From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #174 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 174 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- euro Mossy Liquors That's all folks... Dylan song Re: Warner site Re: long lost male train Re: The Missing Trilobyte Re: MossBrew and other flavas The Teardrop Explodes Re: The Political Explosion and some RH (but just a little) Re: Quintessential Hitchcock Re: Quintessential Hitchcock The Teardrop Explodes His favourite songs; plus 60s quiz rave ups RE: martyrs and mourning Hitchcock clipping compendium Re: Very Very Hungry, what gives? Re: The Political Explosion and some RH (but just a little) Re: US tour dates Greatest Hits? Where? RE: martyrs and mourning fegblip Shuffling Fegstones? Being a trout, and Greatest Hits... Re: His favourite songs; plus 60s quiz Allright What? Re: Baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense Terry Meets Julie BUSH OF GHOSTS Re: Baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense Robyn vs. Julian? i got it! i got it! Richard Thompson - no conflict Little Fish Eat Big Fish Re: MossBrew and other flavas Re: Finally Got Mossy Liquor...and you can too! Greatest Hits Tour dates - bogus? & tidbits Life Is Good Goldmine 60s quiz (fwd) Re: rave ups Re: Goldmine questions--no robyn content Sweet 'n' Kinky Librarians (not the new Traci Lords movie) Quintessential Quagmire questions about MOSS Re: baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense Hello out there Boston show questions about MOSS Greatest Hits - Discussion Web site TOUR SCHEDULE Unsung scribe Robyn vs. Julian? Robyn vs. Julian? (again) 60s quiz His favourite songs Re Toronto show - October 27th Essence of Robyn Re: Greatest Hits - Discussion Robyn on Julian ------------------------------ From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: euro Mossy Liquors Date: Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:47:39 BST The lighter-than-me Mike Godwin wrote: > PS Absolutely stinking review of last week's 12-bar show in the > 'Independent on Sunday' newsapaper. I'm not going to post it - in fact I'm > going to throw it away. Oh no, go on, post it - there's far too much niceness around here. What didn't they like ? I wondered who the men in suits at the gig were. Sid Griffin in support last week: "I'll try to make equal eye contact with you guys upstairs, and the downstairs lot. Any of you guys up there from The Guardian ? No ? OK, I'll just look downstairs." Any euro-fegs still searching for Mossy Liquor may be able to order them from Glitterhouse in Germany - they take credit card orders by post or fax, or payment by eurocheque. Price is DM21,90 plus DM12 postage per order. I don't know how many they have. Email: 100435,3120@compuserve.com; http://www.ontide.de/glitterhouse Fax: 05273 363637; Tel: 05273 363636 Jonathan Shape: long Sign: aquarius Orientation: any direction you point me Age: 31 ------------------------------ Subject: That's all folks... From: guambat@juno.com (James & Holly Moore) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 10:17:00 EDT I am truly sorry for my part in the flameup this weekend. But I maintain that this list has degenerated to the point that something needed to be said. Apparently, all but about 2 or 3 people disagree with me, and so I will graciously exit instead of causing more trouble. Thanks to everyone with whom I traded and to all you very, very nice people out there on this list from whom I've enjoyed much conversation and learned a lot about both life and Robyn over the past year and a half. Unsubscribing, Jim Moore guambat@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:01:39 GMT From: Rob Collingwood Subject: Dylan song Thanks to everyone who identified the song for me. I have trouble with the occasional one of Robyn's songs so it's no wonder I can't spot a Dylan song. Incidentally, they were selling T shirts at the Roadhouse (I didn't spot any at the 12-Bar, perhaps there isn't space). There were no new T shirts, and some of older ones are now in short supply. All the T shirts were 5GBP except the last remaining Fegmania one (small) which was 4GBP. -- Rob Collingwood Warrington, Cheshire, England ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Warner site Date: Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:40:45 -0700 From: Tom Clark "Christopher Donnell" MG Gave Us This: >The following has turned up in the dld directory. However, I have no sound >card so I didn't find out if the files actually worked - Mike Godwin > >Index of /robynhitchcock/dld/ > > Name Last modified Size Description > > Parent Directory > devil.aif 08-Sep-96 09:51 366K > devil.wav 08-Sep-96 09:49 366K > queen.aif 08-Sep-96 09:47 344K > queen.wav 08-Sep-96 09:45 344K > yeah.aif 08-Sep-96 09:43 323K > yeah.wav 08-Sep-96 09:41 323K > So I Give You This: I checked 'em out. They're approx. 30 seconds each of just what you think they are. I gotta split, -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:42:52 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@inforel.com (Truman Peyote) Subject: Re: long lost male train >As usual, susan is brilliant. How about--not only Cale backing Robyn, >but doing one of his great production jobs as well? >K, the , can I help it if Im an abrasive NY tupe myself, Cap? Thank you, Kay! Well, I kind of assumed that production would be part of the deal. I mean, it IS John Cale we're talking about here :). I'd love to hear Robyn improvise on "The Jeweller" :). Susan the "can I help it if I love that melodious Welsh-accented voice?" Gemini ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:43:33 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@inforel.com (Truman Peyote) Subject: Re: The Missing Trilobyte The devilishly charming rogue known as RxBroome has this to say: >Susan, dearest Susan of the erotically expansive vocabulary, asks: Sorry to repeat that. I just like seeing it in print :). but what is he about on his own, in the dark, when >nobody's looking? >"Trilobyte" strikes me as something none of the above artists would've done >under any circumstances. The other two? Ummm... they might not be pretty. > Perhaps "Devil Mask" and "Acid Bird"-- here I actually list two songs that >cram DylanMcGuinnBarrettLennonReed together in ways that would probably make >every single one of them uncomfortable. Well, actually "Trilobyte" strikes me as something Syd might have come up with. It kinda reminds me of "Effervescing Elephant" in some odd way that I can't quite explain. I was really going for which songs >distilled the essence of Robynosity, not necessarily the best ones. I think "Bass" would definitely fit here. Also "Egyptian Cream". And who else would have come up with something like "Victorian Squid", fer chrissakes? Susan P.S. Three cheers for librarians! Yay! ------------------------------ From: Cynthia Peterson Subject: Re: MossBrew and other flavas Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:11:29 +0000 At 07:49 PM 9/8/96 +0000, BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: >Totally shocked by all the homebrewers on the list, I was wondering if any >Fegs were going to attend the Pacific Coast Beer Festival in Santa Barbara >this year, and if so, please contact me. As for the recipe, I'll try not to >ruin it cause I don't really have anything nice to say about Moss Elixir. > But as a fan of beer, I would suggest that Moss Elixir be way over-hopped. > Very very bitter.... Allright yeah... > >BLATZMAN, beer enthusiast and lover of fine whines. > Homebrew on the Robyn list! Here's something I can reply to. Though still a novice homebrewer, I'm am very keen to brew some sort of Moss Elixer to celebrate the album and tour. I've been waiting for someone to post the "official" recipe, but so far have seen only suggestions. Today I realized I could wait no longer...I've embarked upon my own highly adventurous, somewhat risky, Moss Elixer. I'm still working on the exact recipe, but so far the ingredients I have gathered are: Muntons dark malt extract, extra dark dry malt extract, English Crystal malt, Rye malt, and just a smidge of Peat malt. For the hops I've got English Fuggles. Of course I'll use gypsum and Irish Moss to help things along. At the suggestion of the brewshop proprietor, Irish Ale yeast. And finally: Spruce essence and Juniper berries, for that unique woodsy flavor. I've never used these last two before, and don't know if they should be used together. Then again, I've never not followed someone else's recipe before either. Experienced homebrewers, feel free to scoff, but remember the Little Red Hen... Cindy ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Teardrop Explodes Ok..I've got a complaint now. [No...it's not a complaint against people of a specific ethnic/sexual group. We've been through that.] Someone on this list [I forget the name] said that The Teardrop Explodes was an excellent band. So good, you'd want to smack Julian Cope upside the head for breaking them up. So I bought "Wilder" by them. Now, instead of the fine, Underwater Moonlight-quality stylings, I had expected, I hear what seems to be a very mediocre imitation of the Talking Heads or The Cars. What gives? Does this band have any redeeming albums? [On the other hand, the Squeeze CD I bought was downright tolerable. "Pulling Mussels from a shell" kicks.] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: The Political Explosion and some RH (but just a little) Dear Hamish and all our other cross Atlantic relations, > After hearing Mr Bragg mentioned so often I wondered how popular he is > in the US. I know he is a clever tunesmith and all that (I've seen > him myself a few times) but his subject matter is mainly political and > quite left wing. (Farther left wing in fact than our own Labour > party.) How does this sit in the US. Aren't you chaps further right > than us. (Sweeping generalisation, I know.) I would have thought > that Billy Bragg would be branded a damn commie. You admit these comments are "Sweeping generalisations," but you are for the most part correct in your assumptions. I'd venture to say that most U.S. residents WOULD consider Mr. Bragg a "damn commie" (or, to school you in good ol' Ah-mer-eh-can, "A goddamn, sombitchin' commie!") However, remember, you are talking to those of us in the "Land Of The Free, Home Of The Brave" (gag) that have more than a passing fancy for ROBYN FREAKIN' HITCHCOCK!!!! (and some of *us* are commies, too ;)- my political two pence) Now, I'm not suggesting that in order to be into Hitchcock you must be a bleeding heart liberal, I'm only suggesting that I think we can all agree that we aren't the type of folk that simply swallow what we're given without question (let's say Hootie, for example). Let's face it, in order to be into Robyn at this level, you are at the very least open minded, and more than likely a "searcher." With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us at least kinda like Billy Bragg, and if we don't totally agree with his politics, we at least see SOME value or truth in SOME of what he says. In other words, I think most of us wouldn't be so base that we would write him off for saying things that aren't universally popular. I, for one, couldn't live without my copy of "Don't Try This At Home" (granted, his LEAST political album, but far more political than, let's say, Hootie). I couldn't be more excited by this double bill of Robyn and Billy! Sincerely, Jay Hedblade@aol.com "War...what is it good for? It's good for business!!!" Billy Bragg- "North Sea Bubble" ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:13:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Quintessential Hitchcock >* Devil: "Devil's Coachman", of course To my knowledge, a "Devil's Coachman" is an insect of some sort... a topic not unfamilar in our man's work as well. Cheers, Jay ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 96 12:05:42 +0100 Subject: Re: Quintessential Hitchcock Item Subject: Quintessential Hitchcock I hate to be picky but "next time 'round I'll be a trout" comes from Devil Mask. Oops. Hamish (using tippex) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ * Death: "Sounds Great When You're Dead" * Sea Life: "Bass", if only for the line "next time 'round I'll be a trout" and his couplet which rhymes "overeating" with "overheating". * Devil: "Devil's Coachman", of course ______________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber | glen@metro.net | http://metro.net/glen/ ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Teardrop Explodes Ok..I've got a complaint now. [No...it's not a complaint against people of a specific ethnic/sexual group. We've been through that.] Someone on this list [I forget the name] said that The Teardrop Explodes was an excellent band. So good, you'd want to smack Julian Cope upside the head for breaking them up. So I bought "Wilder" by them. Now, instead of the fine, Underwater Moonlight-quality stylings, I had expected, I hear what seems to be a very mediocre imitation of the Talking Heads or The Cars. What gives? Does this band have any redeeming albums? [On the other hand, the Squeeze CD I bought was downright tolerable. "Pulling Mussels from a shell" kicks.] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 96 14:52:00 +0100 Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Aaaaaaah, My life is now complete. Last night we played Heaven and I got to sing the high harmony on the chorus. It was.... erm...what's the word.....Heaven. I may also have converted the drummer (my brother) who is currently listening to Respect. And apparently the singer has been breaking into impromptu versions of I've Got A Message For You when playing solo. Everything is lovely. Just thought I'd share a positive/good vibration (depending on your orientation). Hamish (the Heavenly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:57:33 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: His favourite songs; plus 60s quiz Judging by the frequency with which RH is performing 'It takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry', it must currently be his favourite song by another songwriter. In terms of number of performances, what other songwriters' songs does he really like? 'The wind cries Mary' springs to mind (but probably not 'Grow Fins'). - Mike Godwin PS Here is that long-primised Swinging 60s Quiz - just three words from a 60s classic, but plenty of questions about them! "TERRY MEETS JULIE" 1. Name the song 2. Name the band 3. Name the songwriter (bonus mark for including MIDDLE name) 4. Name the first member to leave the band 6. Surname of Terry 7. Surname of Julie 5. Are Terry and Julie gazing towards the City of Westminster or towards the City of London? How can you be sure? 8. Name the film of a classic novel Terry and Julie starred in together 9. Name the author of that classic novel 10. Name the 1994 Australian film starring Terry (bonus mark for the name of his character) Good luck! You should find some clues in the questions themselves - MG ------------------------------ From: "James Isaacs" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:08:47 CET-1CST Subject: rave ups A wonderful aruthor that would do wonders would be a Mark Leyner. I believe him to be the Robyn Hitchcock of writing. Any and all should check out his book "My Cousin, My Gastroenterologist". I think the title alone deserves a read. James, who is beginning to think Jaegermeister is a Mossy Liquor. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:27:32 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: RE: martyrs and mourning > --- On Tue, 11 Jun 96 0:31:14 CDT Truman Peyote wrote: > > >Also..............."What's The Story, Morning Glory?" is the Oasis record's Jay Lyall responded: > are you sure its not "All the Young Dudes"? It sounds more like 'Roll Away the Stone' to me - but definitely Mott, nonetheless... Sha La La La Push Push - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:05:04 -0700 From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts RD) Subject: Hitchcock clipping compendium The new Factsheet Five (the zine review zine) lists a 88-page digest-size collection of clippings about Robyn Hitchcock, called simply "Robyn Hitchcock". The review says this is the second one the guy has done. The price is $5 (the price listed for the first one, done a year or two ago, was $5.50, and I don't know if it's still available.) The address is Carl Arnheiter, SpiFFing Records and Books, PO Box 725, Westbury, NY 11590. I haven't sent off for one yet, but I plan to. Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:18:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Very Very Hungry, what gives? James Dignan wrote: > > The track it replaced was called "Qu'ran" and featured a recording of a > Moslem devoutly praying. It was removed from the album when someone pointed > out that including the word of the Prophet in a track featuring musical > instruments which some Moslems believe to be not in keeping with the > principles of the faith would have caused problems. Are you talking about the CD here? I have a copy of the CD with both the tracks "Qu'ran" and "Very, Very Hungry" on it. > > BTW - this used to be a fun list. We've just got over the infamous Wilson > debacle, and now some people are becoming polarised over Christine's intro > mail. What gives? Is there any call for some of the comments that have come > out? (Terry, you surprise me!) As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter > what a person's politics, religion, sex or occupation is on this list. The > important thing is that we all like Robyn's music, we all want to find out > more about him and his music, and we're all interested in the pointless > trivia this sort of list usually abounds in. Isn't it? Hell, you've even > woken woj up now... Here, here!!! (Wild applause.) -Ner P.S. By the way, both "Moss Elixir" and "Mossy Liquor" rule!!! ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:28:30 -0400 Subject: Re: The Political Explosion and some RH (but just a little) In a message dated 96-09-09 12:00:29 EDT, HAMISH_SIMPSON writes: > After hearing Mr Bragg mentioned so often I wondered how popular he is > in the US. I know he is a clever tunesmith and all that (I've seen > him myself a few times) but his subject matter is mainly political and > quite left wing. (Farther left wing in fact than our own Labour > party.) How does this sit in the US. Aren't you chaps further right > than us. (Sweeping generalisation, I know.) I would have thought > that Billy Bragg would be branded a damn commie. well, yes the general political timbre in the us is a bit conservative...i mean president mcmuffin, errr, clinton passes as liberal over here.....urrgggghhh...anyways, billy i guess has a solid cult following, but other than "Sexuality" never makes into regular mtv, etc. he's basically underneath the political radar. ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:28:34 -0400 Subject: Re: US tour dates In a message dated 96-09-09 12:20:56 EDT, rreynold@ksjo.com writes: >>[nov] 8 San Francisco,CA.; U.S.A. Warfield Theatre >wow! the Warfield seems a bit large...tough to fill without a major hit >record. I hope it's *Robyn's* hit record. or else, live 105 and kome (and maybe you guys and alice) are gonna be busy throwing tickets at people like they were bumper stickers. sort of like 105 ended up doing for _respect._ ------------------------------ From: avarice@getnet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: Greatest Hits? Where? Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:30:37 GMT Hmmmm, has anyone seen the ever-elusive 'Greatest Hits' thing from A&M yet? I went out on my way to school to get the new R.E.M. (well, I really went to go the the A&M thing...) and I looked for it, but it wasn't there. I went to another record store and they didn't have it either! (I got sick of driving around on my way to the third record store...) What am I to do! I'm not messed up on dates am I? It IS supposed to be out today, isn't it? Well, my last resort is to go to work and buy it there if we have it yet. (I work at the ever-elusive Best Buy) I know we have 3 on order (2 more than we had on order of Moss Elyxir before that came out) but (must to many peoples surprise) there's no real way to tell when the stuff is going to come in or not. I think we always get A&M stuff late anyway. (All this is helped by the fact that I don't work in the music area, I work at the 'Computer Upgrade Center' and my familiarity with the music dept. is a bit lacking). At least I'd get a discount at work... -Qrys ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:54:35 -0500 (CDT) From: sdodge@inforel.com (Truman Peyote) Subject: RE: martyrs and mourning >> --- On Tue, 11 Jun 96 0:31:14 CDT Truman Peyote >> wrote: >> >> >Also..............."What's The Story, Morning Glory?" is the Oasis record's > I believe I was making a correction because someone had gotten the title a bit mixed up. We trivia nerds are like that- I just wanted to get the name right even if it's a band like Oasis that I don't much care about one way or the other. It's a sickness, I think :). Needless to say, it was not a commentary on the music or the band themselves, as the joke below undoubtedly was. >Jay Lyall responded: > >> are you sure its not "All the Young Dudes"? > >It sounds more like 'Roll Away the Stone' to me - but definitely Mott, >nonetheless... > >Sha La La La Push Push > >- Mike Godwin Would it be too presumptuous of me to ask what prompted the resurrection of this minor tidbit from the feg annals? :) Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:30:03 -0400 From: sister ernestine Subject: fegblip folks, ecto.org seems to have been down for the better part of the last 24 hours. looks like it came back up between 10:30 and 11:00 pm est on wednesday night. i'm not sure if monday's digest was delivered or not. tuesday's digest hasn't be sent yet and it'll take a bit of time to sort it all out. i doubt it will get out tonight, but it might make it our tomorrow morning. if not, you guys will have to wait til wednesday night since work gets in the way (sorry). apologies for the mess... woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:11:20 -0500 (CDT) From: JH3 Subject: Shuffling Fegstones? Fegs: This is my third local e-mail address in two months. Apparently what happened is that the ISP I'm signed up with now arranged some sort of secret exclusivity deal with my local (rural) phone company, under the terms of which the latter would refuse to grant local phone lines to other ISP's outside my local calling area. As a result, my original ISP (remember jh3@cencom.net?) left the area, and the company that came in to "fill the void" also left. So yes, my new ISP is monopolistic scum, but they're giving me 10MB of web space so that I won't complain publicly, like I did just now. Anyway, I've been without any feg-mail for two weeks, so if anyone has already posted a chart for "Shuffling Over the Flagstones," or was thinking about it, please forgive me. I just really like this piece. A lot. So...did I miss any flame wars? Or is that a stupid question? SHUFFLING OVER THE FLAGSTONES ----------------------------- I: ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------0-1-0--------------------------- ---------0-2-0---0-2-------2-0-------0-2-----0-----0- -2-0-2-3-------3---------------3-2-3-----0-2---0-2--- -3-------3-------3---3-----------3---3--------------- -----------------------------------------3-----3----- ...repeat thrice II: -----------0--------------- -1---3-1-3----3-1-0-1-3---- -2---2-------------------0- --------------------------- --------------------------- -1---------3------3---3---- ...repeat once III: --------0----------0--------[0]----- -3---2----3----2-----3--[2]-----[3]- -2---0----2--0-0-----2--[0]-----[2]- -0--------0----------0-------------- -----3---------3--------[3]-----[3]- ------------------------------------ ...repeat the whole thing and then... IV: (Hint: Use your thumb on the low E string) -----------------------------------0----------- -----1---0-------3---1-------010-----3-1-0----- ---------------------------02---20---------2-0- ---2---2---2---2---2-----02-------------------- -------------0--------------------------------- -1---------------------3----------------------- ...repeat thrice and return to Sec. II, then back to I (...or something like that) I always thought the whole point of having flagstones was to trip people up who tried to shuffle over them, i.e., forcing them to walk in a more careful, almost goose-stepping sort of gait, but what do I know? The usual disclaimers apply, and of course it's up to you to get the timing right. --John H. Hedges III, Inc. ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:18:10 -0400 Subject: Being a trout, and Greatest Hits... Brian of Nazareth sayeth: "When I think about Robyn, there are three subjects which always come to mind: death, sealife and the devil (or extraterrestrial spirits in general). Therefore my choices for the three essential Robyn choices would fall one each into those categories:" "* Sea Life: "Bass", if only for the line "next time 'round I'll be a trout" and his couplet which rhymes "overeating" with "overheating"." The 'Trout" line is actually from one of my own suggestions, "Sleeping with Your Devil Mask"-- which includes the devil, a death by hanging, and the aforementioned trout, not to mention a healthy side order of sex. But I dig your groove! Too bad that that "Get 'Watch Your Intelligence' on the Hits Package" campaign didn't work. I'm not too bothered because "WYI" s on one of the few A&M singles I already own. Anyone seen the comp yet? It has some really cursory and disingenuous if not insulting liner notes about how not every b-side was included because they "wouldn't want every Hitchcock fan's vinyl collection to become obsolete". Ha! They think we LIKE being this way! And they delight in our affliction! A pox upon them! Also, if we hadn't heard Robyn himself say that he was completely uninvolved in the poject, we might take the prominent banana in the cover artwork as further evidence of a burgeoning Lou Reed influence. Final politically incorrect note: Woo hoo! We got more librarians on the list! Woo hoo! Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:07:12 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: Re: His favourite songs; plus 60s quiz Mike wrote: >Judging by the frequency with which RH is performing 'It takes a lot to >laugh, it takes a train to cry', it must currently be his favourite song >by another songwriter. In terms of number of performances, what other >songwriters' songs does he really like? During the 94-95 "Between The Labels" tour, Robyn played "Visions of Johanna" quite alot. and the nomination for the 1990 Eye tour would have to be "Wild Mountain Thyme." (SID-CLAIMER: this is all from listening to tapes from those eras--I was never in actual attendance) John ------------------------------ From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:20:44 -0400 Subject: Allright What? I am eagerly awaiting the opinion of all Fegs who purchased a copy of the new greatest hits album AFTER listening to Moss Elixir. Why? I'd like to know what you think of Allright Yeah 1993 version. I know I'm not the only one who falls prey to this, but I usually fall in love with the 1st version of a song I hear. Any alterations to the original end up sounding inferior. So, please tell me what you think if the Moss version was your 1st version. I know some of you don't like to analyze things too closely, but I think I figured out what the difference is between the 2 versions. The 1993 version was recorded during the Respect sessions (I find this a very introspective, emotional session), and ends up sounding beautifully plaintive (sigh...). Since it's a great pop song, I think Robyn purposefully tried to make it a bit more upbeat. The new version seems less emotional, but perhaps more rockin & radio friendly. I know he changed the key, switched the backing vocals, took out the organ(sigh), toned down the slide. More rocking, less depressing... Any takers? Blatzy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:21:41 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Jonathan Turner wrote: > > PS Absolutely stinking review of last week's 12-bar show in the > > 'Independent on Sunday' newsapaper. I'm not going to post it - in fact I'm > > going to throw it away. > > Oh no, go on, post it - there's far too much niceness around here. MG: Niceness? I thought this was the new, no-nonsense, tough feg forum! However, you asked for it - and so did woj - so here it is: * * W * A * R * N * I * N * G * * * * N * O * T * * F * O * R * * F * E * G * S * * O * F * * * * A * * * S * E * N * S * I * T * I * V * E * * * * D * I * S * P * O * S * I * T * I * O * N * * "I don't get it and I don't want it either" by Nicholas Barber Independent on Sunday, 8 Sept 96. "In rock terms, the first week in September is the Twilight Zone, the interregnum between the summer's big festivals and autumn's big tours, the week when we get over seeing bands in field and get ready to see bands in arenas. A perfect time, then, to go to London's smallest venues. The smallest of them all is the 12-bar Club, a room of such doll's house proportions that the singer balanced on the soapbox stage can read what the reviewer is scribbling in his notepad: an especially unnerving situation on Tuesday, because the singer was Robyn Hitchcock and I wasn't scribbling anything very nice. "When the rest of the country was going punk, Hitchcock was flying the goat for surreal psychedelia of the English-eccentric variety, in the hope that he would be mistaken for the long-lost son of Syd Barrett and Sergeant Pepper. In the 12-Bar Club there was no room for a band to help foster this illusion. Instead we had to concentrate on the sweating, sinister man himself, and his lyrics, which are baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense about German planes circling a chessboard, and a woman asking the Egyptian god of death to lengthen her headphone lead. It would have saved us all time and discomfort if he'd just worn a baseball cap with an arm and mallet sewn on, and emblzoned with the words: 'I'm kerrrazy! Honest!' "And yet, Hitchcock is a cult celebrity. He has been adopted by American college radio, and by REM, who were heavily influenced by his former band, the Soft Boys. You either get it or you don't, I suppose. I don't get it, and I don't want it, either. After all, rhyming 'Stalin' with 'darling', as he does on his new album, 'Moss Elixir' (Warner) is not big or clever; the trick is to make it seem as if the words are where they are for some purpose other than to rhyme with each other, and Hitchcock never pulls it off. It's possible that he's a misunderstood genius, but if so, he's not one of those useful geniuses who invent helicopters or formulate laws of physics, he's one of those lesser geniuses who irritate people with their persistent daftness". * * * * * * MG: It's not exactly damning with faint praise, is it? Note for US fegs: The IoS is a national quality broadsheet newspaper - probably sells 400,000 or so, to supposedly 'intelligent', politically-aware graduate readers (like me!). I haven't got an e-mail address for them, but this is their postal address. Independent on Sunday 1 Canada Square Canary Wharf London E14 5DL Telephone No: 0171 293 2000 Fax No: 0171 293 2047 - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:16:03 +0100 Subject: Terry Meets Julie Item Subject: cc:Mail Text "TERRY MEETS JULIE" 1. Name the song Waterloo Sunset 2. Name the band Kinks 3. Name the songwriter (bonus mark for including MIDDLE name) Ray Big-nose Davies 4. Name the first member to leave the band The arm 6. Surname of Terry Whitfield 7. Surname of Julie Whitfield (Junes older sister and first wife of Terry) 5. Are Terry and Julie gazing towards the City of Westminster or towards the City of London? How can you be sure? Neither. As we speak they are locked in a passionate embrace and have their eyes closed. (Which is why neither of them see the dog pissing against their legs.) 8. Name the film of a classic novel Terry and Julie starred in together Jaws 27 9. Name the author of that classic novel Jeffrey Archer 10. Name the 1994 Australian film starring Terry (bonus mark for the name of his character) Jaws 28 - Down Under (Terry) Hamish (wondering if anyone will spot the errors) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 96 07:20:11 EDT From: Richard Thomasson <100634.1312@CompuServe.COM> Subject: BUSH OF GHOSTS MY LIFE IN THE BUSH OF GHOSTS the much imitated but never bettered "my life in the bush of ghosts" was delayed in being released until after the derivative "remain in light" and the other heads' solo projects due to copyright issues in sampling one of the preachers' voices. the track substitution ("very very hungry" for "qu'ran" i think) was because qu'ran sampled sacred islamic chanting which might have caused offence. if you like the preacher tracks on this album, you might be interested in listening to an early steve reich recording "it's gonna rain" - i think that's where david and brian might have got a few ideas. the amos tutuola book is also worth a read - you get to meet such strange characters as the television-handed ghostess. apologies for the non-RH content but i just couldn't let one of my all-time favourites be mentioned without chipping in joshua ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:25:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense Item Subject: cc:Mail Text "I don't get it and I don't want it either" by Nicholas Barber Independent on Sunday, 8 Sept 96. I'm not sure if I should shake my head in pity at the poor mans deficiency or just put in his windows. Anyone fancy running a poll? Hamish (in two minds, .... or maybe not) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:13:00 -0500 From: Brett Lanier Subject: Robyn vs. Julian? Um, don't see connection between Softboys and Teardrop Explodes other than time, space, and pop-sensibility, but do not see how TE can necessarily be just: > a very mediocre imitation of the Talking >Heads or The Cars. That's someone's opinion. I don't hear what he hears, even though am not a huge fan of Teardrop Explodes. However, Terrence (sorry, if that's too informal, because this is first ever posting to this list... (But have been Hitchcock fan for past eight years and very happy to read so much about a favorite musician who seems vitually unknown in Louisiana. (On his last tour, his show in New Orleans was cancelled, and am very disappointed that he won't be passing through here this time.) (Most of self's thoughts are fragmented.)),) I'm thrilled that TE broke up, because Cope never would have gone on to create albums like Fried and Jehovahkill (IMHO,his best.) They sound nothing like Robyn's music, but have the same stream of consciousness/unconsciousness feel to the lyrics. A rare album of his, Skellington, is comparable in its semisilly weirdness to Invisible Hitchcock. Other albums like World Shut Your Mouth are pretty little pop tunes, but nothing seems to be much like Underwater Moonlight. (Of course someone could point out to me how they are similiar. My musical tastes were nurtured in the shadow of a dairy barn. The bawling of calves and milking machines drown out the finer parts sometimes.) ------------------------------ From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (JT) Subject: i got it! i got it! Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 13:43:54 BST The relenting-under-pressure Mike Godwin transcribed: > "I don't get it and I don't want it either" by Nicholas Barber > Independent on Sunday, 8 Sept 96. Hey, I've GOT it and I don't want it. It'll be in the left luggage at Paddington Station until I collect it again next Tuesday, should anyone be able to relieve me of it. > physics, he's one of those lesser geniuses who irritate people with their > persistent daftness". Good to see a mention of physics in a review of Robyn. Time Out usually say "he'll either enchant or irritate you" when they preview a Robyn gig in their weekly listings. Thanks to Mike for rescuing the review from his shredder. This week's 12 Bar show didn't quite hit the peaks of the previous two, but was still up to scratch. The electric section was perhaps not as enjoyable for some reason - maybe I was just too close to the guitar amp, but Robyn's vocals seemed less distinct than usual. The acoustic set was fine, and the encore with Homer was excellent, as usual. Good to see a return of the green jeans, too. Shirt report: Black 12 Bar 't', then the white one with dots for the encore. Lasagne report: a bit cold this week, but the bread's up to a decent size again. The chilli seemed to get the thumb's up, too. Set report: acoustic: sinister but happy devil's radio visions of johanna ("a change from the advertised setlist") my wife & my dead wife ("left off Frank Sinatra's Duets album") devil's coachman de chirico st i'm only you ("This is called 'I Miss You Jesus Like I Miss A Rock'") trilobite yip song electric: i am not me you & oblivion insect mother only the stones remain encore with homer (back to acoustic): i saw nick drake (thought he said "a sonic drake" when he introduced it) where do you go when you die alright yeah beautiful queen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:17:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Richard Thompson - no conflict Think you got mixed up - Thompson is playing in NYC on October 15 and 16, Robyn in November. Hope you can see both! Rob > Subject: Robyn Hitchcock/Richard Thompson dilemma > > Why oh why are Robyn Hitchcock and Richard Thompson playin in New York City > on the same night? Why oh why is Robyn playing at the Beacon, my least > favorite live music venue in New York? I am probably going to wind up > choosing Richard Thompson over Robyn because I would much rather see a show > at Irving Plaza then at the sit down only Beacon. I saw Robyn & The > Egyptians with Pete Buck at the Beacon on the Globe of Frogs tour and the > fact that the audience had to sit down ruined any momentum Robyn could > gather.... It was a bit of a mediocre show. Oh well, maybe one of them > will add another night. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:20:23 -0400 From: Victor Triola Subject: Little Fish Eat Big Fish ** High Priority ** I was just wonderin' (it beats doing work): Have any of Robyn's past opening acts gone on to bigger & better things? (I believe the industry term is "Headliner") Example: Once unknown entities Bryan Adams & Cyndi Lauper opening for The Kinks. P.S. to fellow New Yawkah Steve "The Favorite Color Guy" Matrick Re: Bogus Beacon Theater It's even worse when you have to sit through "Flight Of Mavis!" And while we're on the subject, Steve: Did you catch Richard Thompson open for Crowded House that wonderful night in October 1991 at that very same venue? And if that night wasn't incredible enough, Kirsty Maccoll was supposed to be on the bill also but had to cancel. Merde! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:28:18 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: Re: MossBrew and other flavas Cindy wrote: > I'm still working on the exact recipe, but so >far the ingredients I have gathered are: Muntons dark malt extract, extra >dark dry malt extract, English Crystal malt, Rye malt, and just a smidge of >Peat malt. For the hops I've got English Fuggles. Of course I'll use gypsum >and Irish Moss to help things along. At the suggestion of the brewshop >proprietor, Irish Ale yeast. And finally: Spruce essence and Juniper >berries, for that unique woodsy flavor. I've never used these last two >before, and don't know if they should be used together. Then again, I've >never not followed someone else's recipe before either. > Cindy - it sounds great. I can offer this bit of advice. I have worked with spruce essence and it can quickly overpower the beer. I made a honey spruce beer last year and it was basically like drinking a pine tree. I got used to it somehow. So, I suggest being extra careful with the spruce. I have never worked with Juniper berries. If you post or email me the exact amounts of your recipe, I'll give it a whirl. A brilliant feg suggested shrimp powder.......its got me thinking.... Michael ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Finally Got Mossy Liquor...and you can too! > Has Terry or any other TABmaniacs TABbed out any of ML or ME yet? Cause I'll put > my vote in for getting a version of "Shuffling" (maybe I will work on it this weekend > ...hmmmm) I tabbed out a good portion of "NetSurfer Ghost". Most of the songs I tabbed either didn't make it to the album or the tabs were wrong. My suggestion for "Shuffling down the Flagstones" is to look up "Chinese Water Python" and work from there. But if I have time, I'll try it. Terrence "THM" Marks normal@grove.edu ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 09:18:43 Subject: Greatest Hits Well, it sounds good in the morning while in the shower...I already had most of the b-sides...the Ruling Class is the best of the lot for my money.... ...is it just me or does the spoken intro to "eyes" seem a little...I dunno...stiff?...I heard him to a similar take on that story before and he seemed much more bouncy and fun.... 4 from Perspex and only 2 from respect....hmmmm Cheers Jay ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 9/11/96 "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals; I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." --A. Whitney Brown ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:15:27 EDT Subject: Tour dates - bogus? & tidbits I was hoping this post would be titled "Whoopee! I got 'em". Nope. I called Club Soda here in Montreal to ask about ticket availability for Billy/Bobby and was told they had no information on that subject. TIDBITS -- Greatest hits in Canada: We're still waiting for Moss Elixir in some stores! HMV does carry it, though. I've yet to see ML in any record store here. I brought back 3 copies from Tower Records in Nyack, NY. Canucks might try ordering from CD Now as Jeffrey did. Cindy: Regarding your mossy liquor recipe; the peat malt idea is perfect! Don't worry about the juniper berries -- I've used them in porter before and they are just lovely. Give one of them a squeeze and sniff it; you'll see what they do to the flavour. Instead of spruce extract you might consider clipping the new growth from a spruce tree. I've made spruce beer this way and it was fine after it aged a while. While the idea of shrimp powder appeals to the feg in me, I can't imagine it making a positive contribution to the brew (I know you're not planning to use it, but it's been mentioned.) You've already got something from the sea (irish moss). You could use isinglass as a fining agent -- I believe it's made from fish swim bladders. Victor and Christine: Hurrah for you for both for not storming off! Laurence: Regarding your post about the RH clippings: Carl has posted to this group as Carl SpiFFing. Are you still there Carl, of have you fled with the rest of them? Robyn: That's not moss, it's a fern! -- Ross Overbury Montreal, Quebec, Canada email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 11:21:21 EDT From: "mark allen" Subject: Life Is Good Went to my favorite record store yesterday and picked up brand new releases by Robyn (Greatest Hits - A&M), R.E.M., and Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. Haven't listened yet but will report when I do. P.S. It doesn't get much better then this! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:37:58 -0500 (CDT) From: John Tyson Littlejohn Subject: Goldmine Just thought you might want to know: I picked up the latest copy of Goldmine magazine. I found that in about a month the cover artist. This means either an interview or an article. For those of you who don't know Goldmine magazine, its articles are massive (20-30 pages) and covered with pix. There is also usually a discography. JL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:04:08 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: 60s quiz (fwd) The stimulants have kicked in all right. Susan is the current quiz leader, on 9 points out of 12, ahead of James Isaacs (a gallant 6.5) and Hamish Simpson (a stylish 4). However, James picked up points on questions 4 and 5 that Susan missed. Any offers on 8 and 9 (the film and its original author)? - Mike >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:23:52 -0500 (CDT) >From: Truman Peyote >To: M R Godwin >Subject: 60s quiz > >My bash at the quiz- > >BTW, Mike, good choice- this is one of my favorite songs of ALL TIME. >Anyone who didn't get the first three should be shot :). > >1. Waterloo Sunset >2. The Kinks >3. Raymond Douglas Davies >4. ow! not sure. John Dalton? >5. Again, not sure. I think towards Westminster. I'm an ignorant American. >6. Terrence Stamp >7. Julie Christie >8 & 9. Yipes. Don't know. >10. Priscilla, Queen of The Desert! His character was called Bernadette. > >Susan > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Eugene Subject: Re: rave ups On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, James Isaacs wrote: > A wonderful aruthor that would do wonders would be a Mark Leyner. I > believe him to be the Robyn Hitchcock of writing. Any and all should > check out his book "My Cousin, My Gastroenterologist". I think the > title alone deserves a read. I completely agree. Mark Leyner did an interview with Kieth Richards, I believe, that I've never seen, but I would love to see him write about Robyn. Also, you should check out "Et Tu, Babe," it's amazing. Bye. -Eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Trixie, Bunny and Peaches" Subject: Re: Goldmine On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: > Just thought you might want to know: > > I picked up the latest copy of Goldmine magazine. I found that in about a > month the cover artist. the cover artist [will be ?(robyn)?]...right? curious :), .chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:15:57 -500 From: spine@iastate.edu (James Francis) Subject: questions--no robyn content please don't read if you're bothered by a lack of robyn content --------------------------------------------------------------- hi. sorry for the lack of robyn content, but i've heard SOMEONE on this list mention being big fans of all of the following and have questions: 1) how is the new billy bragg album? (which of his others does it most resemble, if any?) 2) how is the recent throwing muses album? 3) has anybody in the states found martin newhall's new album? 4) has anyone heard the most recent magnetic fields album? (i have the 6ths, _wasps nest_, but no magnetic fields and wondered if i'm likely to like the magnetic fields as well.) 5) how is the new sam philips album? 6) does anyone have the new sebadoh album? if anyone has time to give some advice about any or all of these, i'd really appreciate it. i have limited $$ and am trying to decide which one to get next. thanks ------------------------------ From: got milk? Subject: Sweet 'n' Kinky Librarians (not the new Traci Lords movie) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:20:59 -0700 At 09:20 11.09.96 -0400, Victor Triola wrote: >I was just wonderin' (it beats doing work): Have any of Robyn's past >opening acts gone on to bigger & better things? (I believe the industry >term is "Headliner") I saw Robyn on the 1992 Perspex Island Tour and his opening act was Matthew Sweet. He's no superstar, but he's done ok for himself. >Example: Once unknown entities Bryan Adams & Cyndi Lauper opening for The >Kinks. ACK! It's a damn good thing I had finished eating before reading this. While we're on the subject, has anyone opened for Robyn that absolutely did not deserve to? Someone so diametrically different from our man that they did not belong in the same neighborhood, let alone on the same stage together? I'm thinking a Monkees/Hendrix kind of thing here...or a Kinks/Bryan Adams thing... May I also say, for the record, that should I ever feel the need to reveal my latent librarianism, I know I'll do it here where I can be supported and loved by others who are also librarians or know someone who is. ;) ;) ;) Til I find the courage to expose my librarianism to the world, --g Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. ______________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber | glen@metro.net | http://metro.net/glen/ ------------------------------ From: got milk? Subject: Quintessential Quagmire Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:20:56 -0700 At 12:05 10.09.96 +0100, HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com wrote: >Item Subject: Quintessential Hitchcock > I hate to be picky but "next time 'round I'll be a trout" comes from > Devil Mask. Oops. At 00:18 11.09.96 -0400, RxBroome@aol.com wrote: >The 'Trout" line is actually from one of my own suggestions, "Sleeping with >Your Devil Mask"-- which includes the devil, a death by hanging, and the >aforementioned trout, not to mention a healthy side order of sex. But I dig >your groove! > To which I reply: I can't believe a stupid mistake like that! Why would I confuse those two songs? Is it some subconscious association that I have between the two songs? Has anyone else made the same mistake as I? Am I just digging myself a bigger hole by not facing the fact that I should get my RH facts straight before posting? Blimey! It's alright, I'm from Barcelona, --g Frisbeetarianism, n.: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. ______________________________________________________ Glen E. Uber | glen@metro.net | http://metro.net/glen/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:22:08 -500 From: spine@iastate.edu (James Francis) Subject: questions about MOSS 1) someone who had a pre-release copy of the album said that the cover was a picture of an upside down duck. my copy has the duck on the inside somewhere, but has the robyn w/ harmonica on cover. are there different covers out there? (or were the pre-release copies different?) 2) one review that someone reprinted noted, positively, that robyn had named a song "a happy bird is a filthy bird." my copy simply calls the song "filthy bird" (not as good, in my opinion). does anyone else's have the long title? thanks, "jim" francis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 12:03:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: baffling, contrived, miserable nonsense >It's possible that he's a misunderstood genius, but if so, he's not >one of those useful geniuses who invent helicopters or formulate laws of >physics, he's one of those lesser geniuses who irritate people with their >persistent daftness". > > * * * * * * > >MG: It's not exactly damning with faint praise, is it? no, but it's funny. -rr I don't like helicopters, by the way. Much too noisy. ------------------------------ From: "James Isaacs" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:32:45 CET-1CST Subject: Hello out there Is my good friend Mark, or Redsfan as he called himself, still out there? If so, how can the Reds choke so?!? james ------------------------------ From: "A. David Wright" Subject: Boston show Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:30:24 -0600 Does anyone have any info yet on where or how to get tickets for the Boston show? Robyn's not coming anywhere near my town, but I was planning a trip to Boston this fall anyway, and I'd like to coordinate the two if possible. Any info would be GREATLY appreciated! -David ------------------------------ From: avarice@getnet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: questions about MOSS Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:30:32 GMT >1) someone who had a pre-release copy of the album said that the cover >was a picture of an upside down duck. my copy has the duck on the >inside somewhere, but has the robyn w/ harmonica on cover. are there >different covers out there? (or were the pre-release copies different?) There is a pre-release version that was released in a cardboard sleeve with the upside-down duck on the front and the cat on the back. I saw one used in a record store yesterday (but was out of money, so it's still there) >2) one review that someone reprinted noted, positively, that robyn had >named a song "a happy bird is a filthy bird." my copy simply calls the >song "filthy bird" (not as good, in my opinion). does anyone else's >have the long title? I haven't seen anything with the long title, other than my old tapes - Which I had written the longer version. -Qrys ------------------------------ From: avarice@getnet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: Greatest Hits - Discussion Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:37:51 GMT Well, we ended up having some (3!) at work, so I was able to get it (discounted, even!) Some thoughts... I am still trying to relate to a Hitchcock CD called 'Greatest Hits' that has 'Legalized Murder' on it. It'd be better put on something like 'crap that didn't turn out too well for the completist only'. Other than that, 'Chinese Bones'? 'UUL'?, hmmmm.. 'Arms Of Love'? It's interesting that 'She Doesn't Exist' is back-to-back with 'Dark Green Energy', both with Stipe vocals. The intro to the acoustic Eyes sounds out of place without the acoustic Eyes after it. (and the title 'Into to 'Eyes'' is pretty insipid, I much prefer 'spoken word intro'. 'Watch Your Intelligence' was not included in favor of including Bright Fresh Flower? I'm sure the inclusion of 'Alright Yeah' will provide some confusion to the comsumer who hears the song on the radio and wants to buy a CD... hmmm it's on both ME and this Greatest Hits thing... Cover's a little whack. Liner notes are foolish. It's still great to have Ruling Class on CD rather than that silly cassingle which is has almost completely destroyed itself... and it makes my tape of non-album tracks notably shorter (as it was getting longer) and it's time to move it to mini-disc anyway. -Qrys ------------------------------ From: avarice@getnet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: Web site Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:42:44 GMT It seems the official web site is now up.. http://www.wbr.com/robynhitchcock/ it'd looks like it might be cool. -Qrys ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:52:06 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: TOUR SCHEDULE >Does anyone have any info yet on where or how to get tickets for the Boston >show? Robyn's not coming anywhere near my town, but I was planning a trip >to Boston this fall anyway, and I'd like to coordinate the two if possible. >Any info would be GREATLY appreciated! > >-David THIS INFO WAS POSTED ON THE BILLY BRAGG LIST. I THINK SOME OF THE DETAILS HAVE YET TO BE WORKED OUT SINCE THE ORPHEUM IN BOSTON DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT: we have provsional dates for the North American Tour with Robyn at http://home.dti.net/joly/bragg/dates.html Billy Bragg & Robyn Hitchcock North America Oct-Nov 1996 OCTOBER 24 Montreal,QUEBEC; CANADA Club Soda 25 Ottawa,ONTARIO; CANADA Barrymore's Music Hall 26 T.B.A. 27 Toronto,ONTARIO; CANADA Concert Hall 28 T.B.A. 29 Ann Arbor,MI.; U.S.A. 30 Chicago,ILL.; U.S.A. The Vic 31 T.B.A. NOVEMBER 1 Minneapolis,MN.; U.S.A. 1st Avenue 2 Denver,CO.; U.S.A. Ogden Theatre 3 Boulder,CO.; U.S.A. E-Town Radio 4 Vancouver,B.C.; CANADA The Vogue 5 T.B.A. 6 Seattle, WA.; U.S.A. Moore Theatre 7 OFF 8 San Francisco,CA.; U.S.A. Warfield Theatre 9 T.B.A. 10 Los Angeles,CA.; U.S.A. El Rey Theatre 11 OFF 12 Atlanta,GA.; U.S.A. Roxy 13 Washington D.C.; U.S.A. 9:30 Club 14 Philadelphia,PA.; U.S.A. 15 New York,N.Y.; U.S.A. Beacon Theatre 16 Boston,MA.; U.S.A. Orpheum Theatre ------------------------------ From: "(The Rooneys)" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:20:14 +0000 Subject: Unsung scribe I thought that this list would be really cool. I mean, RH is really cool and transcends music. Naturally I thought this list would transcend e-mail and be a spiritual haven of humor and ultimate coolness. I thought I could log in and (although rarely participate) savor every post, absorb its talmudic beauty, and be transported; but it turns out this list doesn't even have true color graphics or offer alternate tabs for the banjo or ukelele. It's just a list where a bunch of people are often witty, seemingly have fun and exchange honest opinions about RH, his music, his tour dates, relay his interviews, give notice and transcripts of live chats, and freely exchange tapes `n' stuff behind the scenes. I mean, take away the humor, the guitar tabs, the diversity, the suggestions for music or movies that people might like, and the RH content, and all you have is a bunch of boring non-Robyn material. If I wanted boring non-Robyn material, I could have lurked on any mail server. I'm off to join the k00l server where we transcend e-mail altogether by never posting. It's kind of a Zen simplicity with the duality of having the most content with minimal band with -- logging in and imagining the blank slate of no messages to be the archetype of what mail servers could be (and that white looks so crisp and spiritual in 256 colors)--Makes me never want to log off. Open minded enough to be a true Robyn fan, but not enough to tolerate the seemingly innocuous postings about home-brews, - former subscriber feeling good that _I_ got in the last word! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:16:14 -0500 From: gokhman@zakuski.math.utsa.edu (Dmitry Gokhman) Subject: Robyn vs. Julian? Brett Lanier writes: >Fried and Jehovahkill (IMHO,his best.) Like both of those, but my fave (by far!) is Peggy Suicide. - D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:17:28 -0500 From: gokhman@zakuski.math.utsa.edu (Dmitry Gokhman) Subject: Robyn vs. Julian? (again) Check out the lyrics to Peggy Suicide: http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gaumondp/cope/l_peggy.html - D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:20:08 -0500 From: gokhman@zakuski.math.utsa.edu (Dmitry Gokhman) Subject: 60s quiz >4. ow! not sure. John Dalton? Nah ... Pete Quaife, right? - D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:39 -0500 From: gokhman@zakuski.math.utsa.edu (Dmitry Gokhman) Subject: His favourite songs How about 'The Ghost in You' by the Psychedelic Furs. He used to do that one a lot around 1991. - D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Vashty Hawkins Subject: Re Toronto show - October 27th Any Toronto-area fegs know when tix will be available for this? Called Ticketmaster and was put on "ignore" for about five years, then I gave up. Vashty (plus the constant exhortations to go see "Phantom of the Opera" on the tape you listen to while you're on hold - drove me mental) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:49:51 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Essence of Robyn >The topic of the three tracks that define Robyn's Hitchcockian essence has >been put forth. When I think about Robyn, there are three subjects which >always come to mind: death, sealife and the devil (or extraterrestrial >spirits in general). Therefore my choices for the three essential Robyn >choices would fall one each into those categories: > >* Death: "Sounds Great When You're Dead" >* Sea Life: "Bass" >* Devil: "Devil's Coachman", of course If those were the categories, I'd plump for "Surgery", "Victorian Squid" and "Freeze" - the last for that magical nonsequitur: "there's a justice in this world, and I know just what she's called, she's called Elaine". But IMHO the three categories should be by sound, not subject - Wistful - Raymond Chandler Evening Bouncy - Balloon Man Angry/Bitter - Cynthia Mask James (who's happy to be talking about Robyn again!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:10:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Eugene Subject: Re: Greatest Hits - Discussion On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Christopher Donnell wrote: > > I am still trying to relate to a Hitchcock CD called 'Greatest Hits' > that has 'Legalized Murder' on it. It'd be better put on something > like 'crap that didn't turn out too well for the completist only'. I completely disagree about 'Legalized Murder.' I think it's a great song, and was thrilled when I found it on Invisible History, and, I think it's great that it's now available to the general public. > > 'Watch Your Intelligence' was not included in favor of including > Bright Fresh Flower? Well, 'Watch Your Intelligence' is probably the most easily located B-side Robyn has ever had. While the other is a far rarer promo b-side. I've seen the CD at radio stations, but never in stores, though I'm sure some else has. Still, 'Bright Fresh Flower' is just that much more obscure. > I'm sure the inclusion of 'Alright Yeah' will provide some confusion > to the comsumer who hears the song on the radio and wants to buy a > CD... hmmm it's on both ME and this Greatest Hits thing... A&M probably thought that if it was going to be his new single, it would be good strategy to put it on the album. People might be slightly disappointed, I think I prefer the ME version to the Greatest Hits version. Still, it would have been more amusing to put the Swedish 'Alright, Yeah' on the Greatest Hits. Personally, I think it's just very wierd that a song that was a promo b-side is now on four different albums (including original) and that around the time it first came out, Robyn refered to the song as being, "Alright, yeah." -Eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:19:45 -0500 From: Brett Lanier Subject: Robyn on Julian Wish I knew more about what the two think of each other. Was reading something in reference to Robyn saying that he had a conversation with Cope about serpents, but I found no details. Also, a distant friend earnestly says that a couple of years ago, Robyn was taking requests that anyone yelled out as he stopped after each song. Someone yelled for him to do a Julian Cope song. Instead, Hitchcock supposedly made up a song on the spot that he titled "I Think I'm Julian Cope." Wish there was a way to test veracity of that story. The guy said that he can't remember the lyrics. (Going to ask him where he saw this show and when soon as cross paths again...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .