From: fegmaniax@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #116 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 116 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Ooops. 1st article of what I hope will be many..... Gypsy Moths etc. Re: Jarvis Cocker / _Plutonium Express_ Re: Jarvis Cocker Our Hero! the multilingual Robyn... Clean Steve Alvin Lives in Leeds obscenity Re: obscenity RE: Alvin Lives in Leeds Re: obscenity Curses! General inquiries Uncle Bobby in DETAILS I don't mean that. Alright Yeah! Re: Alvin Lives in Leeds hard-to-find CDs? Re: Uncle Bobby in DETAILS ALVIN moved out. Re: Uncle Bobby in DETAILS ------------------------------ From: Alpacaprod@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:21:39 -0400 Subject: Ooops. This message is to Caroline: Sorry to put this over the line and not direct, but I just erased your address and I need it to send the copy of the cassette. Alpacaprod@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:00:23 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: 1st article of what I hope will be many..... HERE COMES HITCHCOCK reprinted without permission from ICE magazine, July 1996 issue. The last couple of years have been good to Robyn Hitchcock fans, what with Rhino Records' masterful CD reissues of the artist's entire catalog (and the some). Yet its been three years since Britpop's reigning surrealist has released an album's worth of new material. On August 13, Hitchcock returns with his 12-track Warner Bros. debut, _Moss Elixir_, sans his longtime backing band, The Egyptians. "Robyn is now very much a solo artist," Warner Bros.' ranking Hitchcock authority Rick Gershon stresses, "although there is a band on five or six of the tracks-- a band out of England called Homer, which is a more straightforward pop band than the Egyptians. The emphasis on this record is on the songs that Robyn plays by himself." Although some of the singer/songwriter's penchant for bizarre imagery and fairy-tale psychodrama remains, many of the songs on _Moss Elixir_ skew more to autobiography than did those on past albums. "For the last couple of years, Robyn seems to be trying to get away from all the wackiness," Gershon notes. "You're never going to divorce Robyn from certain attributes that make him _him_-- humourous astpects and such-- but because he's getting older and more mature, he's writing from the perspective of someone who's in his 40's rather than his 20's. He doesn't need to hide behind the wacky imagery as much as he once did." Attention all vinyl-collecting Hitchcock zealots: Warner Bros. has a special treat for you. "We're doing a limited vinyl edition-- and I mean _extremely_ limited, like 2,500 copies-- called _Mossy Liquor: Outtakes and Prototypes_," Gershon says. "It will have a dozen songs, six of which share common titles with _Moss Elixir_ but are different versions, and six which are new titles." "The material on _Mossy Liquor_ is a little more fun, less reverent. It's very different than the CD, and it's not to be taken as seriously....it's really a companion piece for the fanatics." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "you're so boring boring boring / always tape machine recording you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before" -Dead Kennedys john b. jones jojones@syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:28:44 -0400 Subject: Gypsy Moths etc. Terrence sez: "> What do you guys think ? I think that gypsy moths are very interesting creatures." More like gross and destructive, those gypsy moths-- the worst non-indigenous scourge to hit the east coast since Japanese beetles in the 70's. Mofos destroyed a big percentage of my family's fruit trees and set some ancient softwoods back a couple of decades when they hit the mid-eastern seaboard in '90 or so, when I was spending a rare summer back home. Plus, it was truly disgusting to be relaxing on the pool deck and suddenly have two or three nasty caterpillars disconnect from their web filaments, deciding it would be altogether nicer to swim in your Manhattan for a while. Ugh. Most of the creatures which fascinate me are ocean-going--I'm very into the symbiotic relationship between clownfish and anemones, for example. My stand-alone faves, though, are manta rays-- nothing more astonishing than those guys. Interestingly, Robyn's only ever alluded to one of the above-- anemones, in "The Shapes Between Us Turn into Animals", where he surprisingly makes a commmon mistake in pronunciation and sings "aneNoMes". Meanwhile, the Pixies have TWO manta ray songs (both b-sides) and only I seem to have written a song about clownfish, as far as I know. Rex ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 96 03:35:38 EDT From: King of the Archway Mods <101356.2516@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Jarvis Cocker / _Plutonium Express_ > I don't know if you are all familiar with a UK comedy partnership > called Reeves and Mortimer (slap stick / pub club humour) they have > had their own TV series over here. The house band of which series was fronted by a certain Mr Andrew Metcalfe. There's a _monumentally_ godawful cover of 'Vienna', done by Andy & Vic (real name James Moir) on the _Ruby Trax_ album. RIP the TV Personalities 1975-1996. *This bit is a reply to a private mail but others might be interested, blah blah blah* > Many thanks for your list. Just one question, what are "Greasy Quiff", > "Jet Set Flyer", "Plutonium Express" and "Demons & Fiends"? _Quiff_, _Flyer_ & _Fiends_ I posted on last week. _Plutonium Express_ was released in 1983 on the Razor label (RAZ 7). The track list is: Going Uptown Street Heat Shoot Shoot Plutonium Express One Time Lucy's Crying Again Love Is Burning Last Broken Heart Dream Factory Tired of Living With You The line-up is: Dave Birch - guitar; Ian Carnochan (Knox of the Vibrators) - guitar, keyboards; Mike Connaris - guitar, bass, keyboards; Andy Duncan - drums; Robyn Hitchcock - vocals; Paul Roland - vocals; Matthew Seligman - bass; Alan Swinden - percussion; Anthony Thistlethwaite - sax; Scarlet von Vollerman - vocals Only about three tracks from it aren't shite, which is sad considering the unique line-up. There was also a single, Gigolo Aunt/Alligator Man, from 1980 on Armageddon (AS 003) which featured the lineup: Ian Carnochan - guitar/vocals; ***Alex Chilton*** (yes that one) - guitar, vocals; Nick Gibson - drums; Nicky Hallam - guitar; Robyn Hitchcock - guitar, vocals; Matthew Seligman - bass. Both turn up periodically in specialist shops; expect to pay about L10 for the album and L5 for the single. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:48:10 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Jarvis Cocker Our Hero! On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 NJARMAN@frmail.rosemount.com wrote: > They all cling to Michael, then > all these religious leaders turn up, The Pope, a Jewish Rabbi, A > Bishop or two. This sounds a hell of a lot like a Village People routine, or the opening of one of thsoe Naked Gun films. Is MJ going downmarket or is bad taste going upmarket? - Mike G. Mind you, a man who can sing a love song to a rat is presumably not primarily motivated by taste... ------------------------------ From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:49:18 -0400 Subject: the multilingual Robyn... Sorry about the Swedish bit of sarcasm Richard, it doesn't translate well via email. However, when I caught Robyn in Cork, he did sing everything in Irish and apparently when he played one of the game reserves in Kenya, the Maasai got a great thrill out of his singing all but two tracks in Kiswahili 'cause they didn't translate well. I'm not sure, but I think they were "Old Pervert" and "Dr. Sticky". humbly, Carl ------------------------------ From: Keith Hanlon Subject: Clean Steve Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Hello! I've been busy trading tapes with a number of people. Whenever I hear "Clean Steve," Robyn has numerous additiions to the song - facts about Steve, the narrator, the guy next door, etc. I want to compile a list of facts about Clean Steve. If anybody has ANY information (interviews, show dialogue, etc) let me know via email. I hope to have a decent profile of Steve and the other characters in the song. No, I'm not a boring, nerdy feg with a lot of time on his hands! As a matter of fact, if this gets to be too much, I may just back out. By the way, what's a "Mineral Man," and why should "all you space cats" watch out? (Forgive my ignorance) Lastly, I like to trade tapes. Anybody interested in my list, just let me know. -- Keith -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Check out Norton's Orchestraville, a wacky, all-original Ohio band. Jason Huck was kind enough to put a song in his homepage: http://www.art.ohiou.edu/Huck/bungalow.html Site courtesy of Jason Huck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 13:11:00 -0500 From: Jim Moore Subject: Alvin Lives in Leeds Thanks to John Jones for the information about this CD. I'm going to go hunting tonight at a few places for it, but I have a quick question first: Is the CD listed as a Robyn Hitchcock CD, or what? (it will help me in my search to know what I'm looking for). Also, if someone knows the answer to this and can respond today, could you please respond to me personally as well as the list? I get the digest, and so I won't get today's posted messages until tomorrow am. And, like I said, I want to go hunting tonight for this CD. My address is: jimm@dbu.edu Thanks, folks Jim Moore ------------------------------ From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:16:33 -0400 (EDT) CC: LORDK@library.phila.gov Subject: obscenity Robyn dosnt use the s or f word cause they are to easy. We're habituated to it. If you *really want to be obscene, you must present it in a fresh way. Besides, hes a gentleman. K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Eugene B Mirman Subject: Re: obscenity On Mon, 24 Jun 1996 LORDK@library.phila.gov wrote: > Robyn dosnt use the s or f word cause they are to easy. We're habituated > to it. If you *really want to be obscene, you must present it in a fresh > way. > Besides, hes a gentleman. > K > I have a bootleg in which robyn introduces I got a message for you and says "fuck" at some point, and then says, "There I said it." or something like that. Though it's true he doesn't swear much at all. -eugene ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tipper Gore said to Lou Reed, "Lou Reed, how can we communicate better with our children?" Lou Reed responded, "We would probably have to sit down and talk about it over a bottle of scotch, and maybe, some crack." It's back! My lovely Humor Home page: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~ebmF92 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Robert Sutton "'Jim Moore'" Subject: RE: Alvin Lives in Leeds Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:37:57 -0700 I have the CD. It is not a RH disc. It has other artists. It is/was to benefit the Anti-Poll tax cause in the UK. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:17:40 -0500 (CDT) From: bret@atdot.com (Bret) Subject: Re: obscenity >Robyn dosnt use the s or f word cause they are to easy. We're habituated >to it. If you *really want to be obscene, you must present it in a fresh >way. >Besides, hes a gentleman. ok, this is going to be close, but not exact......but it is one of my favorite RH intros....this happens to be for My Wife and My Dead Wife. "Sometimes, but not all the time, just every so often, a man makes his life into a noose, and in the absence of a jury convicts and hangs himself. I know some people should be deader than they are, they're gonna be, but the privalege an artist enjoys is that he can hang himself with characters real, or imaginary, and it doesn't hurt, not like if I strung myself up with this piece of flux, whick would not only slowly and eneficiently end my life, but probably fuck up the electrical system as well. But sometimes you have to wonder what happens to the soul before death." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Curses! Nothing like a classy thread such as this one to get everyone posting ... or to get me posting, anyway. Hitchcock may not swear that much, but I think he's done so at every show I've seen. At the Ann Arbor shows last year he was substituting "No shit" for "No sweat" in "Driving Aloud;" I've also heard him announce "I've Got A Message For You" as "about fucking." Then there are the song intros on _Portland Arms_, but everyone knows those already, yeah? Tracy "I've edited out the 't' word" Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:41:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Horton Subject: General inquiries Salutations, all: Just came across some rarish stuff and was wondering if anyone knew anything about any of it: Soft Boys-RAW CUTS: An EP put out by Overground Records. Seems to have the same tracks listed on the "76-81" Set as being from the "Give it to the Soft Boys" record, with one additional track, "Verna Knowle is a Headbanger." Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, so I don't know if they are one and the same. Does feature a great cover pic of a very young Stratocaster-wielding, muscle-tee-clad RH. "Groovy Decay": The Albion German CD. Seemingly everyone's least favorite album, but I had never seen it before, and I heard (from someone who is a fan but not on the list) that it has a different cover (RH sitting at a table covered with various fruits and candles and a skull wearing sunglasses) than the UK release. Is this accurate? Just curious... Marc Horton / "All she wants is someone Diablo Valley College / to watch Twin Peaks with..." -the Jazz Butcher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael J. Swedene" Subject: Uncle Bobby in DETAILS Hey Fegs!! An Uncle Bobby sighting in this months handy dandy DETAILS magazine. Yes it is th eone with Gavin of Bush and SHIRLEY from Garbage. If you can tear yourself away from the article on the Village People, Turn to page 50, after the article on "Shirley Manson" from Garbage, there is a section called "POP PSYCHOLOGY." They showed some rock musicians some of the infamous ink spot tests. Robyn gives his answers and then the doctor tells us about him. Other celebs include Tori Amos (UNPLUGGED 6 25 96 MTV), Dolores O'Riordan, Coolio, and Fred Schneider. If you are embarrased to get this or do not have a chance I will retype all the notes. If you need more info, Please email me privately. Love and Lobsters! -HERBIE ------------------------------ From: TPJSHEDS@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:35:50 -0400 Subject: I don't mean that. > Isn't it curious that in all of Robyn's released music to this date, he has > never used the word "fuck" or the word "shit" in any of his lyrics. >Check out Portland Arms... I don't mean things like "That's the notes, fuck it" I mean actual song lyrics. And there aren't any on "...Portland Arms" (unless you count "bloody" or "two-bit" or "smell") Yes, I'm sure Robyn has said lots of naughty words in his non-lyrical incarnation (s). ("Give me a fucking' fag, will ya ?" "Billy Bragg is going on last? Fuck off!") Things like that. I've never realized Robyn was interested in fish. I should go back and listen to the records. (Isn't he the guy that did Baloon Man even before the Bangles?) Tim. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Alright Yeah! Let me get this straight.... The song 'Alright Yeah!' is being released on two separate albums, on two different labels in the same month. I am guessing that the version on Warners will be slightly different, perhaps a little stripped down. You know, Guns'N'Roses did something like this back in '90, or was it '91. They released two versions of a song simultaneously. Although they actually meant to do it. Hey, if Robyn needs a new backing band, he could hire the guys from Guns'N'Roses. How does "Guns'N'Robyn" sound? Just wonderin' ______________________________________________________________ Griffith Davies hbrtv219@dewey.csun.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:05:00 From: tocs@gnn.com (Scott) Subject: Re: Alvin Lives in Leeds >Thanks to John Jones for the information about this CD. >I'm going to go hunting tonight at a few places for it, but >I have a quick question first: Is the CD listed as a Robyn >Hitchcock CD, or what? (it will help me in my search to >know what I'm looking for). Well, i've been on this list for about a month now. Before this i though I knew most everything about Robyn (and i have some rare stuff!!!) Now my ego is bruised. I have to ask, what's on this album (Alvin Lives...)? Is it all Robyn? Thanks for the info, Scott It is evil to kill a tree that a mandolin might be fashioned from its wood, or to flay some beast that the mandolin might have strings. But would it be any less evil to go without song? - Jessica Amanda Salmson "Carmanda" ------------------------------ From: Critica@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:43:36 -0400 Subject: hard-to-find CDs? Hello all! Every so often on this list, someone-or-other posts & says "I found a CD copy of (insert album title here), does anyone need it?" The album in question is either Queen Elvis or Globe of Frogs. Or maybe both, I can't recall. Could some kind soul please tell me which disc, if either, is so hard to find, and why? Thanks much, Becky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:30:05 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: Re: Uncle Bobby in DETAILS >Hey Fegs!! >An Uncle Bobby sighting in this months handy dandy DETAILS magazine. Yes >it is th eone with Gavin of Bush and SHIRLEY from Garbage. If you can >tear yourself away from the article on the Village People, Turn to page >50, after the article on "Shirley Manson" from Garbage, there is a >section called "POP PSYCHOLOGY." They showed some rock musicians some of >the infamous ink spot tests. Robyn gives his answers and then the doctor >tells us about him. Other celebs include Tori Amos (UNPLUGGED 6 25 96 >MTV), Dolores O'Riordan, Coolio, and Fred Schneider. > >If you are embarrased to get this or do not have a chance I will retype >all the notes. If you need more info, Please email me privately. > >Love and Lobsters! >-HERBIE Herbie- Could you type this up and post it? Having the article in electronic form insures that people will get to read it once those pesky Robyn archives are back up again. In the meantime, here is another Robyn Hitchcock blurb from today's Music News of the World web page (www.addict.com): HITCHCOCK RELEASES TWO ALBUMS Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Robyn Hitchcock is celebrating his return to a major label in grand style. Not content to merely announce himself with a single CD, Hitchcock, the king of Quirk, will celebrate with two releases. This is where it gets tricky, so pay attention. The first release is a limited-edition LP called Mossy Liquor (Outtakes and Prototypes), and the second, a CD to be released two weeks later (Aug. 13) entitled, Moss Elixir . Now, this is where it gets a little weird. Both releases have 12 songs on them and both share six song titles. However, the six commonly-titled versions on vinyl are totally different songs from those on the CD. Confused? Good. Stay tuned for more information, none of which we promise will be any more revealing. --oooooh, how informative! (just kidding.) JOhn -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "you're so boring boring boring / always tape machine recording you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before" -Dead Kennedys john b. jones jojones@syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:50:24 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: ALVIN moved out. I went to my local new megastore the WIZ and bought up all their copies of "Alvin Lives In Leeds". There were 4. They went to the first four people that e-mailed me. To everyone else---sorry. Maybe more will turn up. In the meantime, scour the cutout bins in your town, one is bound to turn up! I'm tellin' ya, if I could find one in El Paso, TX, you could probably find one ANYWHERE!! Ta. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "you're so boring boring boring / always tape machine recording you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before" -Dead Kennedys john b. jones jojones@syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:27:32 -0400 From: flaky white stuff Subject: Re: Uncle Bobby in DETAILS also sprach jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison): >Could you type this up and post it? Having the article in electronic form >insures that people will get to read it once those pesky Robyn archives are >back up again. funny john should mention that. just this past weekend, i found out that the out-of-commission-hard-disk that the archives were residing on is now back in action! so, my first priority will be to get the old archives on archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/h/hitchcock.robyn caught up. second priority will be to get them reorganized. i'll probably do the first thing tomorrow evening. the second will probably have to wait until the weekend, at the earliest. i plan on setting up auto-updated links to all of the stuff in the archives from the main fegmaniax page. (which i hope to reorganize sometime in the near future as well - phew! someone should pay me to do this stuff! ;) ) woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. .