From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #157 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 157 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes Re: Old RH interview handy thoughts and spiffing wheezes ripoffs, and then a safe non-controversial subject - Religion! New York visit (little Robyn) Isle of Wight Transcript - Part 1 (No Brian Wilson content) Re: Old RH interview Re: ripoffs, and then a safe non-controversial subject - Religion! poll 12 Bar, 20/8/96 Re: 12 Bar, 20/8/96 RH on the radio right now re rh on radio Re: 7" vinyl Re: "Robyquette" said the interesting dwarf Re: 12 Bar, 20/8/96 Poll Update BOSTON GLOBE ELIXIR Re: re rh on radio ------------------------------ Subject: Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes From: guambat@juno.com (James M Moore) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:29:31 EDT I've got a copy (in excellent condition) of Robyn's "Brenda of the Lightbulb Eyes" video put out by A&M in 1989. It's got the videos for "One Long Pair", "Madonna of the Wasps", "Balloon Man", "Raymond Chandler Evening", "I Often Dream of Trains", "The Man with the Lightbulb Head" and a live performance of "Brenda's Iron Sledge". I'll make a trade with someone -- whomever makes the best offer. Email me at: guambat@juno.com with what you'd be willing to trade me for it, and perhaps I can swing a deal with somebody. I'm sure there's a collector out there somewhere who'd like to own this. Cheers! Jim Moore guambat@juno.com "Oh, great knights who until recently have been called 'nee'..." - Monty Python ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:45:22 -0700 From: Ryan Godfrey Subject: Re: Old RH interview Hi folks! I recently signed on to the list and I've been lurking for a few days, mostly because I have absolutely no opinion on Brian Wilson. M R Godwin transcribed: >Highgate Cemetery is quite some place. Crumbling monolithic shrines >dedicated to prosperous Victorians, the imposing statue at Karl Marx's >tomb, fine panoramic views over London Town.This fading piece of Old >England seems a perfect place for an afternoon's debate with Robyn >Hitchcock. You see, I'd had Hitchcock marked down as a >late-twentieth-century throwback to an earlier, more whimsical age; some >kind of modern day Decadent Victorian Romantic in the mould of Baudelaire, >Huysmans, Symons or LaForge. If I were the type to mentally categorize snippets of things I read, I would have to make an "uncanny" category for this article Mike so kindly posted. I would have to create a new category because if I were the categorical type I fear my life would be far too canny. Anyway, I just made my first trip to London in June (I live in Arizona). I spent one wonderfully sunny morning cavorting in Hampstead Heath, then wandered about the surrounding neighborhoods, aimless and happy to be totally lost. Somehow I ended up in Highgate Cemetery, and the day settled into a peaceful gloom. Yeah, George Eliot's a resident, and Karl Marx is represented by a literally monstrous bust, and all of the Dickens clan not in Westminster Abbey are there, but Highgate ain't about celebrity bones. What it's about is atmosphere. It's totally unlike any cemetery I've seen in America. The site is hilly and densely covered with wild grasses and small trees. The graves--over 180,000, I'm told--are packed close together, in varying states of disrepair. Actually, the range of variance is from mostly weather-beaten to "there's a tombstone in there?". I had no way of knowing that he lived nearby, but I was struck by how much Highgate exuded the "RH-factor." Surrounded by the legacy of a city of skeletons, it was very easy to think about things in a Hitchcockian paradigm: the symbiotic (and literal) relationship of the living and the dead; the teeming authoritarianism of the Organic; the evanescence of love and the permanence of loss; and the existence of a unifying, transcendent cosmic force that manifests itself (among other ways) as spirituality and surrealism, sometimes in the same four-minute song. Also, the fact that cleverness will only get you so far. I'm delighted I got my mini-epiphany in a place so near and dear to RH. I just wish I'd known he was close by: I'm dying to find out if he blinks as much in real life as he does in concert? Anyone? --Ryan "Lying in bed, just like Brian Wilson, dead." --Barenaked Ladies ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:46:57 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: handy thoughts and spiffing wheezes >Geography: (my UK geography is a little weak, being an itinerant American, >so jets off if I get the locale wrong). Evershot is a village in Dorset, >in the west of England. For those people what like maps, it's south of a >town called Yeovil on the A37. Why did Robyn agree to play here? Well, >he's played there before, I guess. The man that manages the village hall, >Andrew, dates Robyn's sister. note the Robyn preponderance in this area. Not too far from the Isle of Wight, and right on track for the infamous village of Clyst Honiton (which kept us all guessing). Not far from Winchester, either. And we had a Wimborne connection not so long ago as well (that part of the country is renowned for its musical eccentrics, too. Robert Fripp is from Wimborne, Peter Gabriel is from near Bath, Andy Partridge comes from Swindon...) --- >Does it strike anyone else here that Robyn and Billy Bragg touring >together is quite odd? I know that they both have the same manager, but >how could their fan bases possibly interact? Well, I for one am a big fan of both - and I'm sure there are others of us who are, too (you still out there Eve?) >Robyn whose biggest political statement was: >"I'm doing this for free, just like Live Aid" "Love me love me love me - that's what all the papers say (but they used to be trees)" isn't political? And the Chamberlain verse of Cynthia Mask? Robyn doesn't blast his politics out for all to hear - it's not his style. But its there. And a lot of Billy's best songs are his less political ones ("Cindy of 1000 lives" is my personal favourite). Next you'll be saying that Billy Bragg hasn't got a sense of humour! The two best storytellers between songs, two of the most entertaining writers of catchy songs to pull at your heartstrings and occasionally get you thinking surreally. I've seen Billy every time he's been to New Zealand - a country he seems to love. I wonder if he can drag our favourite light elemental down south with him... here's hoping! What I'd like to see: Robyn and Billy on stage together, alternating songs. Railway Shoes leading into St Swithins Day. Dolphins segueing into The Wreck of the Arthur Lee. Mmmmmm! --- >Ok, at first I, too, thought the horns didn't really belong in the ME >version of De Chirico Street. But does anybody else hear car horns in the >dissonant sax parts? Get it? Car horns? Street? The horn chords seem much, >much more complex than the chord structure in the rest of the song. Now >you take your basic Caddy horn, which as we all know uses a triad made up >of two tritones.... Better yet, take two automobiles of differing makes >and give 'em a good simultaneous honk. Hear it now? a good theory - there are precedents for it, notably the use of brass to imitate car horns in Gershwin's "An American in Paris", written (coincidentally?) at about the height of De Chirico's career. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:53:05 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: ripoffs, and then a safe non-controversial subject - Religion! >>The only exception I can think of is ripoffs so blatantly obvious they boggle >>the mind and make one furious (such as Elastica's "Connection"- I didn't have >>much of an opinion of Elastica one way or the other prior to hearing >>this, but >>the rip is SO blatant that there isn't even a question- as with Peter >>Schilling's "Major Tom". Shame on these people!). closer to home is Uncle Bobby's running mate Uncle Billy (erm Bragg that is), who has come alarmingly close to ripoffsville from time to time. Anyone who has heard "Ideology" less than a week after hearing The Dylan/Byrds track "Chimes of Freedom" can attest to that*. I believe BB even had to apologise to Paul Simon for "liberating" two lines of "Leaves that are Green" for "A New England". (* speaking of which, yay Dr Byrds & Mr Hyde - home of the other "Child of the Universe". And "Nashville West" - yeee-haaaaw!) But then again, it can happen to the best of us. Even Lennon & McCartney were sued by Chuck Berry for the line "Here comes old flat top he comes grooving up slowly", and as for George Harrison... And Bob Dylan's "4th time around" is little more than a rewrite of "Norwegian Wood". At least partial credit must go to the writers if the acknowledge the original sources. But if Schilling claims that it was a coincidence, he's just opening his mouth and letting the wind blow his tongue around. Of course, postmodernism would allow for previous songs to be used as textural elements in new songs, too. The question is probably not so much "Is this ripping off X?" as "Is this creating something new out of X's work?" If the answer to the second question is yes, then surely it is still of some worth (again given the caveat about acknowledgement of previous work). Next week: digital sampling, and is Murphy Brown the illegitimate daughter of Mary Richards? --- >From: Della & Steve Schiavo > >That James guy wrote: >>Another Narnian group is XTC, whom have a song called "Always Winter >>Never Christmas", even. > >True, but Andy is a fairly militant atheist. (See Dear God, Merely a Man, >Season Cycle, etc.) a different James guy replies: Season Cycle is an extremely religious song! Not Christian, maybe, but very much religious. The whole Skylarking album celebrates the cycle of the years and harks back to the old pre-Christian religions in Britain, such as the worship of nature in the form of Epona, goddess of the horses - whose image, in the form of the Uffington White Horse is found on the cover of XTC's "English Settlement" album. I believe Andy is quite strongly religious, but not in the orthodox Christian sense. A lot of his songs reflect this, from Peter Pumpkinhead to Deliver Us from the Elements to Sacrificial Bonfire. (note: I'm not saying that he's pagan. I'm just sayiong that his view of religion doesn't lie within the striuictures of any one discipline - a healthy view, IMHO) James PS: Thank you, John H. 3 - hopefully yours is the light at the end of the Wilson tunnel! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:41:53 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: New York visit (little Robyn) Hi! I'm going to New York for two weeks this weekend. What I'd like to ask is whether anyone can recommend a store to buy a western guitar at. I'm looking for a Guild D-25. Thanks. Last time I was in NYC, I watched Robyn at Tramp's. Must've been 4 years ago. No such luck this time, I'm afraid... So much for Robyn content :-) Greetings, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn Cologne University, Germany Kempener Str. 66, D-50733 Koeln Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de or shagedorn@novaidea.com http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ From: NJARMAN@frmail.rosemount.com Subject: Isle of Wight Transcript - Part 1 (No Brian Wilson content) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:12:51 -0500 OK, This is taking me ages to transcribe from my very poor windy, rainy recording of the show. At this stage it has become a mission that WILL be completed. This is part 1, the first half of the first set at Compton Bay Car Park. There is loads more to come.... Eventually this will all be on a web page with photos etc.. Let me explain about spelling etc.. (My spelling sucks) I want this to be a completely correct and accurate web page with no spelling mistakes and more importantly with all the right words in it. If you think I have made a mistake then please let me know (off the list njarman@frmail.frco.com) However if you think I have made a complete hash of the lyrics, this is unlikely. To my knowledge Robyn has changed a lot of the words to his songs. This is how he sang them on the night. Saying that, it is also very possible that in the wind and confusion recorded along with his singing, I may have misenterpreted the odd word. Air<->Hair that kind of thing. Please let me know. The buses have left Yarmouth ferry terminal and headed across the island to the south cost of the western point of the island. (There will be a map on the web page) The buses have parked next to each other on Compton Bay Car Park. (Robyn gets off the first bus and walks out backwards from between them both, strumming his guitar) RH: OK, can you hear my voice at all? Crowd: YEAH Can you hear the guitar? YEAH What can't you hear? YOUR FEET - (LAUGHTER) Feet! Well there's some room in between the vehicles if you want to come on down, I'm going to start here, and then we'll move over down to the water. Or up on the cliff. Have to get moving its fast (Talking to band members ) You want to unpack it, I'll do a few on my own for a bit. (Singing) Being just contaminates the boy Being just contaminates the boy. I remember, some years back a punky reggae party, and a girl who measured your neck Oh I dream of ant woman , with her Audrey Hepburn feelers, and her black and white stripes, Oh she rises, and she hops, and then she eats you, I ain't gonna argue with a dame like that. See the burns, scattered on your dressing gown, See the dark seas, see the dark mini skirts, gliding away. Gotta do some lunch before you get down to some real judging Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. All right for you and you only. Being just contaminates the boy Being just contaminates the boy. But if anything should happen, I'll be underneath it, licking off of her stripes in a southerly breeze. Oh I dream of ant woman With her Audrey Hepburn feelers. and her black and white stripes in a southerly breeze. in a southerly breeze. in a southerly breeze. (Applause) Can you hear much? any? none? YEAH Is it coming through? Y'all froze? (Singing) We're overheating in a small town world, We're overeating in a small town world, I hear the sound of several different crimes, The distant eel and the silver chimes, Lieutenant Hodges often said to me, I see a shoal of them far out to sea. A distant cormorant above the grave, it wheels and dots and then it falls away. A feather biro in a knotted clump, performs a vixen with a feline hump. I wanna hold you in a solar globe, the way your body is beneath the robe Bass... I'm not talking about a, Bass.. I'm not dreaming about a, Bass.. I close my eyes and it just, comes. A looming mullet and the wily bream, are at the window with a quiet screen The feisty barbell and the gruesome tench, Are decomposing on a narrow bench. There's something clattering across the sand, and all I wanna do is hold your hand. Bass... I'm not talking about a, Bass.. I just can't go home without a, Bass.. Because no matter where I roam, I will always find the one I love, and it's shaped like that. Because he never made love to a loaf of bread, because of course he found one in his head, now frogs are reproducing on your back, and bubbles keep emerging from a crack. It's not a cormorant its not a shag, It's only something in a plastic bag. (Applause) Oh, thank you. I guess it's ah.. it's just after twenty past six... Gonna try and do this here for a while, and then move up where the sun goes down, so we arrive at the same point as where the sun sets, at the same time, and then we get back , but we're not going to go back via the same way we came because the brakes aren't designed to carry these vehicles in those places. So we have to go back heading east towards... towards Shanklin. So it's going to be really long. I'm doing all these songs in this key because it's the easiest one to sing when it's windy. If we were indoors I'd be doing all this stuff in C and things I really like, like D and that. But you have to get a slightly aggressive sound in E to cut through. (Singing) In the tower the lover sighs, Good sir knight please take my eyes, and use them... Doctor doctor I'm on fire, Oh I'm sad to hear that squire, We're closing... She snubs you out like silk and pours you out like milk. But just before the dawn appears, draining all the blue away, and just before all your perspectives change. Isn't it strange... On the black balaena sails. Tattered rags that hang on nails, remind me... You the mistress of your chair I the sergeant of your hair you blind me, you turn me on like light, a silver liquid light that emanates inside of you decorates the room around and just before the curtains part for dawn and everything's gone She had one long pair of eyes. She had one long pair of eyes between her. One long pair of eyes. So she could see you. ohhhhh On the lone Norwegian shore, lovers weep for ever more. In the evening. With the clouds above their heads go back to their lonesome beds and leave them. She falls on you like rain when will she fall again. Oh, just before the dawn appears, draining all the blue away, and just before all your perspectives change. Isn't it, strange... She had one long pair of eyes. She had one long pair of eyes between her. One long pair of eyes. Yes she had one long pair of eyes between her. One long pair of eyes. Yes she had one long pair of eyes between her. One long pair of eyes. So she could see you. ohhhhh ohhhhh ohhhhh (Applause) (Light aircraft flies over) There used to be a.... You know that, that bus there has apparently done over 720,000 miles. Not in any one day, but in the course of its existence as a bus. Which is roughly to the moon and back and then to the moon. So instead of just spending its whole life pootling around the West Wight, it could actually have just gone to the moon, come back and then stayed on the moon. And half of this song. There used to be two 1930 very old (from the same period of time as that bus) there used to be a couple of old De Haveland biplane Rapeeds (?), you know the ones with the little engines. Well they weren't. They were little if you were far enough away, just if you woke up with one in your bed next to you, be the same thing, but if someone wanted to remove one from your stomach you would have had to be a mammoth to have survived the operation to begin with. The doctor would have said if I'm removing a De Haveland engine it's going to be from something large. But otherwise, if you saw them way over there in the dusk, and they used to come by, and I used to be over there. About... about 10 feet of this cliff disappears every year, so in about 200 years time where we all are now is going to be 100 feet, 50 feet above the ocean and our ghosts are going to be hovering right above whatever is on the beach below us, and this is a song about that! I hope you can hear it. I wrote this about this beach, I wrote it on this beach... (Starts playing the opening few bars from Element of Light) (A Volvo pulls noisily into the car park) Here comes a Volvo... Designed for Impact.... (LAUGHTER) And in the Element of light, The sun reflected from the waves, ensure it spangles. The child of air is born upon the wind that blows across the sea. And in the element of summer, The cliffs suspended in the heat, the air in columns The tiny figures of the world are walking underneath your feet and underneath your air Where angels wander, I'll wander too, Where angels wander, over you... And in the element of darkness the starlight shimmers on the spray, and falls towards you Your perfect lover never there, and if she was she wouldn't be and neither would you. Save your illusions, for someone else, Save your illusions, for yourself, for yourself. In the element of laughter, the quick explosion and the slow return of sorrow. The tide recedes upon the bones of something beautiful and drowned, in coral and in jade. Where angels hover, I'll hover too, Where angels hover, over you... over you... over you... (Applause) This is Jake on double base, and this is Tim on guitar. They are both Capricorns. (Applause) Any you Scorpios thinking you'd like to kinda internally melt some cheese over your heart, just feel little sizzling drops grilling, or anything like that... Oh Ho, there's a storm brewing! Any of you wanna come and stand exactly where I am, or just behind me, it's a really good view. (Singing) I gotta go, but it won't be so I don't be back again. I gotta leave, but I don't believe we won't be back again. No, No, No, No, Everything's inside another, No, No, No, No, No, all right Yeah! I gotta walk, But I'm going to put my fork next to your spoon. I gotta split, It's a quaint old fashioned way to leave the room. Smell them burning leaves, every one decide another. No, No, No, No, No, All right Yeah! Whatever you pray to, that's where you belong. I'm going to get mine someday, I'm going to get mine.... I gotta laugh but there's half of me that wants to sit and cry. I gotta split It's a quaint old fashioned way to say goodbye. bye... What's your mother for? Not a launch pad for your father. No, No, No, No, No, All right Yeah! All right Yeah! All right Yeah! (Applause) Oh which ones first? (Some boy racers in a red XR2i rev it up and speed out of the car park - see photo) It should be mandatory, for any young male under 25 to forgo two things. Firstly a vasectomy should be a mandatory thing handed out to men as soon as puberty arrives, a kind of global Barmitsva. So that children can only be conceived (at least with a male protagonist) if the father has passed a sort of parenthood license. You probably couldn't get it 'til about 40. And the other thing is that the fuckers shouldn't be allowed to drive! I tell you young men is bad news. They make the young girls like lanterns, all giddy, and they go out and fall over and get extinguished. As for those shorts... OK, Patty Smith is a really great artist you know, but it's kinda sad what she says about Mojo because its only just been made up... (LAUGHTER) This is called "Hey Ice Dog Queen, I ain't been pierced 'til I never been" but the band and I know it as something else. (LAUGHTER) Are you all all right here? I mean we could all go and lean right on the edge. The sewage from that thing there comes out down there. There used to be a really nice sort of magazine stall just there and you could buy an ice cream and walk down the beach past the sewage. For years, but it just blew down in a typhoon one night. You know Dr Feelgood played on Shanklin pier and only five or six years later it was demolished in the typhoon. It's incredible you know, the way we're riven with coincidences. You get out of bed and you look, you know, there's a left boot and a right boot and you look down at your feet... and, and there they are! OK, I wrote this one over there, before I came out to here, I parked up there, and went down there... (Singing) Did you ever hover in the distance? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:55:57 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Old RH interview On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ryan Godfrey wrote: > I'm delighted I got my mini-epiphany in a place so near and dear to RH. > I just wish I'd known he was close by: I'm dying to find out if he > blinks as much in real life as he does in concert? Anyone? He was certainly blinking a lot during the final, Yarmouth bus station, stop on the Isle of Wight excursion. But he was performing at the time, so maybe that doesn't count. I expect Nigel's word by word transcript will indicate how the blink rate changed during the outing! :-} - MG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:11:09 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: ripoffs, and then a safe non-controversial subject - Religion! On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, James Dignan wrote: > > But then again, it can happen to the best of us. Even Lennon & McCartney > were sued by Chuck Berry for the line "Here comes old flat top he comes > grooving up slowly", and as for George Harrison... And Bob Dylan's "4th > time around" is little more than a rewrite of "Norwegian Wood". Dylan's 'Obviously Five Believers' makes use of an unusual Chuck Berry tune (forget which one), which is in turn "based on" Bessie Smith's 'Me and My Chauffeur Blues". > >From: Della & Steve Schiavo > > > >That James guy wrote: > >>Another Narnian group is XTC, whom have a song called "Always Winter > >>Never Christmas", even. 'My People Were Fair and Had Sky in their Hair But Now They're Content to Wear Stars on their Brows' actually has a dedication 'To Aslan and the Old Narnians'. It also has a long title. - MG PS I have finally regressed into an ageing hippie after hearing the CD of Donovan's Greatest Hits - like wow! man - far out and spaced... etc etc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:31:05 -0500 From: Tim Bugbee Subject: poll sorry for unashamedly sharing my opinions w/ the list, but it was much easier to hit the reply button than to dig through the digest to find the address of the poll collector. so, 1) I Often Dream of Trains 2) Can of Bees 3) Invisible Hits 4) Underwater Moonlight 5) Gotta Let This Hen Out 6) Eye 7) Black Snake Diamond Role 8) Fegmania 9) Invisible Hitchcock 10) Live at the Portland Arms tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 07:23:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: 12 Bar, 20/8/96 >Freeze * ^ does this mean it's not the same "Freeze" that's on Queen Elvis? ------------------------------ From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: 12 Bar, 20/8/96 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:57:38 BST > > >Freeze * > ^ > does this mean > it's not the same > "Freeze" that's > on Queen Elvis? > No, it means that we got confused somewhere. It is the same "Freeze" and I promise to drink less at future 12 bar gigs. Someone asked about the trousers. They were white. Robyn must have ditched the lime green ones, realising that their moment of high fashion has passed. Or maybe they're just in the wash. Hoping that there's a sandpit on stage next week, Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:57:08 -0500 From: gokhman@zakuski.math.utsa.edu (Dmitry Gokhman) Subject: RH on the radio right now Tune in to Christian Science Monitor on public radio right now. - D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:36:51 +0100 From: Christian James Burnham Subject: re rh on radio realaudio?? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin Subject: Re: 7" vinyl On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Michael Martin wrote: > I would like to order "I something you." Is it still available? What is > the best way to go about ordering it? I live in S. California. > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > Mike Martin > > "I Something You" in available through K Records mailorder for $3.25 post paid. Their address is: PO Box 7154 Olympia, WA 98507 USA Foreign orders are more. You'd have to write them to find out how much. -Brooks Martin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:21:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: "Robyquette" said the interesting dwarf blatzman shared the following with us: > Please don't take this as negative energy. It is just something I feel very > strongly about: Ditto for me for what i'm about to say. > Nick writes: "The fact that many of us have different views and like > different kinds of music...is what makes this list interesting" > > No Nick, this is the reason YOU find the list interesting. [snip] Isn't this implied? why do you assume nick is speaking for you or anyone else? > reason YOU find the list worth subscribing to. I'm not saying I disagree, > but you can't assume the same for everyone else out there. There are many > people who are uninterested in list member's other musical tastes. Some > people want Robyn INFO only, and don't care about my "different views and > different kinds of music" there are other ways of getting robyn info. this is not a read-only listserv. > And finally, my real reason for this post: > "Off-topic posts are just fine with me, by the way. Just keep it interesting > for the majority and avoid personal attacks." > > I understand the intentions are good, but this statement can't be in the same > post that contains a set of rules. What about the minority (if it is one) > who would prefer zero off topic posts? >[...] > If you post off-topic, the very reason that makes the list for some, you RUIN > the list for others. I personally don't want to ruin the list for anyone. > > But I sure like to argue... (that friendly communal garbage makes me sick. > We are not all friends. Please don't include me. The devil on my shoulder > is grinning) It would only take one person to read the digest every day, chop out the friendly stuff and spoon-feed the dry, tasteless data to the other people who feel the list is too noisy. The you could argue about the information, and you wouldn't have to be friends with anyone. Doesn't that sound great? you could call it "flamaniax" or maybe, "fegmaniax lite". maybe it's just me, but i feel the internet should represent freedom and community and *exchange* of information... not just a big box that shoots out information one-way. each of us has the right to isolate ourselves and just receive these messages every day, but each of us has the right to express ourselves, too. there shouldn't be any rules aside from "try and keep it robyn related", and AFaIK there never have been. of course, "robyn related" means different things to different people, but that's to be expected. i don't think anyone thinks it would be an interesting list if we were just clones who all thought the same way. Hope i didn't ruin the list for anyone with this post. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:48:13 GMT From: Rob Collingwood Subject: Re: 12 Bar, 20/8/96 Russ wrote: > >Freeze * > ^ > does this mean > it's not the same > "Freeze" that's > on Queen Elvis? > My mistake rather than Jonathan's. But I have an excuse as I am sadly lacking in the Queen Elvis department, so it was a new song for me. -- Rob Collingwood Warrington, Cheshire, England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:42:56 -0500 From: mlang@inch.com (Steven Matrick) Subject: Poll Update Thus far, 10 people have voted and things are getting really interesting. Clear patterns are developing--- maybe these things aren't subjective after all, maybe our opinions hold as truth.. We shall see. Keep Voting Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:35:59 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: BOSTON GLOBE ELIXIR ROBYN HITCHCOCK MOSS ELIXIR Warner Bros. The idiosyncratic Englishman comes back from oblivion specifically, the odds-and-ends album "You and Oblivion" - with a lushly pulsating, politically informed album that equals the catchiness content of his last college-radio success, "Perspex Island." On guitar, Hitchcock still plays homage to the Byrds, with the alluringly sinuous violin of Deni Bonet feathering the nest on several tracks, including the bouncy conundrum/opener "She Was Sinister But She Was Happy" and "Filthy Bird," a critique of apathetic Westerners (who are "watching massacres on cable"). Although it's a solo album, the arrangements are anything but sparse: Saxophones help lance Limbaugh on "The Devil's Radio," and add new-jazz swagger to "De Chirico Street"; "Alright, Yeah" and "The Speed of Things" bubble smartly with pop percussion. The romantic "Heliotrope" blooms in a hothouse of guitar music. Fans should look for the limited-edition vinyl "Mossy Liquor" album. - JEANNE COOPER ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:47:30 -0500 From: Dmitry Gokhman Subject: Re: re rh on radio Christian James Burnham wrote: > > realaudio?? No, real radio. It was pretty short. If there's interest, I'll transcribe it. - D -- Dmitry Gokhman http://www.math.utsa.edu/~gokhman/README.html Brahms Gang/Mathematics/UT San Antonio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .