From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #233 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 233 Monday November 18 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: RH&BB personal to J. McIntyre (no RH) New York set list Robyn and Champaign Re: Finding Mossy Liquor Kula the Shaker talk- this is the Robyn list! Don't waste you time reading this! Boston Setlist anybody want DC gig pictures? A chord question Beacon Show, questions multipart - press hard, keep the pink copy Re: A chord question Re: Career Arc.... Re: A chord question beacon and eggs New Yorker Blurb fegMANIA! Postmodern, and a cuppa tea long lists Re: Postmodern, and a cuppa tea Re: Postmodern, and a cuppa tea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:53:46 +1100 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: RH&BB >At 16:00 15.11.96 +1300, James Dignan, tired from those long days spent >scaling Baldwin Street, wrote: I've climbed it once. That was enough! >>"I often dream of trains >> when I'm with you" (RH) >>"And though we stood together at the edge of the platform, >> we were not moved by them" (BB) > >This is not going to turn into one of those "Elvis vs. Jesus" type threads, >is it? ;) ah, but which is which? James (The man in the iron Cynthia mask) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:28:49 -0500 From: Brandt Subject: personal to J. McIntyre (no RH) A feg named John McIntyre is listed on Terrence's "Crablings" tape tree as a leaf of mine. I don't have his email address and he has not contacted me. John, if you are reading this, email me if you still want the tapes. They are in my possession and ready to dub. Sorry to use the list, but I had no other means. This will be your only notification, John. hal hbrandt@centralnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:34:06 -0800 From: chao@mail.voyagerco.com (Tom X. Chao) Subject: New York set list Merzbacher@aol.com, Eleanor Tsang-NY Robyn Hitchcock & Billy Bragg The Beacon Theatre, New York, New York Friday, November 15, 1996 on at 7:59 (!) Glass Ship Balloon Man Wind Cries Mary (Hendrix) "1974" (new song) De Chirico Street* Filthy Bird "Let's Go Thundering" (new song) I Am Only You* Glass Hotel* I Am Not Me* You And Oblivion* Element of Light* Freeze encores: I Got A Message For You [hilarious] Beautiful Queen with Billy Bragg & Deni: Mystery Train *played at the Bottom Line March 1995 I wasn't quite as enthralled with this show as the March 1995 Bottom Line show, for a purely mechanical reason. Once you get up close, it's hard to sit in the back after that. Upon entering, you think, "This is not such a big place." Then the performer comes out and looks like a tiny microbe in the distance. I was really mesmerized by the vast amount of negative space around Robyn and Billy. Still, I enjoyed the abbreviated set by Robyn, one of my most eagerly anticipated shows of 1996. Billy was fuckin' hilarious: "We only have two kinds of coffee in England. Tea, and coffee." "After Bob Dole fell off the stage, he should have got up and said, 'Ow! I fell on my keys!'" [after being asked to play his "big hit":] "I checked backstage and it seems I don't have one." No Bragg fans were pummeled or even glared at. TXC ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 03:59:54 -0500 Subject: Robyn and Champaign Hey Fegs! Our man David posted this last week, and requested that I post my personal response to it because no one seems to believe him when he says it was a great show! Anyone have a tape of it? << << (The best show I ever saw from Robyn was to an auditorium of students in Champaign, Illinois in 1988 (Senders note- the date was Friday, April 8th, 1988 and the venue was Foellinger Auditorium- ticket price was $8.00... Ahhhh, those were the days!), where he realized that nobody knew who he was, and so he went out and won their hearts with a full-on assault of charming stories, silly songs like "Uncorrected Personality Traits," and audience sing-alongs. He doesn't do that very much anymore, at least not to audiences who know his music.) >> HEY!!!! This was my very first Robyn show!! I drove about 150 miles to see him that night, because I couldn't go to Chicago for the Element Of Light tour. Agreed- I was BLOWN away that night. From that point on, I was a Hitchcock fanatic. Thanks for letting me get all nostalgic. Cool you were there too! Sincerely, Jay >> Yep... it was indeed a good one! I've often wondered if it was good simply because I had no concept of what a Robyn show was like before this gig, so the stories and goofin' really made an impression. However, when thinking back on it, and when I listen to the XRT show from Chicago recorded the night after this Champaign gig, I find that the stories were much more plentiful in them days. Anyone agree? That said, I wouldn't trade the new Robyn for the old Robyn. "Jesus" is just alright with me! Cheers, Jay ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:01:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Finding Mossy Liquor << I'm hoping someone knows (if it is still available in the states) >where I can find it mail order or something.... I know that it is listed amongst Mrs. Wafflehead's treasures. Check the Web page at: Or write to: Mrs. Wafflehead PO Box 1854 London W10 4ZA United Kingdom Sorry, I don't have the US address handy. Bye, --g >> Here's the US address for Mrs. Wafflehead: Mrs. Wafflehead P.O. Box 426 Malverne, New York 11565-0426 USA According to the very generic flyer I picked up at the Chicago show, they do indeed have copies of Mossy Liquor for $15.00 Make checks / money orders payable to: Robyn Hitchcock Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery. All prices include postage and packing and are in American dollars. There you go! Jay ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:01:14 -0500 Subject: Kula the Shaker talk- this is the Robyn list! Rex was on a bit about Kula Shaker in his great post. Here's a little bit more for the discussion. << Kula Shaker I must agree that "Tattva" is the most slammin' thing to hit the radio in quite some time, but the LP is a disappointment. There's one other great track which is likewise Hindu in nature, and a few other okay tracks, but there's lots of filler and one embarassing Stone Roses lift...>> >From the Nov. 9th issue of NME: On the choice of "Govinda" as the new single, Kula Shaker says... "We had a lot of hassle at the record company to do "Into The Deep," says Crispian (Mills- lead singer / guitarist) of their potentially cataclysmic decision, "which I think is a brilliant song, bit Stone Rosey, but no, no, no..." At least they cop to it themselves! <> Couldn't let this go without saying I LOVE "We Saw Jerry's Daughter." One of my favorites from the Camp. <> I saw about seven songs from them last night at the Double Door in Chicago and I can say I did enjoy it much! It wasn't a religious experience or anything, and I don't suspect it will be for anyone who got into the Charlatans when they first came 'round, but a good band indeed! That's all, Jay ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 13:58:17 +0000 Subject: Don't waste you time reading this! Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Howdy, howdy, howdy, Nice to see we didn't go through with the Bragg attack. (Reminded me of the Crimson Permanent Assurance for some reason.) It was a funny idea to have and a bad one to implement. I noticed from (excessive) listening to Inv. Hits that the version of Rock'n'Roll Toilet on the CD that sounds the most like the Rolling Stones is the first one where everyone plays the wrong instruments. I think the general scrappiness adds to the illusion. (Susan - Please don't tell me you love Mr Jagger as well. If you had his lips & Mr Davies nose you wouldn't have much facial real estate left for anything else.) I'm also struck by the fact that RH's style has remained intact throughout his career. Some SBs songs could be Egyptians songs. Did I read somewhere that there were "rough draft" versions of the songs from Respect? If they are around would these not be more worthy of release than the official versions? I'm slowly converting (perverting???) my brother who hasn't heard any RH since I got married over 7 years ago and took my records. Would you believe he asked for "Respect" after hearing bits of it. (Strange place to start.) Next he digested Kershaw (he likes "Brenda's Iron Sledge") and the Ryko compilation. I've now given him Underwater Moonlight and have retired a safe distance. He's also web active so I might convince him to join the list. (Then you can decide for yourselves if being a boring bastard runs in the family.) Sorry to ramble. Maybe a little more direction next time. (Hamish) "Clang, pip, clang, pip. (The skool bell hav got a crack in it.)". So what was the school motto HSSMRG (with translation)? P.S. Any Dickies fans out there? I have a question but would rather not bore you all (more than usual). Now playing - Barenaked Ladies "Born On A Pirate Ship", with some cool CD-ROM audio/video stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:31:25 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John) Subject: Boston Setlist 16 Oct 96 The Avalon, Boston , MA balloon man chinese bones where do you go when you die? feels like 1974 +de chirico st. +sinister but she was happy +happy bird is a filthy bird beautiful girl heliotrope electric: i am not me queen of eyes heaven freeze/are you experienced? (hendrix) encore: i something you +beautiful queen +listening to the higsons (with billy bragg) 75min long. John +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ John B. Jones jojones@mailbox.syr.edu WWW-----http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "I often dream of trains till it gets light, The summer turns to winter overnight, The leaves fall so suddenly, The sun sets at four o clock, ----exactly what I'm dreading." -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:31:14 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: anybody want DC gig pictures? Bayard sed: >I also met someone who's on the list who took some photos of robyn and deni, >hope they end up on a web page someplace. Urm, I think that's me -- I snapped 24 exposures of Robyn, and I was directly in front of the stage -- if Robyn had been sweating, I'd have probably been soaked in it. But I expect the pictures to be pretty good. Anyway, if anyone of you who's got a Robyn-related WWW page wants them, I'm fully net-enabled, and I have a scanner, so feel free to contact me. I expect to have the pictures developed by the end of this week. I can e-mail or ftp them to you -- it's your call. +++++++++++++++++ + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + "Guilt is magic." -- James Dickey +++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:50:43 -0400 (EDT) From: David Willems Subject: A chord question What does it mean when there is a number in parenthases after a chord (ex. A(5) etc..)? If it means further up on the fret board how does one play it? Thanks, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:07:35 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Beacon Show, questions What, no reviews/tales from this show? I thought it was a pretty good show, but I much prefer seeing Robyn in a more intimate venue. The Bottom Line and Mercury Lounge shows last year were far superior to the performance he gave at the Beacon. Still, it **was** Robyn and who can argue with the inherent excellence of that! Must confess, I really did enjoy Billy Bragg's set a LOT, despite the fact that I had some chick behind me singing loudly along with nearly every one of his songs. I'd never heard much of his stuff before, and he was really entertaining and engaging. I went right out and bought "William Bloke" (the CD though doesn't do justice to how good he was live). If anyone has any suggestions on which of his CDs I should buy next, I'd appreciate a little help. Afterwards, there was some kind of record-signing thing, but you had to have a pass. My friend and I didn't really know what was going on or if we could end up getting a pass, so we hung around anyway, trying to look inconspicuous. It didn't work of course, and we got booted out of the theatre! Does anyone know what this was? Did anyone get in to talk to Robyn? We tried to wait around the stage door outside, but it was FREEZING (love that NYC), and we left after 20 minutes (figuring the record-signing would take a while anyway). Didn't see any of the other fegs! Where was everyone? I was looking for a guy with a picture of toast on his shirt (that would be woj), but didn't see him! How disappointing, I was looking forward to meeting everyone. Maybe at the Maxwell's shows...? They're not sold-out, are they? Oh, BTW, Billy Bragg didn't say, "I fell on my KEYS", he said, "I fell on my KITTENS!" lj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:14:49 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: multipart - press hard, keep the pink copy Sheesh! I step out for *one* minute and look what happens... Several occurrences of the past few digests seem to be worthy of comment. So, in no particular order: PART I - missed opportunities BIG thanks to everyone who has been posting reviews and set lists as Robyn proceeds around the country. I find it quite fascinating and one of the most valuable aspects of subscribing to this list. After his comment in SF that he could not risk deviating from the setlist to take a request, I am surprised to see that his set seems to change every night (so much for the computers in Hemel Hempstead!). He also seems very inconsistent. Some nights up, some down. Also, I'm really p/o'd to have missed some of my favorites; the yip song, glass hotel and others -- not to mention the Bragg duets, especially 'Higsons'. Arrhhgg! PART B - ..when the revolution comes I'd like to add my name to the list of those relieved that the so-called 'war' on the Bragg list, however benign, has come to naught. IMHO it would only take one bozo on the Bragg list to misunderstand/take it the wrong way and the whole thing would escalate into a conflict of galactic proportions. Good intentions do not always indicate a good outcome. GREEN PART - Kula Rula? Yes, I too have been quite taken with the Kula Shaker stuff I have heard so far. Naturally, as with any British act which experiences success of any kind, the British press is intent on tearing them limb from limb. Nevertheless, the music seems to be a cut above the typical alterna-pop dross. I'm curious to hear what the live show was like. Susan? Jay? Anyone? (probably best taken off-list) DELTA PART - sharing the wealth I like Jeffery Vaska's idea of sharing our musical treasures with others on the list, but I'm not sure that everyone will be so happy about list bandwidth being used in this way. I haven't seen much response so far, but I imagine things will warm up once people start posting. Maybe if I don't see anything soon I'll test the water -- I could do with a few flames to warm this cold office! STRAWBERRY-BANANA PART - new Chesnutt For those who care, BAM magazine (BAM=Bay Area Music) just gave Vic's newie a rave five star review -- the only 5* one that issue. Bbmin7 PART - cyberspace's most wanted Nice to read that many of the recent shows have been occasions for Feglisters to meet in RL ("real life", for the uninitiated). Have any of these been photographically recorded? (I will hopefully have one of the SF event). If so, can we coordinate a suitable (or unsuitable) page on woj's Website? Drop me a note off-list. [enough parts already, Ed] Err.. that's it. -Nick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:25:11 -0600 (CST) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: Re: A chord question Usually it means that you add the scale degree which corresponds to the number to the chord (which already includes the 1st, 3rd, and 5th). Thus, a seventh chord consists of the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th degrees within a scale. For example, E7 is E(which is the 1st note in E major), G#(3rd), B(5th), and D(7th). Although, I should warn you that some people use numbers to refer to the fret on which a bar chord is to be played. If this makes no sense, I can try again, Andy On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, David Willems wrote: > > > What does it mean when there is a number in parenthases after a chord > (ex. A(5) etc..)? > > If it means further up on the fret board how does one play it? > > Thanks, > > David > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:58:26 -0700 From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: Career Arc.... >From: RxBroome@aol.com > >The zenith of Robyn's popularity was around 1991 and 1992, with "Perspex" and >the single, you know, "Love Is a Terrible Thing to Waste" or whatever. How do you arrive at that conclusion? Wouldn't the earlier "Balloon Man"/"Madonna Of The Wasps" period be Robyn's commercial peak? Broome#2 ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:01:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: A chord question The (5) indicates that the chord is played on fret 5. Most books use roman numerals to show this. I hate roman numerals. It's more of a personal style than anything else.. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks Second Student in the Tendo Kasumi School of Philosophy -Seeking enlightenment through normalcy. normal@grove.ufl.edu On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, David Willems wrote: > > > What does it mean when there is a number in parenthases after a chord > (ex. A(5) etc..)? > > If it means further up on the fret board how does one play it? > > Thanks, > > David > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:57:35 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: beacon and eggs also sprach chao@mail.voyagerco.com (Tom X. Chao): >I wasn't quite as enthralled with this show as the March 1995 Bottom Line >show, for a purely mechanical reason. Once you get up close, it's hard to >sit in the back after that. and when you do sit up close at the beacon, your neck doesn't forgiv you for an entire week. >Upon entering, you think, "This is not such >a big place." Then the performer comes out and looks like a tiny microbe >in the distance. the beacon is a weird place. when you're in the back or up in the balconies, it seems like a large place, but when you look back from the front, it seems quite small for a theatre of its capacity. >I was really mesmerized by the vast amount of negative >space around Robyn and Billy. "negative space"? what's that? >Billy was fuckin' hilarious: except that he used the same jokes in washington, philly and new york. granted, you can't expect a performer to have completely different between-song banter from night to night, but one would expect *some* variation. also sprach lj lindhurst : >What, no reviews/tales from this show? didn't see mine buried in the megalopolis post? >Didn't see any of the other fegs! Where was everyone? I was looking for a >guy with a picture of toast on his shirt (that would be woj), but didn't >see him! How disappointing, I was looking forward to meeting everyone. i got there minutes before robyn went on stage and didn't have much time to hang out in the lobby. afterwards, i was pooped and left almost immediately. >Maybe at the Maxwell's shows...? They're not sold-out, are they? nope. i picked up tickets for myself this afternoon and there were a healthy stack of them left at tunes in hoboken. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:58:54 -0700 From: rgodfrey@swlink.net (Ryan Godfrey) Subject: New Yorker Blurb Thus sayeth the current issue of the New Yorker (Nov. 18), announcing a concert already three days old (although the magazine probably gets to City subscribers before it gets to far-off lands like Arizona and Hoboken): Robyn Hitchcock/Billy Bragg--Hitchcock's predilection for psychedelia has long made him the heir apparent to Syd Barrett's acid-king throne, but it's his knack for jangly pop melodies which rescues him from what would otherwise be offensively willful quirkiness. His performances are better than his recordings (which tend to sound as if they were recorded in the middle of a rain forest), and they're famous for their perfect distillation of British wit and weirdness. / Post-punk's premier socialist is an odd case: a shaky singer, a remedial guitarist, and an inveterate proselytizer (a typical medley consists of a few moldy union songs, an impromptu reading of Blake's "Jerusalem," and the "Internationale"). So what accounts for Bragg's unflagging popularity? It must have something to do with the way he weaves the theatre of politics in with the politics of the bedroom. The nineties have been rough on him, but Bragg remains a commanding onstage presence; his droll banter and heartfelt, often hilarious material prove that you can still win a few battles after losing the war. I'm not really sure what is meant by the rain forest thing. I'm half-tempted to accuse the reviewer of offensively willful quirkiness. --rdG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:05:07 -0500 From: sister ernestine Subject: fegMANIA! also sprach Nick Winkworth : >Bbmin7 PART - cyberspace's most wanted >Nice to read that many of the recent shows have been occasions for >Feglisters to meet in RL ("real life", for the uninitiated). Have any of >these been photographically recorded? (I will hopefully have one of the >SF event). If so, can we coordinate a suitable (or unsuitable) page on >woj's Website? Drop me a note off-list. just so all and sundry are aware, i'd like to have a fegmaniax-specific area on the fegpage. someplace where the fegographics, various poll results, phots of list members, links to their webpages, tape tree info, etc. can find a home. so if anyone has something they'd like to add to the site, contact me off-list and i'll see what i can do. note that fegMANIA! will be moving to ecto.org sometime soon since i am running out of space on remus. when this happens, i'll start working in earnest on compiling discographical information, lyrics, tab, etc. in one place. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:30:37 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Postmodern, and a cuppa tea >o.k. can't disagree with rex here for the most part. but, in my mind does >pop up that whole modern/post-modern debate. which i think could be >applied to tastes in music, if you were to look at social structures as >well. but, will i say anything more about this? probably not, because with >school and all that i have enough semi-realistic matters at hand. >suck on post-modernism, the irony is that Billy's music is beautifully post-modern. Lotsa bits from other "classic" songs stuck in just to shock people into hearing them there - to change the mood etc. Getting damn near plagiarism at times ("Ideology" vs "Chimes of Freedom"), but truly used in the post-modern sense of pasting in (almost "manually sampling", I suppose) sometjhing that was seen as popular, and by giving it a deferential nod in this way, making it "classic". And at the same time breaking the mood and giving the punters something else to think about. Thus Billy nicked, erm, reclaimed two lines of Paul Simon in "A New England", varying a Bob Dylan title to arrive at "From a Vauxhall Velox", and gloriously squeezing the bassline of "Last Train to Clarkesville" into the fadeout of "Mother of the Bride". >Actually, it was my thirtieth birthday yesterday. Yeah. And I went to see >Vic Chestnutt and had a lovely time. >I don't mean to carp again, but I'm a big Vic fan and it drives me NUTS >how everyone misspells his last name! C-H-E-S-N-U-T-T. No third "T!" You sure it's not Chesnuttt? James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:35:33 +1300 (NZDT) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: long lists "jeffery j vaska" idled away an odd moment by pondering: >ok, now that our most recent poll has been completed and we have >discovered who we all listen to most - the most popular stuff - why don't >we try to doing things a little backwards. what i am proposing is for >people to donate a list of their favorite, most interesting, etc., off the >beaten path musicians/bands. >back to my point, for whoever is interested in participating, pick a bunch >of (more or less) obscure bands and write a brief explanation describing >them (stuff like where they are from, some obvious influences, when they >existed, etc.). i know we have some super connoiseurs (spelling?) out >there who can enlighten all of us regarding some great stuff. what about >it? sounds like a sure-fire way to make the list even busier, but al tleast people will stop talking about invading other lists (then again, the Billy Bragg list is historically part of the Robyn Hitchcock list, isn't it? ;). OK - here's two lists: one list of the truly weird, and one of deep southern music for Robyn Fans, to start you off: THE TRULY WEIRD: Hedningarna - several weird Vikings from Sweden and Finland, who sound roughly like Nina Hagen meeting a demented violinist at a country hoedown. Amazingly catchy, especially since the lyrics are incomprehensible (unless you speak Finnish) The Tall Dwarfs - Two minimalist musicians from New Zealand. Chris Knox and Alec Bathgate have the same sort of skewed view of the world as Robyn Hitchcock, but they use found objects and tape effects to add to their warped ditties. Imagine "Eye" with casiotone and cowbell accompaniment, and you'll get the general idea. Shriekback, Danielle Dax - both these acts can best be described as "Gleefully Evil". Happy bouncy pop about death, demons, voodoo, and all that other happy stuff. Catchy as hell. Renaldo and the Loaf - Out-Resident the Residents. R&tL are the much overlooked British (I think) equivalent of America's eccentric Residents, but a bit more accessible (as accessible as anyone with songs titled "Here's to the oblong boys" and "Extracting the ree-ree" can be, anyway). The Inhalers - a New Zealand band who try their best to redefine novelty. Probably most comparable to They Might be Giants, but a little less "geeky" (no offence intended!). Typical titles: "I wrecked my ship on stadium rock", "Power Station Family Robinson", and "The sozzled ghost of Carlos (surname unsupplied)". Recommended albums: Hedningarna - Kaksi!; Tall Dwarfs - Fork Songs, Weeville; Shriekback - Jam Science, Oil and Gold; Danielle Dax - Dark Adapted Eye; Renaldo and the Loaf - The Elbow is Taboo; The Inhalers - Holy Family Three-Pack ANTIPODEAN MUSIC FOR ROBYN FANS: The Tall Dwarfs - see above Paul Kelly - Australian singer/songwriter with a knack for well crafted catchy music with a decidedly Robynesque sound (musically, if not lyrically). The Muttonbirds - New Zealanders who write very catchy, if a bit underproduced, music with gloriously skewed lyrics. "I measure time by the things I use up, and just like my shopping list, I will never change". The best guitar, bass, drum and euphonium band in the world! The Chills - Martin Phillipps and the Chills were writing REM-like music before anyone had ever heard of REM. But when Stipey and his mates started heading towards stadium rock, the Chills continued to be the main band in the gorgeous indie "Dunedin Sound". If you like groups like early REM, Rain Parade, and the Feelies, you'd like The Chills. The same is also true for other New Zealand bands such as the Bats, the Verlaines, David Kilgour and Sneaky Feelings. And of course, I've gotta mention Crowded House! The Triffids - Australia's Triffids always had a slightly bittersweet edge to their songs, which mix a small touch of country (most evident on "In the Pines") with roots in Liverpool in both the sixties and the eighties (there is a distinct touch of Echo and the Bunnymen circa "The Killing Moon" that occasionally surfaces), blending both with their own lush, evocative "farawayness". A little more sparse and raw are the GoBetweens, another fine Aussie band. More experimental, and frequently more interesting, are the Church. The Church's Steve Kilbey and GoBetween GW MacLennan also have a great side-project band, Jack Frost. Dave Dobbyn - more pop oriented than most of the above (except possibly Crowded House) is New Zealand's Dave Dobbyn. Writer of some marvellous songs that are too indie to be commercial, too commercial to be indie. If you like Neil Finn, you should like Dave Dobbyn. Recommended albums: Tall Dwarfs - Fork Songs, Weeville; Paul Kelly - Gossip; Muttonbirds - Nature (a compilation of their first, self-titled album and "Salty", their second album); The Chills - Submarine Bells;The Bats - Daddy's Highway; The Verlaines - Ready to Fly; David Kilgour - Sugar Mouth; Sneaky Feelings - Send You; Crowded House - Recurring Dream (best of); The Triffids - Born Sandy Devotional, Calenture; GoBetweens - Tallulah; The Church - Seance, Priest = Aura; Jack Frost - Snow Job; Dave Dobbyn - Lament for the Numb James (ah, I feel better now!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Dot, the Itchy God." Subject: Re: Postmodern, and a cuppa tea i said a while ago... > > >suck on post-modernism, opps i ment stuck not suck here! this is a *serious* proofreading error on my part. how do i feel...you know. i have never sucked on any post-modern anything, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:59:38 -0500 (EST) From: "`!'" Subject: Re: Postmodern, and a cuppa tea On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Dot, the Itchy God. wrote: > i said a while ago... > > > > >suck on post-modernism, > > opps i ment stuck not suck here! this is a *serious* proofreading > error on my part. how do i feel...you know. and here i thought it was such a witty reference to the pastels! (who weren't (aren't?) especially post modern tho) -- oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug -- dmayowel@access.digex.net a.k.a. dougmhyphw@aol.com -- get yr recently updated pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .