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Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- MOSS ELIXER tracklist Moss Elixir Re: Moss Elixir self indulgencies Why Caroline Hates Mailing Lists why Caroline loves Susan publishing company Re: Feg Digest V4 #139 Re: Moss Elixir self indulgencies Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Re: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Moss Elixir: 1st impressions Re: Moss Elixir: 1st impressions RE: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Devil's Radio/Nickelodeon RE: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Mossy Liquor CD? similarities/Liquor Mossy Liquor CD? Re: Mossy Liquor CD? Re: Mossy Liquor CD? Re: Mossy Liquor CD? Heaven Re: Wimborne Chase CMJ review of Moss Elixir Re: Heaven Re: Heaven Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir eye, me, mine. (long & boring) hearsay... Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir CMJ review (me n my opinions n a dog named boo) Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:34:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: MOSS ELIXER tracklist for russ and others intersted: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:38:21 BST From: Jonathan Turner >Subject: linden arden's 12 bar elixir At 11:02 AM 11/6/96 -0800, Russ Reynolds wrote: >still waiting for an answer on the "Who was Linden Arden" question, if >anyone can fill me in. P'raps he was one of the dogs on the cover? There's a street off Notting Hill Gate called "Linden Gardens." Van does occasionally use street names in his songs (Ladbroke Grove, Cypress Avenue, Lonely Avenue, St Dominic's Pre View, etc) - maybe he spotted this one, lit by a car's headlights, while he was wandering home late one night. And street signs in London do occasionally lose letters.... But seriously, folks: I've been passed on a track listing for the new album - "Moss Elixir" (WEA 9362 46302-2): 1. sinister but happy devil's radio heliotrope alright yeah a happy bird is a filthy bird speed of things 2 beautiful queen man with a woman's shadow i am not me de chiraco st you and oblivion this is how it feels No other details, sorry. And also: Robyn back at the 12-Bar in London: August 6, 13, 20; September 3, 10. All Tuesdays. 0171 209 2248. UKP7.50 Jonathan. "You know that low frequency lobster radar deep in the bottom of the ocean ? I've got some of that." - Brian Wilson, 1995. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 17:27:52 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: Moss Elixir Thanks for posting the Moss Elixir tracklist, Johnathan :). No questions about what was left off except.........I had kinda hoped for perhaps some kinda souped-up version of "Trilobyte". Alas, it is not to be. As for the other Mossy Liquor tracks that did not appear, I can completely understand why (except for "Each of Her Silver Wands", which I actually quite like, so I'm glad I bought the thing). Incidentally, my copy of it sounds quite ok, cleaner than quite a few of my cds in fact. So it's got to be a turntable thing, or perhaps a few of the copies were messed up, who knows? And yeah, I noticed the cover photo's "Walls and Bridges" resemblance too, specially the lovely hairdo ;). When I first saw it I thought it looked disturbingly familiar to me but couldn't exactly put my finger on why, so now I know. Thanks to whoever pointed it out. Goes along with a general marked Lennon influence throughout the record, and indeed the whole recorded output of Mr. Deadly, granted- but it's REALLY obvious here. The one track that sounds heavily marked by the influence of poor Roger Keith didn't even make the "real album" cut, I am saddened to observe. Two notes to share: a) A person who is reading over my shoulder and was present at the unveiling of "Mossy Liquor" in our humble abode reminds me that we DID hear some strange rattling and popping noises when the record was first played. After considerable confusion we discovered that the noise was in fact caused by a rattling heating grate that happened to be near one of the speakers :). b) Yesterday I got to meet Lyle Lovett. Susan who thinks Mr. Lovett was much more gracious than he had to be- for example, he did not have to invite Sting to perform with him. charity has its limits. ------------------------------ From: s618621@aix2.uottawa.ca Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Moss Elixir self indulgencies On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Truman Peyote wrote: > > Thanks for posting the Moss Elixir tracklist, Johnathan :). > No questions about what was left off except.........I had kinda hoped for > perhaps some kinda souped-up version of "Trilobyte". Alas, it is not to be. > As for the other Mossy Liquor tracks that did not appear, I can completely > understand why (except for "Each of Her Silver Wands", which I actually quite > like, so I'm glad I bought the thing). Incidentally, my copy of it sounds > quite ok, cleaner than quite a few of my cds in fact. So it's got to be a > turntable thing, or perhaps a few of the copies were messed up, who knows? > And yeah, I noticed the cover photo's "Walls and Bridges" resemblance too, > specially the lovely hairdo ;). When I first saw it I thought it looked > disturbingly familiar to me but couldn't exactly put my finger on why, so now > I know. Thanks to whoever pointed it out. Goes along with a general marked > Lennon influence throughout the record, and indeed the whole recorded output > of Mr. Deadly, granted- but it's REALLY obvious here. The one track that > sounds heavily marked by the influence of poor Roger Keith didn't even make > the "real album" cut, I am saddened to observe. > Two notes to share: > a) A person who is reading over my shoulder and was present at the unveiling > of "Mossy Liquor" in our humble abode reminds me that we DID hear some > strange rattling and popping noises when the record was first played. After > considerable confusion we discovered that the noise was in fact caused by a > rattling heating grate that happened to be near one of the speakers :). > b) Yesterday I got to meet Lyle Lovett. > > Susan > who thinks Mr. Lovett was much more gracious than he had to be- for example, > he did not have to invite Sting to perform with him. charity has its limits. > > or in a nutshell... i had...i can...i actually...i'm glad...my copy...i noticed...i first saw...i thought...i know...i am saddened...i got to meet... remarkable. let's see if anyone can top this, shall we? caroline, pointing out why she in fact hates mailing lists. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 19:02:21 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: Why Caroline Hates Mailing Lists Ok, I'll top it. I was responding to complaints about the sound quality of the record when I observed that mine was fine. I was responding to other people's opinions previously posted concerning track listings, song quality, etc. I was also responding to comments made by other listmembers concerning Lennon, John, influence thereof. As for the Lyle Lovett thing, well I was merely gloating, and perhaps I wanted to share this information with others who might also be fans of his :). In future, I will remember to post no personal observations about anything since I do not wish to make enemies, especially of others on the list. Cordially yours, the feglist solipsist :) ------------------------------ From: s618621@aix2.uottawa.ca Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: why Caroline loves Susan aah, my darling susan, i lost my head for a moment, please let's not fight. especially out in the open like this. we must not disturb the sleeping fegs. i must say though that i find your posts, susan, to be most informative, and interesting. please do not feel the need to squash any future insights. the more, the better, i say! enough already, caroline. meow. "Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so... And moreover my mother taught me as a boy 'Ever to confess you're bored means you have no Inner Resources.'" john berryman ------------------------------ From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:13:29 -0400 Subject: publishing company I have a feeling that there's going to be a bit more of Robyn on the radio, 'cause he's changed, or at least re-named his publishing company, which leads me to suspect he's finally not sharing the royalties on this one. The pre-hype Warners flyers were sending the music to College and Adult Alternative Radio, with "Alright, Yeah" apparently the lead single. Adult Alternative Radio, can't wait to hear him right after the new Hootie and the Blowfish track. Jim DeRogatis was so right, and screw Rolling Stone for firing him (Jann Wenner objected to his denouncing opinion of the Hootie LP and off with Jim's head 'cause he didn't know anything about music. He was also brought on to make the magazine more "cutting edge", which would of course be the correct reason for giving Hootie the thumbs up." humbly, Carl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:52:31 +1100 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Feg Digest V4 #139 > Tracy "on the road with an electric blanket, a lamp, a clock >radio, and a Kirby vacuum cleaner" Copeland what, no toaster? James ------------------------------ From: "Brian Huddell" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:19:38 +0000 Subject: Re: Moss Elixir self indulgencies > remarkable. > let's see if anyone can top this, shall we? > caroline, pointing out why she in fact hates mailing lists. Then please, by all means, piss off. You've responded to a cheerful and well-intended albeit long-winded post with a hateful, hurtful, even more long-winded post (since you quoted the original in its entirety). Susan's crime was, at most, a lack of economy. You're just nasty. Really, go away. Go all the way away. Brian ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:32:33 -0400 Subject: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys In a message dated 96-07-29 15:56:56 EDT, blob@halcyon.com writes: >>I am curious to see how Warner Bros. will promote RH. I would like to be >>able to go into a store, and find his music - but I don't want an all >>out media blitz where I see him everywhere (ie the RH Happy Meal at >>McDonalds with a free plastic toy inside - although it would be funny). > >Now what do you suppose that plastic toy would be? Furry Green Atom Bowl..........action figures of The Man With the Lightbulb Head, The Man Who Invented Himself; Queen of Eyes, Mucky the Pig.......... ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 10:08:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark >>Now what do you suppose that plastic toy would be? > >Furry Green Atom Bowl..........action figures of The Man With the Lightbulb >Head, The Man Who Invented Himself; Queen of Eyes, Mucky the Pig.......... Of course, the meal contains the scrumptious "Strawberry Mind" dessert! -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 13:25:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Moss Elixir: 1st impressions received an advance copy of the CD today...Overall a very enjoyable disc. Of the songs featured on the vinyl release, Beautiful Queen comes out way ahead...electrified and psychedelicized, the way I like it. (EYE lovers will probably hate it). DeChirico Street is improved on as well, with the exception of some overdone saxes. Heliotrope, though basically the same as the vinyl version, comes off sounding even more beautiful on the CD. However, the vinyl version of Devil's Radio is the better of the two, IMO...I thought DR could've been beefed up into a single, but I don't hear it with this mix. Alright Yeah will make a fine single instead. Here's hoping Warner Brothers does a better job working this than A&M did with...well, anything. Of the tunes that weren't on Mossy, "I Am Not Me" is the only rocker...unfortunately it doesn't really go anywhere...no middle eight and no drums--Morris is sorely missed here. "Woman's Shadow" is identical to the K single, and the rest of the new tunes are basically typical acoustic Robyn Hitchcock tunes (EYE lovers will probably like them). The cover is an upside down drawing of a duck (or is it a rightside up drawing of an upside down duck?)...orange outline on an IODOT-green background. Don't know if the actual release will have this same cover, though. in other words: I recieved...I enjoy...I like...I thought...I Am Not...I don't hear...IMO...I hope...I don't know...I'm naked...me, me, me. Sorry if this spoils anyone's day. -russ. ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:18:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Moss Elixir: 1st impressions > in other words: I recieved...I enjoy...I like...I thought...I Am Not...I > don't hear...IMO...I hope...I don't know...I'm naked...me, me, me. Sorry > if this spoils anyone's day. > > -russ. You forgot ...I Often Dream of Trains... Aaron ------------------------------ From: "A. David Wright" Subject: RE: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:31:01 -0600 Don't forget Zoom - The Semi Dog! (you turn him sideways on and he's invisible). ------------------------------ From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:35:41 -0400 Subject: Devil's Radio/Nickelodeon Is it just me or does that bit on "Devil's Radio", na, na, na, na, na sound like the theme song for the Nickelodeon show Clarissa Explains it All? Perhaps it's just another odd parallel. And before you ask, it's just that as a writer, I have some freetime on my hands at times. Could Hitchcock be running out of ideas for melody and be lifting them so blatantly from teenage television? I remain, Tartan Keats ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:38:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: RE: Robyn McDonald's Happy Meal Toys On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, A. David Wright wrote: > Don't forget Zoom - The Semi Dog! (you turn him sideways on and he's invisible). Where's this from? I know that I've heard it before... Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ------------------------------ From: "Brian Huddell" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:44:28 +0000 Subject: Mossy Liquor CD? Hi Fegs, One has been thinking lately about the scarcity of turntables in one's home, and the effect that is going to have on one's enjoyment of Mossy Liquor. Some of you have complained about the sound quality of the lp. Well imagine how it will sound to one, once one has secured a copy, without a turntable! One suspects it will sound bloody useless to one. But one has an idea. Perhaps this has been suggested before. If so, please forgive one. Is there any chance of a having a limited number of CD copies burned, with the idea that they be available only to those who have purchased the lp (one suggests photographing oneself holding a copy of the lp). And the money is worked out in such a way that no one profits, etc... One has presented the stupid idea so that those of you who know about such things can explain to one why it won't work. One thanks you in advance. Peace, Brian P.S. One met the guys in Midnight Oil about a month ago. It was very cool. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:31:01 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: similarities/Liquor in one of his radio interviews at one time, Robyn said he would like Roger McGuinn to record "Arms of Love" (Robyn & co then proceeded to play "Eight miles high"). But... last night I was listening to some CDs, played me some 'Dr Byrds and Mr Hyde' and then IODOT. And "Sleeping Knights of Jesus" suddenly struck me as being very, very Byrdsian. BTW - I believe that Roger McGuinn is quite a noisy e-mailer, and is ISTR a frequent correspondent with the Byrds mailing list... has anyone asked him what he thinks of Robyn's music (or even if he knows of it)? I also happened to listen to some Pentangle... anyone else notice the similarity between "The bones in the ground" and Pentangle's song "Rain and Snow"? (and to those of you who haven't heard any Pentangle - WHY NOT??? :) --- >>1) UK Fegs please comment (I've been living in the US for too long now!): >>As an ex-pat Brit, "Liquor" looks American to me, but I can't quite put >>my finger on why. The only association I have now is that of alcoholic >>beverages (engl. "distilled spirits"). Am I confused? Is there another >>spelling? Is Robyn making an american reference or does this seem >>perfectly english to you? >I think that, over here, the word "liquor" is only used in a technical or >legal sense (as in "Licensed to sell alcoholic liquors and beverages"). We >would normally say "drink", "booze", "alcohol", "spirits", or the actual >name of the drink. The vendor is always an "Off-licence", never a "Liquor >store" - an off-licence being a licence to take the stuff away, as opposed >to consuming it on the premises. I agree that liquor is rarely used as a term for alcoholic beverages. The nearest you commonly hear to it in the UK (or in this part of the world, for that matter) is 'liqueur', for those evil but delicious refined spiritous substances like Baileys, Kahlua and Drambuie (BTW, mixing the three in the right quantities gives you a nice wee number I call a Wolfhound). James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ From: avarice@getnet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: Mossy Liquor CD? Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 05:37:21 GMT Well, before I get on with my post I would like to say 'hello again' to all the old-time fegs. I used to be on (and off) here actually since 1990 or so (I think this was up back then). It's doubtful that many people will recognize me except for a few that I probably owe tapes... if I owe anyone tapes please feel free to e-mail me and I'd be happy to try and accomodate you. If I don't owe you tapes, consider yourself warned.. :) On Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:44:28 +0000, "Brian Huddell" wrote: >Hi Fegs, > >One has been thinking lately about the scarcity of turntables in >one's home, and the effect that is going to have on one's enjoyment >of Mossy Liquor. Some of you have complained about the sound >quality of the lp. Well imagine how it will sound to one, once one >has secured a copy, without a turntable! One suspects it will sound >bloody useless to one. I was fortunately close to being in this situation. I hadn't been to the web page (much less read Fegmaniax) in a few months and I forgot about the late-July release of Mossy Liquor. I signed back up and got a message complaining about the vinyl quality... so I rushed out to my local record store that carries vinyl and low-and-behold there it was. Blew my last six dollars and went home. I had given away my cheap Quasar record player quite a while ago and have never even listened to my K Records single (but I do have that My Wife.. CD). What to do? Fortunately I remembered that one of my friends (but not one of my best friends, which are all quite digital people) had a fairly good record player (and is a little fanatical about it) and my roomate had just purchased a minidisc walkman (next time Robyn comes to town!) so I stole one of my friend's blank minidiscs and called this guy up (I help him out with computer stuff a lot since it's sort of my job).. he wasn't doing anything so I drove over, patched into his system - set it up to record and put on the lp. So after only having it for less than an hour, I've ended up with a digital copy (sound quality wise, quite good)... there is unfortunately quite a bit of surface noise and some pops (the first side sounds worse).. I think it might be because it was brand new, only played once - The record looked quite staticy, but the recording will definately do for now. Definately more convinient than the lp or tape... I can hit those ever-cool track forward and backward buttons. The moral: A mini-disc walkman and a vinyl-loving audio-dinosaur friend are all you need in the world. >so, please forgive one. Is there any chance of a having a limited >number of CD copies burned, with the idea that they be available only There is some place on the net that makes CDs from tapes/minidiscs/dat etc. they'll make a single CD for $35. I guess you'd still need a tape of it.. -Qrys ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:11:10 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Mossy Liquor CD? >There is some place on the net that makes CDs from tapes/minidiscs/dat >etc. they'll make a single CD for $35. I guess you'd still need a >tape of it.. Aren't these folks worried about copyright infringement? Brett ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 02:41:36 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Mossy Liquor CD? On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Brett Cooper wrote: > >There is some place on the net that makes CDs from tapes/minidiscs/dat > >etc. they'll make a single CD for $35. > > Aren't these folks worried about copyright infringement? > And doesn't a cheap turntable cost under $35 anyway? Tracy "in gardens of toast" Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 00:23:01 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Mossy Liquor CD? >> Aren't these folks worried about copyright infringement? >> > And doesn't a cheap turntable cost under $35 anyway? > > Tracy "in gardens of toast" Copeland However, if you buy a cheap turntable, your "Mossy Liquor" album may sound just like what you have put into it--cheap, not to mention the possibility of damaging your vinyl record with crappy needles and being dissapointed with the low resolution it brings out. My advice is: if you are someone with crap for a turntable, DO NOT PLAY "MOSSY LIQUOR" ON IT UNTIL YOU INVEST IN BETTER EQUIPMENT. Save yourself money in the long-run. Save yourself the heartache of damaging your vinyl record. Brettie ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:44:46 +0100 Subject: Heaven I notice from the archives that this question has already been asked (although with no visible answer) but I am looking for the lyrics of the end of Heaven (the Kershaw live version is all I have). Here is my guess. Does anyone disagree. You've got faults to walk, antelopes Son to call the eye on you - especially doubtful Pastel curtains drawing open Fingers, hairs and follicules - why does he always say follicUles Memories and antidotes Single walls that crawl towards her Use your arms, and use your heaven And then walk for your arms Ta Hamish (Must be mad to be insane) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:50:58 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Wimborne Chase I wrote to James (me, personally, myself, I me mine etc): > >Robert Fripp used to come > >up to Bath at one time and try out new lineups at Moles Club: I > >saw the League of Gentlemen and the 'Discipline' Crimson band > >there. It would be good if he was playing at a fossil fair. On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, James Dignan replied: >=20 > there's a new > album out of old live League of Gentlemen material, with the unlikely nam= e > of Thrang Thrang Gozinbulx. Pretty good stuff! MG replies: Hey! Someone mentioned Sara Lee appearing on an RH performance and I couldn't place the name - but of course she was in the League of Gentlemen. I saw her again in a band with someone from the Gang of 4, but I can't remember what they were called.=20 But the really weird thing (sychronicity, Jung, happenstance etc) is that when I typed =A31 (Pounds 1) James received it as =3DA31) and James Dignan wrote: > I guessed that's what it was - but IIRC, from when I lived in the UK many > moons back, the A31 probably is in southwest somewhere... It is!! Not only is the A31 in the south-west, it goes straight through Wimborne on its way from London to Dorchester! Internet character incompatibility must have a hidden meaning! Hand me my pyramid-measuring rod, my dodman's ley-surveying wands and my hazel twig... - Mike Godwin (me) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:11:41 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: CMJ review of Moss Elixir Fegs, I'm bummed. The review of Moss Elixir was scathing in the monthly music mag called CMJ. I can't believe the reviewer evened listened to the record. Here's a quick transcription: "Robyn Hitchcock is plain eccentric, and nobody's about to dispute that. But it used to be that he could get away with it. His lyrics had ridiculous ideas and ludicrous rhymes, but he seemed to toss them off effortlessly, and every so often their absurdity would somehow get through to something real and meaningful. And his songs were awfully repetitive, but at least they were catchy, and he usually had the amazing rhythym section of the Soft Boys and, later, the Egyptians to back up his guitar virtuosity and verbal improvisations ("When I see the girl that I love best/Iwanna go home and take off my vest!"). Now Robyn's on his own, occasionally with a couple of nobodies behind him, and mostly limiting his guitar playing to some perfunctory strumming. The result: his most dismall record since 1982's disastrous Groovy Decay. The big problem is that his songwriting muse seems to have mostly deserted him: the jokes seem forced, the melodies go nowhere. There are some okay lines ("I gotta split/It's a quaint old-fashioned way to leave the room"), but none of the imaginative leaps that made Hitchcock great - most of the the time he just soundss like a batty old "Englishman on autopilot. Douglas Wolk." I really do hate critics. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:15:13 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Heaven On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 HAMISH_SIMPSON@hp-unitedkingdom-om4.om.hp.com wrote: > I notice from the archives that this question has already been asked (although > with no visible answer) but I am looking for the lyrics of the end of Heaven (the > Kershaw live version is all I have). Here is my guess. Does anyone disagree. MG: Thanks for having a shot at this. My comments are as follows: > You've got faults to walk, antelopes MG: 'Faults' doesn't make sense to me (assuming that sense is an objective...) > Son to call the eye on you - especially doubtful MG: I had always assumed it was 'Sun' (no way of telling, though) > Pastel curtains drawing open MG: Brilliant! I would never have got 'pastel' > Fingers, hairs and follicules - why does he always say follicUles Illiteracy? Or is it a local dialect pronunciation? ('Hur hur, I know 'ee, young Mars'r Hitchcock, you'm been plucking at they follicules again') The rest looks more or less right to me, if only I knew what it meant. Incidentally, does anyone have a different version of this spoken bit? As noted previously, the GLTHO and Kershaw cuts are from the same performance, though I think there was some doubt about whether they had been remixed. - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ From: HAMISH_SIMPSON@HP-UnitedKingdom-om4.om.hp.com Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 15:38:19 +0100 Subject: Re: Heaven > MG: Thanks for having a shot at this. My comments are as follows: > > > You've got faults to walk, antelopes > > MG: 'Faults' doesn't make sense to me (assuming that sense is an > objective...) HS: Could it be as in Continental faults? > > > Son to call the eye on you - especially doubtful > > MG: I had always assumed it was 'Sun' (no way of telling, though) HS: I'm still not happy with the rest of the line. > > > Pastel curtains drawing open > > MG: Brilliant! I would never have got 'pastel' HS: My wife got that one (my ears are on the way out due to too much loud music). > > > Fingers, hairs and follicules - why does he always say follicUles > > Illiteracy? Or is it a local dialect pronunciation? ('Hur hur, I know 'ee, > young Mars'r Hitchcock, you'm been plucking at they follicules again') HS: It was just that he says "follicUles" on "That's when your heartache etc." (a truly excellent middle 8) on Portland Arms. I really hate to be picky, all my friends will tell you, honest, no really. If I can get the lyrics of this sorted it stands a good chance of joining the live set of my band. (I couldn't sell them on Brendas Iron Sledge unfortunately.) Hamish (whose hyperthallamus is indeed open to the rain) P.S. I should mention what a nice, unassuming mailing list this is. Especially compared to the bass players newsgroups I subscribe to, where everyone is either out to impress or offend. You lovely lovely people. XXX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Michael Brage wrote: > I really do hate critics. Look, Douglas Wolk is a human being. Maybe he *actually didn't like* the album. Everyone on the list has a Robyn album they don't like much... remember your disappointment the first time you heard it? Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir The thing about this review is it seems to miss the point that the record is a collection of outtakes and prototypes. Given that, a bit more forgiveness might be in order. I haven't hear the record so I can't comment on how good or bad it is, but a few thoughts: > to something real and meaningful. And his songs were awfully repetitive, > but at least they were catchy, sound like any other groups we know? perhaps beginning with "b" and ending with "tles"? > virtuosity and verbal improvisations ("When I see the girl that I love > best/Iwanna go home and take off my vest!"). memory fails.. what's this from? > guitar playing to some perfunctory strumming. The result: his most > dismall record since 1982's disastrous Groovy Decay. i will refrain from comment as i know i am the only person in the world who likes _Decay_. > I really do hate critics. the thing about critizing an artist is, either you do have an emotional invenstment in the person, or you don't... which could lead to dissapointment or indifference, respectively. At least in this case the reviewer shows the former if anything, which perhaps indicates he does place stock in RH, if not in this platter of odds and ends. byard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: eye, me, mine. (long & boring) > > in other words: I recieved...I enjoy...I like...I thought...I Am Not...I > > don't hear...IMO...I hope...I don't know...I'm naked...me, me, me. > > You forgot ...I Often Dream of Trains... actually, RH is one of the most self-conscious and self-centered guys around. this is not complete, and probably should die right now or sooner, but check it out: (source: The Robyn Hitchcock Songlist, version 3.0, January 1996) ` Song titles with an explicit first-person perspective: 24+ 14 "I..." 6 "my..." 5 "..me..." 2 "When I..." 2 "...I..." ALL I WANNA DO IS FALL IN LOVE (`i)A I AM NOT ME (`) I DON'T KNOW WHY (!Atlanta 85) I DREAMED I SAW ST. AUGUSTINE (!WV 5.3.92) I GOT A MESSAGE FOR YOU (`i)R an "English reproduction song". I GOT THE HOTS (`um)S I GOTTA SPLIT (Modern Rock Live 92)(Released as 'Alright Yeah')R I LIKE BANANAS (BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BONES) (=Yacich)(`sb)S I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS (`t)R I SAW HER STANDING THERE (=Beatles)(!bord 5.89)N I SAW MY DINNER ON TV ($J. Hegley and the Poptitians)(12" EP)R,M I SOMETHING YOU (sg)(`!94)R I THOUGHT I SAW SOMEBODY ELSE(`!ny 90)R See CHAIN MARY TO THE BED I USED TO SAY I LOVE YOU (`92 +t)R I WANNA APPRECIATE YOU (see APPRECIATE YOU) I WANNA DESTROY YOU (`um,ft)(~Replacements, Uncle Tupelo, Other Days, Mood Six, Let's Talk About Girls, many others)S I WANNA GO BACKWARDS (`^79)S I WANT TO BE AN ANGLEPOISE LAMP (`cb)S The only track to surface from the 'Legendary' Radar Sessions. The single released in '78 has different lyrics. I WATCH THE CARS (`bs)A Recorded the day John Lennon was shot. I'M A SPIDER ($Sensible/Hitchcock) RH drawings on single sleeve. I'M A VERY BIG HOUSE ()M I'M AN OLD PERVERT (see OLD PERVERT) I'M ONLY YOU (`f)E IF I COULD LOOK (yo)R IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT Rewritten by Sensible into "The Ballad of Shula and Mark," a tribute to "The Archers" radio soap. LET ME PUT IT NEXT TO YOU (`ih)S MY DEAD RELATIONS (`#kusf 04.02.93)R MY EARTHLY PARADISE (`pi)E Earth day every day! MY EVALINE (=arr. Hall)(@pa)S MY FAVOURITE BUILDINGS (`i,+t) A/R 'i' version with harmonica. MY WIFE AND MY DEAD WIFE (`f,ld)R/E Based on a movie based on Noel Coward's play _Blithe Spirit_. 'Dennis' substituted for 'Robyn' in later (post '90) performances. SHAPE I'M IN, THE (=^The Band)D TAKE A CHANCE WITH ME (=Roxy Music) (`fc)R TAKE ME TO HEART (see DO RIGHT MAN...)N (7th st.3.8.89) TAKE THE LOCK OFF MY FRONT DOOR (!3.15.89)N TAKE YOUR KNIFE OUT OF MY BACK (yo)R TED, WOODY, AND JUNIOR (e)E Based on a photograph seen in an old "muscle building" (gay) magazine. "*I'm* not gay, I just went to good schools." (va 10.23.90) TONIGHT I'M IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE ()M TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DRUGS (`+el)E WHEN I WAS A KID (`ih, gD, gd(demo), &love poisoning, flexi in BOB 1, etc)S,A Perhaps more versions than any other song by RH. WHEN I WAS DEAD (`r, Andy's edit on s)E "All it is is what's there." WHICH OF US IS ME (`1978 outtake, &give it to the sb 7")S WISH I HAD MY BABY (=J Brown)(pa)S Of course, a healthy, powerful ego and self-concept are good things to have, n'est-ce pas? ------------------------------ From: Michael Martin Subject: hearsay... Date: Thu, 01 Aug 96 07:49:00 PDT I read the following in the 7/26/96 issue of BAM magazine... "Film director Jonathan Demme's next project will be a full-blown documentary on the wacky and wonderful Robyn Hitchcock, whose new Warner Bros. release will be in store August 13th..." mikemart@wonderware.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:55:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir > > virtuosity and verbal improvisations ("When I see the girl that I love > > best/Iwanna go home and take off my vest!"). > > memory fails.. what's this from? > Portland Arms. That Elvis one..yeah.."All Shook Up" Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 21:33:29 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: CMJ review (me n my opinions n a dog named boo) Hmm........which issue of CMJ might that be? At the radio station where I am privileged to be jazz programmer, we get it every week, not every month. Perhaps the monthly one is for civilians :)? Anyway, the review was for "Moss Elixir" or "Mossy Liquor"? Please advise. I'd like to have a look at it in either case, obviously, but since I haven't heard "Elixir" (duh) I'd be hard pressed to evaluate the fairness of said review. That being said, I don't think that one should get down on critics as a whole just because one of them didn't happen to like Liquor/Elixir (whichever)- seems to me (here I go with opinions again), that perhaps the fellow in question was either indifferent (evaluating the record with no emotional stake whatsoever) or a disappointed fan (in which case, he is good at his job, since fans will often be a little too forgiving of artists they admire). I used to write record reviews for the college paper, so I am well aware of the catch 22 involved when good artists put out bad material. Susan An Eye-head who thinks "Beautiful Queen" is scrumptious. Go figure :). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 00:22:29 -0400 From: maybe the last real beer in america Subject: Re: CMJ review of Moss Elixir that's a very intriguing review. i know doug wolk and have found him to be the only fair reviewer in the cmj new music monthly magazine (before i stopped subscribing, his reviews were the only ones i read, in fact). he's never been afraid to call something shit when it is and his good reviews almost always lead me to excellent records. however, his review of _mossy liquor_ seems very unlike him: dismissing moris tepper as "nobody" (calling anyone "nobody" at all, for that matter) sticks out like a sore thumb, in particular. either doug *really* hates _mossy liquor_ (not out of the question: he panned the k single rather soundly) or some editor decided to tweak a few words to make it more inflamatory. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .