From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #199 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 199 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: A man, a woman and a guitar Re: Trilobite Dwight Re: MIX article duck glassfleshweb Re: Robyn in Germany Re: Robyn in Germany Ohhhhhhhhhh really? Rex tackles the Difficult Subjects. When I was Dead [Gear Question] Re: Rex tackles the Difficult Subjects. shortest distance between Boston and Northampton is... poor man's Hitchcock questions about glenside--help! shortest distance between Boston and Northampton is... Re: glassfleshweb RE: life- bush of ghosts (little RH content) Re: Robyn in Germany Re: A man, a woman and a guitar Re: Screaming Blue Messiahs Re: MIX article Re: Statues in love, Freezing Blue Messiahs Re: glenoceanside Re: Ohhhhhhhhhh really?(non-Robyn content) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.) Subject: Re: A man, a woman and a guitar >From: Truman Peyote >Subject: Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs > >I must add something here, though. I once had a short-lived fling with a >fanatical purist blues guitarist who actually did have romantic feelings >towards his guitar. I'd rather not get into how this played out in terms >of our sex life, but it >was pretty damn weird even for me, and I'm not easily shocked as far as >these things go :). Oh, come on, Susan, SPILL!!! EB PS Did I read someone saying that Bryan Ferry's work is still good?? ------------------------------ From: Hello Dali Subject: Re: Trilobite Dwight Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:54:40 -0700 At 08:47 04.10.96 -0400, Peter William De Bonte wrote: >Robyn was playing a song probably titled something like this about >how people tend to give names to things they know nothing about >(well, that's a paraphrase I think...) at concerts last winter >does anyone know if this song is on Mossy Liquer or >any other recorded format? The song is 'Trilobite' and can be found on the vinyl-only _Mossy Liquor_. Hope this helps, --g ______________________________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ______________________________________________________________________ "I live and work in a community where priests rape young boys, where pit bulls chew through kids' heads, where you get shot in your car, where an angry black mob stabbed a Hasidic Jew and the mayor turned his back, where crack runs free like the River Ganges, and where movie directors fuck their wives' daughters. Somehow saying the word 'testicles' [on the radio] pales in comparison." --Howard Stern ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Engulfed in Living Slime From: Hello Dali Subject: Re: MIX article Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:56:05 -0700 At 18:16 04.10.96 -0400, ! wrote: >this email expresses interest. As does this one. > >i can recompense by typing in the cmj article, if there's interest in >that. And I can return the favor by typing in the review of ME from September's MOJO. Just give me a couple of days. Toodles, --g ______________________________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber glen@metro.net http://metro.net/glen/ ______________________________________________________________________ "I live and work in a community where priests rape young boys, where pit bulls chew through kids' heads, where you get shot in your car, where an angry black mob stabbed a Hasidic Jew and the mayor turned his back, where crack runs free like the River Ganges, and where movie directors fuck their wives' daughters. Somehow saying the word 'testicles' [on the radio] pales in comparison." --Howard Stern ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:03:35 -0700 From: stephen@transport.com (Stephen Austin Welch) Subject: duck After hearing Robyn's comments about "Filthy Bird", it seems to add a little more meaning to the down-side-up duck in the cd liner. stephen http://www.saw-art.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:08:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: glassfleshweb Glass Flesh musicians: send woj (woj@remus.rutgers.edu) pictures and text to go on the glass flesh web page. I'm going to be placing ads for the CD in magazines soon and i'd like the web site to be ready. He's pretty much all set to go but needs more graphics. Muchas gracias! bayard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Robyn in Germany my father had the whipped cream album too. oh, baby! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Flushing Sure Beats Brushing Subject: Re: Robyn in Germany On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Bayard wrote: > my father had the whipped cream album too. oh, baby! > perhaps one of these tape trees things should have robyn sitting in a mound of that cream stuff. i'm sure a little photoshop magic could make this happen. mmm... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 22:32:25 -0700 From: Ryan Godfrey Subject: Ohhhhhhhhhh really? Allenthequail says: >I will try not to >embarrass myself by saying anything along the order of "Hey - did you >know that Pink Floyd's _Wish You Were Here_ is about Syd Barrett," etc. An interesting theory... Seriously, while that might be what Roger and the gang wrote the song about, it's not a particularly scintillating explanation for what's going on in a nifty little song. "Wish You Were Here" refuses to take for granted levels of perception that no one has any business not taking for granted for any human at any sanity level. To paraphrase that last defiant sentence o' mine, the singer is asking if the singee can distinguish between--for example--blue skies and pain. I know some guy tried to wear his wife like a fedora, but I don't think it's possible for any living creature to mistake pain for some non-painy aspect of the physical world. At least, I think it would take some serious "Gravity's Rainbow"-style Pavlovian conditioning to get a subject to the point where a question like "Can you tell blue skies from pain?" becomes relevant. And I can't believe Syd was that far gone. I think the song _should_ be about a lonely AI researcher prepping his electronic Galatea for a Turing test--and realizing his decades-long project is a failure. Welcome to the machine, indeed. And welcome to the list, Allen. --Ryan ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 02:48:03 -0400 Subject: Rex tackles the Difficult Subjects. I: "Underwater Moonlight"; literary precedents thereof: Some months ago, I copied a lovely passage from Thomas Pynchon's "V" to the list which resonated ever so strongly with "UM"-- not so much the idea as the imagery. Well, I'd repost it now, but my copy of said novel is on loan. But it's eerie. The novel is also redolent of WWII raids; Messeschmidts abound. "Kawliga", however, leads us back to the never-poular thread about me and my dad's band, so I'll leave it alone... except to say that I'd kinda thought this was a public domain tune, but a quick search of my record collection reveals that it is indeed credited to Williams/Rose... II: Les Claypool Me: ">In the other LA alt.weekly, which shall remain nameless, I saw the following >perplexing statement in a Les Claypool review: >"Les Claypool is the poor man's Robyn Hitchcock, the Frank Zappa of the >bass..." >...and I thought WHA?!? I fail to see the validity of the first statement; >it similarly eludes me how the latter could be a good thing." Miles:" While I don't see the Robyn thing, my first reaction to Primus was, verbatim, "they combine the most annoying tendencies of both Rush and Zappa."" Well said! At least they had enough self-knowledge to adopt the too-true catch-phrase "Primus sucks". I personally am hard-pressed to think of any aspects of either Rush or Zappa that don't qualify as "annoying"... Truman: " This is awfully bizarre. The first statement is kind of a non-sequiter, and the second could be either a slam or compliment- without knowing the reviewer's feelings on Frank Zappa this is sort of difficult to gauge. Of course, it doesn't sound like a compliment to me, but I loathe Zappa, so....." Right-on comme d'habitude, darling. I think both were meant as compliments, but how it all fits together escapes me, and I actually waded through the whole goddam thing, trying to figure it out. Clearly, the journalist was a moron. III: Pete asks about "Trilobyte" It's to be found in all its glory on the vinyl-only "Mossy Liquor". A must. IV: Rex, guitars, sexuality, and, what the hell, Cadillacs again: Truman again: "I tend to prefer the more streamlined variety (of guitar). I wonder what Freud would have to say about this whole conversation." Many things about which we shouldn't care, no doubt... " The obvious conclusion (on (Freud's) part) would be that I long to usurp male power, and not being able to grow my own phallus, decided to buy one that looks like a Telecaster. Or something like that :)." Which is precisely why we shoudn't care what Freud would say (do I know you too well?)... but-- did Freud really think that Teles were more phallic than most other guitars :)? (nb. I DO get the real intention here, but most pseudo-phalli are cheaper than a Tele copy, as you know. How much does a China Pug go for these days, anyhow?) " I don't know what he'd say about your "curvy and femme-y" little numbers, Rex- perhaps that you are repressing a desire to copulate with them? :) :)" Actually, it's worse than that. As I've mentioned to some of you (hmmm... who is he talking about?) I consider playing the guitar to be one of the more feminine things I do. It might be inferred from that that I would rather BE the guitar I'm playing, and thus, by some twisted proxy, female (and I HAVE publicly played guitar in a perhaps disturbingly convincing English-Schoolgirl getup). Even that doesn't explain it. Probably it has more to do with the fact that I identify my freakish outsider stance more with either female artists, or male artists who are comfortable with tweaking their own gender-images, than with purveyors of cock-rock. Also, I'm more of a songwriter than a guitarist-guitarist, and, while I learned guitar from my father, I learned art from my mother. Yes, many undealt-with issues here, but let's leave Freud out of it. Rex To Whom May Be Mocking Us: Ne vous inquietez pas. Votre Taxi arriveras bientot. To Whomeverthefuck, re: the following: ">Huge success has frequently IMHO changed many artists and the calibre of >their music has suffered but I also think there are many exceptions. I >look at Neil Young and Peter Gabriel as two of these exceptions. Can >anyone else name others? I'll take those two, plus: Bryan Ferry (though he's never been big in the U.S.) R.E.M. (not to stir up THAT again) David Bowie (for most of his career, 1985-88 excepted)" My take (BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CARE!!!) Young: immortal Gabriel: from dust you come; to dust you shall return. With a few great albums in the mid-80's under your belt. Ferry: just now beginning to explore this one. REM: immortal immortal immortal Bowie: Basically you're right, but even post-'88 he's been more clever than resonant. May I add: Jonathan Richman, forever in pursuit of his own muse. ...and: Bob Mould, Kristin Hersh-- mid-80's (REM contemporary) contenders now recording for Ryko with a lot more dignity than many of their peers still stalking mainstream success (Electrafixion, Love Spit Love, Morrissey, and, perhaps most painfully, Peter Holsapple-- the "5th Hootie").... To Whom Etc.: The first stanza of "I'm Straight". ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: When I was Dead [Gear Question] You guys know your guitars...but...any idea what kind of keyboard/voice they use for the intro to When I Was Dead...think that it sounds just hideous and great. I'd like to duplicate it if I could... Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 09:46:50 -0500 From: Outdoor Miner Subject: Re: Rex tackles the Difficult Subjects. At 02:48 AM 10/5/96 -0400, RxBroome@aol.com wrote: >My take (BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CARE!!!) >Bowie: Basically you're right, but even post-'88 he's been more clever than >resonant. Perhaps, but I liked Tin Machine way more than most other human beings, and thoroughly enjoyed _Black Tie, White Noise_ and _Outside_ as well. Now, it's not the Berlin trilogy, but it's still good stuff. >Bob Mould, Kristin Hersh-- mid-80's (REM contemporary) contenders now >recording for Ryko with a lot more dignity than many of their peers still >stalking mainstream success (Electrafixion, Love Spit Love, Morrissey, and, >perhaps most painfully, Peter Holsapple-- the "5th Hootie").... Peter's got a new solo album coming out; advance buzz is good. I have no problem with Love Spit Love, though their album did make me wonder why Richard Butler didn't just keep the PsyFurs name, since it wasn't all that different from _World Outside_. But Electrafixion, whoo boy, they were my biggest disappointment of 1995. Even though Will is playing better than ever, the whole friggin' album was Johnny-One-Note loud-loUD-LOUD, and they forgot to write any songs. My wife talked me into going to see them here in Nah-ville at a show that was added at the last minute and cost only $5. There were positively 27 believers there (I counted), and they STILL bit the big one, even on the bloated 23-minute version of "Do It Clean" (the only Bunnymen song they played) that closed the show. It was almost enough to make me forget why I ever liked them Bunnymen in the first place. Later, Miles ===================================================================== I shift the blame to the worm in the bottle I shift the blame to anyone standing before me -- Wire, "Silk Skin Paws" Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ------------------------------ From: "A. David Wright" Subject: shortest distance between Boston and Northampton is... Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:01:30 -0600 I currently live in Utah, and I knew that to see Robyn this year, I was going to have to do a little traveling, but I'm just amazed as to how well everything has worked out. I was planning on going to Boston this fall to check out some potential jobs and/or schools for a possible future move. When I heard the Boston date, I started checking everything else out, and realized that the optimal time for everything else that I had to do in Boston was the same week. Now I'm really comitted to going, because I just called and got 3rd row center seats for the show! I just wanted to share my excitement with all of you, and politely ask to be included in any discussions of pre/post show get-togethers. Who on the list is from Boston anyway? It'd be nice to place faces to names eventually, especially those in my future home. Another question: Can somebody tell me how far away Northampton is from Boston. If it's not too far, (within train distance, I guess) and the show is rescheduled near the same time, I might be able to schedule the trip to coincide with two Robyn shows! -David (who can't seem to get Lady Waters out of his head today for some reason) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:27:08 -0500 From: Brett Lanier Subject: poor man's Hitchcock >II: Les Claypool >Me: ">In the other LA alt.weekly, which shall remain nameless, I saw the >following > >>perplexing statement in a Les Claypool review: > >>"Les Claypool is the poor man's Robyn Hitchcock, the Frank Zappa of the > >>bass..." > >>...and I thought WHA?!? I fail to see the validity of the first statement; > >>it similarly eludes me how the latter could be a good thing." > > >Miles:" >While I don't see the Robyn thing, my first reaction to Primus was, >verbatim, > >"they combine the most annoying tendencies of both Rush and Zappa."" > >Well said! At least they had enough self-knowledge to adopt the too-true >catch-phrase "Primus sucks". I personally am hard-pressed to think of any >aspects of either Rush or Zappa that don't qualify as "annoying"... > >Truman: " >This is awfully bizarre. The first statement is kind of a >non-sequiter, > >and the second could be either a slam or compliment- without knowing the > >reviewer's feelings on Frank Zappa this is sort of difficult to gauge. Of > >course, it doesn't sound like a compliment to me, but I loathe Zappa, > >so....." > >Right-on comme d'habitude, darling. I think both were meant as compliments, >but how it all fits together escapes me, and I actually waded through the >whole goddam thing, trying to figure it out. Clearly, the journalist was a >moron. Uh, the comparison of Hitchcock and Claypool is tenuous at best, but it seems that it's being dismissed out of hand, just out of taste in music. Concentrate on the words "poor man's." I saw a couple of French words floating around, hinting that someone may be a bit too highbrow for Primus. The comparison probably stems from Claypool's fetish for sticking lyrics about fishing and the sea in every other one of his songs. Hitchcock is unfairly known for being that guy who writes songs about fish. It's probably as simple as that. However lame that may be, I doubt whether that alone would make the reviewer a moron. Most people have no idea who Hitchcock is, and to the reviewer, it must have seemed like a great throwaway line to confound his readers. (Most people love having one up on everyone else in the intelligence department.) I hate Rush myself. Geddy Lee's voice grates on my nerves, Neil Pert's lyrics are lost on me, and the music simply doesn't move ME. Used to listen to Primus for entertainment, but got bored with the newer releases very, very quickly. Don't find Zappa's music that accessable, but love the sarcasm. Unfortunately, many of my acquaintances find Hitchcock "annoying" or that he "sucks," and I have to hear that a lot. Please don't be meanspirited or angry with me. I know that the level of intelligence really is a shade higher on this list, because it's rare for me to hear someone refer to Pynchon, but it's still "annoying" to read people being called morons. (And if that doesn't get me flamed, Fegmania is probably my least favorite album. Heh.)(As for artist longevity, uh, Peter Hammill... (I'm trying to get killed.)) Brett ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:18:21 -0500 From: "T.L.R. III" Subject: questions about glenside--help! well, scott and woj were kind enough to let me know where glenside is. now that tickets are going on sale, i'm wondering: 1. how can an out-of-towner get tix? 2. how much are they? (like it matters) 3. can anyone give general directions coming from state college (centre county) pa? (i know K said s/he could probably do this--could you, K?) if my ride (a recent convert) can get off work, i'll be going, and it would be cool to meet some fellow fegs there. this will be my first time seeing robyn live! thus, anyone who could help out w/the above info would obviously be greatly thanked by me. . . . . . tom * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * "questions are a burden for others. addresses: * * answers are a prison for oneself." small documents: tlr121@psuvm.psu.edu * * --village sign large documents: tom@tlr121.rh.psu.edu* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ From: "A. David Wright" Subject: shortest distance between Boston and Northampton is... Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 08:28:08 -0600 I currently live in Utah, and I knew that to see Robyn this year, I was going to have to do a little traveling, but I'm just amazed as to how well everything has worked out. I was planning on going to Boston this fall to check out some potential jobs and/or schools for a possible future move. When I heard the Boston date, I started checking everything else out, and realized that the optimal time for everything else that I had to do in Boston was the same week. Now I'm really comitted to going, because I just called and got 3rd row center seats for the show! I just wanted to share my excitement with all of you, and politely ask to be included in any discussions of pre/post show get-togethers. Who on the list is from Boston anyway? It'd be nice to place faces to names eventually, especially those in my future home. Another question: Can somebody tell me how far away Northampton is from Boston. If it's not too far, (within train distance, I guess) and the show is rescheduled near the same time, I might be able to schedule the trip to coincide with two Robyn shows! -David (who can't seem to get Lady Waters out of his head today for some reason) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:49:57 -0400 From: sister ernestine Subject: Re: glassfleshweb also sprach Bayard : >Glass Flesh musicians: send woj (woj@remus.rutgers.edu) pictures and text >to go on the glass flesh web page. since i don't use a mime-enabled mailer and it's a pain to deal with encoded files, anybody who needs to send me stuff can upload it to ftp.ecto.org/pub/lists/fegmaniax/uploads and then let me know that it's there. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 16:47:38 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: RE: life- bush of ghosts (little RH content) (I know you were talking about this about a month ago, but I just now got around to reading my mail. And what is time?) Yes, yes-- this is a WONDERFUL book, and certainly one of the most trippy things I have ever seen. I read it about twice a year, and it's like reading a whole different book every time. I wonder if Robyn has ever read it? (there's my token RH content!!) It's full of this abstract and fantastical imagery, and lots and lots of bizarre tales. Good reading for fegs. The author is: Amos Tutuola The book is: My Life in the Bush of Ghosts or, he has another book called The Palm Wine Drinkard (that's the one I like) lj (girl with 720 messages in her mailbox) ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 03:18:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Robyn in Germany James Isaacs wrote: > And, I like Herb Alpert, too. It brings back memories of my childhood, > when my father had the Whipped Cream album. > James Hey, my Dad had that album two. Wow, does that bring back memories. I have to say I am also fond of that album, too, and for the same reason - it reminds me of my childhood. Very cool that someone else can relate to this in the same way as I do. I wonder if there is any connection between Robyn and Herp Albert. Maybe he at one time has played with someone who also played in the Tijuana Brass? Probably not but, who knows - stranger things have happened... -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 03:44:40 -0400 Subject: Re: A man, a woman and a guitar E.B. wrote: > >From: Truman Peyote > >Subject: Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs > > > >I must add something here, though. I once had a short-lived fling with a > >fanatical purist blues guitarist who actually did have romantic feelings > >towards his guitar. I'd rather not get into how this played out in terms > >of our sex life, but it > >was pretty damn weird even for me, and I'm not easily shocked as far as > >these things go :). > > Oh, come on, Susan, SPILL!!! > PS Did I read someone saying that Bryan Ferry's work is still good?? I don't know if I would call it good but I still like his stuff. Just not quite up to the level of some of his earlier work. As far as Susan's weird relationship I once had a relationship with a woman who decided things were getting too intense emotionally and that it conflicted with her feelings for her horse - that's right her horse!!! Now that was something I had a little trouble understanding - people are weird. -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 03:11:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Screaming Blue Messiahs HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com wrote: > If you're surprised I can like RH and Primus, I'm surprised that there > are any Prince fans on the list. But then, I also have a very large > soft spot for Herb Alpert. (no shit) Yes indeed, I am one of those Prince fans who gets every new release. I am seldom disappointed although at times I have not exactly been overwhelmed by some of his stuff - particularly from 1990-1994. I also like Primus -I have their first two releases. I am also a great admirer of Frank Zappa's work (sorry Susan our opinions differ). And some of Brian Wilson's work I find to be truly awesome. Varied people - varied tastes. But I have to say that Robyn leaves them all far behind. His music touches me on so many levels and with every new release he continues to do so. Robyn is the man! -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 03:56:25 -0400 Subject: Re: MIX article > Russ Reynolds wrote: > The spankin' new (October) issue of MIX has an "in the studio" feature with > Robyn Hitchcock. If there's any interest at all, I'll post it > some time next week. If there's no response I'll assume you're all going to > buy your own copy or you don't care. Yes please - post it. I am interested in seeing anything written about RH. I do care. Thank you. -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 03:59:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Statues in love, Freezing Blue Messiahs > Aaron J. Sparrow wrote: > Also, there's a GREAT Hank Williams song, 'Kawliga', about a statue of a Native > American (Okay, so he sings "a wooden Injun") who falls in love with > another statue in the same antique store. But it's more of a > metaphor for being too shy and missing out on love. I know this is not really Robyn related but I was wondering if you have ever heard The Residents' recording of 'Kawliga'. Strange, fascinating and wonderfully creative. Just curios... -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:00:54 -0400 Subject: Re: glenoceanside > sister ernestine wrote: > > what's the keswick box office's phone number? i want to add it to the > web page. The number is 215-572-7650. The office hours are normally 10-5 Monday through Saturday unless they happen to have a show the same night in which case they sometimes stay open later. Hope to see a few of you there. -Ner ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 04:17:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Ohhhhhhhhhh really?(non-Robyn content) Ryan Godfrey wrote: > Allenthequail says: > > >I will try not to > >embarrass myself by saying anything along the order of "Hey - did you > >know that Pink Floyd's _Wish You Were Here_ is about Syd Barrett," etc. > > An interesting theory... > > Seriously, while that might be what Roger and the gang wrote the song > about, it's not a particularly scintillating explanation for what's > going on in a nifty little song. Um, I'm going to stick my neck out here - maybe Allanthequail was referring to the album and not the song. The song on 'Wish You Were Here' which is most directly referring to Syd Barrett is 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond'. I know this because I saw Pink Flyd perform at the Spectrum in Philadelphia on June 12th, 1975. At the end of 1974 and earlier in 1975 they had been doing the 'Dark Side of the Moon' tour. This tour in June was kind of in between 'Dark Side of the Moon' and 'Wish You Were Here' which was release in the fall of 1975. In any case they were played, if memory serves, three new songs which ended up on 'Wish You Were Here'. One was 'Welcome to the Machine' I can't remember the other but the third was 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' and when Roger Waters introduced the song he made several references about the song being about Syd. An interesting aside: I still have my program from the show which contains lyrics for some of the new material they were performing. One of the songs was actually a very early incarnation of 'Dogs' form the 'Animals' album. The live song I heard and the accompanying lyrics changed a great deal by the time 'Animals' came out. Anyway that's all. Apologies for the length of this non-Robyn message. -Ner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .