From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #128 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 128 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Re: Who's seen my umlauts? CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records Rockin' Violin Re: CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records Re: Rockin' Violin Re: Rockin' Violin Re: Tape Trading Re: CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records Re: Rockin' Violin RE: Rockin' Violin RE: Rockin' Violin Re: She Said, She Said Re: Rockin' Violin RE: Rockin' Violin Re: Rockin' Violin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 20:56 PDT From: upstart@mindlink.bc.ca (Renee Lynn) Subject: Re: Who's seen my umlauts? Espen wrote: > > I don't know if it is of any comfort, but the umlauts are fake on those >two >words anyway. I don't know why the band added them, now why they chose the >name to begin with, but "Husker Du" actually means something in Norwegian. It means "do you remember?" , sort of. Bcingu, Renee Lynn; the Viking. (The umlauts on Hagen Daz are fake, too, btw.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:22:37 -0700 From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts RD) Subject: CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records Husker Du means "Do You Remeber" in Norwegian, and is the name of a board game which is sort of like Concentration -- it's made of cardboard with holes in it and a disk inside which has matching pairs of various symbols printed on it. You place checkers over the holes, then turn the disk so that symbols line up with the holes, and then players take turns trying to remove checkers to get matching sets of symbols. Macalester College is actually located in St. Paul, and according to the Sugar FAQ, he works at the restaurant Table of Contents, which is across the street from Macalester -- it's the cafe associated with the great Hungry Mind Bookstore. Bob went to school at Macalester. As long as we're doing off-subject chat, I thought I'd put in a plug for Dolly Mixture. I hadn't ever heard of them up to a couple months ago, but now their CD is one of my favorites. They were an early-80s all-girl trio who did great pop songs. For instance "Ernie Ball," a love song to a lost guitar pick. There's a CD called "Demonstration Tapes" on Royal Mint, which is a label run by a Bob Stanley from St. Etienne. There's 27 great pop gems on the CD. Debsey of Dolly Mixture has sung backup for Captain Sensible (there, finally a Hitchcock connection!). They also put out several singles, but I don't have any of them. I don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but I read in one of the local weeklys a while ago that Neurotic Records is not going to be opening in a Haight St. location as was planned. Neurotic was where Robyn used to play in-store appearances when in San Francisco. Just before they closed their old location I went in a bought a copy of that comp with Robyn's version of Kung Fu Fighting on it. Larry-bob, St. Paul native, San Francisco resident. lroberts@oacis.com ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:12:41 -0400 Subject: Rockin' Violin Susan says she'shard pressed to think of any great rock violin players. No offense, but... HERESY!!! Let's start out by first appreciating all the classical string players who have enriched rock recordings-- in the early days, a risky proposition, while admittedly these days it's often to help pay the rent between legit gigs... Still, there have been MANY great full-time rock violinists. Here's my hastily compiled, DEFINITELY incomplete list. I've decided to include violists, string-based bands, and one cellist, but hey, it's MY list. Please add and ammend as you see fit. 1) John Cale (usually viola) of the Velvet Underground and solo fame. Nothing more need be said. 2) Jonathan Segel of Camper Van Beethoven. Amazing musician (also keyboards, guitar, mandolin, mandola, cittern, banjo, who knows what else) who provided the signature sound to a fantastic band. 3) Morgan Fichter, who ably replaced Jonathan Segel on Camper Van Beethoven's superb final LP, "Key Lime Pie". 4) Lisa Germano, who came to prominence on what turned out to be two anomalously good John Mellencamp albums, and now records as a solo artist for none other than 4AD. Yes, a bizarre career arc, but a considerable talent nonetheless. 5) Amanda Brown, fulltime member of the wonderful Go-Betweens in their latter years; also doubled on oboe (!) and vocals. 6) Susan Voelz of Poi Dog Pondering, who remains one of the few founding members still active in Poi Dog, alongside Frank Orall. Opened as a solo act for Poi Dog on most recent tour. 7) Vicky Aspinall of the Raincoats; also vocals and not infrequent songwriting in this most influential and wonderful of bands. 8) Anne Wood, who ably stands in for Vicky on the recent and quite fabulous Raincoats reunion album "Looking in the Shadows". 9) Shankar, the sessions guy with the crazy Indian double-necked violin who has played with everyone from Talking Heads to Peter Gabriel and Springsteen. Provided the signature sound to Echo & the Bunnymen's "Porcupine" LP (cf. the intro to "The Cutter", which was pilfered via sample not too long ago as the centerpiece of a track by the ambiaent-techno band Ultramarine). 10) Salvador Garza of overlooked Southern California treasures Downy Mildew. 11) J'Anna Jacoby of overlooked Southern California treasures the Black Watch 12) Robin & Rose of the Incredible String Band. 13) Jesse Greene, recently late of the amazing Geraldine Fibbers, also Southern California treasures, not to remain overlooked for long. I think Jesse will be / has been replaced in the lineup by another violinist-- the instrument is prevalent in the band's sound. 14) Martin Bell of the Wonderstuff during their best years. Also keyboards, mandolin, accordian, etc... and guest shots on many other records. 15) Jane Scarpantoni. Although mainly a cellist, she's provided solo strings for more great and important rock records than probably anyone else. Take a close look at the credits to the records in your collection-- you'll be astonished at how often her name crops up. Maybe most notable as sole support on Kristin Hersh's solo LP "Hips and Makers". 16) David Lindley. Multi- instrumentalist session dude who's played on as many disposibly cheesy singer-sonwriter releases as genuinely decent records; sort 'em out for yourself. 17) Kronos Quartet. Sort of falls into the jazz / avant garde category, but here's a string quartet who's been known to cover Led Zepplin's "Kasmir" and who, more importantly, contributed a tasty version of Television's "Marquee Moon" to Elektra's "Rubaiyat" compilation. 18) The folk / country / Cajun etc. axis, which has always had a pronounced give - take - steal - borrow relationship with rock music ever since the beginning. One quick example is Michel Doucet of Beausoleil, a band which has always blended traditional Cajun sounds with rock ethics. Any others? Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:19:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Trixie, Bunny, and Peaches" Subject: Re: CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Laurence Roberts RD wrote: >I don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but I read in one of the local >weeklys a while ago that Neurotic Records is not going to be opening >in a Haight St. location as was planned. Neurotic was where Robyn >used to play in-store appearances when in San Francisco. Just before >they closed their old location I went in a bought a copy of that comp >with Robyn's version of Kung Fu Fighting on it. And inquiring minds want to know why this is? where it might be? and when it will be? just my near morbid obsession with bay-area record shops... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Trixie, Bunny, and Peaches" Subject: Re: Rockin' Violin as for any others, i offer these... in the serious mode...the blanescu quartet...rockin a la jason pierce and even more serious...the charlie daniels band [sp?]...the O.G. of rockin violin... .chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 00:24 PDT From: upstart@mindlink.bc.ca (Renee Lynn) Subject: Re: Rockin' Violin >Still, there have been MANY great full-time rock violinists. Here's my >hastily compiled, DEFINITELY incomplete list. I've decided to include >violists, string-based bands, and one cellist, but hey, it's MY list. Please >add and ammend as you see fit. >Any others? > >Rex Not full-time, but does Laurie Anderson count? RLT ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 96 03:44:52 EDT From: Positive Vibrations <101356.2516@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Tape Trading > Do we even know if these "Eatons" really are robyn's crack team of > lawyers? If you're listening, Eatons, could you please explain what > exactly it is you're telling us not to do? Hi, Eaton's, if you're reading this... A few phone calls has established that Eaton's _are_ genuine lawyers specialising in the music business, who represent REM, Roger Waters and the Kinks in this country, among others. Aidan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:58:00 -0700 From: lroberts@oacis.com (Laurence Roberts RD) Subject: Re: CHAT: Husker Du, Dolly Mixture, and Neurotic Records It sounded from the article like Neurotic may not open again at all. I think the owner may still do mail-order. In other Bay-area record store news, Berkeley giant Amoeba may open a store on Haight Street in the site currently occupied by the bowling alley, but the store won't be opening for a year, if at all. Larry-bob lroberts@oacis.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:54:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Rockin' Violin > Any others? The incredibly, uncredited sessions men on the Beach Boys album "Smile" (includes cellos, violas, violins and string bass, along with sleighbells, theremin, harpsichord, vibraphone, saxophone, tuba, and most other instruments known to man) The Impossible-to-hear violin played by someone famous whose name I won't bother to look up, on "Wish You Were Here"... Problem with most of the violinists...their names tend not to go onto the albums... > > Rex > Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ------------------------------ From: Livia Subject: RE: Rockin' Violin Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:43:13 -0700 eddie jobson, roxy music ------------------------------ From: ZeroSummer@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:34:33 -0400 Subject: RE: Rockin' Violin Whoever mentioned John Cale, Morgan Fichter and Lisa Germano right off the bat took away any reason for me to post. But note that I post anyway. =) You think that you're pretty, but you're not. Ha, ha, ha. ------------------------------ From: Mike Hardaker Subject: Re: She Said, She Said Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:08:15 +0200 Sebastian Hagedorn said: (well, he said that he found the Compleat Beatles to be OK and better than the Beatles Complete) I'd decided to stay out of this from now on, as it it is rather off-topic, and I was getting rather bored that a flame war was indanger of developing between me and someone who criticisied me in a rather patronising way for saying 'bollocks' when I mean 'bollocks', and yet knew little enough about music to think that 12/8 was a weird time signature. However, it seems that there is enough Beatles interest around to risk a further post... The Compleat Beatles is ceratinly better than the first edition of the Beatles Complete (the one with the strange photos of body-painted women in the intro), although not much different - in quality - to the second (the one with the pseudo-gold mediallion). They are all, however, a rather long way from what was was actually played on the records, particularly if you read the chords and time signatures. This is becuae they have been hacked together rather quickly by underpaid people with classically-trained piano-oriented minds who have attempted to 'quantise' (to grab a computer term) seomething that was generally created on an instrument so chordally abstract as the six-string guitar that such an approach is, de facto, wrong. ======================================================= Mike Hardaker e-mail: hardaker@iafrica.com mike@sacb.co.za mhardaker@cix.compulink.co.uk WWW: http://mickey.iafrica.com/~hardaker/ (The Hole In The Wall) Tel: +27 ((0)21) 419 0799 Fax: +27 ((0)21) 419 0787 ======================================================= "I'd like to reassure you, But I'm not that kind of guy." - Robyn Hitchcock ======================================================= ------------------------------ From: headfx@ix.netcom.com Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:45:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Rockin' Violin One I can think of is Rosie McNamara From Low Road. They are a Philly band with an acoustically based sound although some of their stuff doesn't sound acoustic at all. They have two CDs out on Carolina/Passenger records. Rosie plays violin and sings (she also plays clarinet on one song). They do an excellent cover of the Pixies song "Gigantic". She has also played a little with Deni Bonet when she was at Mountain Stage - I know it's a very tenuous Hitchcock connection but a connection nonetheless. ------------------------------ From: David Wright Subject: RE: Rockin' Violin Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:19:06 -0600 > 14) Martin Bell of the Wonderstuff during their best years. Also keyboards, > mandolin, accordian, etc... and guest shots on many other records. If there are any Wonder Stuff fans out there wondering what Martin's up to, he's actually on tour with the Cure right now as their keyboard tech. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:58:20 -0400 From: maybe the last real beer in america Subject: Re: Rockin' Violin also sprach RxBroome@aol.com: >3) Morgan Fichter, who ably replaced Jonathan Segel on Camper Van Beethoven's >superb final LP, "Key Lime Pie". and played in harm farm before she was stolen by cvb. fortunately, she was replaced with another hot fiddler - noah chasin - who played on harm farm's two records: _spawn_ and _nice job, einstein_. the former is an excellent record, while the second just very good. also sprach Livia : >eddie jobson, roxy music and jethro tull (one album) and wishbone ash. also has two excellent solo records: _the green album_ (released as zinc/eddie jobson) and _theme of secrets_. the former is a pop/prog mish-mash while the second is sort of proto-ambient. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. *sob* .