From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #166 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 166 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Where is the 12 Bar in London? Re: Julian Cope's The Skellington Chronicles Re: Split Enz RH good/bad albums The Devil's Coachman One I forgot... Re: Color Out of Space Unrelated to Robyn ------------------------------ From: Tony Bullock Subject: Where is the 12 Bar in London? Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:38:56 +0100 Can someone tell me where the 12 Bar is in London please? I want to see RH! Cheers, Tony Bullock tony@tonyb.demon.co.uk tonybullock@swalebor.demon.co.uk http://www.tonyb.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 18:56:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Julian Cope's The Skellington Chronicles John, Jacci, & Madison wrote: > > I received a tape today as part of a trade I did over the summer. IT is > Julian Cope, the Skellington Chronicles. Is this a bootleg, or a > legitimate release? The gent that taped it for me said that it is an > unreleased LP from 1985. But he has a CD of it (???). And he also only > gave me half the track listing for it, so I need a complete tracklist. > > If anyone has info on this, please e-mail me. I would greatly appreciate > it. I know next to nothing about Julian, so I welcome enlightenment. I have a Julian Cope CD entitled 'Skellington'. I don't know if it's the same thing you have or not. My copy has a 1989 date on it. There isn't much in the way of info. The CD was released by Copeco and Zippo Music Group is also listed on the liner notes. In any case here is the track listing: SIDE ONE 1. Doomed 2. Beaver 3. Me & Jimmy Jones 4. Robert Mitchum 5. Out Of My Mind On Dope & Speed 6. Don't Crash Here 7. Everything Playing At Once SIDE TWO 1. Little Donkey 2. Great White Wonder 3. Incredibly Ugly Girl 4. No How, No Why, No Way, No Where, No When 5. Commin' Soon JULIAN COPE, Acoustic Guitar & Vocals DONALD ROSS SKINNER, Electric Guitar, Piano & Organ DOUBLE DeHARRISON, Surf Organ & Piano ROOSTER COSBY, Drums & Percussion Produced by JULIAN COPE Recorded by HUGGOTH NICHOLSON Executive Producer PAUL KING Photography DONATO CINICOLO Layout DESIGNLAND All Songs 10 MUSIC Except "Robert Mitchum" WARNER BROTHERS Horns HUGGOTH & ROOSTER All Songs By JULIAN COPE Except Track 4 By JULIAN COPE & IAN McCULLOCH And that's about all the info to be found on the disk. The tracks are listed as SIDE 1 and SIDE 2 which may indicate that it was released on vinyl. Then again maybe not. Who knows with St. Julian - he seems more than a little addled on some of these tunes. I don't know anything about this disk. About 3 or 4 years ago I was in Tower Records in Philadelphia perusing the Julian Cope bin when I came across it. I didn't pick it up for a few weeks because it was selling at import prices ($20.99 - U.S.). After a few weeks I noticed it was still there so I grabbed it. At the same time I picked up another disk in the bin called 'Droolian'. This is a Texas only release and Julian Cope's name is not anywhere on it (although he is shown in a photo on the back. The slogan "FREE ROKY ERIKSON" is also prominently printed on the back). This apparently came out in 1991. These two disks are very strange - even for Julian Cope. Sounds like he was wandering around in Syd Barret Land at the time... -Ner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:01:17 +1100 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Split Enz >I believe that Split Enz released Mental Notes, and then Phil Manzanera >remixed it and it was released again? Correct? The Split Enz album "Second Thoughts" contains many of the same tracks as "Mental Notes", rerecorded and remixed by Manzanera. James ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:35:10 -0400 Subject: RH good/bad albums In my opinion, a bad Robyn album usually has AT LEAST three great songs (check fer yerselves). And a great Robyn song or two will usually blow away some artists "best" work (just thought of this one for no reason- is the Stone Roses debut, song for song, that much better than Globe of Frogs?). I guess what I'm trying to say is not that I LOVE every single thing the man touches, but that if I get a "Sinister," a "Devil's Radio" and a "Beautiful Queen" out of one Robyn record, I'm pretty damn happy. Maybe my expectations are low (I tend to thing of them as "realistic"), but I generally feel that way about most albums I buy. Three really killer songs = a sound purchase. After all, it's not very often that an "Underwater Moonlight" comes along :) Jay Hedblade ------------------------------ From: Terrence M Marks Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Devil's Coachman Someone on here intimated that were The Devil's Coachman released as a single, it would skyrocket due to opposition from the Christian right.. I'm wondering...why? They haven't picketed songs, to my knowlege, for a while, and none of the songs that they have protested have done too much better than they would've anyhow. Besides..the Christian right isn't composed of idiots who see the word "devil" somewhere and start denouncing it.....really. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 15:24:45 +0100 (BST) Resent-From: "Stewart C. Russell" Resent-To: fegmaniax Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 18:41:56 +0100 (BST) From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: One I forgot... Oh yeah, Robyn also played "I am not me", as I remembered the look of total incomprehension on the crowd's faces at the 'eniloraC' line. Mind you, incomprehension is the usual facial expression for your average Ayrshire ned. Oh yes, and I can probably attribute my general jadedness towards the other bands to my having seen The Steve Wynn Quartet support Sid Griffin & The Coalporters last Wednesday. They were braw!! -- Stewart C. Russell, Glasgow, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:02:20 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Color Out of Space On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > us H P Lovecraft fans should stick together! Lovecraft and Hitchcock get compared a lot. Robert Christgau, a music critic I usually respect, led off a dismissive Hitchcock description with "A rock'n'roll cross between H. P. Lovecraft and Kingsley Amis." (It's in the "Subjects for Further Research" section of his '80s Record Guide, if you want to see the rest of it.) There've been others, too, though I've no cites at hand. I've always been a bit baffled by the comparison, though. I think it's more accurate to say they're both misunderstood in the same way. They're both seen as death-obsessed (I think this is the reason for Christgau's write-off) and mentally unbalanced; they're both pigeonholed as merely weird by those who aren't familiar with their work. There's a certain surface similarity of style. From _The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath_ (what's this marking my place? A ticket stub from my first-ever Hitchcock concert. Synchronicity is cool) "Threading now the low phosphorescent aisles between those gigantic trunks, Carter made fluttering sounds in the manner of the Zoogs, and listened now and then for the responses ... He traced his way by the grotesque fungi, which always seem better nourished as one approaches the dread circle where elder beings danced and sacrificed." Sound familiar? Lovecraft's main theme was that the laws of the universe are much stranger and more terrible than we can know. We live in a small bubble, protected from the worst of it; and because we are natives of this limited reality we are unable to comprehend the full horrors of existence; in fact, should we be exposed to it to however slight a degree our minds will be destroyed. Reality and sanity are incompatible in Lovecraft. Furthermore, these spaces outside our world are *inhabited*, by beings so powerful and alien we can only think of them as gods; and they know they've been excluded, and the scratch on the edge of reality, seeking admittance. (There's a second sort of Lovecraft tale, the dream stories, which are closer to Dunsanian fantasy, though often mixed with the above ideas. They're a bit like the Oscar Wilde fairy tales, though not as well written and with (at times) awful implications.) Lovecraft set his fantastic ideas in traditional story forms. He wasn't interested in contemporary fashions, either in literature or in his personal life (he was a devout Anglophile and wished he could have been a loyal subject of George III.) Perhaps there's a parallel with Hitchcock's continued use of pop song structures. (I know that what initially won me over to Hitchcock was that his work seemed like an expansion of the popular music I'd grown up with; it was as though it had finally matured.) Both write about death and decay; but Lovecraft seems horrified by them, whereas for Hitchcock they seem to be part and parcel of the life force (cf. "Acid Bird," or the way the dead wife simply refuses to change her habits just because she's dead.) I've never seen Hitchcock as terribly obsessed with cosmic themes. However bizarre his imagery, he seems to be dealing with human experience and human emotions. I can't imagine Lovecraft would have been a Hitchcock fan ... he disliked music (and he *despised* fish, which is the reason so many cold wet slimy things show up in his work.) Fortunately all of Lovecraft's work is in print, should you decide to seek him out. Unfortunately the mass-market paperbacks, nifty as the covers are, tend to skip his more important stories. You're better off with the Arkham House hardbacks - I've seen them at Borders, so your local bookstore should be able to order them; they're about twenty dollars apiece, but they're huge and handsomely presented. _The Dunwich Horror and Others_ collects the core horror stories, and _The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath and Others_ collects the dream stories. (There's a third collection of leftovers and a fourth of collaborations and rewrites, but though there's worthwhile material in them they're really not the place to start.) Avoid the poetry at all cost. Off to post a review of _Moss Elixir_ to alt.horror.cthulhu, Tracy "But now with what horrible creakings and contortions it delivered itself of its dread burden! For *the elder toaster* had come among them once more ..." Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:28:10 -0700 From: bootleg@starlinknet.net Subject: Unrelated to Robyn I am wondering if any Fegs in London can help me? I am trying to find an import single by a band called Voice of the Beehive. I have tracked it to London Records. They are a subsidiary of Polygram. But the people at Polygram in the States don't seem to know too much about London Records. If anyone could find an e-mail address for London Records in London I would be eternally grateful for the rest of the day. Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .