From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #213 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 213 Tuesday October 22 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- yet another review 'fortunate son' New Game! Re: New Game! Re: New Game! Did you miss me? hello favourite Re: favourite One More Moss Elixir Review Re: WHUPS! Correction! Re: favourite Re: favourite Re: favourite favourite hitchchar FWD: RE: Feminist humor (fwd) Re: Feminist humor (fwd) Re: Feminist humor Re: favourite ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:00:59 -0700 From: Ryan Godfrey Subject: yet another review For the sake of critical completism, the review of ME from the November _Interview_, in its entirety: Robyn Hitchcock Moss Elixir (Warner Bros.) Robyn Hitchcock has always had a way of communicating a beauty--and corrosion--lurking just below the surface of a sterile, prepackaged world. This album boasts another exquisite cast of characters, all with their beautiful eccentricities lovingly punctuated by Hitchcock's brusque, husky voice and engaging melodies. Witness the man who walks with a woman's shadow, or the woman who's "like a chandelier festooned with leeches." She, like Hitchcock himself, walks the difficult tightrope of being "sinister, but happy." RAY ROGERS Again with the leeches... --Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:06:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: 'fortunate son' A robyn tape i have on loan (10 november 93, japan) has a solo robyn doing a song i don't recognise. it appears to be called 'fortunate son', but as you'll see, it's not the one by credence. weirdly, the audience seems to recognise it. he seems to play it on an amplified acoustic plugged into a rat pedal. i dare say it's almost punk. well i never eat rats and / i never eat flies there's a kind of distinction you can see in my eyes i got ships on the water, i got planes in the air and as of last writing i still got my own hair cos i'm a... [guitar break] fortunate son (2x) got one golden angel beaming (something) from above surrounded by power (something something) love, got lots of divorces, i just do as i please got a long ray of pleasure on a sea of disease cos i'm... i said please, i said please and nobody bothers me nobody hurts me at all i got 1974 (!) and 1963 / i got all kinds of time zones mean something to me i got eggs in my mother i got seeds in my dad and when i'm dead and over i'll only be glad cos i was a... Maybe it is a Robyn song, and the audience got excited cos he kicked on the dirt pedal. Anyone have any light to shed on this? it almost seems like it could be a twisted dylan song, twisted a little more than usual. thanks for the loan of the tapes john (and rob). i'll be sending them back soon, really! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:28:43 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: New Game! Well, not new, actually, but a variation of an old one. Sample Problem: Get from Robyn Hitchcock to Syd Barrett. Rule: You are only allowed to pair off people who have made a record together. Solution in 4 moves: Pair 1: Robyn Hitchcock and Steve Hillage (album Groovy Decay) Pair 2: Steve Hillage and Daevid Allen (numerous Gong albums) Pair 3: Daevid Allen and Mike Ratledge (Soft Machine: The Early Years (not sure about the title: the one produced by Gomelsky) Pair 4: Mike Ratledge and Syd Barrett (The Madcap Laughs) Fun, huh? You could use Robert Wyatt instead of Mike Ratledge, but I don't think it can be done in fewer moves. Would anyone like to try, say, Robyn Hitchcock to Roger McGuinn? Or any other pair? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 06:15:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: New Game! On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > > Well, not new, actually, but a variation of an old one. > > Sample Problem: Get from Robyn Hitchcock to Syd Barrett. > > Rule: You are only allowed to pair off people who have made a record > together. > > Solution in 4 moves: > Pair 1: Robyn Hitchcock and Steve Hillage (album Groovy Decay) > Pair 2: Steve Hillage and Daevid Allen (numerous Gong albums) > Pair 3: Daevid Allen and Mike Ratledge (Soft Machine: The Early Years > (not sure about the title: the one produced by Gomelsky) > Pair 4: Mike Ratledge and Syd Barrett (The Madcap Laughs) > > Fun, huh? You could use Robert Wyatt instead of Mike Ratledge, but I don't > think it can be done in fewer moves. > > Would anyone like to try, say, Robyn Hitchcock to Roger McGuinn? Or any > other pair? > > - Mike Godwin > Yes, I'll take a shot. macca-Elvis Costello Elvis Costello-marc Ribot Marc Ribot-Tom Waits Tom Waits- Morris Tepper Morris Tepper- ROBYN Ok, so, that was 5 moves :). So sue me. I'm just a loser popnerd. Susan P.S. To Rexy Stardust- Over and over again, my love. By the way- it was actually a knife sharpener :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 13:46:23 BST From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: New Game! At 10:28 AM 22/10/96, M R Godwin wrote: >Would anyone like to try, say, Robyn Hitchcock to Roger McGuinn? Or any >other pair? Robyn-Morris Tepper Morris Tepper-John French (Doc At The Radar Station ?) John French-Richard Thompson (FFKT) Richard Thompson-Crowded House (some old album or other) Crowded House-Roger McGuinn (ditto) Dick & Rog have played together, but I don't think anything has been officially released (unless you count TV broadcasts). But that would cut out one step. Jonathan. ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 16:00:46 +0100 Subject: Did you miss me? Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Hi guys and guyesses, I'm back and a father again. (Nathan this time.) I'm also pretty miffed to see that I'm in Calif. next week and Robyn arrives the following week. Bummer. I'll just have to go home and caress my QE CD again. (Did you get the cash Bayard?) Hamish (still raking through two weeks of digest) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:29:12 -0500 From: "Daniel J. Troy" Subject: hello Howdy fegs, My name is Dan, and I'm relatively new to the list. I've been lurking for a few weeks, and I thought such voyeurism had to be done with. This is probably the most interesting list serv I've come across. I'm mucho impressed with the knowledge and interests of the contributors. Keep up the good work, all. I'm a grad student in public policy at Georgetown and (more importantly) a Robyn fan since about 1985. As a DC resident, I'm looking forward to the 9:30 Club show on Nov. 13th. I'll be interested to hear what people think of the shows as RH makes his way around the country. I'll sign off now, as I have nothing important to say. Just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. Hello. Dan Troy Last 5 CDs I've played: Skylarking-XTC Surrender to Jonathan -J. Richman (Great show last Sat. at the 9:30) Parklife- Blur Underwater Moonlight - SBs Worls Shut Your Mouth - Julian Cope ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: favourite I was just re-reading the liner notes to one of the Bob Dylan boxed sets (I believe it is 'Biograph'). In it, the author mentions a costume party were everyone in attendance is dressed as their favourite Dylan character. Fegs, since Halloween is approaching, what Hitchcock character would you dress up as for a costume party? I was thinking of something simple, like a conductor's outfit with the name tag being 'Milo'. I'm sure that somebody out there can come up with something amusing. good luck griffith ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@email.csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:54:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Vashty Hawkins Subject: Re: favourite Oh, without a doubt Madonna of the Wasps (with pointy-coned yellow-and-black-striped bra) Alright, back to lurking ... Vashty ------------------------------ From: ben@deafkhan.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:57:33 -0700 Subject: One More Moss Elixir Review Here's another Moss Elixir review that appeared in the Vol II, #6 issue of Smug Magazine, a free NYC area music mag: Robyn Hitchcock, whose kooky lyrics about deep-sea fish and spanners helped get me through many a rough moment of adolescence, is back again. This time I welcome with open arms. 'Moss Elixir' is Hitchcock's strongest album since his 1986 outing, 'Element of Light'. Between then and now, Hitchcock's work became increasingly self-conscious, marred by dangerous lapses into self-parody. Most of the songs on 'Moss Elixir', however, revive the effortless, breezy charm of Hitchcock's earlier work, and showcase his knack for writing a helluva crafty, if somewhat bizarre, pop tune. Longtime Hitchcock fans, whether they prefer his Soft Boys-era psychedelia or his later forays into quirky acoustic folk, will find much to enjoy on 'Moss Elixir'. "The Speed of Things" recalls 'Element of Light''s "Winchester," ambling along at a sleepy but graceful pace. Hitchcock's recent collaboration with Beat Happening's Calvin Johnson brings us "A Man With a Woman's Shadow," an unnerving number with a plaintive harmonica wail. It's a twisted ballad somewhere between Johnny Cash and Nick Cave territory, which Hitchcock makes even more eerie by subduing his usually off-the-cuff vocal delivery. "I Am Not Me" is another standout, a song that seems more influenced by Neil Young's snarling guitars than by the less abrasive sounds of Hitchcock's usual muse, John Lennon. Several tracks even possess the potential to break Hitchcock into the big leagues. The sunny "Alright Yeah" sounds almost exactly like REM's "Near Wild Heaven," and "Beautiful Queen" is the sort of straightforward, good-natured pop that would never seem out of place in MTV rotation. He may never attain mainstream acceptance, however, because his lyrics are as strange as ever. "The Devil's Radio" buries some trite commentary about Rush Limbaugh and his ilk among lines about weevils and Mao Tse-Tung (as well as a classic come-on line, "Darling, you don't have to call me Stalin"). Hitchcock continues to experiment with unusual musical structures, too, but not as often as he once did. Those jonesing for this kind of peculiarity should look no further than "Filthy Bird," which begins as gentle folk and becomes increasingly peppered with unidentifiable noises and angelic choir interludes. -Megan Brown [End of article] It seems like every reviewer is required to quote that darlin'/Stalin Limbaugh/bimbo part. Ben http://www.deafkhan.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 96 14:46:22 EDT From: Doc <75602.2577@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: WHUPS! Correction! >2. Chicago Draft House (one block south of the other place)- Beer >selection not as good, and according to Dr. the crowd is a bit jockish, >so it would seem that the main advantage of this place is that bar-style >food is readily available. The Draft House has changed names in my absence...I don't know the new name right now. Pity...I prefered calling it the "daft house", arf, arf. (That bar has changed names and owners more often than I've changed underpants-- when I first moved to the neighbourhood it was called The Union [kaput in three months], then i got turned into a gothic bar called Houndstooth [open for nearly 7 seconds], then some goofy thing called Hunkpappa [eight days] and then CLOSED for ages and then Limerick's [two years], then the draft house, and now this thingy...the waves of trendiness make history...) But I'm told it's not wildly differmint from any of its previous incarnations. Sheffield's address is (I believe) 3258 N. Sheffield, if memory serves. Scootch is gonna smack the shite out of me. Have fun at the show. I'll be back at Thanksgiving time...if you are around at that time, mebbe we should meet up for that fermented grain beverage... Look after yerself. -Ed, Doc, listening to some of these Gene live tracks...I likes 'em! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:03:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: favourite On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Griffith Davies wrote: > > I was just re-reading the liner notes to one of the Bob Dylan boxed sets > (I believe it is 'Biograph'). In it, the author mentions a costume party > were everyone in attendance is dressed as their favourite Dylan character. Isn't that a wonderful idea? I can't ever seem to get any of my lamer friends interested in throwing a party like that with me- I guess I'll try AGAIN next year :). > Fegs, since Halloween is approaching, what Hitchcock character would you > dress up as for a costume party? I call dibs on The Queen of Eyes. This one is perfect for me because I have a marked penchant for black thigh-high stockings. I'm not sure what to do about the carapace shell, though :). If I weren't that, I'd be the woman in Egyptian Cream, complete with detachable hands (and long french-manicured nails). Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 14:54:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: favourite > I was just re-reading the liner notes to one of the Bob Dylan boxed sets > (I believe it is 'Biograph'). In it, the author mentions a costume party > were everyone in attendance is dressed as their favourite Dylan character. I'll be Leutenant Hodges and my wife can be a loaf of bread. ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:01:14 -0500 Subject: Re: favourite > I call dibs on The Queen of Eyes... > If I weren't that, I'd be the woman in Egyptian Cream, complete with > detachable hands (and long french-manicured nails)... > Susan And surely you wouldn't forget your ironing board! Or the hair to grow all over your skin, kind of like a Chia Pet. I would like to be the man with the lightbulb head, sporting a trenchcoat, a lightbulb head and nothing else. Or Lady Waters, with 3-dimensional boils plastered on my skin, obscured by veil and gloves. And then there's Reg, who'll leave you gurgling behind the hedge. I think he'd look like the Hamburgler from McDonald's commercials. Of course, one could always be a chandelier festooned with leeches... Aaron J. Sparrow Research Assistant Population Studies Center The Urban Institute 2100 M Street, NW Washington, DC 20037 (202) 857-8510 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:13:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: favourite hitchchar so many to choose from! how about the face of death? i'm not overly familiar with the Dylan canon, but it seems to me RH's characters would be a lot easier to pick out of a lineup. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:28:08 -0400 From: Alex Tanter Subject: FWD: RE: Feminist humor (fwd) martha_nell_smith@umail.umd.edu, tmorris@uta.edu, marmaluk@beaver.edu eng-grad@english.umass.edu Return-path: Received: from rfd.oit.umass.edu (rfd.oit.umass.edu) by oitvms.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #6523) id <01IAYBYKPKDU8XCUCO@oitvms.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:33:22 -0400 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by rfd.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #6523) id <01IAYBWGH8C0000U8Y@rfd.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@oitvms.oit.umass.edu; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:32:34 -0400 Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca) by rfd.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #6523) id <01IAYBW6OX30000P0C@rfd.oit.umass.edu> for tanter@econs.umass.edu; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:31:21 -0400 Received: from fraser (fraser-ep7.sfu.ca [192.168.0.101]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.6/SFU-2.7H) id PAA23468 for (from tadcockg@sfu.ca); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fraser (950413.SGI.8.6.12/SFU-2.6C) id PAA04594 for tanter@econs.umass.edu (from tadcockg@sfu.ca); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:31:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy Ryan Adcock Gibson Subject: Re: Feminist humor (fwd) Message-id: <199610222231.PAA04594@fraser> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Forwarded message: >From femecon-l@bucknell.edu Tue Oct 22 12:24:08 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:19:46 -0400 Message-Id: <326D06F4.2CA9@ix.netcom.com> Errors-To: jshackel@bucknell.edu Reply-To: femecon-l@bucknell.edu Originator: femecon-l@bucknell.edu Sender: femecon-l@bucknell.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Schweitzer Subject: Re: Feminist humor X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Feminist Economists Discussion Group Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) A woman is walking along a pond and suddenly a frog speaks up: "I am a handsome prince, but an evil witch put an enchantment on me. Kiss me, and I will turn back into a handsome prince." She says, well, THAT's interesting, picks him up and puts him in her pocket and continues her walk. Shortly the frog begins to jump up and down. She takes him out and he says, "Really, I mean it -- Kiss me and I will turn into a handsome prince." She puts him back in the pocket and continues on. He tries again. Jumps up and down VERY insistently this time. So she takes him out. "It's true. All you have to do is kiss me and I'll become a handsome prince. Why won't you do that?" She replies, "I'd really rather have a talking frog." cha-boom Mary Schweitzer, Dept. of History, Villanova University (on leave 1995-??) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE FOR JOURNALISTS AND RESEARCHERS: Please ask for written permission from all direct participants before quoting any material posted on FEMECON-L. ------------------------------ How do you work this thing? From: Waka Jawaka Subject: Re: favourite Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:54:01 -0700 At 11:36 22.10.96 -0700, Griffith Davies wrote: >Fegs, since Halloween is approaching, what Hitchcock character would you >dress up as for a costume party? I guess I would have to choose from amongst Queen Elvis, the Man-next-door's best friend, or a Sleeping Knight of Jesus. My best friend and I did something similar once where we asked people to come as a character from a Beatles' song. My girlfriend and I went as Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam. The best costume idea, however, was by a longtime friend Merissa, who was conspicuously absent. When I inquired of Merissa's whereabouts, her best friend said that she had gotten sick that afternoon and thought it best not to attend the party. "But she's still technically a Beatles' character," said her friend. "Which one?" I asked. "'Nowhere Man', of course," was the reply. Now *that* was clever... Cheers, --g _______________________________________________________________________ "It's just something I'll have to *PLAY WITH* and hope it gets better." --Steve Young, on his groin injury _______________________________________________________________________ Glen Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .