From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #206 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 206 Sunday October 13 1996 To post, send mail to fegmaniax@ecto.org To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@ecto.org with the words "unsubscribe fegmaniax-digest" in the message body. Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/index.html Archives are available at ftp://www.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: I wanna destroy you? Glenoceanside revisited the coach house Circle Jerks Re: I wanna destroy you? Re: I wanna destroy you? intro Jocelyn Pook Circle Jerks & Debbie Gibson Wanna Destroy You Wangbo: First Blood Part II FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE AN IRON HORSE SHOW Black Death Waltz ------------------------------ From: "Glen E. Uber" Subject: Re: I wanna destroy you? Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:05:55 -0700 At 00:50 12.10.96 -0700, Ryan Godfrey wrote: >I just saw a video clip on Beavis and Butthead that was a bit >interesting--The Circle Jerks doing what sounded very much like "I Wanna >Destroy You." >I'm not the world's biggest Circle Jerks fan, so I don't know: Is this a >certified Soft Boys cover or is it just a remarkably similar-sounding >coincidence? It is indeed 'I Wanna Destroy You'. Interesting side note: Debbie Gibson sings background vocals on the Jerks' version of the song. Okay, so maybe it's not so interesting... > >BTW, has Robyn qua Robyn ever been similarly featured on Beavis & >Butthead? Uh, Tracy? Do you have, like, something to say about this or something? --g ______________________________________________________________________ "I never made a mistake in grammar but one in my life and as soon as I done it, I seen it." --Carl Sandberg ______________________________________________________________________ Glen Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ------------------------------ From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 11:22:35 -0400 (EDT) CC: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: Glenoceanside revisited OK fegs. The Keswick is selling very very quickly. I picked up seats(and yes, 2 for you Tom, and one for you,Woz)last night, and there twerent a whole lotta choice left. We're up front all right, but definiattly side-angled. It must be all those dastardly Billy bragg fans. Anyway, I researching the bars in the area. theres a pasta place right next door, and if it searves the proper emmollients as well, it might be a good rondevous point. Mark--any opinions?. Just a few blocks down from the Keswick is a spot most Robynesque. Humphries Pest Control Bug Museaum, to be exact. Dead and mounted. Thousands of them. Its sorta a local landmark. If anyone really really shares Robyns bug fascination, I recommend a stop. Death to all Tyrents, especially those in my immediate vicinetty, K ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:04:03 -0400 From: sister ernestine Subject: the coach house ticketmaster is now listing robyn and billy playing at the coach house in san juan capistrano on november 9th. warner brothers' tour dates does not list this, but they have updated anything in a couple weeks. those of you in los angeles may wish to take note. woj ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 96 15:18:26 EDT From: "Mod Girl (Can't be beat)" <101356.2516@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Circle Jerks [I Wanna Destroy You] > I'm not the world's biggest Circle Jerks fan, so I don't know: > Is this a certified Soft Boys cover It is not only a genuine cover - but features Debbie Gibson (yes, that Debbie Gibson) as one of the vocalists. Were it not for _In Defence Of Animals_, this would be the worst commercially-released cover of a Hitchcock song ever. While I'm here, can I request everyone check out Box Office Poison at http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonic/bop.htm and buy lots and lots of copies of all their records (although if you have any liking for the originals of 'Kingdom of Love', 'See My Friends' or 'Thank You Friends' you might want to avoid their, um, unusual interpretations). Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:48:33 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: I wanna destroy you? > At 00:50 12.10.96 -0700, Ryan Godfrey wrote: > > >BTW, has Robyn qua Robyn ever been similarly featured on Beavis & > >Butthead? > Beavis and Butthead rule! Like that one time, they were watching that Flaming Lips video, and that hippie singer said his girlfriend made him toast, and Butthead said "So what? Even I can make toast!" That was cool! And they dried Van Driessen's 8-tracks in the toaster! But that, like, wasn't a toaster, it was a cartoon, and some of the things they do could get you arrested, expelled ... oh yeah, Robyn Hitchcock. The B & B epichoad guide at http://www.cs.new.edu/home/image says they've never done Hitchcock (though they did watch Katrina and the Waves' "Walking on Sunshine" video in "Baby Makes, uh, Three.") On Sat, 12 Oct 1996, Glen E. Uber wrote: > Uh, Tracy? Do you have, like, something to say about this or something? > A year or so I posted a "What if Beavis and Butthead watched some Robyn Hitchcock videos?" writeup. It's 7 or 8K, too long to a repost, but if you missed it and can't live without it I'll gladly mail you a copy. It's probably in the archives for the summer of '95, somewhere. Tracy toast@indy.net ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I wanna destroy you? > > I'm not the world's biggest Circle Jerks fan, so I don't know: Is this a > certified Soft Boys cover or is it just a remarkably similar-sounding > coincidence? Cover. Not, from what I've heard, a good one, though > > BTW, has Robyn qua Robyn ever been similarly featured on Beavis & > Butthead? Not to my knowledge Terrrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:37:29 -0500 (CDT) From: donald andrew snyder Subject: intro Greetings fellow fans, I recently joined the list and am impressed with the postings (perhaps til now). I am a new student in the Divinity School at the University of Chicago and am enjoying the fruits of city life like Robyn concerts and even songs on the radio. Is anyone going to the Oct 30 show at the Vic? I am an aspiring guitarist/songwriter and don't know much about painting except that strings can sound like gold, death, spring, or just about anything depending on the emotive state of the listener (sometimes they even sound like steel). Some of the artists that have kept me happy and humble--even colorful: Replacements, Neil Young, Big Star, Rolling Stones, Richard Thompson, The Kinks, Pere Ubu, Bob Dylan, Television, Beatles, American Music Club, Ry Cooder, REM, Husker Du, Leonard Cohen, Velvet Underground, Van Morrison, and Elvis Costello. Hope you're pleased to meet me, Andy Snyder da-snyder@uchicago.edu ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Jocelyn Pook Just like to point out that Jocelyn Pook, violist on Respect and Queen Elvis appears also on the High Llamas CD. Most of you probably don't care. I just found it interesting. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: RxyStardst@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:00:46 -0400 Subject: Circle Jerks & Debbie Gibson Wanna Destroy You Ryan asks: "I just saw a video clip on Beavis and Butthead that was a bit interesting--The Circle Jerks doing what sounded very much like "I Wanna Destroy You." The boys were vigorously dissing the ten-second clip the whole time ("this song sucks! yeah! i could write a better song than that! do it! uh, i wanna... hit you." etc.), and I'm kinda half-asleep, so admittedly my perception of the song might be kind of muddled (basically a pink-orange with little green pinstripes). I'm not the world's biggest Circle Jerks fan, so I don't know: Is this a certified Soft Boys cover or is it just a remarkably similar-sounding coincidence?" It's even weirder than that. It's the Circle Jerks with Debbie Gibson on backing vocals! Not a big CJ's fan myself, but three of four years ago, CJ's lead singer-- I think his name is Keith Morris?-- had a band called Buglamp that played around LA and was much beloved by the LA press. I saw them on a huge benefit bill at the Palladium and just about lost it when they closed their set with "Destroy You". It was slowed down but sounded pretty good-- it was rillyweird, though, to see these aged SoCal punk dudes playing it, especially the dreadlocked Morris who stomped around the stage like a true "Rawk Star", pointing ominously at the crowd every time the "you" in the chorus came up. Apparently, when he killed Buglamp and reformed the Jerks as a nostalgia move, he kept "Destroy You" and released the Debbie Gibson version as their single(!). Since the reunion was a nostalgia thing, I guess that the "vintage" nature of the cover was a street-cred thing, even if Robyn ain't much loved by punks. The song probably sounded a lot less ironic now that so many rock songs have earnest lyrics about wanting to kill people or tear them up from the inside or fuck their corpses and all that... BTW, my favorite personal experience with this song was when, during college, I cranked it up really loud and my musical-theatre-type roommate commented, without missing a beat, "Oh, I didn't know the Disney people had put a new record out!"... Rexy Stardust ------------------------------ From: RxyStardst@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:00:52 -0400 Subject: Wangbo: First Blood Part II Nick reminds us: "Alan Davis was indeed the original guitarist with the Soft Boys and plays on their first recordings." And who was also known as "Wangbo"-- anyone know why? A long time ago we were talking about the pink SB's picture disc ("Ventilator", etc) and the fact that it had pictures on it which included two guys in the same photo both of whom looked like Robyn with a beard. The guy wearing the spectacular homemade vinyl-letter T-shirt reading "Give It To the Soft Boys" turned out to be ol' Wangbo himself. The Annoying Young Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:50:51 -0400 From: Alex Tanter Subject: FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE AN IRON HORSE SHOW I'm really fed up. The Iron Horse doesn't know if the show will happen or not. So.......I'm thinking of sending Robyn a note to the Fed Hall in Waterloo, Canada. He's going to be there on Oct. 26 and I've just emailed the Fed people asking if they'd pass on a note if I sent it. Maybe if we get in touch with him directly Robyn will see that lots of people would like to see him at the Iron Horse, maybe he'll kick his managers in the butt. Anyone with me? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:10:40 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Black Death Waltz >Ever heard of the "Black Death Waltz"? I'm not sure if that's the proper >title, as I'm going purely on memory here, but I do remember reading >something about this piece being all the rage in Hungary sometime in the >19teens and being blamed for some 21 suicides. Does anyone know anything >more about this (I am ashamed somewhat to admit that I read about this in >an issue of "Answer Me", which I can't find at this moment to check up on >the exact title and death count). I've heard somewhere, sometime (back in the dim mists of memory) that the title of the New Order track "Blue Monday" came from a 19th century piece of music that had this effect. That might just be an urban myth though. Certainly some pieces of pipe organ music use subharmonics which have nasty effects on the nervous system in a number of ways, one of which is to affect mood. It is possible that such a piece could affect mood enough to cause suicides. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .