post-Stalinst architecture dotting their Worker's Paradise like squatting toads of brutalist concrete! Enjoy the sound of their teeth gnashing as they realize that the most creative name for something the communists could come up with is the "National Slovak Uprising Aluminum Factory!" And picture their expressions as they watch us Fegs wallow about in the psychedelic acid kaleidoscope of the sixties, a dada paradise that may only be marred by a slightly noticeable absence of deoderant and the complete lack of reason. And best of all is when they find out that a weird and decadent band like the Velvet Underground was causing more influence in Czechoslovakia than Joan Baez! Oh, the joy . . . hee hee hee! Then we all buy our proper Robyn shirts, hold hands, click the prawns three times together, and wallah! we are back in 1996. Just imagine the lack of commentary - the profound silence - the deep dark well of solitude accessible only through the bucket of self-examinating introversion - of the Bragg List when they realize that the best description of history is not a steady progression towards a socialism of the heart, but rather an endlessly repeating cycle of smirkingly wry cynicism and existentialy detatched curiosity laced with a mild dose of crustaceans! Hee hee hee. . . . Oh, by the way - if we decide to do this, we have got to make sure no Bragg fan ever gets a hold of "Legalized Murder". . . . . The Great Quail (Who, by the way, really actually liked Billy Bragg and has recently purchased a few of his albums. Dip! goes the bucket. . . .) ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail, K.S.C. | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com | "Keeper of the Libyrinth" | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: riverrun Discordian Society | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail 73 De Chirico Street | Arkham, Orbis Tertius 2112-42 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:41:20 +1100 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: commerciality >>>The zenith of Robyn's popularity was around 1991 and 1992, with >>>"Perspex" and the single, you know, "Love Is a Terrible Thing to Waste" >>>or whatever. >>How do you arrive at that conclusion? Wouldn't the earlier "Balloon >>Man"/"Madonna Of The Wasps" period be Robyn's commercial peak? >Broome#2 >No, I think "Perspex" was his most commercially successful album, though >maybe not his most commercially acclaimed. More random people know "So You >Think You're In Love," but more people who know something about Robyn or >"alternative music" or whatever like Balloon Man, I think. That's my take, if it makes sense. Well, I never heard anything from Perspex on the radio or TV in NZ, but the video for Madonna of the Wasps was shown several times on the late lamented Radio With Pictures. It also got some airplay on to radio - which is more than anything from PI ever did. James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:38:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: commerciality > >No, I think "Perspex" was his most commercially successful album, though > >maybe not his most commercially acclaimed. More random people know "So You > >Think You're In Love," but more people who know something about Robyn or > >"alternative music" or whatever like Balloon Man, I think. > That's my take, if it makes sense. > > Well, I never heard anything from Perspex on the radio or TV in NZ, but the > video for Madonna of the Wasps was shown several times on the late lamented > Radio With Pictures. It also got some airplay on to radio - which is more > than anything from PI ever did. They played the crap out of SYTYIL, UUL and even spun DG Energy a few times here in DC. But Balloon man made it to the top 100 in a recent hit list, while sytyil was down somewhere in the 300's or so. [whfs] i heard yip and DA a few times each and a DJ even entreated listeners to buy _respect_... you could tell it was b/c it wasn't doing very well, though. I never hear RH on the radio any more, alas.. All radio stations seem to sound the same now. Glass Flesh loud, clear and in the flesh on the 22nd of december-- please come and celebrate with us! =b ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:44:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Rex Returns to His Evil Ways: A Discourse in Three Parts RxBroome@aol.com wrote: > The only Nirvana song I'd ever heard was "Sliver" > and, although they turned out to be much more, I had initially written them > off as sub-par Dinosaur Jr. knockoffs and watched with utter detachment as > they went supernova. Anyhow, in the wake of Nirvana, there was all this > press about who the "next Nirvana" would be. Candidates included a skronky > little band I'd seen many times called Mudhoney, and another band I'd never > heard of called Pearl Jam. In my detached way, I thought it might be > interesting if Mudhoney determined the future of American music, assuming > Pearl Jam to be somewhat similar. Then I saw the video for "Alive" and my > jaw hit the floor-- fucking AC/DC with Rasta hats was supposed to be the > salvation of alternative music? Aw c'mon they aren't that bad. I actually like some of Pearl Jam's stuff although it took a while. I find them interesting at the very least. And I like Nirvana alot. And I like Syd Barrett and The Beatles and the Butthole Surfers and Cat Stevens (politics aside) and Ani DeFranco and Joy Division and on and on and on. Music rules!!!! -Ner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .