From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #119 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 119 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Robyn's next band? RH as Journeyman 70's Rock Icon Re: non 4/4 time Another Bloody Address Change tab help, pretty please Moss Elixir B-sides? yips, middle 8's and Van Hitchcock Re: yips, middle 8's and Van Hitchcock what's your function? time signatures (no RH) Airscape Child of the Universe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 16:48:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Robyn's next band? Just heard Sammy Hagar is out as lead singer of Van Halen...Maybe Robyn Hitchcock will be the new guy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Horton Subject: RH as Journeyman 70's Rock Icon Russ Reynolds wrote: Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:16:36 +0100 (BST) >From: M R Godwin >Subject: Non 4/4 time > >Railway Shoes is a waltz (well the chorus is, anyway) >[etc] don't forget that "You'll have to go sideways" is in awe-inspiring 7/8! and the "yip" part of the Yip song is in what appears to be 3/8. James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:49:39 -0800 evansd@chs.mat-su.k12.ak.us, president@whitehouse.gov, dblake@msb.mat-su.k12.ak.us, drzap@moonie.com, cbrown@msb.mat-su.k12.ak.us, larryj@chs.mat-su.k12.ak.us, asemple@raccoon.com, jomalley@pop.adn.com, kseverson@pop.adn.com, renfieldac@earthlink.com, upstart@mindlink.bc.ca, viking59@woodtech.com, sickthings@wkuvx1.wku.edu, fegmaniax@clairseach.ecto.org, fsjtc2@aurora.alaska.edu From: BC-Radio@corecom.net (Brett Cooper) Subject: Another Bloody Address Change Yes, folks, (including Fred and Carol Brown), for ALL private e-mail, this is my brand spankin' new e-mail address! BC-Radio@corecom.net Thanks! Brett Cooper ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 1:40:13 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: tab help, pretty please I have an itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka dot favor to ask of you listmembers. Has anyone taken a stab at tabbing Brenda Part 1? cause I have. Actually I'm in the middle of trying to do it right now, but I can't get the chorus at all. If you've ever tried to tab this and have suggestions for me I would heartily appreciate it. So far I've been using a simple D-A-G and then Em-A for the verse part (it's probably more complex than that, I know, but I'm not that amazing a musician so I'm trying to keep it simple :)), just to let you know the framework I'm working with. I'm completely stymied on the chorus ("Brenda, oh Brenda"!). Any ideas? Mondo frustrato, Susan P.S. For any fegs unfamiliar- this is a music by Captain Sensible, lyrics by Robyn creation. I love the diamond but don't much care for the setting, if you know what I mean, so I've been trying to strip down the music to guitar alone :). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 09:38:00 -0500 From: Jim Moore Subject: Moss Elixir B-sides? May I pose a question to the Feg! gurus on the list? Does anyone know whether WB and Robyn will release any singles for the new CD? Yes, I'm thinking B-sides here... I know that there's some stuff that didn't make it onto either the CD or vinyl that would be great B-side material. How about "Shadowcat" or "Surfer Ghost" - and I remember Robyn mentioning somewhere a new song he'd written (and surely some of you have heard him perform it) called "The Feelers Was Everywhere". Also, not wanting to deflate the balloons of all the revellers in RH's profanity, but I have always heard Robyn saying: "... I want to function with a bass" But as usual, I could be quite mistaken. Peace, James Moore Card-carrying "Mucky Party" Member jimm@dbu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 08:49:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: yips, middle 8's and Van Hitchcock James stated: >and the "yip" part of the Yip song is in what appears to be 3/8. Nope. Triplets in a standard 4/4. I have yet figure out Leppo, though. 3/4 and 4/4 simultaneously? MIDDLE EIGHTS: just remembered this...for a good example of what a bridge can do for a song, check out "I'm Looking Through You" on the Beatles Anthology 2 (no middle eight), then listen to the version on Rubber Soul ("why, tell me why..." included). LATEST VAN HALEN RUMOR: They're going with a female lead singer...and alegedly changing their name to Van Morissette -russ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:58:22 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: yips, middle 8's and Van Hitchcock On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Russ Reynolds wrote: > James stated: > > I have yet figure out Leppo, though. 3/4 and 4/4 simultaneously? Could be 12345 12345 1234, i.e. 2 bars of 5/4 followed by 1 bar of 4/4 > MIDDLE EIGHTS: just remembered this...for a good example of what a bridge > can do for a song, check out "I'm Looking Through You" If we're allowed Beatles middle 8s, then how about 'We can work it out, which has a middle which changes from 4/4 to 3/4 ('Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and (change to 4 bars of 3/4) fighting my friend") LATEST VAN HALEN RUMOUR: Count Dracula on lead vocals and changing their name to Van Helsing? -Mike "Vlad, you look all washed out" "Yes, every day I'm looking impaler and impaler" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 12:52:17 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: what's your function? Jim writes: > Also not wanting to deflate the balloons of all the > revellers in RH's profanity, but I have always heard > Robyn saying: > > "... I want to function with a bass" Yeah, call me crazy (many have :)) but that's what I've always heard too. Don't know if this has any bearing on the case, but it's a personal fave of mine and when I listen to EoL I usually repeat it a couple times before going on to "Airscape" :). Anyone else? No one I've played it for thinks it's half as funny as I do, but then again, they're not fegs, so who could expect it? :) Susan who walked all over her neighborhood trying to find a store that carried "Details" just to get that blasted Rorschach thing only to discover that it was a tiny blurb with an inch high picture! Bleargh! I was hoping for a full page photo at the least. I bought it anyway because I'm a sucker. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 10:59:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: time signatures (no RH) >If we're allowed Beatles middle 8s, then how about 'We can work it out, >which has a middle which changes from 4/4 to 3/4 ('Life is very short and >there's no time for fussing and (change to 4 bars of 3/4) fighting my >friend") I believe that'd be triplets again. The meter remains 4/4 throughout. I suppose you could notate it on paper it however you want, though. I read a book once which described "All You Need Is Love" as alternating between 3/4 and 4/4. Funny, I always thought of that as being 7/4. I've often wondered what a familiar 4/4 song would sound like if you wrote out all the notes, and then placed the measures every THREE beats instead of every four. Theoretically, if you marked all your dynamics accordingly. the song would *sound* as if it were in 4/4 while actually appearing on paper as a 3/4 composition. So really, who are we to say what time signature a song is in if we've never seen it on paper? we can only say what time signature it *sounds* like. -rr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 11:03:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Airscape since Airscape has been named best hitchcock tune two polls in a row, and since we've recently been discussing middle eights, I thought I should point out that the middle eight in Airscape is instrumental. It also comes back as the coda. Is this interesting? pro'bly not -russ ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:52:40 -0400 Subject: Child of the Universe A few months back we were discussing Robyn songs that shared titles with other artists' compositions, and I don't think anyone caught this one (slipped my mind, too)... the latter-day Byrds had a not-that-great song called "Child of the Universe" which appeared on the "Dr. Byrds and Mr. Hyde" LP and also, with a bunch of orchestration added, on the soundtrack to the movie "Candy". In fact, of everything we came up with, this is the only song that I think Robyn might have actually consciously named after a previously recorded song. Interestingly, Robyn's version also has a bit of orchestration and also isn't all that great. Rex ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. .