From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #145 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 145 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- How's your trivia? Anorakmania Daniel Johnston instore Robyn next Tuesday Re: Anagrams of Robyn Hitchcock (no subject) Re: Anorakmania Anoraknophobia Re: Anoraknophobia Re: Sven - that's a nice name Re: An Englishman in New York hmm...... I forgot to add..... Re: Goths (non-Robyn) Anorakmania Re: Daniel Johnston (100% Robyn-free) RE: Anorakmania ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 12:57:34 +0100 Subject: How's your trivia? Chaps and Chapesses, I have a few questions about RH. 1) Has anyone done one of those family tree thingies that they do for musicians to show who joined, left, disappeared, or had anything else to do with RH? 2) What gear does Andy Metcalfe use? (I play bass and tend to get a bit anorakish about these things. I confess Mike G.) 3) I know Morris played drums for Vic Reeves house band on the Channel 4 series "Big Night Out" (UK TV), and that Andy played for both series (and the album) but was he playing keys or bass? (I didn't get a good look.) Does anyone know how they got the job? 4) I believe he co-wrote some songs with Capt. Sensible. Which ones? Tavrymutch Hamish P.S. What about "coy chick'n broth"? ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 04:26:30 -0400 Subject: Anorakmania Mike asks: "Do you really not have anoraks in the US of A? During the mod era, they were also known as parkas, and there is a similar garment called a kagool(?). Are these all unknown, or do you just call them something different?" Well, yes, we have them, and we call them lots of things, but "Anorak" isn't one of the things we call them. My very American Webster's Collegiate calls it a synonym for "parka", notes the word's origins as "Greenland Esk." (which I think would be "Greenland Esqu." for you Brits) and that the word is "chiefly British". I get the feeling that the definition is a little looser than that. Kagools I know not... closest thing I can think of is Kangol, a hat popular with early rappers despite its nearly exact resemblance of the hat worn by Gilligan on "Gilligan's Island". I don't think that you could wear it as a parka. "Mossy Liquor" seems to be gone from most of the major stores in greater LA, but I spied one in Moby Disc out Pasadena way-- so don't buy a ticket to Wisconsin just yet. I like this record quite a bit. Much of the criticism of it has centered around concepts like "if this was Robyn's REAL album, it would be a disappointment"... Well, guess what, folks! It's NOT his real album! It even has the word "Outtakes" in its title. So we can enjoy it as a sort of "making-of" document, or just appreciate the fact that a few songs that would've normally been discarded, forgotten and lost have actually found a home on this record, and we don't have to buy pricey import promo singles or wait 15 years for Rhino to tack them onto reissues of albums we already have as bonus tracks. This is a record just for US-- it's like a fan club release or something, y'know?-- so let's enjoy it as such. And it beats the hell out of "Invisible Hitchcock". Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: David Willems Subject: Daniel Johnston The Ones Who Understood The Tennis Ball I was wondering if there are any Daniel Johnston fans out there, his eccentricity and life affirming/gut wrenchin/beautiful songs seem to maybe appeal to fans of these lists. If so, I'd be interested in aquiring more of Danny J.'s stuff (especially his earlier years). I have "Hi, How Are You?" and "Yip/Jump Music" along with the album he made with Jad Fair. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. David ------------------------------ From: billpannifer@easynet.co.uk Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:03:24 +0100 Subject: instore Robyn next Tuesday Just to alert UK fegs to to Robyn's in-store promotional appearance at the Virgin Megastore Oxford St (the big one opposite Tottenham Ct Rd tube) at 1pm on Tuesday 13th. An acoustic mini-set, I assume. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:07:47 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Anagrams of Robyn Hitchcock On Thu, 8 Aug 1996 NJARMAN@frmail.rosemount.com wrote: > Does anybody else have an appropriate 'Robyn Hitchcock' anagram? I'm sure this has been done before, so this is probably just repetition, but the anagram generator that I tried came up with: TONY BIRCHCHOCK, the second-rate London documentary reporter, was trying to get a job with Hollywood producer ROCKY BOTCHCHIN, who had given up on heart-throbs and was looking for a COCKY CHIN-THROB instead. But after a glass of wine Rocky turned out to be nothing but a HOCK THROB CYNIC. Tony showed extracts from his South Sea shell-collecting extravaganza "CONCH HIT BY ROCK" but Rocky was unimpressed and wouldn't even pay Tony's fare home. After hitchhiking back to London, Tony was nothing but a BONY HITCH CROCK. - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 09:19:29 -0700 From: Nick Winkworth CC: NJARMAN@frmail.rosemount.com Subject: (no subject) Nigel Jarman wrote: > I'll post a full report of "Robyn's Bus Tour" next week. If Woj is > interested I'll take a load of photo's, get 'em scanned in, and we > could add a virtual bus tour to the Fegmaniax Web Page. I'm sure that every Fegmainiac will be forever in your debt if you attempt such a project. It will undoubtedly be a lot of work -- but just think of the worldwide good karma you'll generate! Go to it! -Nick P.S. I wonder if Robyn would support such a venure, given his recent IRC interview and impending Warner Bros web site? Maybe you could get preferential access (...a bus pass?). On the other hand, if he's still anti-internet he might drive right past your stop without picking you up! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:33:05 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Anorakmania On Thu, 8 Aug 1996 RxBroome@aol.com wrote: > MG: "Do you really not have anoraks in the US of A? > Well, yes, we have them, and we call them lots of things, but "Anorak" isn't > one of the things we call them. My very American Webster's Collegiate calls > it a synonym for "parka", notes the word's origins as "Greenland Esk." (which > I think would be "Greenland Esqu." for you Brits) and that the word is > "chiefly British". MG ripostes: "Esk." is fine in English, though I have a PC feeling that it should be "Inuit". "Esquimaux" is another langue completement (sorry, no grave accents). Funny that the word should cross the Atlantic but not permeate southwards. > Kagools I know not... closest thing I can think of is Kangol, a > hat popular with early rappers despite its nearly exact resemblance of the > hat worn by Gilligan on "Gilligan's Island". I don't think that you could > wear it as a parka. MG again: Yes, my Dad, aged 80, has a Kangol cap, though he's not an early rapper (though come to think of it ...). It's not the same thing - kagools are really plasticky lightweight anoraks. I have been doing some serious research here, and have come up with the following quote from the '10cc Fan Club Page' (http://www.pacifier.com/~mikes/10cc/hhustler.html): "Yes, we're giving away ten copies of the Feel the Benefit CD single as sold on the last tour. Plus there's the star prize of a rare tour jacket from the Deceptive Bends tour. The jacket is made of kagool material and is ideal for sweating in. It's available in one size very very small. Everyone will be so jealous when you wear it at the concerts". Sounds groovy - can't think why I didn't enter. The only other reference I could find related to a net.goth outing at where the goths were complaining about being photographed by people in kagools. You have goths, right? Or not right? - MG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 12:54 PDT From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) Subject: Anoraknophobia I live in Canada, and we definitely use the word anorak over here. It refers to a wind-breaker-like garment with no opening at the front, that must be pulled on over the head. They usually have hoods, and a big pocket, and are often made of denim. Daniel Saunders Life is heaven and hell. All else is silence. - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:40:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Anoraknophobia > I live in Canada, and we definitely use the word anorak over here. It > refers to a wind-breaker-like garment with no opening at the front, that > must be pulled on over the head. > Daniel Saunders Oh, is that the same as a poncho? I've never seen a denim one, just plastic. They usually sell them at amusement parks on rainy days. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:33:55 -0700 From: glen@net5.com (Glen Uber) Subject: Re: Sven - that's a nice name At 16:14 06.08.96 +1100, James Dignan wrote: >So, he says, puzzling over "nei nei nei OK yeah", is Robyn popular is >Sweden? Or did he just do this to be peculiar? Or maybe for those of us who >are also fans of the Church? Last week someone asked which group would we like to see backing Robyn. Now that he's singing in Swedish, how about ABBA or Ace of Base? Just kidding (slightly). BTW, weren't the Shocking Blue ("Venus") also Swedish, or were they Dutch? Does anyone know or care? Cheers, --g "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals; I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." --A. Whitney Brown Glen E. Uber Web Weaver/Information Superhighway Chauffeur Tel +1 707 585 1470 Fax +1 707 585 0366 Pgr +1 707 973 0237 glen@net5.com http://net5.com/~glen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | NET5.COM | | Internet Presence & Network | | Service Providers | | 5715 Redwood Drive | | Rohnert Park, CA 94928, USA | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:34:00 -0700 From: glen@net5.com (Glen Uber) Subject: Re: An Englishman in New York At 16:31 06.08.96 +1100, James Dignan wrote: >(and how many of you spot the musical reference in the subject line?) I do, but I'm not sure if you're referring to Sting or Godley and Creme. Cheers, Cheers, --g "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals; I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." --A. Whitney Brown Glen E. Uber Web Weaver/Information Superhighway Chauffeur Tel +1 707 585 1470 Fax +1 707 585 0366 Pgr +1 707 973 0237 glen@net5.com http://net5.com/~glen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | NET5.COM | | Internet Presence & Network | | Service Providers | | 5715 Redwood Drive | | Rohnert Park, CA 94928, USA | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:58:38 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: hmm...... Eh, nice little anagram story! Can't scroll all the way back to where it is, so I forget who wrote it, but my compliments to the lady or gentleman. Did you come up with those yourself or did you use Karma Manager? As per anorak- I've lived in the US all my life ('cept for a few months in France) and I have heard the word anorak. Seems what is called an anorak across the herring pond is something we might call a poncho over here- or have I misunderstood? Anyway I've heard the word before but it isn't common. Seems to me I had a knit one back in the palmy seventies. And finally- MG, yes, unfortunately we do have Goths over here. Since I've already embarrassed my self by admitting that I used to own a knitted poncho, I might as well go a step further and admit that at ages 13-14 I actually burned a lot of candles and incense, listened constantly to Bauhaus and Joy Division and wore black lipstick (I also had an asymmetric haircut, which so distressed my female parental that she sneaked up behind me one day when I was on the phone and started chopping at it to make it even :)). Anyone else have confessions of this nature to make? Another self-indulgent bulletin from your friend- Susan P.S. The radio station where I work just received "Moss Elixir" today. YAHOO! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 17:56:48 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: I forgot to add..... BTW- To the trivia-minded feg who asked about Captain Sensible: As far as I know there are three songs by the Captain that list Robyn as a co-writer (my impression is that he only wrote the lyrics, but did assist in the playing of the musical parts, if not the writing). They can be found on a sort of greatest hits comp. called "A Day in The Life of Captain Sensible". They are: It's Hard to Believe I'm Not Brenda (Parts 1&2) I'm A Spider This last also lists a "T. Mansfield" as co-writer. Anyone know who that refers to? Anyway, I don't really know as I would recommend this particular platter to RH fans, unless they are completists. It's pretty much treacly early 80s synth pop (note to CS fans- hope yer not offended, don't take this personally please :)), although I'll admit to enjoying "Wot" :). Brenda does have a typically RH brilliant/tender lyric- I've been working on a two guitar slower ballad-type arrangement of it fer me own demo (don't hold yer breath :)). Susan ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:04:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Goths (non-Robyn) >I might as well go a step further and admit that at ages 13-14 I actually >burned a lot of candles and incense, listened constantly to Bauhaus and Joy >Division and wore black lipstick (I also had an asymmetric haircut, which so >distressed my female parental that she sneaked up behind me one day when I >was on the phone and started chopping at it to make it even :)). Anyone else >have confessions of this nature to make? > >Susan Tack Lords of the New Church and Sisters of Mercy on to that list, and up the ages by 3 or 4 years. Although the Goth crowd certainly idolizes Joy Division, I hate to include them on the list. Ian Curtis never struck me as pretentious, like Peter Murphy. He seems closer in spirit to Lou Reed. Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:47:29 +0100 From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Subject: Anorakmania Rex writes > Mike asks: > "Do you really not have anoraks in the US of A? During the mod > era, they were also known as parkas, and there is a similar garment called > a kagool(?). Are these all unknown, or do you just call them something > different?" > > Well, yes, we have them, and we call them lots of things, but "Anorak" isn't > one of the things we call them. My very American Webster's Collegiate calls > it a synonym for "parka", notes the word's origins as "Greenland Esk." (which > I think would be "Greenland Esqu." for you Brits) and that the word is > "chiefly British". Anorak tends to mean a garment that is made of quilted nylon. I think it's probably best if the outbreak is confined to the UK since it will make it easier to deal with. > is a record just for US-- it's like a fan club release > or something, y'know?-- so let's enjoy it as such. And it beats the hell out > of "Invisible Hitchcock". And what's wrong with "Invisible Hitchcock" then. I must say I didn't listen to it much when I had the vinyl version but since I got the CD I listen to it all the time. (Obviously I skip Trash since it is cak.) I especially like Mr Deadly, Mystic Trip, Abandoned Brain and Falling Leaves (even if the brass bit is a tad cheesy). So just have a mind young fella-mi-lad next time you consider making such a flip comment. Hamish ("Only joking - or am I?" - Vic Reeves) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 13:30:34 -0500 From: Jay Brownlee Subject: Re: Daniel Johnston (100% Robyn-free) At 10:59 AM 8/8/96 -0400, you wrote: > >I was wondering if there are any Daniel Johnston fans out there, his >eccentricity and life affirming/gut wrenchin/beautiful songs seem to >maybe appeal to fans of these lists. I am a Daniel Johnston fan and I am 'out there' too. I have even had the rarest of pleasures seeing him play at a music festival back in 1991 in Dallas and as far as I know, that was his last public singin' experience. It was beautiful, though. Apparently, Daniel lives with his mum up the road from me about 90 miles in Austin and avoids public exposure first-hand. >If so, I'd be interested in aquiring more of Danny J.'s stuff (especially >his earlier years). I have "Hi, How Are You?" and "Yip/Jump Music" along >with the album he made with Jad Fair. Any help would be greatly >appreciated, thanks. His most recent effort was called "Fun!" and had several of the Butthole Surfers backing him up- and it is a typically nice record with all the songs about monsters and disappearing loves that haunt his other works. Also, check out K. McCarty's "Dead Dog's Eyeball" tribute record to Daniel Johnston- her velvet voice lends a lovely aspect to Daniel's songs- and it is also quite an awesome record. If you are into mail ordering, I do not have the phone number of Waterloo Records in Austin, but the area code is 512, and I can just about promise they will have what you want. Give 'em a call. Yip. Jay ------------------------------ From: Livia Subject: RE: Anorakmania Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:59:08 -0700 hamish simpson wrote: > Obviously I skip Trash since it is cak.) which only goes to show that nothing is obvious, and there is someone out there ready to disagree with whatever anyone might say. because of course trash is a great song, one of my two or three favorites on IH, and hamish is a big old cakhead for not liking it :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .