From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #198 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 198 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Tours; Guitars, cadillacs RE: Chrissie and Cutler's (No Robyn content) Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs I found something cool! The Statue and the Bust Re: breaking out Re: glenoceanside Screaming Blue Messiahs Trilobite Dwight Maxwell's BOSTON SHOW! Hello from a happy Quail Jasper, This One's Evil Breakthrough in Toast Physics Re: Funky Gabriel Re: Statues in love, Freezing Blue Messiahs Re: BOSTON SHOW! MIX article Re: MIX article Robyn in Germany hang the dj ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:19:51 -0400 Subject: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs The Billy / Robyn ad disappeared from this week's LA Weekly. So I called the El Rey. They said that the show was STILL GOOD for November 10 and wondered why I thought otherwise. I refrained from telling them that I was wunnadoseinnernetfreaks... Still, have any of the other dates been moved into November? I don't see how this is gonna work... In the other LA alt.weekly, which shall remain nameless, I saw the following perplexing statement in a Les Claypool review: "Les Claypool is the poor man's Robyn Hitchcock, the Frank Zappa of the bass..." ...and I thought WHA?!? I fail to see the validity of the first statement; it similarly eludes me how the latter could be a good thing. Guitarshit cont'd: " big retro-lookin' semi-hollows-- Rickies, Gretsches and Gibson 335's, >y'know." > Actually, babe, I've always kinda identified those with 50s artists. Ya know, like 'Duane Eddy and His Twangy Guitar" :)." First,Rickies are pure '60's. Second, the '50's - '60's discrepancy in my initial post. A few people have mentioned this. It's not MY confusion, but my Gen-X peers'. I was kind of making fun of lame, hipster musicians my own age for not being able to distinguish between yer various retro looks. Retro is retro to most of us young'uns, or so it seems. But I'm not fooled! (Oddly, those semi-hollow BASSES really ARE '60's things, and THEY haven't come back nearly as much. What gives? I think Chris Hillman played a Gibson semi-hollow deal with the Byrds, and that's a bass sound that's NEVER been duplicated, IMHO.) "Me:(feel uncomfortable with an instrument that has historically >served as a penis extension). Truman: Then perhaps you should eschew electric guitar, altogether :)." Ouch. How DO you feel about Bentley, really, dear :)? (Insert your own innuendo here-- at your own risk) Yah wlll... here I fall prey to a little genre-hugging myself. If I found a great sounding guitar that was shaped like a meat cleaver and bedecked with tiger stripes, I would have to give it a miss. My kids are curvy and femme-y looking. They sound pretty. They don't make me (or hopefully anyone else) think about my johnson overmuch, and I'm not prone to licking them. I'll keep 'em. Fake '60's CD packaging: The "LOUNGE EXPLOSION" (urk) has blown this wide open to the point where, when FUCKING WHITE ZOMBIE does it, I never should've brought it up. Sorry. But I forgot to mention the other Superdrag/Bluetones parallel, which is that both records start off with songs that have as their chord signature "D->Dmaj7", which naturally brings us back to "Queen Elvis". Fake stylus drops: this has been done a lot, starting, I think, with Techno records some years back-- appropriately, I think, for an idea that's postmodern to the hilt. I'm still waiting for someone to do an entire CD with pops-and crackles, perhaps even skips, flown in throughout the whole damned record. Or a reissue digitally-remastered from a played-out piece of used vinyl ("Blonde on Blonde", PLEASE). Too artsy a concept to ever happen? I think it's just around the postmodern corner. Rex PS-- Lovesick? Yeah, what about it? ------------------------------ From: "Baker, David(PIN-C09)" "sdodge@inforel.com" Subject: RE: Chrissie and Cutler's (No Robyn content) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:26:54 -0400 >Susan wrote: >| May I also add that I love Chrissie Hynde? >| This is a woman who was engaged to Johnny Rotten and later married Ray >| Davies. I've always wanted to meet her, because this only proves to me >| (along with her songwriting for the Pretenders, who were IMHO excellent) >| that she must be a fascinating individual. >Whoa. I've never heard the Johnny Rotten story, but I *do* know that she >definitely had a child with Ray Davies. However, I don't believe they ever >married? I could be wrong, though. Chrissie was later married to Jim Kerr >of Simple Minds: a liaison which didn't last long but produced another kid. > Doesn't surprise me, 'cause I can't imagine anyone *wanting* to be married >to Kerr. (My apologies to you Kerr fans out there!) Sorry if I'm two weeks late in responding to this. I think the story behind Chrissie Hynde's engagement to Johnny Rotten is not actually a romantic one but a proposed 'marriage of convenience'. If my trivia memory serves me correctly, Chrissie Hynde was trying to get into the country and the only way she could do was to marry someone from England. I think Sid Vicious actually volunteered to do the job but didn't turn up on the proposed day (unreliable chaps these Sex Pistols) so Johnny Rotten was going to do it. I think the whole idea just fizzled in the end though. But certainly, Chrissie Hynde seems to have a bit of a 'groupie' streak in her when it comes to her choice of partners. Ray Davies may be one of the worlds greatest songwriters but i don't know if their time together was exactly fun-filled. It all sounded pretty violent and Chrissie got stuck in the middle of the Ray Davies- Dave Davies feuding. One time in particular, Ray invited her on stage at a Kinks concert and as she was walking on Dave punched her out and told her never to come on the Kinks stage. All good fun..... Apparently, Chrissie met Jim Kerr after being blown away by a Simple Minds concert and going backstage afterwards to meet the band. They were married not long after (and divorced not long after that). This was within a year of her leaving Ray (whom she did not marry). Obviously, if you like the band, marriage is the next obvious step! Anyway, I've said enough gossip here to put Melrose Place to shame. Dave. PS I'm probably being a bit condescending here but I should note that I think the first Pretenders album is brilliant. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 22:43:32 -0500 From: "Turbogeek, Baby" Subject: Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs Speakin' of rockin' Nashville things (I'm hoping the header was a Yoakum reference), long-time local wonders Jason & the Scorchers and more recent Nah-ville faves BR5-49 (remember Junior Samples' used-car lot phone number? Of course you do, you're just repressing it) both have great new albums out. I'm also seeing both kick off 1996-97 tours this weekend. For the uninitiated, Jason & Co. fire up old-time shit-kicking hard-drinking morning-after-repenting hellhound-on-my-trial country with a stiff dose of punk/rockabilly energy; BR5-49 subtract the punk. Both are way more country than any of them three-named hat acts in this here town, and if you're not allergic to country (and if you're judging by what's been on the radio the last ten years, you haven't heard REAL country music, young whippersnapper!), I highly recommend both of 'em. >In the other LA alt.weekly, which shall remain nameless, I saw the following >perplexing statement in a Les Claypool review: >"Les Claypool is the poor man's Robyn Hitchcock, the Frank Zappa of the >bass..." >...and I thought WHA?!? I fail to see the validity of the first statement; >it similarly eludes me how the latter could be a good thing. While I don't see the Robyn thing, my first reaction to Primus was, verbatim, "they combine the most annoying tendencies of both Rush and Zappa." Later, Miles, who wonders if Richard Thompson and Robyn Hitchcock are both on the "play Nashville every five years" schedule... ===================================================================== My Album of the Year, 1991-95 1991: Nirvana, Nevermind 1992: JudyBats, Down in the Shacks Where the Satellite Dishes Grow 1993: Midnight Oil, Earth & Sun & Moon 1994: JudyBats, Full-Empty 1995: Julian Cope, 20 Mothers Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:32:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Truman Peyote Subject: Re: Tours; Guitars, cadillacs On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 RxBroome@aol.com wrote: > In the other LA alt.weekly, which shall remain nameless, I saw the following > perplexing statement in a Les Claypool review: > "Les Claypool is the poor man's Robyn Hitchcock, the Frank Zappa of the > bass..." > ...and I thought WHA?!? I fail to see the validity of the first statement; > it similarly eludes me how the latter could be a good thing. This is awfully bizarre. The first statement is kind of a non-sequiter, and the second could be either a slam or compliment- without knowing the reviewer's feelings on Frank Zappa this is sort of difficult to gauge. Of course, it doesn't sound like a compliment to me, but I loathe Zappa, so..... > Guitarshit cont'd: > > " big retro-lookin' semi-hollows-- Rickies, Gretsches and Gibson 335's, > >y'know." > Actually, babe, I've always kinda identified those with 50s artists. Ya > know, like 'Duane Eddy and His Twangy Guitar" :)." > > First,Rickies are pure '60's. Yerse, I know this. I was referring to big and semi-hollow axes in general, not to Ricks in particular. Just so everyone knows :). > Second, the '50's - '60's discrepancy in my initial post. A few people have > mentioned this. It's not MY confusion, but my Gen-X peers'. I was kind of > making fun of lame, hipster musicians my own age for not being able to > distinguish between yer various retro looks. Retro is retro to most of us > young'uns, or so it seems. But I'm not fooled! Of course not. You ARE a sharp one and no mistake :) :). Rex goes on to add: > "Me:(feel uncomfortable with an instrument that has historically > >served as a penis extension). > > Truman: Then perhaps you should eschew electric guitar, altogether :)." > > Ouch. How DO you feel about Bentley, really, dear :)? (Insert your own > innuendo here-- at your own risk) Bentley is more like my child than anything. Do not accuse me of child molestation, I will NOT have it :). I must add something here, though. I once had a short-lived fling with a fanatical purist blues guitarist who actually did have romantic feelings towards his guitar (I asked him once how long his longest romantic relationship had lasted, and he looked at me and said "I've been with my guitar for 6 years". I'm terribly afraid he was only half joking). I'd rather not get into how this played out in terms of our sex life, but it was pretty damn weird even for me, and I'm not easily shocked as far as these things go :). > tiger stripes, I would have to give it a miss. My kids are curvy and femme-y > looking. They sound pretty. They don't make me (or hopefully anyone else) > think about my johnson overmuch, and I'm not prone to licking them. I'll > keep 'em. Hmmmmm.......... I tend to prefer the more streamlined variety. I wonder what Freud would have to say about this whole conversation. The obvious conclusion (on his part) would be that I long to usurp male power, and not being able to grow my own phallus, decided to buy one that looks like a Telecaster. Or something like that :). I don't know what he'd say about your "curvy and femme-y" little numbers, Rex- perhaps that you are repressing a desire to copulate with them? :) :) > postmodern to the hilt. I'm still waiting for someone to do an entire CD > with pops-and crackles, perhaps even skips, flown in throughout the whole > damned record. You could call it "Vinyl Machine Music" :). > PS-- Lovesick? Yeah, what about it? Well, what about it, indeed? It's reciprocated in full, with interest :). Susan P.S. Quote of the day (for me)- "I gotta funny feeling they got plastic in the afterlife"- Beck, "Cyanide Breath Mint" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 0:29:43 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: I found something cool! What do you guys make of this? I found it in Edmund Wilson's "Memoirs of Hecate County". "'Now listen, my dear,'--I moved--'we mustn't go on like this. It's immoral to want to be lovers and to go on wanting and not being. We're getting to be like that Browining poem about the Statue and the Bust'. 'Yes, I know,' she said--she was troubled and looked away. I followed up by quoting: 'The sin I impute to each frustrate ghost/Is the unlit lamp and the ungirt loin.'" Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Could this Browning poem possibly be the inspiration for "Underwater Moonlight"? Is anyone familiar enough with Browning or this poem specifically to comment? I'm dying of curiosity!!!! Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 01:09:05 -0500 From: I Prefer Janitor in a Drum Subject: The Statue and the Bust At 12:29 AM 10/4/96 -0500, Truman Peyote wrote: > >What do you guys make of this? I found it in Edmund Wilson's "Memoirs of >Hecate County". > >"'Now listen, my dear,'--I moved--'we mustn't go on like this. It's immoral to >want to be lovers and to go on wanting and not being. We're getting to be like >that Browining poem about the Statue and the Bust'. 'Yes, I know,' she >said--she was troubled and looked away. I followed up by quoting: 'The sin I >impute to each frustrate ghost/Is the unlit lamp and the ungirt loin.'" > >Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Could this Browning poem possibly be the >inspiration for "Underwater Moonlight"? Is anyone familiar enough with >Browning or this poem specifically to comment? I'm dying of curiosity!!!! Have I thought about "The Statue and the Bust" in connection with "Underwater Moonlight" (and for that matter, R.E.M.'s akin "Belong")? Sure. But "The Statue and the Bust" is in some ways the diametrical opposite of "Underwater Moonlight." In Robyn's song, statues come alive and taste the freedom of the earth, sea, and sky, even if just for a few moments. In Browning's poem, would-be lovers "virtuously" fail to act upon their feelings. When the town posthumously erects a statue of the man in the square looking toward the bust of the woman on her former balcony, you expect Browning to wrap up the poem with some kind of endorsement of the selflessness of the late pair. Instead, Browning lambastes them for their failure to seize the moment and live life to the fullest. I'd give you some quotes, but my wife is asleep in the other room where the literature shelves are. I'll expand on this tomorrow. Later, Miles ===================================================================== I shift the blame to the worm in the bottle I shift the blame to anyone standing before me -- Wire, "Silk Skin Paws" Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 01:28:18 -0500 From: I Prefer Janitor in a Drum Subject: Re: breaking out First, Marcy Tanter wrote: >> >> You know, I hope Robyn doesn't find huge commercial success. It seems that >> when people are huge successes, it changes their music and/or ruins their >> careers. >> Hell, look at what's happened to Prince!! :-) Since by most accounts Prince continued to make good music through _Sign of the Times_ (1987), and since _Prince_ (1979) had a hit single, _Controversy_ (1981) went gold, and _1999_ (late '82) went gold then platinum and had three hit singles, it's hard for me to see where success did him in, as he was already successful when he produced _Purple Rain_ (1984) and made three good albums immediately after it. Prince's malaise seems to have more to do with the usual mid- career "who am I? what do I do next?" crisis than with sales ruining anything. Then Ner sez: >Hunh??? I disagree with that Prince comment. Besides there has been no >Prince for a few years now. I refer to him as Symbol Guy since I don't >know how to pronounce that symbol he uses. While I think his work has >been somewhat uneven since 1990 or so I really like the last couple of >things he released. I think 'The Gold Experience' is the best thing he's >done since 'Sign O The Times' and his latest, 'Chaos and Disorder', is >another really good release. Maybe you haven't heard his recent stuff? >If you have - oh well - we disagree. If you haven't you should give it a >try - particularly 'The Gold Experience'. Well, my take is that he did three pretty good ones in a row (the symbol album, _Come_, and _The Gold Experience_) and that _Chaos and Disorder_ is a grave setback, easily his worst since, oh, _Diamonds and Pearls_. But that's just lil' ol' me, of course. >Huge success has frequently IMHO changed many artists and the calibre of >their music has suffered but I also think there are many exceptions. I >look at Neil Young and Peter Gabriel as two of these exceptions. Can >anyone else name others? I'll take those two, plus: Bryan Ferry (though he's never been big in the U.S.) R.E.M. (not to stir up THAT again) David Bowie (for most of his career, 1985-88 excepted) Probably think of a few others if it wasn't so late. I don't think success would necessarily change Uncle Bobby, but it would change his fandom. Given that many folks here think that the mostly-fine A&M catalog suffered from major- label-itis and Robyn sold, what, about ten records each on those instead of the usual five, I daresay there'd be a hue and cry of "sellout" once "Sinister" hit #1, ya'know... Later, Miles ===================================================================== I shift the blame to the worm in the bottle I shift the blame to anyone standing before me -- Wire, "Silk Skin Paws" Miles Goosens goosenmk@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ===================================================================== ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 05:26:16 -0400 Subject: Re: glenoceanside LORDK@library.phila.gov wrote: > Anyway--I plan to go to the Keswick show. > Its a small theatre. > Assuming Im not isntitunalized by then, anyone want to meet for drinks first. I just called the Keswick today and they confirmed that tickets will be going on sale Friday, October 11th. Their box office opens at 10 a.m. I know several people who are going including Mark Allen. I think several of these people would be interested in getting together for a drink before the show. What time? Where? I'm coming from Center City but several of my friends who are going live in the Jenkintown area which is very close to the Keswick. Let me know where your preferences lie. Anyone else interested??? -Ner ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 12:41:27 +0100 Subject: Screaming Blue Messiahs Item Subject: cc:Mail Text feg greets one and all, In an earlier post I mentioned "Eaten By Her Own Dinner" as containing two members of the Screaming Blue Messiahs. It struck me as strange that Bill Carter and Chris Thomson should get the gig without Kenny Harris. I now realise why. EBHOD is from 1981 and the earliest SBM release I can find in my collection is from 1985. In 1981 BC and CT were in a band called Motor Boys Motor, and the drummer was John Kingham. He is also the guy who plays drums on EBHOD. So RH was actually backed by Andy M. and MBM without their frontman. (I slept easier last night.) On another point, namely the comparison with RH and Les Claypool, I'm not sure I completely disagree with the original quote. I happen to like Primus (I'm a bass player) and I can appreciate that the two both have a sense of the ridiculous although I do also appreciate that RH is a lot less gratuitous and frivolous (usually). If you're surprised I can like RH and Primus, I'm surprised that there are any Prince fans on the list. But then, I also have a very large soft spot for Herb Alpert. (no shit) Hamish (last post for two weeks due to new baby) Now Playing - Scat Opera "Four Gone Confusion" ------------------------------ From: Peter William De Bonte Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:47:31 -0400 Subject: Trilobite Dwight Hi. Robyn was playing a song probably titled something like this about how people tend to give names to things they know nothing about (well, that's a paraphrase I think...) at concerts last winter so I expected it to be on the copy of Moss Elixer but it's apparently not Hileotrope or any other track on the album unles I've really forgotten how it sounds. So anyhow, does anyone know if this song is on Mossy Liquer or any other recorded format? If not, does someone have a recording of it? I really would like to hear it again and don't have much occation to go to concerts :( Thanks! -Pete ------ Peter W. De Bonte pwd@kirchoff.wpi.edu Electrical Engineering & Music Major http://www.wpi.edu/~pwd [Make a living & Have a life] Worcester Polytechnic Institute, MA ------------------------------ From: "Farber, Craig" Subject: Maxwell's Date: Fri, 04 Oct 96 10:35:00 edt Does anyone know what happened to the Maxwell's date (Hoboken)? --Craig Farber (old list member, new e-mail address) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:27:49 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: BOSTON SHOW! FYI, the orpheum says that tix for the 11/16 show will go on sale tommorrow (10/5) at ten. KEN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:38:13 -0400 Subject: Hello from a happy Quail From: Hello, fellow friends and demented feg-types. I just thought I might as well introduce myself. My name is Allen Ruch, and I have recently just subscibed to this list (finally!) beacuse I happily know have an e-mail program that can stain each mailing list with an indelible color and even drip it in little bins for me, finally giving me the happy technology to subscribe to several lists without fear of going bonkers. I've been a fan of Robyn since around the time of Trains/Fegmania, which oddly enough correlates to my first year of college . . . funny how you don't seem to find this kind of music in the depths of high school. Well, anyway, I am a high school chemistry teacher now myself, so I feel it is my sworn duty to secretly select intersting students and quietly expose them to Robyn. (A grand strategy, whole not quite as sinister as the Freemasons' plans, and successful in varying degrees, it usually starts with "So you like REM eh? Did you know that Buck and Stipe . . ."etc. Yes - I am what Dole fears about American Education) I generally see Robyn everytime he comes within a few states of my homeland of Pennsylvania, and my CD collection is more or less extensive, and I can knock out a few tunes on guitar if the stars are right. Therefore I would be very intersted in being part of any taping trees, Tab/chord exchanges, and all that kind of stuff. I've skimmed the archives and lurked around for about a week, so I will try not to embarrass myself by saying anything along the order of "Hey - did you know that Pink Floyd's _Wish You Were Here_ is about Syd Barrett," etc. Anyway, good to meet all of you, and I'm looking forward to connecting with actual real Robyn fans, of which Harrisburg is somewhat at a loss. . . . Thanks again, Allen "The Great Quail" ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail | TheQuail@cthulhu.microserve.com Keeper of the Libyrinth | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail riverrun Discordian Society | | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 12:31:47 -0400 From: Victor Triola Subject: Jasper, This One's Evil Wait a minute! I thought the line from "Heliotrope" was "She worships her bum." My weekend is ruined. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:35:53 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Breakthrough in Toast Physics Bonjour Tracy Avez-vous vu le 'Telegraph electrique' pour ce matin? / Vous serez tres intriguee, je pense... - Mike Godwin PS Don't read about the inflatable doll... DATE=04/October/1996 Science writer is the toast of spoof Nobels By Roger Highfield, Science Editor A STUDY of the physics of tumbling toast earned Robert Matthews, the Sunday Telegraph journalist and Aston University visiting fellow, one of the annual spoof Nobel prizes yesterday. The award may anger John Major's science adviser, Sir Robert May, who complained recently that the "Ig Nobel" ceremony brought science into disrepute after another British prize winner was pilloried by the press last year. Last night's Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony at Harvard University's Sanders Theatre honoured individuals whose achievements "cannot or should not be reproduced". The awards included: Physics - Robert Matthews for his studies of Murphy's Law, and especially for demonstrating that toast always falls on the buttered side, published in the European Journal of Physics. Mr Matthews carried out the research "when there was nothing worth watching on television" and added that he had not received funding from the taxpayer. Biology - A team from the University of Bergen, Norway, for Effect of Ale, Garlic and Soured Cream on the Appetite of Leeches, published in the British Medical Journal. Medicine - Three tobacco company employees "for their unshakable discovery that nicotine is not addictive". Peace - Jacques Chirac, President of France, "for commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hiroshima with atomic bomb tests in the Pacific". Public Health - Ellen Kleist, of Greenland, and Harald Moi, of Norway, for their report, Transmission of Gonorrhea Through an Inflatable Doll, published in Genitourinary Medicine. Chemistry - George Goble, of Purdue University, for his world record time for igniting a barbecue grill in three seconds, using charcoal and liquid oxygen. Literature - The editors of Social Text for the paper Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity, which "they could not understand, that the author said was meaningless, and which claimed that reality does not exist". Art - Don Featherstone of Fitchburg, Massachusetts, for his ornamentally evolutionary invention, the plastic pink flamingo. Copyright Telegraph Group Limited 1996. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:46:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Funky Gabriel On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, James Dignan wrote: > >It's "Jeux Sans Frontieres" (Games Without Frontiers :)), which is actually > >the title of a French children's TV show where children from different > >countries, uh, play games together (I think there may be a British edition > >of this show as well, if I'm not mistaken). The show is vastly less > >interesting than the song its title inspired. > > It's not children - it's teams of adults who play weird and wonderful > sports concocted mainly for the benefit of the audience watching them make > idiots of themselves. Teams arte organised on a town vs town basis, and > there is a national competition between about a dozen towns every year. The > British version - also a line from Gabriel's song - is "It's a Knockout". > Jeux Sans Frontieres is not only the French version, but the international > version, competed for by the winning towns in about a dozen European > countries. I've no idea whether this stupid TV programme still exists, but > I used to *love* it as a kid back in the 1970s. Here in NZ they tried a > similar thing called "Top Town", which ran for a number of years. I know I'm terribly late, but I still want to add my bit to that thread: AFAIK the show doesn't exist anymore anywhere, but we used to have it in Germany, too. It was called "Spiel ohne Grenzen". I loved it! The national qualification rounds were on Saturday afternoons, so I was usually able to watch them. The international tournament, however, used to take place Wednesday nights at 8 pm. I'm not sure how old I was, but I always had to beg to be allowed to stay up that long... I was heartbroken when they cancelled that show. There are similar shows on TV now, but somehow I don't enjoy them anymore :-) The things you lose when you grow up... I'll ask Robyn on Tuesday if he used to watch it too (yes, I managed to bring Robyn in!!) Cheers, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn "I am unable, yonder beggar cries, To stand or move. If it be true, he lies!" Cologne University, Germany E-Mail: Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de WWW: http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:36:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Statues in love, Freezing Blue Messiahs Susan wrote: > that Browining poem about the Statue and the Bust'. > ... > Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Could this Browning poem > possibly be the inspiration for "Underwater Moonlight"? Is anyone > familiar enough with Browning or this poem specifically to comment? > I'm dying of curiosity!!!! Don't know anything about it, but the theme appears to be fairly common in both literature and music. Someone transcribed a quote a few months back from a book or short story (I think?) that sounded even closer to the Underwater Moonlight scenario. Also, there's a GREAT Hank Williams song, 'Kawliga', about a statue of a Native American (Okay, so he sings "a wooden Injun") who falls in love with another statue in the same antique store. But it's more of a metaphor for being too shy and missing out on love. Hamish, if you're still here: 1) Congratulations on the forthcoming addition to your family. 2) I listened to Gun-Shy this morning and came up with about 5 possibilities for the song that Freeze reminded you of. The Messiahs are big fans of that drum rhythm. But Freeze is a lot slower than any of the songs on Gun-Shy. Also, as per the Hitchcock/Messiahs link, Pat Collier co-produced Wild Blue Yonder. Did he produce Eaten By Her Own Dinner? Aaron J. Sparrow Research Assistant Population Studies Center The Urban Institute 2100 M Street, NW Washington, DC 20037 (202) 857-8510 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:57:53 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: Re: BOSTON SHOW! >On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Ken Ostrander wrote: > >> FYI, >> >> the orpheum says that tix for the 11/16 show will go on sale >> tommorrow (10/5) at ten. > >Hi Ken. DO you know who handles tix for the Orpheum? >Thanks, >K THE TIX ARE BEING SOLD THROUGH NEXT TICKET SALES. THEIR WEB SITE IS: Three easy ways to buy your Next Ticket Dial 423-NEXT NEXT recommends this method. Use your touchtone Telephone to purchase concert tickets 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. NEXT's Interactive Telephone System is the fastest, most convenient way to purchase tickets quickly and easily using your touch tone telephone. How to use the NEXT system Dial 423-6000 A NEXT sales representative is available to accept your order during operating hours NEXT Outlets Select Newbury Comics Newbury Street Burlington Braintree Saugus Shrewsbury Nashua, NH Warwick, RI Select Strawberries Framingham and the respective venue box offices during operating hours. Orpheum Theatre Great Woods (In season) Harborlights (In season - days of performance only) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 96 15:11:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: MIX article The spankin' new (October) issue of MIX has an "in the studio" feature with Robyn Hitchcock. Nice little photo-in-a-box on the lower right corner of the cover (looks like the same photo that was in USA Today, only slightly larger). The article focuses mainly on the production of Moss Elixir, and includes a word or two from Pat Colier. If there's any interest at all, I'll post it some time next week. If there's no response I'll assume you're all going to buy your own copy or you don't care. Russ. "maybe it was the beer I had for lunch, but I'm craving bangers & hot mustard right now." - me, four minutes ago ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: ! Subject: Re: MIX article this email expresses interest. i can recompense by typing in the cmj article, if there's interest in that. doug -- oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug -- dmayowel@access.digex.net a.k.a. dougmhyphw@aol.com -- get yr recently updated pathos at http://www.mwmw.com/pathetic/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:04 +0200 (METDST) From: James Isaacs Subject: Robyn in Germany So, I shall be going to the Robyn concert Monday in Frankfurt. I shall get the scoop. There was a preview of the Robyn concert in the monthly Frankfurt magazine. It was only a blurb, and in German, but it did contain a picture. The concert starts at 8:00. And, I like Herb Alpert, too. It brings back memories of my childhood, when my father had the Whipped Cream album. James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:04:39 -0400 From: sister ernestine Subject: hang the dj for completeists only: "balloon man" has been included on a compilation put out by rhino called _modern rock: hang the dj (1986-88)_. it's a three disc (sold separately) retrospective back of the late 80s, which is considered to be the infancy of "modern rock". "balloon man" appears on the 1988 disc. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .